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Tarik Glenn seems to suggest Colts used an illegal communication system

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Buried in a profile of former Colts left tackle Tarik Glenn resides a stunning admission about the steps taken by his former team to deal with the disruption that comes from excessive sound.

Already suspected (but never actually proven) to have piped in crowd noise, the Colts apparently had a system for dealing with noise elsewhere.

“We were playing on the road, it might have been Peyton’s rookie year, and it was really loud,” Glenn told Clifton Brown of the Indianapolis Star. “Peyton [Manning] hadn’t mastered the silent count, so [former offensive line coach] Howard Mudd had us wearing these hearing aids that were supposed to muffle the crowd while projecting the quarterback’s voice.”

A “hearing aid” or any type of electronic device would amount to a clear and blatant violation of the rules.

Manning was a rookie in 1998, so the chances of the league venturing down that rabbit hole are slim. But the question remains whether the Colts continued to use it beyond 1998, and if so for how long?

Given that it went undetected in 1998 by the Colts, here’s another question: Who else has done it? Moreover, who else is still doing it?

That’s the one thing we’ve learned about the various cheating scandals of the last decade. All teams cheat in one form or another; only a few ever get caught. In most of those cases, they get caught when the league wants them to get caught.

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  1. nhpats says: Jul 3, 2017 9:14 PM

    Teabagging, HGH and now this….

  2. weepingjebus says: Jul 3, 2017 9:19 PM

    “Playoffs?! Don’t talk about — playoffs?! Seriously, I can’t hear you, my illegal radio plugs are still in.”

  3. patsfiend says: Jul 3, 2017 9:21 PM

    Ha. Kind of a good idea. Maybe cut the ear hole a little wider on the qb side, or put a little cotton on the other side.

  4. bannedfromchoirpractice says: Jul 3, 2017 9:28 PM

    How do you know the players weren’t hard of hearing? Hearing devices are protected under the ADA. That is federal law. We need to stop this ridiculous witch hunt to find teams other than the Patriots who cheat. You’re not going to find any. Get over it already. The Patriots are cheaters and it’s in the history books. Look it up.

  5. rodgerstonelson says: Jul 3, 2017 9:29 PM

    Who cares…1998 really?

  6. hamlet423 says: Jul 3, 2017 9:32 PM

    opps, this was the pre-dungy days

    Surely he fired mudd as soon as he took over though…right?

  7. theright0pinion says: Jul 3, 2017 9:33 PM

    A lot more serious violation than allegedly deflating a football

  8. ricko1112 says: Jul 3, 2017 9:36 PM

    Piping in phony crowd noise…

    Purposely losing games in order to get the #1 pick…

    Hiding broken ribs and lacerated kidneys from the IR…

    Tampering with opponents’ footballs…

    Illegal communications…

    Tampering with their own footballs…

    Complicit with the NFL’s completely debunked Deflategate scheme. Don’t forget that the Colts’ footballs were also illegally low…

    With the exception of the Broncos, the Colts’ are the dirtiest team in the NFL.

  9. medialovesthecowboys says: Jul 3, 2017 9:36 PM

    Newsflash: A team bent [broke] the rules to get an advantage.

  10. torethatbridgeout says: Jul 3, 2017 9:37 PM

    Who cares?

  11. paleandpasty says: Jul 3, 2017 9:39 PM

    My money is on the saints and patriots.

  12. mikespillane337 says: Jul 3, 2017 9:42 PM

    Quick hide the walkie talkies and the pipes…definitely the pipes..the pipes have noise in them.

  13. blah773 says: Jul 3, 2017 9:43 PM

    and what do they have to show for it? one superbowl. and all kinds of “participation” banners…

  14. sbhntr says: Jul 3, 2017 9:45 PM

    Nothing will happened to the Colts. They are not the Patriots.

  15. tonebones says: Jul 3, 2017 9:52 PM

    The Colts were smart back then, and being creative. Bill Belichick is the same way. If you ain’t cheatin, you ain’t tryin.

  16. lewsblues says: Jul 3, 2017 9:58 PM

    So you’re saying hearing aids are illegal to wear during the games?

    well … there goes my career …

  17. alfredogarciashead says: Jul 3, 2017 10:09 PM

    Who else? The Patriots of course. Stupid question.

  18. deuce22222 says: Jul 3, 2017 10:24 PM

    Old news. The Pats have been cheating since November 16, 1959.

  19. returntoexcellence says: Jul 3, 2017 10:26 PM

    What exactly does the NFL have against teams being able to hear anyway?

  20. edgerules says: Jul 3, 2017 10:27 PM

    He who has no sin, cast the first stone. Just saying.

  21. ibillwt says: Jul 3, 2017 10:46 PM

    Who cares?
    ————————–
    You have a point. Manning still choked when it counted even with various forms of cheating.

    But we all know which team would have gotten hung out to dry on this in another desperate and futile attempt to deny their superiority and 17-yr dominance. Yep, the qb and coach who NEVER choke and NEVER quit! God we love em for it.

  22. TheWizard says: Jul 3, 2017 10:51 PM

    Any D-lineman who knew about it could have had a lot of fun with it…

  23. hugeheavywoman says: Jul 3, 2017 11:09 PM

    The Pats have been doing this for years.

