Tom Brady: Whether I had a concussion isn’t anybody’s business

AP

Patriots quarterback Tom Brady fielded questions from a group of reporters for the first time since Super Bowl LI today, and when asked about his wife’s claim that he suffered a concussion last year, he declined to answer.

Asked specifically about Gisele Bundchen’s statement that Brady had a concussion during the 2016 season, Brady neither confirmed nor denied it.

“I don’t want to get into things that happened in my past, certainly medical history and so forth, I really don’t think that’s anybody’s business,” Brady said. “There’s people that do worry about that. My wife, my parents, my sisters, people that love me and care about me, but I do the best I can do to come out and be prepared to play mentally and physically and give the game everything I can.”

Brady said he is aware of recent research suggesting that most NFL players suffer some degree of permanent brain damage on the field, but he said he sees benefits to football as well.

“You’re not blind to it as a player,” Brady said. “It’s a contact sport and I think we all understand that. And there’s a lot of great benefits that football brings you. You certainly can be put in harm’s way.”

If Brady did suffer a concussion last season, it wasn’t disclosed publicly and it didn’t cause him to miss any time. That means it wasn’t handled properly, according to the NFL’s concussion protocol, which may be why he’d rather not talk about it.

152 responses to “Tom Brady: Whether I had a concussion isn’t anybody’s business

  1. Perfect response from Brady. We live in this weird social media driven world where people think they need to know everything about everyone. Would you want the world to know of your medical records? I doubt it, I know I wouldn’t.

  2. Is it any more obvious these Pats and Brady feel like they are above the rules. If you have a concussion you need to go through the concussion protocol. Any other team or player would be getting scrutinized, but unfortunately the Pats have bullied the league and the commissioner and the cheating will continue.

  3. If it wasn’t reported on the injury report, it is everybody’s business. That would be against league policy. But, hey, it is the Patriots & they can do whatever they want and the league just looks the other way. To hell with Brady & the Patriots.

  4. “I don’t want to get into things that happened in my past, certainly medical history and so forth, I really don’t think that’s anybody’s business,”

    He could not have said it better.

    Oh, I hate the media but not as much as I hate Roger. Close tho…

  5. “Cheat all you want guys.”

    Lolz no player is required to report any medical issue. No player is required to submit themselves to the concussion protocol unless the independent 3rd party observer tells the league they need to be examined.

    So while it may somehow be “cheating” in the tiny little minds of the haters if he had one and did not report it, by league rules it is not. And guess what, since he followed the rules is doesn’t matter how many times the cheater sheep bleat away, its not cheating.

    Love his response, its designed to drive people like you nuts.

  6. Is it any more obvious these Pats and Brady feel like they are above the rules.
    =====

    They’re well beyond their competition at this point.

    Might as well be arrogant about it.

  7. It’s no one’s business until you retire and have symptoms of CTE and then you want to sue the league.

  8. Huge Pats and Brady fan, but I think he has it wrong on this one. In his position, instead of selling watches and junk science, he could take a huge lead in further raising awareness about brain injuries. As in, ‘Yeah, maybe I did and played thru it. A lot of players feel they have to, but they shouldn’t’.

  9. huskersrock1 says:
    August 4, 2017 at 11:57 am
    In the profession he chose it is everybody’s business. From the sports lines to casual fans, there is a reason for injury reports.

    ————

    The Colts’failure to report Andrew Luck’s broken ribs says otherwise

  10. trubroncfan07 says:

    August 4, 2017 at 11:49 am

    Is it any more obvious these Pats and Brady feel like they are above the rules. If you have a concussion you need to go through the concussion protocol. Any other team or player would be getting scrutinized, but unfortunately the Pats have bullied the league and the commissioner and the cheating will continue.

    SCREW YOU!!! no mention of your Broncos and what manning did regarding PED’S!!!

