All quiet on the RGIII front

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Nothing is more valuable in the NFL than a talented quarterback, and yet there’s a quarterback who has been chosen to a Pro Bowl, has led a team to the playoffs, is just 27 years old, and can’t get so much as a sniff from any team in the league: Robert Griffin III.

We at PFT monitor every single report about player signings around the NFL, and we haven’t had a post about Griffin since the day he was cut by the Browns, on March 10. We’ve mentioned Griffin a handful of times, but generally in passing when listing veteran quarterbacks who are available. There hasn’t been so much as a rumor of a team that might bring him in for a workout, or a visit, or offer him a league-minimum contract.

Griffin’s immense talent made him the second overall pick and the rookie of the year in 2012. His knee injury that postseason may have permanently changed him as a player, but what would be the harm in offering him a camp-arm contract and letting him show if he still has something left?

There are no questions about whether Griffin can keep his mouth shut and avoid being a distraction as a backup, because that’s exactly what he did in his last season in Washington. He was benched for Kirk Cousins in the preseason, never played a down all year, and also never complained in the media or made the kinds of headlines that coaches don’t want their backup quarterbacks to make. Griffin hasn’t been arrested or otherwise been in off-field trouble, and his social media presence consists of things like welcoming his newborn daughter into the world and announcing that his foundation has given money to support an injured firefighter. He conducts himself exactly the way teams want players to conduct themselves off the field.

And yet Griffin remains unemployed, with training camps fast approaching. Griffin wasn’t particularly good in Cleveland last year, but he was no worse than Josh McCown, who managed to get a $6 million salary this year with the Jets. Among the quarterbacks who have shown significantly less upside than Griffin but have managed to sign with new teams this offseason are Mark Sanchez, Nick Foles, Josh Johnson, Aaron Murray, Case Keenum, Geno Smith, David Fales, T.J. Yates, EJ Manuel, Matt McGloin, Blaine Gabbert and Austin Davis. If you’re an NFL coach and your starting quarterback goes down, would you really rather turn to Murray, Manuel or McGloin than Griffin?

Apparently some coaches would. And so Griffin will have to hope the call that hasn’t come yet comes some time before the start of the season.

83 responses to “All quiet on the RGIII front

  1. He’s a self absorbed, injury prone clown.

    Only QB more toxic than RG3 is Kaepernick. And I guess since Kaepernick rage has subsided, this is the next one.

  2. Not to stir the pot, but the majority of the other QB’s you mentioned are either white, or were “quietly black”. There’s a stupid bit of racism in the NFL – GMs are scared of a vocal, black QB who will “stir things up” like Kapernick. RGIII isn’t the type to stir – but he’s popular enough that, if he did, a GM would have a PR headache. Hence the racism. It’s wrong. RGIII was a good QB who deserves at least a minimum chance to compete. I’m not a Washington fan – I root Cowboy silver and blue – but this kid lit it up when he had the chance. Here’s hoping for some growth among our owners and GMs.

  3. Griffin’s dad ruined his career. Coaches coach and parents parent. Griffin Sr. didn’t know the difference and damaged his son’s reputation in the NFL.

  4. Well, his first season he was good and did make the Pro Bowl and his next 2 seasons were not good and he proved that he and those around him did not deal well with adversity.

    His last stint with the Browns was even worse. The NFL is full of one hit wonders and I’m guessing that most teams at this point question his ability. He’ll probably get another shot at being a backup but he’s not played himself into getting much attention his last seasons…

  5. I was a tepid fan of RGIII out of college. His WORST fault, was not even his own – being ‘managed’ by Skin’s owner, Dan “I don’t care that I don’t know football, it’s my team and I get to do what I want to do” Snyder.
    He destroyed whatever there was about RGIII. The ONE thing he could have done to help him was to leave natural turf to sport turf but no, he wanted to make sure his start QB would be worthless. He succeeded.

  6. One of my favorite axioms: The most important stat is games played.

    Even as a backup, his availability has to be questioned. He’s perpetually one solid hit away from a season ending injury, and his playing style leads to taking big hits. Sure, he has tons of potential, but he’s made of glass.

