Mike Daniels wants Packers’ defense to “shut up” naysayers

AP

Green Bay Packers defensive tackle Mike Daniels is tiring of hearing about it.

Fair or not, when the Packers’ offense is led by Aaron Rodgers and proves to be highly productive on a yearly basis, it’s the defense that has bore the brunt of criticism for the team’s inability to get back to the Super Bowl.

It’s something Daniels is tired of hearing about.

We have to take it personal,” Daniels said, via Rob Demovsky of ESPN.com. “You have to get pissed off that people are saying, ‘You guys suck on defense’ every year. ‘Oh, it’s the defense’s fault. Oh, the defense is terrible. Oh man, we need to get Aaron [Rodgers] a defense.’ That’s got to make you angry to the point where you’re like, ‘I’m going to shut these people up.’”

It doesn’t help that the last time the Packers played a game, the Atlanta Falcons gained 493 yards on offense, scored 44 points scored on seven of nine possessions and ended Green Bay’s season.

Daniels said he wanted the Packers defense to adopt the same mentality he sees in the Seattle Seahawks’ defense. He cited Richard Sherman’s verbal taunting of Russell Wilson in practice three years ago as a sign of a defense that won’t accept mediocrity.

“Sherman had gotten some heat for bringing the attitude to practice,” Daniels said. “But there is no NFC [championship or] Super Bowl-winning team that had a, how do you say, a pacifist-type defense. It’s just impossible. You’ll never see it. You’ve got to have some guys with a renegade mentality who’ll go out there and they’re not afraid to teeter that line — not cross it, but teeter it — and put the offense on their heels. And that’s exactly what Seattle does. You see it year-in and year-out.”

While the Packers’ defense may take too much blame at times, they haven’t posted a top ten unit in yards or points allowed in the last five seasons. Their best statistical effort was in 2012 when they ranked 11th in both categories. Nevertheless, they’ve twice come within a game of making the Super Bowl over that span. It may not take much more to get over the hump and back to the Super Bowl.

50 responses to “Mike Daniels wants Packers’ defense to “shut up” naysayers

  1. Needa move Clay back inside. His days of being an elite edge rusher are long gone but he is still a smart LB with great instincts and a leader on the defense. Been sayin for years we need some size at CB and it was finally addressed this offseason. Defense needs to take a couple big steps forward this year

  2. Good luck with that. If they have nothing left except all talk and challenging players to shut up the naysayers, it probably ain’t happening.

  3. Packer’s defense gets all the blame but Rodgers only stepped up in one post season and played tremendously. Ever since then he’s choked.

  4. Earth-to-Daniels

    Reputations are made on what you do, not what you say you want to do.

    Do it. Until you do…… shut up.

  5. I’m a Packer fan and I even like MD. He’s a good player, probably a little underrated on that D but Mike – time to actually start producing and stop flapping your gums.

    They wouldn’t say it’s the defense’s fault if you guys would actually show up a little more often.

    Even the local radio (I’m local to GB) hacks whose bread is completely buttered by the Packers have noticed and commented over the last several years that

    1. The Defense is not playing well
    2. Mike Daniels talks about being a nasty defense more than they actually are a nasty defense and its time to put up or shut up because while a chihuahua forces you to listen to his bark all the time, when it comes down to the fight – no one’s scared. NO ONE.

  6. I’m glad this guy is a Packer. The guy talks the talk, but he also walks the walk. This is the kind of vocal leadership the defense needs, IMO.

    They did suck last year, no question about it, but I think the biggest contributing factor is that they lost their #1 CB early in the season, and then their #2 and #3 guys got injured causing them to miss games. They were never anywhere near 100% and both required surgery to get better.

    I’ve heard nothing but praise for both Rollins and rookie Josh Jones out of training camp. Obviously, too early to predict anything, but as a Packers fan, you have to feel optimistic about this defense taking a step forward this year.

