Where does Matthew Stafford rank among the NFL’s top quarterbacks?

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Quarterback Matthew Stafford currently has the Lions over a contractual barrel. Whether he receives another huge contract or goes year-to-year and makes more than $100 million from 2018 through 2020 obscures the question of how good he really is, in comparison to other quarterbacks.

Appearing on Monday’s PFT Live, former NFL quarterback Chris Simms put Stafford at No. 3 in the league behind Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady.

The notion of Stafford being that good in relation to the other great quarterbacks seems surprising at first blush. But if he’s not No. 3, who is? Drew Brees, arguably. Maybe Ben Roethlisberger. Matt Ryan possibly. Cam Newton or Russell Wilson? Perhaps. Andrew Luck isn’t healthy, and who knows when he will be.

It’s really not crazy to put Stafford in that category. Yes, he hasn’t won a playoff game. But he’s taken a chronically based Lions team to the postseason three times since 2011, and whether a team thrives isn’t solely determined by quarterback play.

Weigh in below with your thoughts. Ultimately, it’s not going to matter to his next contract, because the Lions won’t be letting him walk until they can find someone as good or better. And whoever is as good or better than Stafford simply isn’t and won’t be available.

46 responses to “Where does Matthew Stafford rank among the NFL’s top quarterbacks?

  1. Top 5 Lions QBs all time:

    1. Mathew Stafford
    2. Scott Mitchell
    3. Joey Harrington
    4. Bobby Layne
    5. Eric Hipple

  2. 1 a &b) Rodgers/Brady (flip a coin)
    (small drop)
    3) Brees
    (drop of a few notches)
    4 a &b)Ryan/Roethlisberger (reuse coin)
    (small drop)
    6) Wilson
    7) Stafford
    Impossible to credibly go on from this point due to not enough seasons to fairly evaluate up and comers Carr, Mariota, Winston and Prescott against established 2nd tier QB’s.

  3. If that ridiculous stat is true (4 wins against teams with a winning record while being in the league for 9 years), then he isnt even a top 15 QB.

  4. All you need to know is he is in the top 20. Ask teams with the 10 worst how much he is worth. After the top 2-5 you are picking nits as to who is 4-20 because they all have good and bad traits. Once you get towards the bottom boy does it stink. So you must pay him and hope he has an above average season once in 5 years like Flacco and Ryan and…you get to the Big game.

  5. He has been surrounded by the least of talent compared to what the others had coaching and players wise, Brees and Ben maybe could have done what he has in Detroit…. He is still on upside of bell curve no worse than 5

  6. Talk to me about Stafford being overrated when he doesn’t have the leagues worst rushing attack, a defense starved of turnovers and sacks that also allowed the highest completion % in league history.

    We can only hope that second year GM Bob Quin is the man who finally gets how to build a team.

  7. Ask yourself this…..you have one remaining possession to win a SB. Who do you want at QB? Now I would pick Brady and we saw why in last SBs OT but I can see an argument for Rodgers. Is Stafford really the next guy in line? Really? I would personally choose Russell Wilson or Drew Brees.

  8. He has NO touch, no accuracy, and when dudes break wide open for deep balls, he throws them 140 MPH 12 feet over their heads. When they break open on deep outs, he throws 140 MPH 12 feet over their head. When they break open on short crosses, he throws 140 MPH 12 feet over their head.

  9. As a Bear fan………give Selfish Stafford $50M per year with a $10M increase each year on a 10 year contract. That way the Lions will not have any cap space to surround him with any good players.

  10. Stafford is definitely a top 10 QB. That’s obvious. I don’t care about his winning percentage against teams with winning records. The Lions don’t have enough talent to beat those teams. They never do. The Lions went 9-7 with Stafford, smoke, and mirrors.

  11. in 2011 Stafford set an NFL record for most comebacks by 14+ points with 4.
    Last year he set a league record with 8 come from behind wins in a season, on a team with the dead last ranked rushing game, and a defense ranked worse than 25th in turnovers and sacks (the LB’s had o sacks, 0 int’s and o FF’s as a whole), as well as allowing the highest completion % in a season in league history.

    Don’t talk to me about who you’d want in the final two minutes of a game while behind.

  12. You can’t judge Stafford on playoff performance.
    It’s a silly, shallow argument to judge any individual within a team sport.
    Anyone who doesn’t realize that Staff is a top 10 QB in the NFL simply doesn’t understand football.

  13. A top ten if you ignore his inability to win any playoff games.

    He isn’t perfect.

    If you base things on reality, he is above 16th. Maybe at number 14 or number 15.

