Sean Lee reacts to Barry Church’s declaration that Jaguars have more talent

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Barry Church might hear from a former teammate (or more) to debate who has more talent.

Church, who left the Cowboys after seven seasons to sign with the Jaguars, said Friday that his new team has “a lot more talent” than Dallas does. Cowboys linebacker Sean Lee was asked about Church’s comments Saturday.

They have more talent? Well, that’s because he’s in Jacksonville right now,” Lee said, via Brandon George of the Dallas Morning News. “Of course he’s going to say that. I might have to call him.”

Church was a defensive captain with the Cowboys last season. Church was second to Lee in tackles last season with 109, starting 12 games. Church, though, left in the offseason for the Jaguars’ four-year, $26 million deal.

The Cowboys, who couldn’t afford to keep Church, also lost Church’s backup, J.J. Wilcox. Jeff Heath is expected to start opposite Byron Jones this season.

“Barry and I came in together,” Lee said. “We’re both from Pittsburgh. I’m very close to him. A guy like Byron and Jeff Heath, they’re going to have to step up because Barry was an incredible player for us. He was a leader for us, a playmaker.”

25 responses to “Sean Lee reacts to Barry Church’s declaration that Jaguars have more talent

  1. The Cowboys couldn’t afford him?? Come on, let’s get real. The Cowboys could of kept him if they really wanted to. The problem was, the secondary was not very good, wasn’t getting the job done, and needed a complete overhaul. Let’s tell it like it is.

  2. Barry Church might be right. If you put Dak Prescott on Jacksonville, they’re a 14-2 team. If you put Blake Bortles on Dallas, they’re a 5-11 team. That’s the difference right there. Jacksonville does have more big time talent on defense. If you put Tom Brady on Cleveland, they’re a 13-3 team.

  3. Dallas easily could have afforded Church. It didn’t want to overpay him the way Jax did, and it’s as simple as that.

  4. Sean Lee has great character, shows with his comments towards Church. Despite church’s obvious shot at the Cowboys, Lee shows his class and complements him. For the record, it is laughable that Church would even make these comments, he and the rest of that putrid secondary was jettisoned because of their inability to stop a nose bleed in critical times of games.

  5. The Jaguars do have more talent on the defensive side of the ball than Dallas. Can anybody really argue that they don’t?

  6. Reading these comments shows how delusional most Cowboys fans are. PFF graded the Cowboys secondary collectively as the best unit in the league in 2016.

    “One of the biggest reasons for the Cowboys’ success this season has been the turnaround of the secondary. After having just one defensive back with an above-average coverage grade last season, all eight players with at least 100 snaps in 2016 earned average or above-average overall and coverage grades. Although they lack an elite-caliber player, this group has played consistently well as a unit. Byron Jones, Barry Church, Morris Claiborne, and J.J. Wilcox have all earned career-high overall and coverage grades this season, while rookie Anthony Brown has played well down the stretch in Claiborne’s absence.”

    What isn’t good for Cowboys fans is three of the players mentioned in that ranking were allowed to walk in free agency.

  7. Church is a clown. Very overrated like the other guys they got rid of. Glad they cleaned house of those average at best players. I would rather see one of our rookies make a mistake while they are learning than the constant coverage mistakes that these veterans consistently made!

  8. bkostela says:
    Jul 29, 2017 5:36 PM
    Reading these comments shows how delusional most Cowboys fans are. PFF graded the Cowboys secondary collectively as the best unit in the league in 2016.

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    They did at the end of the season, possibly because they were good in the redzone but still completely disagree with that ranking as PFF also counted their run defense in their favor because secondary does assist in runs. From PFF, “Once again comes the reminder that a team’s secondary still has a role in run defense—these are not solely coverage rankings, and a team’s overall performance in pass defense also includes the front-seven in coverage.”

    Anyways fact still is that the Cowboys were still ranked 26th in yards per game. Middle of the pack in passing TDs allowed. 28th in first downs. 26th in total yards allowed. Middle of the pack in sacks. BUT were 5th in total points and points per game. The game gets tight in the redzone so running is more prevalent, and they were the #1 run defense so credit is given where credit is due but with that being said, teams had ZERO problem throwing on them and sustaining drives again them.

  9. @ robigd says:

    “The Jaguars do have more talent on the defensive side of the ball than Dallas. Can anybody really argue that they don’t?”

    ABSOLUTELY someone/anyone can argue the Jags DON’T have more talent. Besides, saying a team has more “talent” is subjective. What matters is the results on the field. Too many talented players have failed because they can’t produce when it counts. Talent is a must as part of the whole package, but it isn’t the end-all be-all by any means.

    Firstly, since the Cowboys made the playoffs and the Jags did not, so that is one very strong argument against your opinion. But let’s look at the stats:

    Defensive PPG – Dallas 19.1 Jax 25
    Rushing YPG – Dallas 83.5 (#1 in the league) Jax 106.4
    Total Defensive points allowed – Dallas 306 Jax 400
    Sacks – Dallas 36 Jax 33
    Interceptions – Dallas 9 Jax 7

    So, there are 5 reasons right there in the stats plus the
    13-3 record and making the playoffs for the Cowboys.

    Again, results speak for themselves, but I digress…….

