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Justin Tucker: Not much difference between 75-yard FG and a PAT

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Ravens kicker Justin Tucker is the NFL’s all-time leader in field goal percentage and he’d like to put his name on another league record.

During an appearance on SiriusXM NFL Radio with Alex Marvez and Gil Brandt, Tucker said that he would like to kick a field goal from beyond 64 yards to break Matt Prater’s record for the longest make in NFL history. Tucker has made longer kicks than that in practice and said that going from as far as 75 yards doesn’t require a major shift in his approach.

“I’ve never attempted a 75-yarder in a game, but should the opportunity arise, not a whole lot would be different between a 75-yard attempt and a PAT,” Tucker said. “And I know a lot of people will probably be scratching their heads, [because] I think it’s drilled into every football fan’s mind that a longer kick requires lower trajectory. We make these analogies to golf, how it’s like you’re driving a ball off a tee box when you’re trying to kick a ball from farther away, but the difference in the trajectory, I think, is manageable if you’re hitting a good ball. Those first six to eight yards are the most important. That’s where a potential blocker could get his hand on the ball, six to eight yards out. I don’t think the trajectory is significant enough.”

Putting that theory to the test will likely require the Ravens to have the ball at the end of a half or game with little choice but to take a stab at letting Tucker take a shot at the record book. That’s not a particularly far-fetched scenario, so he may get his chance before the 2017 season is out.

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  1. Lemmy Aksyadis says: Jul 11, 2017 10:50 AM

    “I’ve never attempted a 75-yarder in a game, but should the opportunity arise, not a whole lot would be different between a 75-yard attempt and a PAT,”

    Of course not. It’s exactly the same. That’s why we see people attempting 75 yarders every week during the regular season.

    Just another example of how success at sports rarely translates to any other aspect of life.

  2. darthvincent says: Jul 11, 2017 10:50 AM

    “….not a whole lot would be different between a 75-yard attempt and a PAT,”

    except for that part about getting the ball high enough in the air to keep it from getting blocked every single time at the line of scrimmage

  3. canedaddy says: Jul 11, 2017 10:53 AM

    Best kicker ever, and he was a free agent.

  4. tiller21 says: Jul 11, 2017 10:56 AM

    “Mr. Tucker please report to the team facilities within the
    next 2 hours for your random drug test.”

  5. ricko1112 says: Jul 11, 2017 11:02 AM

    With that Ravens’ offense, he’ll have plenty of opportunities to attempt 75 yard FGs. They won’t get much closer to the end zone than that…

  6. redlikethepig says: Jul 11, 2017 11:06 AM

    Looks like kickers aren’t the smart ones after all.

  7. titans4evr says: Jul 11, 2017 11:08 AM

    Yeah, that’s why they make 95% of the PATs from the current line, and no one has even made a 65 yarder in the NFL’s history.

    So no difference at all. None whatsoever.

  8. bryonneufeld says: Jul 11, 2017 11:14 AM

    He just means that the kicking aspect is the same between PAT and 75 yard attempt. Obviously it’s more difficult from 75 yards.

    To his point, there are plenty of top golfers with significantly different launch angles on their tee shots. Maybe he feels like he can launch at a higher angle and still get it 75 yards.

  9. bmorepositive123 says: Jul 11, 2017 11:14 AM

    I think the takeaway here is the mindset. Most football players are the 0.000001% best of the bunch and most carry this sort of mindset. They’ve been successful and alpha throughout their life so getting an extra couple sacks, picks, tds, or fgs isn’t much to them. Everything is attainable. Unfortunately that’s why they don’t succeed so well in other areas of life, but it’s admirable.

    I wouldn’t want the kicker who doubts themselves at any distance

  10. Nofoolnodrool says: Jul 11, 2017 11:22 AM

    ricko1112 says:
    Jul 11, 2017 11:02 AM
    With that Ravens’ offense, he’ll have plenty of opportunities to attempt 75 yard FGs. They won’t get much closer to the end zone than that…

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    Oh Ricko1112!you are such a brilliant quipster……gag.