  14. duffelbagsports says:
    Jul 31, 2017 7:50 PM
    Behind Aaron Roger and Tom Brady. How many championships does Brady have to win before he’s not behind Rogers?

    *********************************
    Prior to the last super bowl, Terry Bradshaw was tied with Brady and Montana for the most super wins at 4. If you can prove to me that you were calling Bradshaw the greatest QB of all time, I’ll put Brady ahead of Rodgers. Show me something you wrote that has Bradshaw rated as the best ever. If you can’t produce the documents, you’re admitting that there’s more to the story than just the amount of super bowls you won. I’m not saying Brady’s not the best. I’m just saying the number of super bowl wins has a lot to do with the team you’re on.

  15. You could argue Prescott and Wentz being better…Winston too….He is more in the Andy Dalton Ryan Tannahill class then the Brees Big Ben class…and i would put all above over Stafford.

  16. patrick9584 says:
    Jul 31, 2017 8:54 PM
    Rodgers/Brady

    Wilson/Brees

    Carr/Mariota

    Ben/Eli

    Newton/Cousins

    Flacco/Stafford/Winston

    He’s barely top 12

    Let me fix that for you
    Rodgers/Brady
    Brees/Roethlisburger
    Eli
    Newton
    Rivers
    Carr
    Cousins
    Flacco
    Safford

    Mariota and Winston are up and coming but want to see what happens this year.

  17. Prior to the last super bowl, Terry Bradshaw was tied with Brady and Montana for the most super wins at 4. If you can prove to me that you were calling Bradshaw the greatest QB of all time, I’ll put Brady ahead of Rodgers. Show me something you wrote that has Bradshaw rated as the best ever. If you can’t produce the documents, you’re admitting that there’s more to the story than just the amount of super bowls you won. I’m not saying Brady’s not the best. I’m just saying the number of super bowl wins has a lot to do with the team you’re on.
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    Rogers at 33 will probably play in 5 more Pro Bowls. Brady at 40 will probably play in 5 more Super Bowls. But it’s the SYSTEM. Right!

  18. Not…Even…Close!
    Stanford is a good quarterback but let’s be real, he’s nowhere near the top 3. I’d put the list
    1)Aaron Rodgers
    2)Tom Brady it pains me as a Steeler/Raider fan
    3)Drew Brees
    4)Ben Rothlisberger last year I would’ve put him at 3 but a new year brings a demotion
    5)Cam Newton
    6)Derek Carr
    7)Phillip Rivers
    8)if healthy tie Jamis Winston/Marcus Mariota
    9)Dak Prescott
    10)Matt Stafford

  19. Not…Even…Close!
    Stanford is a good quarterback but let’s be real, he’s nowhere near the top 3. I’d put the list
    1)Aaron Rodgers
    2)Tom Brady it pains me as a Steeler/Raider fan
    3)Drew Brees
    4)Ben Rothlisberger last year I would’ve put him at 3 but a new year brings a demotion
    5)Cam Newton
    6)Russell Wilson
    7)Matt Ryan
    8)Derek Carr
    9)Dak Prescott
    10)Matt Stafford

  20. 1. Brady
    2. Rodgers
    3. Matt Ryan
    4. Stafford
    5. Roethlisberger (If Healthy)
    5b. Russell Wilson
    7. Derek Carr
    7. Drew Brees
    7. Andy Luck
    10. Joe Flaaco (If he plays up to potential)
    11. Kirk Cousins
    12. Cam Newton (Stay Healthy)
    13. Marcus Mariota
    14. Sam Bradford
    15. Eli Manning
    16. Dak Prescott
    17. Jameis Winston
    18. Carson Palmer

  21. 1phillyphan says:
    Jul 31, 2017 9:50 PM
    You could argue Prescott and Wentz being better…Winston too….He is more in the Andy Dalton Ryan Tannahill class then the Brees Big Ben class…and i would put all above over Stafford.
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    What the *ell are you thinking? Prescott had the best O-line and rushing attack in the league with some very good weapons. We’ll see where he goes from there, especially since his line lost two starters and EE looks like trouble (suspended soon). Stafford’s been sacked 130+ times in the last 3 seasons, nor have they ranked higher than 28th(!!!) rushing in that time frame.

    Wentz had an up and down rookie season. We’ll see how he develops, but putting him ahead right now is asinine.

    Dalton and Tannehil both lack good arms. Both, IMO, are mediocre starters, so no, they aren’t even close to Stafford. Both of their teams would trade those guys for Stafford in a heartbeat.