  24. truthinesshurts says: Jul 3, 2017 11:19 PM

    A “hearing aid” doesn’t have to contain electronics, it might be just a rubber plug, which surely can’t be illegal…

  25. Bloodfart says: Jul 3, 2017 11:20 PM

    I’ll have to go check the colts win/loss record for the last 3 years to decide if I should act on this.

    r. goodell.

  26. goodtogo28 says: Jul 3, 2017 11:23 PM

    tough week for the manning family. i would like to find out what role cooper has played in all this. we deserve the full story.

  27. LyinRogerMustGo says: Jul 3, 2017 11:25 PM

    Colts have 0 playoff appearances since the league started inspecting PSI in their game footballs. How odd.

    🙂

  28. pauldeba says: Jul 3, 2017 11:27 PM

    Time to take away all those tainted one and dones

  29. burtmustin says: Jul 3, 2017 11:30 PM

    And let’s not forget that Howard Mudd is the NFL coaching staff lip reader of his generation. There is nothing illegal about it, but you can now understand why coaches cover their mouths when calling out plays during the game.

  30. andjachan says: Jul 4, 2017 12:22 AM

    Glenn was probably talking about those earplugs that help block out crowd noise but still allow them to hear the QB. The Saints wore those at a Seattle game on Brett Favre’s advise.

  31. mistrezzrachael says: Jul 4, 2017 1:03 AM

    Think now…it’s become obvious…that the coalition of Fischer, Dungy and Polian…were real, real, dirty.

    Yet, you listen to them, and they come off like saints…That crap…known throughout the NFL….

  32. webbiewebs3 says: Jul 4, 2017 1:09 AM

    Just goes to prove the adage (and no, it isn’t “the old adage because an adage by very definition is already old) “If you’re not cheating, you’re not trying.”

  33. campcouch says: Jul 4, 2017 1:45 AM

    I guess no one has ever used earplugs before. Dozens of brands are designed to muffle noises while focusing directional sounds. Not illegal.

  34. patsfan1820 says: Jul 4, 2017 2:06 AM

    Not surprising unless you’re the Jacksonville Jaguars every team has some kind of dirt on them. Peyton probably did whatever it took to win and I didn’t mind that in fact I kind of liked that about him. What I hated about him was his aw shucks nice guy attitude that was clearly an act.

  35. Karmi says: Jul 4, 2017 4:31 AM

    Earplugs are a hearing aid – they kept sound turned lower.

  36. favrelous says: Jul 4, 2017 4:32 AM

    Vikes used them in 2010. http://m.startribune.com/vikings-try-out-ear-plugs/82178117/

  37. redclaw1314 says: Jul 4, 2017 5:21 AM

    ricko1112 says:
    Jul 3, 2017 9:36 PM
    Piping in phony crowd noise…
    Purposely losing games in order to get the #1 pick…
    Hiding broken ribs and lacerated kidneys from the IR…
    Tampering with opponents’ footballs…
    Illegal communications…
    Tampering with their own footballs…
    Complicit with the NFL’s completely debunked Deflategate scheme. Don’t forget that the Colts’ footballs were also illegally low…
    With the exception of the Broncos, the Colts’ are the dirtiest team in the NFL.

    _______________

    yes, the list continues to grow; but they are one of the favored teams

  38. cylondetector says: Jul 4, 2017 5:46 AM

    Cue the ‘who cares?’ brigade. It’s only a big deal when it’s the Patriots!

  39. drednot says: Jul 4, 2017 6:17 AM

    This is unbelievable…if it were the Patriots this would be the scandal of the century! I’m sick of seeing everyone else getting a slap on the wrist or nothing at all and the Patriots getting draft picks taken. The bigger issue is the travesty that people judge which violation is worse than the other!

  40. Lemmy Aksyadis says: Jul 4, 2017 6:27 AM

    bannedfromchoirpractice says:
    Jul 3, 2017 9:28 PM

    How do you know the players weren’t hard of hearing? Hearing devices are protected under the ADA. That is federal law. We need to stop this ridiculous witch hunt to find teams other than the Patriots who cheat. You’re not going to find any. Get over it already. The Patriots are cheaters and it’s in the history books. Look it

    I did look it up and you’re mistaken. NE was penalized with the NFL admitting they had no evidence of wrongdoing for framegate and spygate is akin to wearing gold shoes so penalized yes, cheating, no.

    Witch hunt? No cheating to be found? Hilarious, you should take this act on the road !

  41. anonymousnevermindfishdeath says: Jul 4, 2017 7:16 AM

    Mannacheater?

  42. nyneal says: Jul 4, 2017 7:16 AM

    And this is the team which accused Tom Brady of letting the air out of footballs.
    The Colts have been a disgrace ever since they left Baltimore.

  43. raidernation210 says: Jul 4, 2017 7:24 AM

    they only get caught when they continue to cheat

  44. karlcuba says: Jul 4, 2017 7:39 AM

    The niners trialed a plastic ear plug circa 1995 (I remember because Steve Wallace was mentioned as he was deaf in his left ear) that purported to filter out crowd noise via its inherent acoustic properties.

    I don’t think they found it particularly successful.

    I suspect the colts were trying something similar, not an electronic device.

    So probably not cheating and probably not much of a story.