  11. patfanken says: Jul 11, 2017 11:29 AM

    Longer kicks are more possible NOT because the FG kickers are that much better, its because the NFL, in its utter lack of wisdom, has legislated out 90% of the possible ways that defenses can block a FG.

    You can’t even breath on the snapper. You can’t leap. You can’t overload. These are just a few ways the “league” made FG kicking easier, and as long as Tucker (the best kicker in the league) is with the Ravens you can believe Baltimore will continue to lead the charge for even more FG block legislation, just like when Bill Polian created NFL flag football after 2004.

  12. xxf10ydxx says: Jul 11, 2017 11:29 AM

    Here we are, I’m at my desk, and we’re talking about an idiot kicker, who got liquored up and ran his mouth off. What is the sports world coming to when we’re talking about idiot kickers?

  13. cobrala2 says: Jul 11, 2017 11:33 AM

    You forgot to mention that he sings opera.

  14. boobsmcgoo says: Jul 11, 2017 11:35 AM

    We’re starting to hear too much from a kicker.

  15. jonathankrobinson424 says: Jul 11, 2017 11:37 AM

    I could see him getting a chance. A little know rule that most folks dont know about, is when the offense FAIR CATCHES a punt within 10 secounds of the end of a half or the game , the kicker can trot on out to the field with ONLY the holder and get a FREE KICK. If he gets a chance this year, I bet Harbaugh would let him try it from 85 yards! I want the longest record to go to Justin Tucker.

  16. jamaltimore says: Jul 11, 2017 11:40 AM

    Ravens are superbowl bound

  17. factschecker says: Jul 11, 2017 11:51 AM

    This may help some comments from above…

    I’d suggest that the reason we don’t see 75 yard attempts is because if you happen to miss the other team is already at mid field. So what he is saying is probably very true but the HC’s reluctance is giving up prime field position is what prevents us from seeing it. Unless it’s at the end of a half or the end of a game.

    I just checked Youtube to confirm. Jason Elams 63 yard FG was indeed attempted with only 4 seconds left in the first half. The balls flight took up the final 4 seconds so no risk in field position.

  18. Nofoolnodrool says: Jul 11, 2017 11:55 AM

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    What? Ok they bought a whole block so the team could set together….very generous of management.

    Another dreaming Raven troll.

  19. Drunk Uncle says: Jul 11, 2017 11:57 AM

    I think what he is saying that he doesn’t use a different launch angle or velocity on extra points. No need to get cute with an extra point – just kick it at the same high velocity as any other kick, even if it is a 75-yarder.

  20. d7890 says: Jul 11, 2017 12:10 PM

    I think this shows how confident Tucker is in his ability.
    He is a absolutely fantastic kicker. Best kicker of this era.
    Also, I’m thinking that the only reason they’d try is if they are blowing a team out.

  21. bullcharger says: Jul 11, 2017 12:29 PM

    I have no doubt he could do it.

    The challenge is there are really so few game scenarios where this would be a good idea.

    I guess you could try it at the very end of the game down by 3 or less where there is a few seconds on the clock instead of a hailmary or some kind of lateral play from your own 42 (which I think would be the line of scrimmage for a 75 yard FG).

    Is there any other scenario that would make sense?

    I guess you could try it as a novelty in a blow out, but that would probably not go well from a media and fan point of view.

  22. dohczeppelin says: Jul 11, 2017 12:34 PM

    “Yeah, that’s why they make 95% of the PATs from the current line, and no one has even made a 65 yarder in the NFL’s history.

    So no difference at all. None whatsoever.”
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    I love how some of you think you know so much more about kicking and football in general that a guy who actually kicks for a living. What he is saying is that the set up and kick is basically the same, regardless of distance. A 45 degree launch angle will maximize your distance (basic physics) and that’s what you’re trying for on basically any kick anyways. Note that most PATs go through the very top of the uprights, not the middle or bottom. Make the same kick from further away, and it can still go through the uprights, just closer to the bottom of them.