    I’m sure his attitude has improved and he’s a solid team player, but I wouldn’t risk a contract on such a fragile liability. Even when healthy, he’s never been the same since his rookie year.

  7. vicnocal says:
    Jul 11, 2017 11:48 AM
    Surely it must be because he used to kneel during the national anthem, right?

    Oh wait, that was that other guy. RACISM!! then.
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    …we all know there’s no Racism in sports!
    Why just the other day I was watching a great hockey game. I could not believe 2 white guys going toe to toe center ice…blow for blow and the teammates paired off and the refs stood back to watch the mayhem and rabid fans were screaming…when all was finished both offenders went to the box for 15min. Im still waiting to see what fines, suspensions and other penalties will be forthcoming (you know like the ones football and BB payers get). I knew I should’ve strived to be a Hockey player skating on the bogs of Southeastern Mass.

  8. I just keep thinking about him approaching Romo after they beat us on Thanksgiving (he torched us that day) and patting Romo on the shoulders saying “hey man, dont worry about your critics, you are gonna be fine”, at this point only 7 or8 games into what he must have thought was going to be a HOF career. Knee injury aside, once RGIII had to face some real adversity, he wilted, literally, which to me is the true measure of a man.

  9. Pre-injury he was an elite athlete playing the quarterback position who couldn’t read defenses. Post-injury he’s an athlete playing the quarterback position who can’t read defenses.

  10. I’m skeptical it’s based on race. After all, didn’t he get cut by Hue Jackson? (i might be wrong). But if the guy was lighting it up, winning games, and putting money in the pockets he would be playing right now.

    Maybe it had something to do with the drama between him, Snyder and Shannahan that was somewhat public, combined with him sucking… just a thought.

  11. I was a tepid fan of RGIII out of college. His WORST fault, was not even his own – being ‘managed’ by Skin’s owner, Dan “I don’t care that I don’t know football, it’s my team and I get to do what I want to do” Snyder.
    He destroyed whatever there was about RGIII. The ONE thing he could have done to help him was to leave natural turf to sport turf but no, he wanted to make sure his start QB would be worthless. He succeeded.

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    I can’t help but think trying to play through a pretty bad knee injury his rookie year didn’t change the course of his career as well. Boy was he fun to watch that rookie season, and at the time I loved to watch his grit and determination to not let the injury stop him, it’s too bad because it seemed like he might be a special player.

  12. The reason he’s not yet had a sniff has nothing to do with physical talent.. He still has got a golden arm and still runs like a gazelle. It’s because he is still making rookie mental errors like running out of bounds and taking a sack rater then throwing it away, making bad reads and forcing it coupled with the injury history that earned in the moniker RG glass.

  13. Obviously he’s not going to start for anyone but with guys like Blaine Gabbert and Austin Davis having jobs, there’s no reason he should be jobless.

  14. Did anybody outside of Cleveland watch RGIII last year? Didn’t think so. Let me sum it up for you – he got hurt on his first good hit of the season in Week 1, couldn’t come back until December and then played crappy. I wonder why he isn’t getting a sniff anywhere?

  15. Josh McCown is good which explains his salary. RG3 is a running QB who can’t throw from the pocket. Also, Robert may have played nice for the camera after his benching but he was a coach killer before. Mike Shannahan is an easy target for the public, but he’s respected by colleagues. He’s probably been asked about Robert by any people who weren’t smart enough to google media articles about Roberts circumvention of the chain of command. Odd behavior for a military brat, but not so odd for a millennial.

  16. Racists always reveal themselves with bringing it up when no one even implied it in this instance. Florio is simply wondering why the guy doesn’t have a camp arm contract considering that the terrible Josh Mcown who has never been good at playing football at anytime in his career and who helped get 2 different teams the top 2 picks in back to back years and who is just as injury prone got a contract while he can’t get a sniff. Also, EJ Manuel is black to guys, or I guess when you have an agenda, you overlook pesky things like that. Nearly 100 QB jobs at this point of the off-season, yet he has no job, which is a bit strange even if you hate the guy personally, something that would be a bit strange in itself and rather pathetic.