  45. ctownsend2012 says: Jul 4, 2017 8:19 AM

    bannedfromchoirpractice says:
    Jul 3, 2017 9:28 PM
    How do you know the players weren’t hard of hearing? Hearing devices are protected under the ADA. That is federal law. We need to stop this ridiculous witch hunt to find teams other than the Patriots who cheat. You’re not going to find any. Get over it already. The Patriots are cheaters and it’s in the history books. Look it up.
    ————————————————

    There is no way you can be that naive. Way to embarrass yourself buddy.

  46. Flash1287 says: Jul 4, 2017 8:20 AM

    According to Hue Millen (back up QB ) for Denver 94-95 the Broncos did the same thing.

  47. joshr99164 says: Jul 4, 2017 8:34 AM

    The truth is that everyone probably does this type of stuff. But the Colts played the moral high ground and it makes them look like fools.

  48. shadywarrior says: Jul 4, 2017 8:56 AM

    The other thing we’ve learned about the various cheating scandals of the last decade: no one cares unless it’s the Patriots being accused.

  49. patsrule59 says: Jul 4, 2017 9:08 AM

    “Manning was a rookie in 1998, so the chances of the league venturing down that rabbit hole are slim”

    – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –

    Yeah, like the league would ever have done anything to Manning at any point during his career.

    This guy received blatantly preferential treatment his entire career.

    If Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers received the kind coddling and preferential treatment from the league that this pampered pansy got, they’d have multiple rings. Brady would have 7 or 8 rings instead of the 5 he already has.

  50. peppy62 says: Jul 4, 2017 9:10 AM

    This was Bill Belichick’s fault. Somehow he snuck in to the Colt’s dressing room and put the ear piece in Peyton’s helmet because that way in future years he could get Manning to throw all those interceptions to Ty Law.

    Roger should suspend BB for the next season, fine the Patriots their next 4 first round dtaft choices and suspend Brady for another 4 games on general principle because everyone know the Pats cheat.

  51. dumbaseinstien says: Jul 4, 2017 9:11 AM

    Any assertion that “all teams cheat” is either a foolish momentary lapse of reason by those making that claim. Or, just a bold faced lie, intended to normalize the despicable acts of the Patricheats. Individuals cheat, but it’s pretty rare for a team to have a culture of cheating, like the Patricheats do. If the Colts did break the rules, they should be punished, regardless of how long ago it was. But at this point, we don’t even know if it’s true. This could be just another effort, using manufactured disinformation, to normalize public perception of cheating. Those who have invested their careers and billions in annual revenue will use any means possible to suppress the impacts of both their past & future cheating asperations, including attempt to create the false impression that “everyone does it”. Like a parent tells their kids “If your friend steals something, does that mean you should?” And if they do, you punish them harshley! And just as a reminder, cheating and stealing are the exact same thing.

  52. bullcharger says: Jul 4, 2017 9:29 AM

    campcouch says:
    Jul 4, 2017 1:45 AM
    I guess no one has ever used earplugs before. Dozens of brands are designed to muffle noises while focusing directional sounds. Not illegal.

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    They said electric hearing aids, not earplugs.
     

  53. bullcharger says: Jul 4, 2017 9:31 AM

    I actually see no reason why this would be illegal

  54. kissbillsrings says: Jul 4, 2017 9:55 AM

    I’m sure the hearing devices & crowd noise surpressors were used to help overcome the fake crowd noise the Colts regularly pumped in at home & were perfected there for when they traveled to other hostile loud venues……

  55. YouCryin?PatsMustBeDoingTheirJob says: Jul 4, 2017 9:56 AM

    Fines and loss of draft picks. Your s@#t stinks.

  56. LyinRogerMustGo says: Jul 4, 2017 10:14 AM

    Andrew Luck hasn’t been the same QB since the Colts were caught with underinflated footballs the night of the 2014 AFC Championship game and the league then started checking PSI.

    Fully inflated footballs are much harder to throw I guess.

    🙂

  57. mmack66 says: Jul 4, 2017 10:22 AM

    dumbassenstien says:
    Jul 4, 2017 9:11 AM

    Any assertion that “all teams cheat” is either a foolish momentary lapse of reason by those making that claim. Or, just a bold faced lie, intended to normalize the despicable acts of the Patricheats. Individuals cheat, but it’s pretty rare for a team to have a culture of cheating, like the Patricheats do.
    —————————–

    The only thing the Patriots have a culture of is winning. But feel free to carry on with your delusion.

  58. harrisonhits2 says: Jul 4, 2017 10:26 AM

    “Any assertion that “all teams cheat” is either a foolish momentary lapse of reason by those making that claim. Or, just a bold faced lie, intended to normalize the despicable acts of the Patricheats. Individuals cheat, but it’s pretty rare for a team to have a culture of cheating, like the Patricheats do.”

    You know nothing about NFL history. Donks, Fins, Steelers and many other teams have a “long culture of cheating”, and in fact far more extensive than anything the Pats have done.

    The double standards some of you children live by would be hilarious if it wasn’t so pathetic and sad.

  59. dexterismyhero says: Jul 4, 2017 10:32 AM

    What would Joey Chestnut say?