    As far as Brady and Roethlisberger and Wilson go (and several others), they’ve played on teams that have had the #1 ranked defense (Hawks D talked about as best all-time), a top running game, etc. The Lions never really improved their roster dramatically following the 2008 0-16 debacle. They haven’t had a 1000 yard rusher during Staffords era. Their defense generally has stunk, except one year, and that year they played worse at the end of the season.

    And some like to say they surrounded him with weapons, which isn’t the truth. Truth is, they TRIED surrounding him with weapons, what with busts like RB Jahvid Best (1st round), RB Michel Leshoure (2nd), WR Titus Young (2nd) and a third round WR Ryan Broyles. So who do you think was playing with Stafford then? That’s right, backups, and undrafted guys, even guys off the street midseason. And because they focused on offense with these high picks, the D suffered as well.

    If you are not an honest and observant Lions fan, you wouldn’t realize that Stafford has played on bad teams-at best, mediocre. But certainly, nothing resembling a contender.

  22. tonyzendejas says:
    Jul 31, 2017 8:38 PM
    He has NO touch, no accuracy, and when dudes break wide open for deep balls, he throws them 140 MPH 12 feet over their heads. When they break open on deep outs, he throws 140 MPH 12 feet over their head. When they break open on short crosses, he throws 140 MPH 12 feet over their head.

    ***********
    Sounds like life is 140 MPH 12 feet over your head.

  23. Stafford has played behind a good Oline twice in his 9 years and a running game that ranked in the top half of the league only once. In those years they went to the playoffs.

    For a QB to be effective OLine and Run game are crucial to their success. Very much dependent on those two areas

    IMO I wouldn’t want anyone else at QB on my team.

    1. Brady
    2. Rogers
    3. Bree’s
    4. Ryan, Eli, Ben, Rivers, Cam, Wilson, Stafford are all in the same grouping.

    Ask any GM or coach on a QB needy team and they would pick Stafford, Newton and Ryan all day long behind Brady and Rogers. All due to 1. talent, 2. Age, 3. clean off the field

    Eli, Age and off field crap
    Ben, Age and rumblings of retirement
    Rivers, Age
    Wilson, not prototypical

  24. Jameis Winston? We’ll see how he develops, but in Matt Staffords 3rd season he threw 41 TD’s (42 actually, one wasn’t given credit for a TD but they had no challenges left), 17 int’s, 5000 yards, with a 63.5%. He was snubbed for the pro-bowl. That year he had something like 6 come from behind wins and 4 of them were by 14 points or more.

  25. On November 20, 2011, Stafford threw for 335 yards and 5 TDs as the Lions defeated the Carolina Panthers in another comeback, 49–35, after trailing 24–7 in the second quarter. Stafford became the first QB since at least 1950 to win back to back games after trailing by at least 20 points, the first to win three games in a season after trailing by at least 17 points, and the first to win four games in a season after trailing by at least 13 points according to STATS, LLC.

  26. On November 20, 2011, Stafford threw for 335 yards and 5 TDs as the Lions defeated the Carolina Panthers in another comeback, 49–35, after trailing 24–7 in the second quarter. Stafford became the first QB since at least 1950 to win back to back games after trailing by at least 20 points, the first to win three games in a season after trailing by at least 17 points, and the first to win four games in a season after trailing by at least 13 points according to STATS, LLC.

    …and then they were destroyed in the first round of the playoffs. Point?

  27. 1.Brady
    2.Rodgers
    3. Brees
    4. Ryan
    5. Big Ben

    Stafford, Eli, Carr, Wilson, Rivers are probably the next 5, but not sure what order. Cam?

    Stafford is top 10, for sure.

  28. tonyzendejas says:
    Aug 1, 2017 9:21 AM
    On November 20, 2011, Stafford threw for 335 yards and 5 TDs as the Lions defeated the Carolina Panthers in another comeback, 49–35, after trailing 24–7 in the second quarter. Stafford became the first QB since at least 1950 to win back to back games after trailing by at least 20 points, the first to win three games in a season after trailing by at least 17 points, and the first to win four games in a season after trailing by at least 13 points according to STATS, LLC.

    …and then they were destroyed in the first round of the playoffs. Point?
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    They were on the road against the Saints and their D allowed something like 45 points (45-28 was the final score I think).
    Also, the Lions were the victims of another bad call. Leading 13-7 in the 2nd quarter, the D forced a fumble and returned it for a long TD, giving them a 20-7 lead. unfortunately, the refs got together and said they blew it dead, and instead the Lions took over at their own 25 and failed to score.

  29. He’s had the offense to win playoff games, but he hasn’t done it. They’re constantly playing from behind and not scoring enough points, and a lot of that is on him. He’s improved the last couple years, but he’s not elite.

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