  11. So how many players do you think suffered some type of a concussion and slipped through the protocol? 22 players to be watched every play and 120+ plays times 16 games per week….
    Every week someone at the bottom of a pile is out and wakes up before the pile is done unpiling and walks back and is able to fake it enough to make it through. Everyone reacts different and there are so many degrees of concussion.
    Not a story if his name isn’t Brady.

  12. So two hours after the game if you develop a headache, is that a concussion? I am in favor of erring on the side of caution when it comes to head injuries, but Brady played in 15 games last year and stood on a podium after each and was grilled by the press for 10-15 minutes and never gave any indication of slow or disjointed responses. Unless he’s a really good actor, I couldn’t see it.

  13. “If Brady did suffer a concussion last season, it wasn’t disclosed publicly and it didn’t cause him to miss any time. That means it wasn’t handled properly, according to the NFL’s concussion protocol, which may be why he’d rather not talk about it.”

    There is no rule requiring players self report an injury. If Brady did suffer a concussion he didn’t report it. Please explain how an unreported injury could possibly be improperly handled? Does anyone believe the Patriots would have put Brady at risk with a SB to win when they had an excellent backup available?

    Brady’s statement sounds like pure husband speak to me. “There’s people that do worry about that. My wife, my parents, my sisters, people that love me and care about me…”
    That’s nothing but pure gold at home, smart man that Brady.

  14. Broncos’ fans really need to stay out of the discussion about being above the rules. St. Peyton was on HGH the year he threw for the 55 TD’s after 3 neck surgeries. The last year he played was proof of that.

  15. Lolz no player is required to report any medical issue. No player is required to submit themselves to the concussion protocol unless the independent 3rd party observer tells the league they need to be examined.

    So while it may somehow be “cheating” in the tiny little minds of the haters if he had one and did not report it, by league rules it is not. And guess what, since he followed the rules is doesn’t matter how many times the cheater sheep bleat away, its not cheating.

    Love his response, its designed to drive people like you nuts.
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    Reading comprehension. Learn something about it.

    Guy’S’.. plural. Not referencing Brady alone.

    I don’t care that he’s not admitting he had a concussion, nor do I expect him to.

    Why is this a story? This “wasn’t handled properly, according to the NFL’s concussion protocol” just as Mr Smith said. Fact. FACT. Whether that was the Patriots, Patriots team doctors, the independent specialist, somebody buried this. Don’t care who. Don’t care why. Just love that your guys have more egg on their face.

    If your guys weren’t such blatant cheaters, we might be inclined to ignore the smoke here. But since your guys cheat, exploit and flaunt at every turn, we’re throwing the book at you. AGAIN.

    .. and I don’t hate the Patriots. I think Belichick may well be the GOAT. And I respect Brady, despite the hero worship. But you bottom dwelling fans? Yep, guilty as charged. I never pass an opportunity to launch a word grenade at you goons.

  16. Well he can’t admit the concussion water isn’t working… that would be terrible for sales!

  17. The Patriots system is so great, Brady allegedly played with multiple concussions and they didn’t skip a beat. Let that sink in folks. There has never been a greater system in the history of the league.

    On behalf of the true Patriot fans, thank you Mr. Belichick and Mr. Kraft for putting together such a system and we wish continued success. Haters will just have to deal.

  18. As a Ravens Fan I hate Brady on game days but as time goes by I realize it’s just jealousy. He’s the greatest on and off the field that’s ever played QB.

  19. A non-answer like that is an always an answer. It’s better to just reply to in an a way that says nothing, rather than giving a headline.

    “bdevil1952 says:
    August 4, 2017 at 12:06 pm
    Broncos’ fans really need to stay out of the discussion about being above the rules. St. Peyton was on HGH the year he threw for the 55 TD’s after 3 neck surgeries. The last year he played was proof of that.”