  10. charliecharger says:

    If you put Dak Prescott on Jacksonville, they’re a 14-2 team. If you put Blake Bortles on Dallas, they’re a 5-11 team.
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    But everyone claims the only reason Dak had the season he had was because of his o-line. Jacksonville’s line is toward the bottom of the rankings.

  11. @ bkostela says:

    “What isn’t good for Cowboys fans is three of the players mentioned in that ranking were allowed to walk in free agency.”

    Really? Typical hater post focusing on the glass half-empty.

    What IS good for the Cowboy fans is the fact that Byron Jones will no longer be used as a Jack of all trades so he can really lock down the FS role, and may switch in certain packages. Not to mention, Marinelli is still around to keep that continuity as the D-Coordinator.

    Church will be replaced by Heath, who is younger and faster, and could have a breakout year with his experience. I personally wanted Dallas to keep Church, but not for the hefty price the Jags paid him as a soon-to-be 30 yr old.

    Claiborne was the second string CB. He played well when “on the field” the last couple of years, but the problem is he started only 22 out of a potential 48 games the past 3 years, and had 2 interceptions over those 3 seasons. A rookie could EASILY surpass Claiborne’s total interceptions the past 3 years in one season, and a rookie very likely be a lot more available than Claiborne was. Claiborne was a bust as the 6th overall pick, plain and simple.

    Wilcox started 17 out of 32 games the last two seasons. He had a total of 2 interceptions in those games. Like Claiborne, a rookie could easily come in and match 2 picks for 2 seasons, and start in more games than 17 games in 2 seasons.

    Then there is the fact that Anthony Brown will be the starting CB opposite Carroll. Brown has a year under his belt, and was one of the best DBs the last several games of the season in 2016.

    Carr and Jones was the starting CB duo last year. This year it will likely be Brown and Carroll, and the Cowboys drafted very well in the secondary.

    So, Church was allowed to walk because Dallas knew he would be overpaid in FA. He is a solid player, but not at $26 mil/$12 mil guaranteed. Wilcox was a liability, and so was Claiborne. Both were in the trainer’s room more often than not.

    So, tell me, with me being a long-time Cowboy fan, what about the above is “delusional”? Please, enlighten me.

  12. Barry Church might be right. If you put Dak Prescott on Jacksonville, they’re a 14-2 team. If you put Blake Bortles on Dallas, they’re a 5-11 team. That’s the difference right there. Jacksonville does have more big time talent on defense. If you put Tom Brady on Cleveland, they’re a 13-3 team.

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    Probably one of the worst “takes” I have ever read on this site, and that says a lot.

  13. @jsrdc

    You’re right, I’m pointing out the negatives. The coments above me suggested the Cowboys secondary was terrible. I was pointing out that might not be the case. Your comment was backed up with evidence and it is obvious that you actually watch the games.

    My take on the entire Dallas Cowboys secondary (from a Giants fan):

    Mo Claiborne had by far the best season of his career. It’s easy to remember trading all the way up to take him only to have him injured most of his tenure with the club. I get that. But they replaced him with Nolan Carroll, who is average at best. A downgrade unless one of your rookies steps up and plays great.

    The other “starting” CB is Brown, who looked good in his limited time last season. Scandrick is also a very good slot CB. No change from last season. Both solid players.

    Church was solid, but wanted a big payday so Dallas let him walk. While Wilcox was a liability in coverage, he played with a physicality that made opponents have to account for him over the middle. Heath stepping in and playing better than both is wishful thinking. I would expect a downgrade from last season at SS.

    Jones has shown flashes of his playmaking ability at FS, although he allowed the most TDs in coverage of any player in the NFL last season. He is the strength of your secondary. No change from last season, although if anyone were primed for a breakout season, it would be him.

    Verdict: the group will struggle early and is in worse shape this season than last.

  14. The test if the Jaguars have more talent….last year, how many Jaguars made the Pro Bowl and name 1 current Jaguar that is Hall of Fame worthy ? You can’t, sorry their not that talent. Tyron Smith, Zack Martin, Travis Frederick, Dak Prescott, Ezekiel Elliot, Sean Lee…were all pro bowl selections…and does anyone doubt Jason Witten will make it to the Hall ? Didn’t think so.

  15. vancouversportsbro says:
    Jul 29, 2017 7:04 PM
    Barry Church might be right. If you put Dak Prescott on Jacksonville, they’re a 14-2 team. If you put Blake Bortles on Dallas, they’re a 5-11 team. That’s the difference right there. Jacksonville does have more big time talent on defense. If you put Tom Brady on Cleveland, they’re a 13-3 team.

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    Probably one of the worst “takes” I have ever read on this site, and that says a lot.
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    Guess you don’t read many of your own then. Sure the take is over the top with hyperbole but the core message isn’t that far off.

  16. It stands to reason that they have more talent given that in the last five drafts, they’ve picked 5th, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, and 5th. And before that, they consistently picked in the top 10.

    But the Cowboys will be the first to tell you talent doesn’t mean anything. Wins do.

  17. I’m a Redskin’s fan and despise the Cowboys, but #50 is a hell of a player and despite all the conjecture around Church’s innocent comment; which wasn’t meant as a shot at Dallas at all; Lee’s statement shows just that. He put it in perspective and out of the realm of Church meaning anything negative towards the Cowboys. I hate the team, but there are classy players like Lee whom I have no choice but to respect because I love the NFL.

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