  7. It’s not a matter of playing better it’s a matter of getting better players. Quit passing on free agents, quit drawing names out of a hat and evaluate the talent on draft day, and quit whining.

  8. Daniels is very uneducated. He doesn’t realized they don’t have the talents there, and experts even uneducated people know more than fat Daniel. Go back to school fatty.

  9. Wow cody is out of hibernation and here to thrill us with his ingenius word play. We missed you buddy! You make the rest of the trolls quite proud.

  10. As long as Mike McCarthy allows Dom Capers to pretend to be a Defensive Coordinator and Ted Thompson is in charge of personnel, nothing will change on the Packer defense.

    The combination of Capers and Thompson is the limiting factor.

  11. ariani1985 says:
    Aug 1, 2017 6:45 AM
    uhhh mike, your unit ranks dead last in the league yet again. nobody takes you serious.
    ////////////////////////////////

    Not even close arianus. You want some stats? Here you go.

    Regular season defense:
    2014 Vikings #19, Packers #18.
    2015 Vikings #13, Packers #15.
    2016 Vikings #3, Packers #22.

    Three year average….Vikings #11.6, Packers #18.3. Impressive difference but not earth-shattering.

    Now, let’s check offenses shall we?

    Regular season offense:
    2014 Vikings #27, Packers #6
    2015 Vikings #29, Packers #23
    2016 Vikings #28, Packers #8

    Three year average….Vikings #28, Packers #12.3.

    Which team needs to improve more than the other to do well in the postseason?

    Viking trolls have no pride or shame. Worthless.

  12. stellarperformance says:
    Aug 1, 2017 10:01 AM
    ariani1985 says:
    Aug 1, 2017 6:45 AM
    uhhh mike, your unit ranks dead last in the league yet again. nobody takes you serious.
    ////////////////////////////////

    Not even close arianus. You want some stats? Here you go.

    Regular season defense:
    2014 Vikings #19, Packers #18.
    2015 Vikings #13, Packers #15.
    2016 Vikings #3, Packers #22.

    Three year average….Vikings #11.6, Packers #18.3. Impressive difference but not earth-shattering.

    Now, let’s check offenses shall we?

    Regular season offense:
    2014 Vikings #27, Packers #6
    2015 Vikings #29, Packers #23
    2016 Vikings #28, Packers #8

    Three year average….Vikings #28, Packers #12.3.

    Which team needs to improve more than the other to EVEN GET to the postseason and enjoy sustained success.

    Viking trolls have no pride or shame. Worthless.
    —————————-

    Very good post, and it’s worth repeating, as it illustrates perfectly how much the Barney fans post misinformation and outright lies.
    And they’ll do it on every story.

    Nothing is more humorous than a 3rd place fan base, pointing out the faults and flaws of a perineal winning team.

    The last line of your post actually speaks volumes, though I’m sure it’s lost on them.
    But I had to correct a small mistake you made.
    I hope you approve.

  13. After the embarrassing Seattle and Arizona collapses, it was blatantly obvious that this team had no faith or respect for their coaching staff when they laid down in the NFC championship game against Atlanta. They need to make some very big changes or nothing will change.

  14. beerbratscheese says:
    Aug 1, 2017 8:04 AM

    They did suck last year, no question about it, but I think the biggest contributing factor is that they lost their #1 CB early in the season, and then their #2 and #3 guys got injured causing them to miss games. They were never anywhere near 100% and both required surgery to get better.
    _________

    Yet another example of Packer fans never using injuries as an excuse.