    You clearly don’t know how HGH works. It’s not a steroid, there is no coming down period after not using. It helps improve natural (as it occurs naturally as it’s essentially a protein) repairs to the body, and in natural cases deals with growth hence HUman Growth Hormone, which is why it’s cycled with steroids. HGH for repair, steroids for boost. Which it’s used in major injuries like acl tears, and in complications caused by diseases like HIV and what not. You’re not going to notice a decrease in somebody that used HGH and then stopped. It doesn’t work that way.

  20. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    August 4, 2017 at 12:16 pm
    The Patriots system is so great, Brady allegedly played with multiple concussions and they didn’t skip a beat. Let that sink in folks. There has never been a greater system in the history of the league.

    On behalf of the true Patriot fans, thank you Mr. Belichick and Mr. Kraft for putting together such a system and we wish continued success. Haters will just have to deal.

    #fakepatriotsfan

  21. In the profession he chose it is everybody’s business. From the sports lines to casual fans, there is a reason for injury reports.

    ————

    The Colts’failure to report Andrew Luck’s broken ribs says otherwise

    __________

    The Colts failure to follow the rules doesn’t make it right.

  22. joeflaccoallday says:
    August 4, 2017 at 11:49 am
    Lol this guy is a bonifed idiot. He sounds shady every time he talks. Nothing but cheating and lying.

    Bonified? Sounds painful. Someone is a Bona fide something alrighty.

  23. aarons444 says:
    August 4, 2017 at 12:10 pm

    Yep, guilty as charged. I never pass an opportunity to launch a word grenade at you goons.
    _________________

    It’s unfortunate you aren’t better at it.

  24. aarons444 says:
    August 4, 2017 at 12:10 pm
    Lolz no player is required to report any medical issue. No player is required to submit themselves to the concussion protocol unless the independent 3rd party observer tells the league they need to be examined.

    So while it may somehow be “cheating” in the tiny little minds of the haters if he had one and did not report it, by league rules it is not. And guess what, since he followed the rules is doesn’t matter how many times the cheater sheep bleat away, its not cheating.

    Love his response, its designed to drive people like you nuts.
    ======

    Reading comprehension. Learn something about it.

    Guy’S’.. plural. Not referencing Brady alone.

    I don’t care that he’s not admitting he had a concussion, nor do I expect him to.

    Why is this a story? This “wasn’t handled properly, according to the NFL’s concussion protocol” just as Mr Smith said. Fact. FACT. Whether that was the Patriots, Patriots team doctors, the independent specialist, somebody buried this. Don’t care who. Don’t care why. Just love that your guys have more egg on their face.

    If your guys weren’t such blatant cheaters, we might be inclined to ignore the smoke here. But since your guys cheat, exploit and flaunt at every turn, we’re throwing the book at you. AGAIN.

    .. and I don’t hate the Patriots. I think Belichick may well be the GOAT. And I respect Brady, despite the hero worship. But you bottom dwelling fans? Yep, guilty as charged. I never pass an opportunity to launch a word grenade at you goons.

    IF, Alleged, look up up Mr Reading Comprehension. Clearly you’re familiar with the bottom.

  25. And BTW, anything coming from a bonehead who is lame enough to use Joe Flaccid, I mean Joe Flacco in his handle isn’t worth our consideration.

    Sorry Joe Flacco guy but it looks like a long year in Baltimore again. I hope you will enjoy looking up in the standings all year. Your team looks kind of, well, flaccid. So I know the easy thing is to blame the opposition and accuse them of rules transgressions. Just let me say, that when the Patriots are hoisting their 6th Lombardi next February your comments will mean even less than they do now. Enjoy the season.

  26. Cheating once again. For players on other teams of course it’s weeks on the concussion protocol before being cleared to play.

  27. Greatest player that the game has ever seen but why doesn’t the concussion protocol apply to him? He is a special player but nevertheless he’s still a player. The concussion protocol applies to all players not all players except Tom Brady.