  60. wordsmith513 says: Jul 4, 2017 10:36 AM

    LyinRogerMustGo says:
    Jul 4, 2017 10:14 AM
    Fully inflated footballs are much harder to throw I guess.
    —————————————————————-
    Unless you like fully inflated or in Aaron Rodgers case, over inflated footballs. The preference on the QBs part can affect his receivers. It is a matter of physics that a harder object (thrown in this case) at a high velocity will bounce off a fully stationary object (receiver hands) quicker than one that absorbs some of the impact. So the receivers have to adjust how they catch the ball. The lack of adjustment on their part could hurt Luck as well.

    Every team looks for an edge. An edge is different than outright cheating. If I were a HC I don’t know that I would have known that hearing aids were against the rules.

  61. tylawspick6 says: Jul 4, 2017 10:38 AM

    Jul 4, 2017 10:14 AM
    Andrew Luck hasn’t been the same QB since the Colts were caught with underinflated footballs the night of the 2014 AFC Championship game and the league then started checking PSI.

    Fully inflated footballs are much harder to throw I guess.

    🙂

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    lol!!

    those hayseeds in indy with low iqs will fall
    for any lie goodell sells them. it is comical to watch

    it is also comical that judge berman caught goodell
    in the lie in a federal court, and somehow, just
    somehow, the pats still cheated

    hilarious

    meanwhile, other teams actually cheat left and right
    and no one cares because they aren’t a dynasty

  62. intentionallywidenberg says: Jul 4, 2017 10:41 AM

    If he was talking about passive earplugs (that claim to pass voice but not other sound frequencies), then no harm, no foul.
    If he was talking about electronic hearing aids, then that’s a problem. Not to mention that they would be indistinguishable from bluetooth earpieces.
    Of course, enough time has passed, that I no longer care. Chalk it up with 49ers linemen greasing their jerseys, Shula leaving the rain tarp off the field, Biletnikov (& Rice) using stickum, Jon Gruden teaching John Lynch to read the Raiders’ signals, Pop Warner’s guys hiding the ball under their jerseys, etc.

  63. j0esixpack says: Jul 4, 2017 10:55 AM

    The Colts (and the Falcons) have been caught piping in Seattle 12th Man noise to give them an advantage as well

    This is REAL CHEATING – that gives a REAL & UNFAIR advantage & Goodell looks the other way

    The Patriots have achieved Dominance through hard work and of course the brilliance of Belichick & Brady…

    … but of course Goodell asserts that the Laws of Physics that cause a loss of PSI in the Cold does not exist on a football field, doctors the statements of the officials exonnerating the Patriots and otherwise creates the false scandal known as FrameGate

    Gullible NFL fans don’t even question why Goodell now refuses to release collected PSI from other cold weather games

    Is it any wonder why NFL ratings are dropping? Everyone knows Goodell is trying to turn the NFL into “Pro” Wrestling, fixing games and allowing the Colts to even purposefully lose to “Suck for Luck”

  64. BarbequeTime says: Jul 4, 2017 11:08 AM

    Honestly if this happened back in the 90’s then whatever. Even if the Colts came out with a press release saying its all true what is anyone going to do about it? Its not even worthy of an asterisk on the banner. Just move on.

  65. tylawspick6 says: Jul 4, 2017 11:11 AM

    Flash1287 says:
    Jul 4, 2017 8:20 AM
    According to Hue Millen (back up QB ) for Denver 94-95 the Broncos did the same thing.

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    denver also committed the greatest scam in nfl
    history by cheating the cap from 1995, 1996, and
    1997, as elway offered up to take deferred salary
    to give his entitled crap postseason self a sb ring
    after many embarrasing moments.

  66. dallascowboysforever says: Jul 4, 2017 11:12 AM

    I’m still waiting for the NFL to thoroughly investigate Peyton Manning and his HGH. When you’re innocent, you never want to allow a lawyer to send private investigators to a clinic to check your files as they said in the media. Not only that, but allow these same investigators to speak with the accuser and intimidate them until they recant the real story. Dr. Guyer had a history of supplying HGH illegally from China and he got caught with it back in 2007.

    When an athlete has millions of dollars in the bank and their wife is pregnant, why acquire HGH from a shady doctor with a questionable past? The evidence is overwhelming for those who actually followed this case.

    On the sexual assault investigation when Peyton was back in college, Jamie Naughwright won a defamation lawsuit against the University of Tennessee and they had to pay her $150,000. Peyton went a step further though and paid her off twice anyways because he didn’t want her to file another suit.

    He mentioned her name in his book and he later sent disturbing envelopes to the Florida Southern College, where Jamie worked.

    The information in the book broke a court agreement and the envelopes got her fired. Peyton Manning was a great quarterback, but his reputation has taken a huge hit for knowingly using HGH and for the cover-up scandal at the University of Tennessee.

  67. johnwaldron8 says: Jul 4, 2017 11:14 AM

    To borrow a comment from Matt Chatham, the point of this story isn’t that everyone cheats, it’s that the Colts cheat.

  68. kindbass says: Jul 4, 2017 11:21 AM

    Colts are like the Trump of the NFL. Accuse everyone else of doing what you’re doing.

  69. Lemmy Aksyadis says: Jul 4, 2017 11:33 AM

    LyinRogerMustGo says:
    Jul 4, 2017 10:14 AM
    Fully inflated footballs are much harder to throw I guess.

    harder balls travel faster, farther and more accurately. so your case is that Brady went out of his way to use balls in their least efficient form for what reason exactly? Oh that’s right, the old “softer balls are easier to catch” meme. yup, that sure trumps the other three qualities.Brady has teeny hands meme? Yeah, hope you get a chance to see the size of his mitts, he’s 6’5″.