  15. But Stellar, wouldn’t you agree that points allowed is a better measure of defensive performance than yards allowed?

  16. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    Aug 1, 2017 10:11 AM

    Meanwhile, the Vikings reward Barr, the admitted slacker that quit on his coach, with $12m; and the purples hop up and down, up and down, up and down.
    _______

    Just for the sake of accuracy, the Vikings picked up the fifth-year option on Barr’s rookie contract, which is guaranteed for injury only and due next year. They can still cut him and owe him nothing if they aren’t happy with his play, or they can more likely sign him to a long-term contract if he plays well this year. Therefore, Barr has been rewarded with nothing. Also, no Viking fan was happy with his performance last year, unlike Packer fans who try to use statistics to make the point that the Packer defense really is pretty good and almost as good as the Vikings. We expect better.

  17. I was not aware that the Cheese Packers had a defense.

    Do they travel with the gimmick offense which can only move the ball on free plays?

    Do they stay in the same hotel or do they find refrigerator boxes for living space?

    Enquiring minds want to know.

  18. Daniels didn’t have any problem slapping the vikings truly “offensive line” around last year but that doesn’t stop their trolls.

    It’s ironic that you are jawing about the Packers defense when your “elite defense” gave up 38 points to the Packers!

    SKOLOL! Purple hypocrites!

  19. The Phantom Stranger says:
    Aug 1, 2017 11:42 AM
    But Stellar, wouldn’t you agree that points allowed is a better measure of defensive performance than yards allowed?
    /////////////////////////////

    How does the NFL rank it on their official website?

  20. The Phantom Stranger says:
    Aug 1, 2017 12:04 PM

    Also, no Viking fan was happy with his performance last year, unlike Packer fans who try to use statistics to make the point that the Packer defense really is pretty good and almost as good as the Vikings. We expect better.
    —————————
    So, if you guys expect better, what’s your lame excuse for the Vikings crappy offense over the last several seasons?
    And seriously, why do you and the rest of the Barneys continue to justify Bridgewater’s mediocrity?
    Hypocrite much?

  21. The lame excuse for the Vikings’ crappy offense over the last several seasons is a lack of talent and a poor system that catered to the one-dimensional ability of an over-the-hill running back. Those problems have now been addressed to some extent by adding good players and jettisoning the dead weight.

    I suppose they could have tried anger and taunts, but that’s apparently more the Packers’ strategy.

  22. Fecal

    You weren’t asked what the default sort order is.

    You were asked which criteria is a better measurement.

    The game of football is decided by points scored, not by yards amassed.

    Knowledgeable football fans understand that.

    Which explains why you don’t.

  23. The packers defense is simply a reflection of the fanbase: big mouths but little physical resistance. It’s all talk.

    Last year Kenny Clark was a steal, he was going to be a difference maker. This year, it’s Kevin King. Six straight years, six straight 1st round defensive picks and it’s done little good.

    But facts will never get in the way of the packers defense yapping away. Much like their fans.

  24. The Phantom Stranger says:
    Aug 1, 2017 1:09 PM
    I suppose they could have tried anger and taunts, but that’s apparently more the Packers’ strategy.
    /////////////////////////////////////

    Actually, you’ve described a typical Viking stalker-hater troll. That’s their strategy……..anger, taunts, insults, putdowns, and picking needless fights, usually with alcohol involved (and it takes very little!)

  25. stellarperformance says:
    Aug 1, 2017 12:49 PM

    The Phantom Stranger says:
    Aug 1, 2017 11:42 AM
    But Stellar, wouldn’t you agree that points allowed is a better measure of defensive performance than yards allowed?
    /////////////////////////////

    How does the NFL rank it on their official website?
    _____

    You’re so easy.

  26. I think us Vike fans might want to tread carefully here, the Packers with a top 10 or even top 15 defense would be a problem.

  27. If I were a Viking fan, I’d be a little more worried about the looming chaos with the Vikings rather than Packers efforts to bolster the defense. In particular, the looming legal battle over Vike leadership trying to keep Teddy on the PUP list in order to basically screw him over will be very interesting.

  28. I see fecal has no response to my post, even though he has posted since it was up.

    Of course, there is no way for him to try and explain his lack of football knowledge so keeping his mouth shut and his fingers off the keyboard is his best response.

