Goodell doesn’t seem interested in more open-air, cold-weather Super Bowls

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The “ultimate reality show” isn’t willing to repeatedly tempt fate.

Three years ago, the NFL rolled the dice on a open-air, cold-weather Super Bowl, playing the game in New Jersey and narrowly avoiding a game-day winter storm. Plenty of other eastern cities aspiring to do the same, but Commissioner Roger Goodell seems skeptical about another championship game in a place where ice and/or snow could be a factor for the fans who plunk down thousands for the right to freeze their fannies off.

We want the game to be played in perfect conditions,” Goodell said at a recent fan forum in Baltimore, via the Baltimore Sun. “Do you want the elements to impact it? I personally love football in the elements. I think that’s what makes it so special. So I love that part of it, but I also understand the issue of wanting to put on an event where we probably have 150 to 200,000 people. It’s really tough to do, and it put a lot of stress on smaller communities. If you guys want to make a bid, I’m sure the ownership is going to take a good, hard look at it.”

There’s a balance the league is hoping to strike. On one hand, the NFL wants those who attend the Super Bowl to have a great experience. On the other hand, the NFL wants as many cities as possible to believe they have a realistic shot to host the game.

The more bids the league receives, the more pressure gets placed on the cities that actually are within the range of those that have a snowball’s chance in a cold-weather city with a domed stadium. The more money the NFL makes.

41 responses to “Goodell doesn’t seem interested in more open-air, cold-weather Super Bowls

  1. Why doesn’t he just cut to the chase and tell Kraft he gets no SuperBowl….That is exactly what he is saying.

  2. ” I personally love football in the elements. I think that’s what makes it so special”… but we will damn straight ELIMINATE that element from our premier game!!! What a tool

  3. I Wish the NFL did the Super Bowl like major league baseball. The SB would be at the stadium for one of the Super Bowl participants. That would be Really Cool. Better than the way it is now.

  4. rideforjesus says:
    Aug 1, 2017 11:57 AM

    as long as GODdell is in charge… New England will never see a super bowl
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    Seems to me they see them all of the time.

    Oh, do you mean hosting one? Heaven forbid they would give a team yet another excuse for losing to the Patriots.

  5. Half of the comments so far about Pats getting screwed over. Shocking.

    News flash: plenty of other cold weather cities have expressed interest in this. This isn’t (yet another) conspiracy about the Pats/Kraft getting screwed by “the man.” Take off the blinders, homers.

  6. Probably because he was talking to the Ravens fan base who want nothing to do with Kraft
    brwmstr says:
    Aug 1, 2017 11:48 AM
    Why doesn’t he just cut to the chase and tell Kraft he gets no SuperBowl….That is exactly what he is saying.

  7. Didn’t the last outdoor Super Bowl happen in 50 degree weather in the middle of winter? The elements are what make the game more fun to watch I love watching games in the rain and snow.

  8. brwmstr says:
    Aug 1, 2017 11:48 AM

    Why doesn’t he just cut to the chase and tell Kraft he gets no SuperBowl….That is exactly what he is saying.
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    Kraft has never made an official request to host a Super Bowl. Also, Foxborough would be a horrible place for a Super Bowl. 90% of fans would need to be bused in from Providence, RI of Boston.

  9. News flash: plenty of other cold weather cities have expressed interest in this. This isn’t (yet another) conspiracy about the Pats/Kraft getting screwed by “the man.” Take off the blinders, homers.
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    Who cares? Name one of those cities that is as relevant to professional football as the Patriots are. NY got their chance. Now the best franchise in football should have theirs if they so choose.

  10. A bunch of teams get eliminated by Goodell’s statement. It would be every team in the Northeast from Washington and Baltimore, to Philadelphia, the NY/NJ, to New England. After that, eliminations west to Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Chicago, Green Bay, Kansas City, and Denver. It’s not a big deal, but those franchises should not be losing home games to London/Mexico City either.

    We could have our first host team play a Super Bowl home game in February of 2019. I think it would be rough to play a road game in the Super Bowl, especially in a dome, but that could be interesting.

  11. “I Wish the NFL did the Super Bowl like major league baseball. The SB would be at the stadium for one of the Super Bowl participants.”

    That works with MLB because both teams get games on their home field. Giving home field advantage to a team in the SB is not a valid approach.