  17. Can’t look off receivers; worst pocket presence ever, purposely puts himself in harm’s way often; injured and injury prone.

    Anything else you want to know about RG3’s game?

  18. At some point do you have to wonder if it’s not more beneficial for RGIII and other big-name, low-demand (usually aging) players (Anquan Boldin, Brandon Flowers, etc..) to take a gamble and “skip” free agency to speak?

    Sign in training camp, or after, when a team loses a starter due to injury. Might even go to a contender, when there was no chance of that happening at the beginning of FA. Look what the Vikings gave up for Bradford when Teddy went down. I know Bradford wasn’t a FA, but my point is that teams (especially contenders) get desperate real quick once the season starts.

    The player is almost guaranteed more money, or at least more playing time if replacing a starter. They could then turn a half-season performance into a long-term deal. Win-win situation… not saying that is exactly what is happening here, but it’s worth thinking about.

  19. RG3 has character and confidence issues, enough so that organizations are passing on him even for a backup role.

    If he didn’t, at minimum Steelers or Patriots would have brought him for a look and possibly a project.

  20. Freaks out and runs from the pocket, poor decision making, always injured. Not that hard to figure out.

  21. …we haven’t had a post about Griffin since the day he was cut by the Browns
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    You just answered your own query – clearly you missed it so I’ll reiterate for you – CUT BY THE BROWNS.

  22. stearnse1 says:
    Jul 11, 2017 11:44 AM
    Not to stir the pot, but the majority of the other QB’s you mentioned are either white, or were “quietly black”. There’s a stupid bit of racism in the NFL – GMs are scared of a vocal, black QB who will “stir things up” like Kapernick. RGIII isn’t the type to stir – but he’s popular enough that, if he did, a GM would have a PR headache. Hence the racism. It’s wrong. RGIII was a good QB who deserves at least a minimum chance to compete. I’m not a Washington fan – I root Cowboy silver and blue – but this kid lit it up when he had the chance. Here’s hoping for some growth among our owners and GMs.

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    The most often mentioned QB by PFT has been Colin Kaepernick, hands down. And the last time I looked he is black.
    I am so sick and tired of people like you constantly painting people as racists.
    Just look at what you wrote — you said RGIII isn’t the type to stir, but he’s popular enough that, if he did, a GM would have a PR headache. That’s incredibly presumptuous of you!!
    The fact is, RGIII has not been nearly the same QB since he got hurt. His greatest asset was his speed, and he simply doesn’t have that anymore. And, he was viewed by a lot of his teammates in Washington as caring more about himself than his team.
    As for GM’s not wanting a black QB who will “stir things up”, they don’t want a white QB who will do that, either.
    You can go all the way back to Joe Namath for proof of that. He caused the Jets GM / Head Coach Weeb Ewbank a lot of sleepless nights, especially when Pete Rozelle went after him because mob figures were hanging out in his restaurant. Namath even held a tearful press conference over that and said he would quit.
    If you want to join Michael David Smith in saying you think someone would be smart in signing RGIII, fine. But leave race out of it because all you’re doing is what many blacks do. They scream racism because they can, even when there is no basis for it. And in this case, you are wrong.

  23. I thought he looked decent that first year. He ran too much, but seemed like he was understanding the pocket. Then they made him play on the bad leg and he never recovered. Definitely lost confidence and that cannot happen in this league.
    Doesn’t have anything to do with racism.
    Plus he’s a conservative.

  24. sick of the race card
    This guy sucks and his ego got him there along with his play.

    Guess what? Teddy Bridgewater didn’t play a down last year and is incredibly popular in Minnesota. And, he’s black! Shocker!

  25. Hmmmnnn? I don’t think race has anything to do with it. He’s a running QB that is now a shell of his former self. Most systems are for pocket passers. Who wants to get their QBs beat up? He’s not very good at reading defenses and will pull it down and run before the play develops. He’s not a very accurate passer despite a strong arm.