  28. Man it’s just AWESOME how anything Patriots related sends the hen house into chaos….. All the meaningless clucking is a riot!!!
    Brady had no concussion last year…..& IF he did he played thru it & would be less than 100% effective….. THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE…..
    So now he’s guilty of cheating by playing hurt??!! You guys are too much….. Just deal with his greatness & move along!!

  29. Sorry, but if the league didn’t do anything about the Colts not reporting injuries they’re not going to do anything here. Also, since when is someone’s access to public health records a right for fans? The JPP case seems to go against that point. Hiding concussions has always been an unfortunate part of football culture.

  30. “If Brady did suffer a concussion last season, it wasn’t disclosed publicly and it didn’t cause him to miss any time. That means it wasn’t handled properly, according to the NFL’s concussion protocol, which may be why he’d rather not talk about it.”
    ======================================================================================
    That’s actually not correct. You need “observable symptoms” and there is no violation to the player for not self reporting.

    “Observable symptoms”
    There are seven observable symptoms used to identify players with concussions. Those are:

    Any loss of consciousness

    Slow to get up following a hit to the head (“hit to the head” may include secondary contact with the playing surface)

    Motor coordination/balance problems (stumbles, trips/falls, slow/labored movement)

    Blank or vacant look

    Disorientation (e.g., unsure of where he is on the field or location of bench)

    Clutching of head after contact

    Visible facial injury in combination with any of the above

  31. purplekoolaid1 says:
    August 4, 2017 at 11:47 am
    Perfect response from Brady. We live in this weird social media driven world where people think they need to know everything about everyone. Would you want the world to know of your medical records? I doubt it, I know I wouldn’t.

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    We also live in this weird litigious society where players play with concussions that they have hidden from their team doctors and at the age of 50 cant remember the names of their children because of all the hidden concussions, they sue the NFL for not doing more to protect them.

    The league is on the hook for over a billion dollars over this issue and you think its perfectly OK for a premier player to hide the very condition that is costing the league that kind of money over?

  32. I have no problem with him not announcing his concussions but I just dont want to hear him or his family complain about the NFL’s concussion protocol in the future. Or try to sue the league.

  33. Pats fan view.

    Sherman doesn’t disclose knee injury – rule breaker and terrible person. Brady doesn’t disclose concussion – hero and leader of freedom of privacy.

  34. eagleslayer says:
    August 4, 2017 at 12:41 pm
    Between all the air inside him and his wife’s head, his kids are going to grow up very stupid.
    Yeah, he’s a moron, a multi millionaire moron. I’d hate to be that stupid.

  35. seabrawk12 says:
    August 4, 2017 at 12:56 pm
    Pats fan view.

    Sherman doesn’t disclose knee injury – rule breaker and terrible person. Brady doesn’t disclose concussion – hero and leader of freedom of privacy.

    You have some evidence or is this just another framegate? Sorry, you won’t have Chris the Coward to shill for you this time.

  36. Actually, it’s the league and his team’s business…anyone who says differently is ignoring the fact that this is a job governed by medical reporting regulations. If the team or Brady knew and didn’t report it that’s a HUGE problem.

    Anybody saying differently is either a homer or has forgotten the reason these rules were mandated by the NFL.

  37. Very few NFL players would forgo their NFL careers no matter the health risks.

    That said, the players willingness to play should not limit the league’s responsibility to both limit risk and compensate players for the dhort and long term consequences from such injuries.

  38. All this because of something his wife said which may not even be accurate…..didn’t even know she was a doctor…. A supermodel doctor no less…..THEY are especially smart!!!
    Lol

  39. seabrawk12 says:
    August 4, 2017 at 12:56 pm
    Pats fan view.

    Sherman doesn’t disclose knee injury – rule breaker and terrible person. Brady doesn’t disclose concussion – hero and leader of freedom of privacy.
    ====
    Except for the fact it was known by the team that Sherman’s knee was hurt. The Seahawks didn’t disclose because Sherman didn’t miss any practice or game time.