  29. The Phantom Stranger says:
    Aug 1, 2017 11:40 AM
    beerbratscheese says:
    Aug 1, 2017 8:04 AM

    They did suck last year, no question about it, but I think the biggest contributing factor is that they lost their #1 CB early in the season, and then their #2 and #3 guys got injured causing them to miss games. They were never anywhere near 100% and both required surgery to get better.
    _________

    Yet another example of Packer fans never using injuries as an excuse.
    —————–

    Tell you what. You guys stop up bringing up the Vikings’ O-line and we’ll stop bringing up the Packers’ secondary. Deal?

  30. banky74 says:
    Aug 1, 2017 2:06 PM

    The packers defense is simply a reflection of the fanbase: big mouths but little physical resistance. It’s all talk.

    Last year Kenny Clark was a steal, he was going to be a difference maker. This year, it’s Kevin King. Six straight years, six straight 1st round defensive picks and it’s done little good.

    But facts will never get in the way of the packers defense yapping away. Much like their fans.
    __________________________

    The Packers didn’t have a first round pick, they got King in the second. But don’t let those facts get in the way of your yapping.

  31. All this back-and-forth is becoming tiresome and pointless. All the insults and putdowns and slander and Fake News and the negative historical referencing thrown at the Packers doesn’t deter us as fans and doesn’t change one simple fact:

    The Packers are better than the Vikings.

    Now…you can wish they weren’t, you can hope they aren’t, you can bet they’re not……but they are.

    To all the overly-obsessed Packer-hating stalker-trolls: …..have some pride in yourself as a good fan and show some some humility until the Vikings have provided you with the divisional bragging right we currently enjoy as Packer fans.

    It’s a tough pill to swallow, I’m sure.

    Bon Appetit!

  32. mypercyhurts2 says:

    The Packers didn’t have a first round pick, they got King in the second. But don’t let those facts get in the way of your yapping.
    ^^^^^

    The Packers most certainly did have a first round pick in 2017 – it was the 29th pick of the draft.

    TT didn’t think they needed anyone with the pick and traded it to the Browns for pick #33 instead.

    It is rumored that TT thought he’d still be able to get TJ Watt with that pick, but he was wrong, as the Steelers took him with pick #30.

    So King was what the Packers got instead with their first draft pick in 2017.

    But don’t let the facts get in the way of your yapping…

  33. I was disappointed the Pack didn’t take Watt but I’ve read no such rumor. I’d be more than happy to, if you can point me to it.

    Beyond that, you clearly don’t understand the way successful draft & develop teams run their drafts. In Ron Wolf’s day, it was “best player available” which certainly worked better than reaching to fill needs. He’d take the best guy, if the Pack didn’t need the guy, he’d trade the guy for players he did need or future picks. That’s no longer applicable the way the cap has made picks more attractive than high-priced players, almost across the board.

    Now, the teams successful at building through the draft use “need meets value.” Thompson will have identified several players he’s interested in, assigned each of them a core value, and grouped them in slots. His first slot will have contained King, possibly Watt, and several others.

    When pick 29 came up, there will have been King and others available, so Thompson knew he’d get one of his first-slot guys with pick 33. So, he makes the trade and gets an extra pick while still getting one of his first-slot guys… and King may even have been the guy he wanted most. That, we’ll never know.

    You can yip-yap at Stellar all you want to about cherry-picked stats from various drafts but the results are the only thing that matters… and we all know what the results have been.

  34. Vince Biegel is a better player than TJ Watt………if he’s healthy. He wasn’t in college and he’s not again, so that sucks.

  35. Each season is a brand new year. The Packers need to have their defensive players taken high in the draft (both this year and the previous year) step up to the plate and deliver a top 10 defense because if they do, the Packers have a top 10 offense already.

    Meanwhile, the Purple team has not won a playoff game in 7 years but their fans sure love to yap.

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