  12. “Gillette Stadium Capacity – 66829

    Superbowl Minimum Seating Capacity – 70000”

    Believe that number for Gillette does not include private boxes or club seats, which push the number over 70k

  13. Here’s a thought:

    There are so many “Christians” in the NFL; Team admins, players, support,medical, and coaching staffs, fans, media, etc., etc. We’re all led to believe that god is on the NFL’s side, and that He/She/It actually gives a rat’s ass about who wins football games.

    Why not just go ahead and book those outdoor SB dates and count on prayer to make sure the weather cooperates?

  14. Gillette Stadium Capacity – 66829

    Superbowl Minimum Seating Capacity – 70000

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    I cannot believe thats actually a rule, maybe a facot, but not a rule.

    Minnesotas new stadium (which is hosting a SB BTW) only holds 66,655. Pheonix (home to 2 SBs) only seats 63,400. Hard rock (host to 5 SBs) seats 64000. Raymond James Stadium (hosting a another SB soon) seats 65,890.

    The common thread here is that these stadiums can only hit 70,000 through use of standing room only seating and removable metal bleachers

    The saddest part about all of this is that cold weather cities are some of the best football cities with some of the largest stadiums. Why not a Green Bay SB (81,500) or Denver (76,100) for fans and true football weather? Or if you want at least the chance of a decent day, come back to Baltimore (71,000), Buffalo (71,600)

  15. I love the idea of a SB in NE but it really would be a huge advantage if NE or another cold weather team played a warm weather team outside in February. Blizzard conditions not good for TV. Far too many variables for a championship game. I remember a Chicago playoff game where it was so foggy you couldn’t follow the ball or read jersey numbers. Lousy way to watch a playoff game.

  16. tootitan says:
    Aug 1, 2017 1:06 PM
    Here’s a thought:

    There are so many “Christians” in the NFL; Team admins, players, support,medical, and coaching staffs, fans, media, etc., etc. We’re all led to believe that god is on the NFL’s side, and that He/She/It actually gives a rat’s ass about who wins football games.

    Why not just go ahead and book those outdoor SB dates and count on prayer to make sure the weather cooperates?


    Here’s another idea, how about we leave out the parts where you use this forum to espouse your distaste for religion.

  17. The Commish doesn’t want the elements coming into play and have “perfect conditions” for the SB? OK, so let’s extend that to the Conference Championships.

    Proposal: NFC Championship Game is permanently assigned to the SuperDome; AFC Championship Game is assigned to either the Lucas Oil Stadium or Reliant/NRG/(name of the month) Stadium and the Super Bowl can alternate between Arizona and Las Vegas.

  18. Open air cold weather Super Bowls is just a dumb idea from a logistics perspective. You could actually get enough snow that you can’t even play the game and no one can go to the stadium. That would be a disaster.

    I don’t think it makes sense. Put it in places where the airport doesn’t close.

    I can’t believe I agree with Goodell.

  19. kcflake says:
    Aug 1, 2017 12:03 PM
    I Wish the NFL did the Super Bowl like major league baseball. The SB would be at the stadium for one of the Super Bowl participants. That would be Really Cool. Better than the way it is now.

    Problem is all the lead-up it takes to put on the SB. That’s a year ahead of the game minimum. I watched Houston host the 2004 and last SB and it’s downright amazing how much has to go into it so far in advance. Great idea.. just not feasible.

  20. harrisonhits2 says:
    Aug 1, 2017 1:01 PM
    “I Wish the NFL did the Super Bowl like major league baseball. The SB would be at the stadium for one of the Super Bowl participants.”

    That works with MLB because both teams get games on their home field. Giving home field advantage to a team in the SB is not a valid approach.

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    The reason it would never happen is the Super Bowl is the greatest spectacle in North America. Lots of planning to be done to run the Super Bowl and for fans to get there. You can’t find out the location 2 weeks prior to the game.

    If you ran it like typical playoffs you certainly could give the team with the best regular season record the home field following the same tie break rules. However, the outcome would basically be another playoff game and not a Super Bowl.

  21. Kraft has never made an official request to host a Super Bowl. Also, Foxborough would be a horrible place for a Super Bowl. 90% of fans would need to be bused in from Providence, RI of Boston.
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    There would be more hotels available, closer to Gillette, than places like Jacksonville of Houston that bus people in from further distances than Providence and Boston

  22. jeffreyshulenburg says:
    Aug 1, 2017 1:08 PM

    Gillette Stadium Capacity – 66829

    Superbowl Minimum Seating Capacity – 70000
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    I cannot believe thats actually a rule, maybe a facot, but not a rule.
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    Well, it was a rule 20 years ago. The reason the Panthers built their stadium with 72,000 seats is because the city was told the stadium had to have 70,000 seats to host a Super Bowl. Hosting was impossible back then due to lack of sufficient hotel rooms. We have plenty of hotel rooms now, but I doubt we ever get to host because the weather in January and February can vary widely. This year, it was 8 degrees the first weekend in January and highs were in the 70s for almost the entire month of February.