  40. It’s not against the rules to play with a concussion. It’s illegal for a team to let a player back in after failing the concussion protocol. Massive difference

  41. Legally speaking, he’s probably right. That the NFL makes injuries public certainly goes against the letter of the HIPAA law (though I would guess this was negotiated by players and owners).

    But as the league DOES make injuries known, and as the concussion crisis isn’t going away, and as it has rules about concussions, it’s really a stupid answer.

  42. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    August 4, 2017 at 12:16 pm
    The Patriots system is so great, Brady allegedly played with multiple concussions and they didn’t skip a beat. Let that sink in folks. There has never been a greater system in the history of the league.

    …………======================

    Except that Belichick is only 18-19 as Pats HC when Brady doesn’t start. Not a system QB, not disputable.

  43. All these people who complaint about the Patriots’ alleged “cheating” and troll the boards to instigate Patriots fans – We don’t care.

    The Patriots have done nothing illegal and they have done nothing that has resulted in the league vacating any of their championships. Rather, they have been accused of violating rules set by the NFL.

    If you invested in GOOGLE and the CEO violated industry rules (it has happened), would you sell your stock and give up on the company? Not unless it negatively impacted the value of the organization.

  44. I love the answer. No doctor diagnosed a concussion, his wife did. But instead of saying that, he taunts Roger Goodell publicly and indirectly with a No Answer. Goodell isn’t man enough to do an investigation, but he is furious Brady is being coy about such an important issue to the league

  45. “Sherman doesn’t disclose knee injury – rule breaker and terrible person. Brady doesn’t disclose concussion – hero and leader of freedom of privacy.”

    Difference is the team knew of Sherman’s injury and didn’t put it on the injury report which is a rules violation. Brady not disclosing a concussion, if he even had one, when the team was not aware of it is not a rules violation.

  46. Regardless of whether Brady did or didn’t have a concussion, the guy had three options –

    1. Admit it, and possibly get his team in trouble
    2. Deny it, and essentially call his wife a liar, or
    3. Refuse to answer, and take the scorn upon himself.

    The non-answer was really his only option.

  47. kissbillsrings says:
    August 4, 2017 at 1:14 pm
    All this because of something his wife said which may not even be accurate…..didn’t even know she was a doctor…. A supermodel doctor no less…..THEY are especially smart!!!
    Lol

    **********************************************************************************************
    Well…believe it or not….married couples do discuss their health with each other. I doubt she made those comments because she administered concussion protocol as soon as he got home. In all likelihood it probably stemmed from a conversation they had where he indicated he got his bell run or was having headaches after a game.

    Patriots fans…….THEY are especially smart!!!

  48. aarons444 says:
    August 4, 2017 at 12:10 pm

    Reading comprehension. Learn something about it.

    Why is this a story? This “wasn’t handled properly, according to the NFL’s concussion protocol” just as Mr Smith said. Fact. FACT. Whether that was the Patriots, Patriots team doctors, the independent specialist, somebody buried this. Don’t care who. Don’t care why. Just love that your guys have more egg on their face.
    ————————-

    In which game did Brady suffer this phantom buried concussion?

  49. sdelmonte says:
    August 4, 2017 at 1:31 pm
    Legally speaking, he’s probably right. That the NFL makes injuries public certainly goes against the letter of the HIPAA law (though I would guess this was negotiated by players and owners).

    But as the league DOES make injuries known, and as the concussion crisis isn’t going away, and as it has rules about concussions, it’s really a stupid answer.

    HIPPA is to protect hospitals and medical professionals from revealing medical records. It has no effect on the teams whatsoever.

  50. “If the team or Brady knew and didn’t report it that’s a HUGE problem.”

    If the team knew and didn’t report it, that’s a rules violation.

    If Brady knew but the team didn’t, that’s his business and his alone.