  70. redclaw1314 says: Jul 4, 2017 12:02 PM

    This needs to be investigated—–there is no statute of limitations in the NFL as far as I know—the integrity of the game is of utmost importance—right Roger?

  71. bigbabysaywah says: Jul 4, 2017 12:19 PM

    I have to say I remember the Vikings doing something like this and it was covered in the game so everyone knew about it. Maybe it was preseason but I definitely had heard of this so maybe it was ok’d by nfl.

  72. patsfan4lifesbchamps says: Jul 4, 2017 12:22 PM

    Given that the Colts went 3-13 in Manning’s rookie year, the hearing aids clearly didn’t help them. It just goes to show you the Colts coaching staff didn’t have a clue of what they were doing. It’s no wonder Manning had to be the QB and the offensive coordinator all at the same time. Too bad Manning had to face the GOAT coach who also happens to be the GOAT defensive coordinator almost every year of his career.

  73. megnailsit says: Jul 4, 2017 12:33 PM

    Kravitz has thrown up a few paragraphs condemning this, yet he still manages to piss all over the Patriots in the same breath. Can’t wait to see how Doyel spins it.

  74. harrisonhits2 says: Jul 4, 2017 12:59 PM

    “I’m still waiting for the NFL to thoroughly investigate Peyton Manning and his HGH. When you’re innocent, you never want to allow a lawyer to send private investigators to a clinic to check your files as they said in the media. Not only that, but allow these same investigators to speak with the accuser and intimidate them until they recant the real story.”

    Actually what they did was send “investigators” to the guy’s parent’s house in the middle of the night to threaten them and their son.

    Imagine if Brady had done something like that? The outrage would have been enormous, he would have universally been pronounced guilty and likely banned from the league.

    Its called a double standard and Roger’s sweet 6 of the Jets, Giants, Steelters, Colts, Donks and Ravens can do anything they want while everyone else, not just the Pats, gets hammered.

    Prime example, Atlanta penalized for piping in crowd noise, Colts the league helped conceal it.

  75. LyinRogerMustGo says: Jul 4, 2017 1:00 PM

    Lemmy Aksyadis says:
    Jul 4, 2017 11:33 AM

    LyinRogerMustGo says:
    Jul 4, 2017 10:14 AM
    Fully inflated footballs are much harder to throw I guess.

    harder balls travel faster, farther and more accurately. so your case is that Brady went out of his way to use balls in their least efficient form for what reason exactly? Oh that’s right, the old “softer balls are easier to catch” meme. yup, that sure trumps the other three qualities.Brady has teeny hands meme? Yeah, hope you get a chance to see the size of his mitts, he’s 6’5″.

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    I was talking about LUCK silly 🙂 Of course I know Brady is GOAT and would never resort to that kind of thing to be that way.

    🙂

  76. kferguson2002 says: Jul 4, 2017 1:13 PM

    Patriots*

  77. plum54 says: Jul 4, 2017 1:28 PM

    Patriots: the only team to win FIVE Super Bowls with the Same QB- is that what the * is kferguson ?? Because there aren’t any in the records book!

  78. RandyinRoxbury says: Jul 4, 2017 1:36 PM

    Please don’t say Belicheat, its very hurtful to us lifer Pats fans.

  79. theothertyson says: Jul 4, 2017 1:44 PM

    Pretty sure he’s talking about the insert that looks like an earplug with a small hole in it. Not an electronic device.

    The media looks for any little morsel it can to inflame into a story.

  80. truthdispensary says: Jul 4, 2017 1:49 PM

    mmack66 says:

    dumbassenstien says:
    Jul 4, 2017 9:11 AM

    Any assertion that “all teams cheat” is either a foolish momentary lapse of reason by those making that claim. Or, just a bold faced lie, intended to normalize the despicable acts of the Patricheats. Individuals cheat, but it’s pretty rare for a team to have a culture of cheating, like the Patricheats do.
    —————————–

    The only thing the Patriots have a culture of is winning. But feel free to carry on with your delusion
    ———————————-

    Delusion? Looking in the mirror? No team has more documented & proven incidents of cheating over the last 20 years than the Patricheats. Anyone stating otherwise is just ignoring the facts.

  81. Flash1287 says: Jul 4, 2017 2:42 PM

    truthdispensary says:
    Jul 4, 2017 1:49 PM
    mmack66 says:

    dumbassenstien says:
    Jul 4, 2017 9:11 AM

    Any assertion that “all teams cheat” is either a foolish momentary lapse of reason by those making that claim. Or, just a bold faced lie, intended to normalize the despicable acts of the Patricheats. Individuals cheat, but it’s pretty rare for a team to have a culture of cheating, like the Patricheats do.
    —————————–

    The only thing the Patriots have a culture of is winning. But feel free to carry on with your delusion
    ———————————-

    Delusion? Looking in the mirror? No team has more documented & proven incidents of cheating over the last 20 years than the Patricheats. Anyone stating otherwise is just ignoring the facts.

    Actually it would be the Broncos but hey, believe what you want

    #Jealousy

  82. factpurveyor says: Jul 4, 2017 3:13 PM

    truthdispensary says:
    Jul 4, 2017 1:49 PM

    Anyone stating otherwise is just ignoring the facts.