    Perhaps an average PAT has a slightly more obtuse launch angle to minimize the chance of being blocked but he’s saying it isn’t much. I’ll take his word for it over any of you guys. Similar to golf, the key to success in kicking is consistency. You want to kick it basically the same every time, regardless of distance. In golf you achieve different distances primarily by changing clubs, not changing how you hit it. In kicking, the distance doesn’t matter really as long as it goes through so you basically just blast it the same way every time. The principle is the same though. You want to be as consistent as possible in your approach and swing.

    The reason this is rarely attempted in games is because of the risks involved. A 65+ yard attempt gives your opponent the ball at roughly midfield if you miss. And even though the kick itself isn’t that much different than a PAT, the margin of error is. With the goalpost closer on a PAT, the kick can be off to the left or to the right by a fair amount and still go through. A 65+ yard kick has to be pretty well on the money. Similarly, ball velocity slows as the ball travels, so on a longer kick it is more subject to wind blowing it off course. Therefore, you are usually better off punting instead of taking the risk.

    If the kick was really that different between a long FG and a PAT, you would see 50 yard FGs blocked much more frequently. I’m not a stats junkie, but I don’t believe that’s the case. Kicks are rarely blocked, regardless of distance.

  23. Lemmy Aksyadis says: Jul 11, 2017 12:34 PM

    Nofoolnodrool says:
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    Jul 11, 2017 11:40 AM
    Ravens are superbowl bound

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    What? Ok they bought a whole block so the team could set together….very generous of management.

    Another dreaming Raven troll.

    A ravens fan makes a comment on a ravens story and a guy who endlessly trolls and is not a ravens fan calls him a troll?

    Egad

  24. ncfloyd says: Jul 11, 2017 12:39 PM

    The underlying issue is that FGs are now too easy. I’m tired of seeing more FGs than Touchdowns each week. A team reaching the 30 has a only 47yd attempt, basically an 80% chance at 3 points just for reaching the 30. Time to narrow or raise the goalposts, the 2pt conversion hasn’t given teams more reason to risk continuing drives on 4th down as argued by Tags way back.

  25. bullcharger says: Jul 11, 2017 12:41 PM

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    jonathankrobinson424 says:
    Jul 11, 2017 11:37 AM
    I could see him getting a chance. A little know rule that most folks dont know about, is when the offense FAIR CATCHES a punt within 10 secounds of the end of a half or the game , the kicker can trot on out to the field with ONLY the holder and get a FREE KICK. If he gets a chance this year, I bet Harbaugh would let him try it from 85 yards! I want the longest record to go to Justin Tucker.

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    I think it’s any fair catch and the whole team is able to go out. The kicker gets 10 yards of space from the defense. I guess that takes away the block, but you would still only use that in place of a hailmary at the end of a game.

  26. camcameronsucks says: Jul 11, 2017 12:50 PM

    The Ravens have a scholarly mathematician on the team in John Urschel. Why not have him run the numbers and figure out the probability?

  27. flaccodelic says: Jul 11, 2017 12:53 PM

    Nofoolnodrool says:
    Jul 11, 2017 11:55 AM
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    jamaltimore says:
    Jul 11, 2017 11:40 AM
    Ravens are superbowl bound

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    What? Ok they bought a whole block so the team could set together….very generous of management.

    Another dreaming Raven troll.

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    No, the trolls are the ones who come post negativity on stories about other teams. So, you.

  28. rogcar2 says: Jul 11, 2017 12:56 PM

    Off-season fever… CATCH IT!!

  29. MichaelEdits says: Jul 11, 2017 1:42 PM

    One way that a 75-yard FG resembles a PAT is that I couldn’t make either one. Just kicking the ball in the right direction would be a victory.

  30. jgedgar70 says: Jul 11, 2017 2:25 PM

    Every time this guy talks, I get flashbacks to that looney bird that used to punt for Minnesota or Todd Sauerbrun.

  31. JameisWillTakeUsToThePromiseLand says: Jul 11, 2017 2:47 PM

    I wonder if Roberto Aguyao feels the same way….

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