  26. Hue jackson held a fake QB competition with RG me last year. The fix was in so bad that MKC raved about how he looked in 3 player drills.

    Jesus like Kaepernick and now RG me.

  27. ^p.s. I’m not questioning the parenting of any individual QBs, but saying that endemic lack of fathering is impacting the community – once sufficient numbers of boys lack involved fathers this impinges on the actions and attitudes of the rest too, changing the group-peer dynamic.

  28. Yeah, and nice comparing him to a known drug addict like Manziel. Reach much? Again, who brought up race with this guy? Just shows how defensive some people are on the topic, which probably points to some horrible things you’re doing in your personal life to even bring it up when it’s not even implied.

  29. “Griffin wasn’t particularly good in Cleveland last year, but he was no worse than Josh McCown…”

    Uh, yes he was. That’s why Cleveland let him go. He was the worst of the 47 QBs they played.

  30. 700levelvet says:
    Jul 11, 2017 12:09 PM
    Maybe a new “Brand” or something…
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    That’s the 1st funny thing you have ever posted. But that was a good one, sir.

  31. When he was drafted he made splash a few years latter he did a cannon ball

    No class all about him

    Guess Subway will have to find a new spokes person

  32. The flip side of this:

    RG3 demanded a meeting with a 2x Super Bowl winning coach and an OC who designed an offense in a couple months that turned Griffin’s unique skill set into the best Rookie QB season ever. In that meeting, he told them he would no longer be running that offense and demanded to be put at the helm of a “normal” offense.

    Since then, that OC has since proven himself to be perhaps the best in the league – certainly top 5.

    Griffin, on the other hand, has had a personal and professional meltdown that boggles the mind. He has been unable to stay healthy or perform when healthy. He left his wife for an instagram crush when she was pregnant with his daughter. The tire fire may be less publicized, but it is blazing nonetheless.

    So, no, I wouldn’t want him either.

  33. “…who has been chosen to a Pro Bowl, has led a team to the playoffs, is just 27 years old,…”

    All the accolades were in Griffin’s rookie season. Like the one MLB player who hit a grand slam on the first pitch he saw in the majors – all downhill from there if you can’t maintain it.

  34. Enough of the racism BS. If a QB can play, he will find a job. He played well his first year because he played playground football. He can’t read a defense and doesn’t throw well from the pocket. He’s too much of a liability when he runs. A QB gets paid too much money to have him running around and getting hurt. And I think you can see the pendulum swinging from running QBs to ones that have mobility and can run when needed, but can also read a defense and beat you with their arm. RGIII doesn’t fit any of those qualifications.

  35. Wow. We are doing quarterback controversies about every unemployed player who we think are better than the rest of the whole world knows they are. Too bad the internet wasn’t around when Jeff George was looking for a job and openly advertising in every interview he would play for anyone to the sound of crickets in return.

  36. dirtydrynn27 says:
    Jul 11, 2017 12:26 PM
    The way I see it….If Fitzpatrick can get a contract,anybody can…..Didnt he throw like 6 INTs in one game??? Griffin was never that bad!!!

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    Aaaaaand…….does Fitzgerald have a contract?

  37. The league isn’t tolerating QB’s who have a run first mentality anymore. Either you learn how to actually sit in the pocket, read defenses and pass or your out the league.

    It’s just that simple. And I’m glad. This 20 year experiment with the “running QB” seems to be finally over.

  38. I think we’ve seen all the upside Griffin has to offer, and it falls well short of what NFL coaches are looking for. He’s a great guy and a VERY solid citizen, and hopefully, things break his way.

    As for those who don’t buy the knee injury, he blew his knee out late in his rookie season and should have been pulled then and there. Instead, he played on and aggravated it in the playoffs. The extent of the injury caused him to realize that he needed to change his game in order to survive. A pocket passer he ain’t. If he can’t use his feet to create openings and mismatches, he’s not able to play at the high level expected of NFL quarterbacks.

    This Redskins fan was thrilled to have him – his rookie year was sensational in all regards. But after the injury, it was easy to see that he was not the same player playing the same game. It became painful to watch. Almost embarrassing.