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    Here’s some facts and documentation which can only be ignored by willfully ignorant science denying dupes:

    On or about January 18, 2015 Roger Goodell’s NFL was using the power of the media to convince people that someone let air out of footballs.

    The first information concerning that alleged football deflation was PSI measurements where incorrect PSI measurements were incorrectly reported by countless media outlets for a good part of a year before being corrected.

    The NFL had told everyone that football pressures were very important. The NFL even announced that they would take measurements during games played during the 2015 NFL season.

    It’s now 2017 and for the entire history of the NFL and for every game played since 1/18/2015 football fans have only ever been given the measurements for 14 footballs. Which is odd because there are 256 regular season games played each season plus 11 playoff games. Each team uses 12 footballs per game.

    According to information on the NFL website, “Wilson Sporting Goods provides at least 24,960 official game footballs each season — 780 per team — for game use.” That’s a whole lot of footballs. So why have footballs fans only been told the following PSI measurements in the entire history of the NFL?

    • PSI measurements on 1/18/2015 for 11 footballs belonging to the Patriots which were measured and then those measurements were incorrectly reported by the media.

    • PSI measurements on 1/18/2015 for 4 footballs belonging to the Colts, which were measured after allowing the footballs to warm up indoors while all 11 of the Patriots footballs were measured twice. The measurements were still below regulation even after they were allowed to warm up, which anyone that understands 7th grade science understands will cause the PSI numbers to increase.

    Anyone with a clue would have alternated the measurements using footballs of both teams. Not alternating made the results invalid but the NFL still reported them and didn’t do anything to correct the false PSI numbers that everyone came to believe.

    Seems like football fans should have been told more than 15 measurements out the almost 50,000 footballs that were used in 2016 and 2016 alone. Especially since it was 2015 when footballs fans were told how important proper football inflation is.

  83. lifetimefan says: Jul 4, 2017 3:14 PM

    That may explain Omaha, maybe that mensa member Peyton was sayin, Oh Mama, as in Oh Mama I can’t hear a friken thing

  84. LyinRogerMustGo says: Jul 4, 2017 3:35 PM

    All teams cheat in one form or another


    Speculation. But now we know the Colts do!

    🙂

  85. factpurveyor says: Jul 4, 2017 3:41 PM

    truthdispensary says:
    Jul 4, 2017 1:49 PM

    Delusion? Looking in the mirror? No team has more documented & proven incidents of cheating over the last 20 years than the Patricheats. Anyone stating otherwise is just ignoring the facts.

    —————————————————————-

    Roger Goodell did a good job of convincing all the willfully ignorant science denying sheep to believe that someone let air out of footballs.

    Anyone know when Roger Goodell plans on issuing that press release containing the PSI information that was collected during the 2015 season?

    It’s not like it’s a big secret any more that cold weather lowers the PSI in footballs. Intelligent people already did tests and posted the videos online. Anyone that can copy & paste can search for the following video online on the popular video site: “DEFLATE GATE & WHY SCIENCE SAYS THE PATRIOTS DID NOT TAMPER WITH FOOTBALLS”

  86. bullcharger says: Jul 4, 2017 3:45 PM

    Lets not forget that Brad Johnson voluntarily admitted he paid a ball boy $7500 to tamper with all 100 footballs in 2002/2003 before the Super Bowl (back when they were centrally managed) so they were to his liking.

    That went nowhere at all. It was completely ignored by the NFL.

    There is no way this story will get any legs either. It will be filed under “fun cheating stories from the past” like when Rice used Stickum or when the 49ers O Linemen used to put silicone on their jerseys.

    It’s all fully admitted cheating, but it is seen as an old war story (as it probably should be).

    How the league treated deflategate was unprecedented and unfair and it only happened because the other owners were looking to punish the Patriots again for Spygate and all the subsequent winning.

  87. factpurveyor says: Jul 4, 2017 4:00 PM

    Keep the jealousy coming Patriot hater.

    Silly Patriot hater must believe that down voting a single post numerous times changes the truth.

    I guess endless trolling of the best team is the only recourse for a fan that roots for a pathetic weak team with no chance to win anything.

  88. LyinRogerMustGo says: Jul 4, 2017 4:02 PM

    Tee hee 🙂 I love getting literally right in Patriot Hater’s grill and running my mouth 🙂 It’s not like they’re going to do anything about it 🙂

    I keep doing it because… why because I can silly! It’s so EASY to get under their skin! And fun too!

    Just look at all the Wussies thumbs downing this post!

    🙂

  89. factpurveyor says: Jul 4, 2017 4:18 PM

    Cheaters never win!

    The best example is the karma that is on display when you watch a video that is posted online video online titled “THE TUCK RULE – 10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY”

    In that video you can see you can see #21 Eric Allen Raiders cornerback standing on the Patriots sideline as the Patriots are talking about the play the Patriots are going to run.
    In the video Eric Allen also admits that the told the cheating Raiders the Patriots play.

    Then Allen says that the Raiders put a defense in to specifically cover the player that Tom Brady was going to pass to. That is why Tom Brady had to tuck the football in the first place.

    So if the Raiders did not steal the play call with that sleazy tactic, then the tuck rule play never happens and Tom Brady likely completes a pass to win the game. Tom Brady obviously had the skill to do it.