    I like football in the elements too; I’ve been to a couple of Panthers games when it rained, and it was a blast. But since the only people who actually get to sit in the seats at a Super Bowl are corporate suits that hire people to chew their food for them, they wouldn’t stand for a game played in a snowstorm.

  23. Goodell needs to learn to tough it up and understand most of the NFL’s major markets are in cold weather locations and we have no intention of continuing to let him screw us out of what we the fans demand.

    Time to get a commissioner who is not a snowflake afraid of winter.

  24. who cares what the 70-80K people in attendance feel like- the NFL doesn’t make money selling SB tickets, they make money with TV contracts so do the only fair thing and rotate the SB among all cities equally

  25. blessedunliketherest says:
    Aug 1, 2017 12:49 PM
    News flash: plenty of other cold weather cities have expressed interest in this. This isn’t (yet another) conspiracy about the Pats/Kraft getting screwed by “the man.” Take off the blinders, homers.
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    Who cares? Name one of those cities that is as relevant to professional football as the Patriots are. NY got their chance. Now the best franchise in football should have theirs if they so choose.

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    Wrong. Having a competitive team in any given year has never been a major consideration in deciding where the host city should be. One obvious reason — the location of the SB is chosen up to 5 years in advance of the actual game. A team that’s competitive in one season may or may not be competitive 5 years later. Using whoever is most competitive in any given year to determine where a game will be played 3-5 years later would make absolutely no sense.

  26. tiedyeguy says:
    Aug 1, 2017 2:51 PM

    Goodell needs to learn to tough it up and understand most of the NFL’s major markets are in cold weather locations and we have no intention of continuing to let him screw us out of what we the fans demand.

    Time to get a commissioner who is not a snowflake afraid of winter.
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    The Super Bowl is too big of a spectacle to take a chance on bad weather.

    Besides, playing at a cold weather site is just going to cause folks to rehash the psigate fraud, and there is no way the league office wants to go back down that road.

  27. Googled oldest franchises in NFL and came up with following starting with the oldest:
    1 Cardinals (now in AZ so no issue)
    2 Bears
    3 GB
    4 NY Giants
    5 Detroit (not open air I believe)
    6 Washington
    7 Pitt – tie
    7 Philly – tie
    9 Cleveland – Rams
    10 Cleveland – Browns/Ravens

    So leaving out the Cardinals, Rams and the Lions seven of the ten founding franchises in the NFL are not eligible to host the SB. That just seems wrong to me.

  28. I think we (metro NY area) had a huge storm that Monday night into Tuesday. I knew it would be the end of cold weather SB’s.

    BUT

    What about the ice storm in Dallas? Warm-ish weather cities are woefully unprepared when the temps hit 32 and I’ve seen it in January Tampa a few times in the 70’s.

    So you can have a SB in Tennessee, Dallas, Charlotte, Jacksonville, Atlanta or Tampa and get wiped out by ice.

    The odds are a lot slimmer but it can still happen. Only safe places are Southern California, Arizona and Miami.

  29. Don’t forget….Roger Goodell has the results of the PSI study which was conducted during the 2015 NFL season.

    That PSI information will show that footballs always drop PSI when its cold. Even more if the footballs also get wet.

    It’s a shame that Roger Goodell is displaying the complete opposite of both integrity and transparency by keeping that PSI information secret.

  30. the SB is not about the fans but about the partners and sponsors of the NFL. A cold-weather SB reduces the opportunity to use things like golf to enhance and enlarge the partnerships. The football is secondary

  31. Stupidity. Every game in the NFL is subject to the elements. Look at the Eagles/Lions game 2 years ago. It completely decided the game, because Stafford couldn’t get the ball out to Megatron. Megatron had guys beat by 10 yards, but the snow was so heavy that the ball fell way short.

    I understand you want it to be an event…but if youre going to play in domes in cold weather areas, you cant even say that.

    Youre eliminating some of the best stadiums of all time from hosting a championship. Anyone that doesn’t think the SB belongs at Soldier Field, Lambeau, etc, is out of their mind. That’s what the game is. You get 16 regular season games that can be decided by weather…it should be the same in the championship.

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