    It would be great if he could catch on as an assistant at Baylor. They could really use his standing and character.

  39. streetyson says:
    Jul 11, 2017 1:53 PM
    ^p.s. I’m not questioning the parenting of any individual QBs, but saying that endemic lack of fathering is impacting the community – once sufficient numbers of boys lack involved fathers this impinges on the actions and attitudes of the rest too, changing the group-peer dynamic.
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    For some reason PFT or wordpress blocked my main message but not this immediate p.s. The main message I wrote was in response to those posters raising race issues. I went into analyses, such as the Chicago Tribune a few years back calling the lack of black fathers and it’s impact on Black America an “epidemic,” and I pondered how it might be changing the critical mass of black male youth from respecting elders to mouthy narcissists and mommies “little-emporers”. Down-thumb all you want, or go and research all the issues surrounding absentee fathers and the effect on their sons – your choice. These aren’t just affecting black America, but a social issue with the rise of single-mothers of all races – but black America is where more of the problem is currently at, and the direction it is going for other groups too.

  40. He isn’t accurate, makes terrible decisions and is injury prone. Gee I wonder why no one wants him.

  41. As the season fells some of the QB’s, RGIII will get a call.
    Glennon goes down in Chicago, you put MT in, or do you sign RGIII as backup?

  42. Last year the Bengals, Ravens and Steelers hoped that RG3 would be their starter ahead of Kessler or McNown. That tells you why no one wants him, because the guy knows how to deliver a L.

  43. I resent those who invoke the race card when an unqualified, over-hyped, dysfunctional, injury prone, unable to read a defense, throwing team members under the bus, and stealing credit black player is held accountable for being what he is.

    It is about time you all stop whining when a black person is held accountable – their skin color does not make them immune from feedback and criticism (and everything I said about him above is the truth).

    The case of the Great Gimmick is manifold with poor performance. He has never learned how to improve and he has never been held accountable – quite frankly, he’s been treated with kid gloves because he’s black.

    And when you race-baiters are throwing around racism – why aren’t you advocating for firing the over-population of black players compared to their percentage of the population!

  44. There’s a reason why the name RGMe stuck.

    I remember when Dante’ Culpepper was on the Lions and they drafted Matthew Stafford. Throughout the offseason he was defiant in media interviews about giving up the starters job. When Stafford was selected to start the regular season, all season long Culp he went off by himself on the sidelines and pouted, never lifting a finger to help Stafford, rarely even talking to him, choosing not to participate in coach/QB discussions. He was a moody malcontent who’s bruised ego got in the way.

    Some backups are good backups because they help the starter prepare, are supportive and know their role. Some are very smart too, like Ryan Fitzpatrick and Kellen Moore and act as another coach.

    The RGMe image probably seeps into coaches minds when they think about him, and how he’d be more like Culpepper than a Fitzpatrick.

  45. Btw it was white guys standing up for Robert when black pundits were calling him a “cornball brother” because he dared to say he wanted to be the best qb not a black qb symbol. I believe the words were he “wasn’t down with the cause”. He’s or was a church going military kid and he was considered a good kid. He just wasn’t good. It’s the Tebow standard I suppose.

  46. A couple of things here:

    1) Robert Griffin III cannot stay healthy and that’s a rather important thing for a QB be him starter or backup.

    2) Just like Kaep, Griffin is a system QB. Part of his failure in Washington is that HE went to ownership and got them to change the system he was successful in to another system he couldn’t run.

    3) He actually does have an attitude problem, and as recently as in Cleveland. When coaches were concerned that he takes too many hits they instructed him to slide. He made such a big deal of it that he made exaggerated slides, like the pop up slides in baseball, and then would chirp out, “See, I can slide!” They also were worried about him trying to force passes and tried to teach him it is okay to throw the ball away. Robert then would go on to throw the ball 40 yards out of bounds to exaggerate his point.

    Sideshow Bob isn’t going to be on the top of anybody’s list. Hue Jackson was his last firm believer and it was his last chance to show that he still had something left as a QB in the NFL. He stunk and got hurt….again.

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