    The Raiders trying to cheat the Patriots is especially lame considering how the Raiders benefited from one of the worst calls in NFL history back in 1976. That horrible call likely cost the Patriots a superbowl win. The Raiders then “won” the superbowl that year. That gift was not enough to stop the Raiders from trying to cheat the Patriots in 2001.

  90. rainsarge says: Jul 4, 2017 4:24 PM

    Hearing aid or small helmet radios?

  91. forthegoodofthegame says: Jul 4, 2017 4:39 PM

    Patriots fan here, and this revelation really makes little difference. The record is clear head to head, except to say that the Peyton worshipping cult clearly has enough evidence for introspection before hating on the Patriots and Brady next time. By your rules, the Patriots and the league office should be placing an asterisk beside every Peyton Manning victory since 1998. On that day of introspection, feel free to remember that this information did not come from the Patriots organization or their fans.

  92. factpurveyor says: Jul 4, 2017 4:41 PM

    LyinRogerMustGo says:
    Jul 4, 2017 4:02 PM

    I keep doing it because… why because I can silly! It’s so EASY to get under their skin! And fun too!

    Just look at all the Wussies thumbs downing this post!

    ———————————————————-
    In this case it’s just one wuss who is voting many times for posts by posters who got under his/her skin.

    Keep up the good work.

  93. 345snarkavenue says: Jul 4, 2017 4:53 PM

    This will get filed alongside ribgate.

  94. harrisonhits2 says: Jul 4, 2017 5:06 PM

    Here’s something for you “culture of cheating” people to consider –

    Colt’s history of cheating the holier than thou softies –

    2005 Noisegate – pumped in artificial crowd noise during Steelers possessions, a Steelers official pointed out many unidentified microphones attached atop poles and around the lower perimeter of the stadium that had nothing to do with the TV broadcast but the league refused to investigate

    2006 Roast The Pats-gate – turned heat in their dome up to 90 degrees when they knew several critical Pats players had the flu. At the same time turned off the cold water in the Pats locker room. In the end they still needed a penalty called for “face guarding” which had been removed from the list of penalties 2 years prior to win the game. Face guarding was no longer a penalty at that time.

    2007 Noisegate – caught on national TV piping in artificial crowd noise during game against Pats

    2011 Suck for Luck

    2012-2014 PED Use (TE Saunders 2012 & 2013, FS Landry (2014), LB Mathis (2014), G Thomas (2014) – hmm is 3 players on the same team busted for PEDs indicative of a “team wide scheme” to use PEDs ? Is it enough to declare the Colts as a whole “cheaters” ?

    2014 Noisegate – John Harbaugh accused the Colts of piping in artificial crowd noise though it was never proven in this case

    2015 Deflategate – 3 of the 4 Colts balls measured by the gauge the league used by the Wells report to determine the psi of Pats balls, however the league and Wells set aside that info as if it didn’t exist and all the Colts balls were legal

    2015 Framegate – the Colts claimed that the DB who intercepted a ball from Brady immediately went to the coaches claiming the ball felt very soft, though when later interviewed said DB claimed he never made any such claim to his coaches and the ball felt “fine”, that ball was then the only one of the Pats balls that was too far under allowable psi levels to be explained by the ideal gas law, the league has refused to investigate the possibility

    That’s quite a “culture of cheating” throughout the Manning and Luck years of the Colts franchise.

  95. crush22 says: Jul 4, 2017 5:32 PM

    cheating” people to consider –

    Colt’s history of cheating the holier than thou softies –

    2005 Noisegate – pumped in artificial crowd noise during Steelers possessions, a Steelers official pointed out many unidentified microphones attached atop poles and around the lower perimeter of the stadium that had nothing to do with the TV broadcast but the league refused to investigate

    2006 Roast The Pats-gate – turned heat in their dome up to 90 degrees when they knew several critical Pats players had the flu. At the same time turned off the cold water in the Pats locker room. In the end they still needed a penalty called for “face guarding” which had been removed from the list of penalties 2 years prior to win the game. Face guarding was no longer a penalty at that time.

    2007 Noisegate – caught on national TV piping in artificial crowd noise during game against Pats

    2011 Suck for Luck

    2012-2014 PED Use (TE Saunders 2012 & 2013, FS Landry (2014), LB Mathis (2014), G Thomas (2014) – hmm is 3 players on the same team busted for PEDs indicative of a “team wide scheme” to use PEDs ? Is it enough to declare the Colts as a whole “cheaters” ?

    2014 Noisegate – John Harbaugh accused the Colts of piping in artificial crowd noise though it was never proven in this case

    2015 Deflategate – 3 of the 4 Colts balls measured by the gauge the league used by the Wells report to determine the psi of Pats balls, however the league and Wells set aside that info as if it didn’t exist and all the Colts balls were legal

    2015 Framegate – the Colts claimed that the DB who intercepted a ball from Brady immediately went to the coaches claiming the ball felt very soft, though when later interviewed said DB claimed he never made any such claim to his coaches and the ball felt “fine”, that ball was then the only one of the Pats balls that was too far under allowable psi levels to be explained by the ideal gas law, the league has refused to investigate the possibility

    That’s quite a “culture of cheating” throughout the Manning and Luck years of the Colts franchise.
    _____________
    And yet none were proven. Just because you copy and paste the same drivel in ever Colts article doesn’t make it true.
    Patsie*

  96. LyinRogerMustGo says: Jul 4, 2017 5:42 PM

    Cheaters never win!

    The best example is the karma that is on display when you watch a video that is posted online video online titled “THE TUCK RULE – 10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY”

    In that video you can see you can see #21 Eric Allen Raiders cornerback standing on the Patriots sideline as the Patriots are talking about the play the Patriots are going to run.
    In the video Eric Allen also admits that the told the cheating Raiders the Patriots play.

    —–
    “There is nothing good in life that isn’t worth cheating for”
    – Al Davis

    “Cheating is Encouraged”
    – The Oakland Raiders

    Need I say more? 🙂

    I will always believe that Dreith was paid off in 76. There is no other logical explanation for that call.

  97. Obi Wan Jablowme says: Jul 4, 2017 5:55 PM

    hugeheavywoman says:
    Jul 3, 2017 11:09 PM
    The Pats have been doing this for years.
    ====================

    This is the kind of thing that absolutely cracks me up. Whenever there is any talk about the patriots and cheating, there will always be one or two people who say something like “how about you give us some examples of this serial cheating”. And the response is always the same old accusations. Never anything new. Using hearing aids in violation of the rules, would constitute something new that should be shared when given the opportunity. But no one ever said it. And then, as teams not named the patriots are accused of various cheating scandals, someone always says “nothing to see here, the pats have been doing this for years”, as if it’s A- some well known scandal, so well known, in fact, that they weren’t able to mention when asked to give specifics, and B- it’s a way to let the team not named patriots off the hook. It amazes what fans who hate the patriots will accept from other teams, but want to smear the patriots for not listing a hang nail on the injury report. Laughable and pathetic

  98. harrisonhits2 says: Jul 4, 2017 6:10 PM

    “And yet none were proven. Just because you copy and paste the same drivel in ever Colts article doesn’t make it true.”

    Every article? Hardly. I’ve posted this list maybe 3 or 4 times in the last 2 years.

    And you may want to think again. The whole world heard their crowd noise CD skip on national TV.

    The PED suspensions are all “proven” since the league suspended the players.

    Roast the Pats gate is factual and well known. The heat was turned up and the cold water was turned off in the Pats locker room, and Colts did get a face guarding call at the very end of the game which gave them a huge 40-50 yard pickup allowing them to make their final score to win, 2 years after face guarding had been removed as a penalty. Replay clearly showed Ellis Hobbs never touched the receiver.

    The whole world saw them tanking to Suck For Luck and the Colts have openly admitted cheating on the injury report regarding his broken ribs.

    3 of the 4 Colts balls measured for the deflategate scam were as much under 12.5 psi as the Pats balls were. The one Pats ball far under that level was the one the Colts gauged and let air out of on the sideline per the Wells report. And by the ways its illegal for teams to even have gauges on the sidelines or tamper with another team’s ball. More cheating. The Colts did lie and say the player who intercepted the ball complained to the it was “soft” because when he was interviewed by various networks he made it clear he never made that statement to the Colts coaching staff.

    The 2005 and 2014 noisegates you could argue are “unproven” but if the Pats had mics on poles all around the stadium that were not part of the TV broadcast you can be sure people like you would be screaming cheating and the league would no doubt fine and penalize them.

    So yes, most of those are well documented facts. And now we add an illegal comm system to that.

    Keep telling yourself the Colts don’t cheat, but they are one of the couple dirtiest teams in the league.

  99. forthegoodofthegame says: Jul 4, 2017 6:42 PM

    I would love to hear Bill Polian’s self-serving explanation for why one of his own chosen linemen would say such a thing. Maybe Roger Goodell will help him draft it.

  100. nyfcat says: Jul 4, 2017 7:06 PM

    Wait, I thought the Pats were the only team that bent the rules? **Insert inappropriately loud fart noise**

  101. redclaw1314 says: Jul 4, 2017 8:28 PM

    Accusing other teams of cheating when you are cheaters yourselves—–doesn’t create good Karma baby

  102. mikespillane337 says: Jul 5, 2017 10:56 AM

    All that whining the colts did after all those one and done playoff appearances made earplugs a vital piece of equipment.I still use them when I see a peyton commercial.

  103. dennisaok says: Jul 5, 2017 11:49 AM

    I don’t see why this should be illegal, but if it is the penalty should be no more than a stiff fine. That’s also what New England should have received for Deflategate. Goodell lost all sense of proportion after looking like a fool in the Ray Rice affair.

  104. mikespillane337 says: Jul 5, 2017 12:15 PM

    The h(gh)earing aids were meant for my wife.

    Sincerely,peyton manning

  105. ibillwt says: Jul 5, 2017 1:18 PM

    Should have had nose plugs so they didn’t smell #18 soiling himself behind center in the playoffs.

  106. gotdebttoo says: Jul 5, 2017 6:29 PM

    “Roast the Pats gate is factual and well known”

    EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT IT
    SO IT’S TRUE

  107. buckswig says: Jul 6, 2017 1:40 PM

    bannedfromchoirpractice says:
    Jul 3, 2017 9:28 PM

    How do you know the players weren’t hard of hearing? Hearing devices are protected under the ADA. That is federal law.

    ********************************

    I cant hear you.

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