  51. Brady is 100% correct. I am surprised that NFL players don’t complain more about everyone knowing everything that happens to them medically. After all, there are laws pertaining to that for the rest of us — and them, too.
    I am not a Patriots fan but I admire Tom Brady immensely. Not only is he clearly the best QB of his era and one of the best of all time, he is very intelligent.
    I also love the fact that the mere mention of Tom Brady or the Patriots drives so many NFL fans crazy. I’m a Packers fan and the Packers and Aaron Rodgers get the same reaction whenever they are mentioned. The reason is of course, jealousy. Pure, unadulterated jealousy.

  52. He’s not going to burn his wife. In the same interview he thanked his wife (and family for their support) for taking care of things so he is able to concentrate on football.

  53. pleasantsurpriselefty says:
    August 4, 2017 at 12:44 pm

    What do you think the chances are that all the people yelling cheating every time the Patriots are mentioned are card carrying deplorables? Just asking
    ————————

    50/50. There are idiots on either side of the political coin.

  54. “Brady is 100% correct. I am surprised that NFL players don’t complain more about everyone knowing everything that happens to them medically. After all, there are laws pertaining to that for the rest of us — and them, too.”

    So you don’t think that players should be subject to the league’s concussion protocols? Just let them decide for themselves if their brain is OK using their own possibly scattered brain.

  55. Technically it is the NFL’s business though.
    Whatever… hide your concussions. When you’re brain dead, don’t try suing the NFL.

  56. lyfordjr says:
    August 4, 2017 at 2:16 pm
    “If the team or Brady knew and didn’t report it that’s a HUGE problem.”

    If the team knew and didn’t report it, that’s a rules violation.

    If Brady knew but the team didn’t, that’s his business and his alone.
    —————————————————————————-

    If Brady had a concussion and the team’s medical experts couldn’t tell, that is a problem.

    Also… I’m wondering when Brady is EVER hit hard enough to get a concussion. Defenders sneeze around that guy and they throw penalty flags like crazy.

  57. aarons444 says:
    August 4, 2017 at 11:46 am

    Cheat all you want guys.

    As if we’re not used to it by now?!
    **************************************

    How is it cheating? Brady is under no obligation to tell anyone anything about his injuries. If he reports a concussion or has symptoms, then the *team* has various obligations, but that’s it.

  58. huskersrock1 says:
    August 4, 2017 at 12:30 pm
    In the profession he chose it is everybody’s business. From the sports lines to casual fans, there is a reason for injury reports.

    ————

    The Colts’failure to report Andrew Luck’s broken ribs says otherwise

    __________

    The Colts failure to follow the rules doesn’t make it right.

    ——-
    And yet Goodell did nothing ……just like what he did about Andrew Luck deflating footballs

  59. Brady is going to be diagnosed with CTE in 10 years, and then he will turn around and sue Goodell for “more likely than not” having conspired to suppress CTE-related risks.

  60. About time. We all know the NFL can cause problems later in life. But damn, be frugal use common sense for yourself. And if they want to really make the game safer, lessen the padding and get rid of helmets. Well, don’t get rid of them, but you have put so much padding on these guys they could run face first into a wall. They play in a reckless manner because of the pads. Reduce them. I played tackle football as a kid, and we rarely had head injures because you protected your friggin head. Great tackling is technique more than strength.

  61. In which game did Brady suffer this phantom buried concussion?
    =====

    The media is reporting it.

    Given their outstanding history of being morally and ethically responsible, I am willing to accept its validity…………………………

    Even if it weren’t true, you guys would accuse the Commissioner of conspiracy.

  62. Patriots fans…….THEY are especially smart!!!
    ————————————–
    Yes we already know that….
    & thanks for acknowledging it!!!!

  63. Honestly…I don’t care if he played or not. His choice. Exactly as he said, we understand the risks and football does so much for us. If he would have been put in protocol in the AFCCG they probably lose, and if they won they would have been smoked by Atlanta. If I were a fan of one of those teams I would probably care a bit more, or if one of those teams had a significant player that properly report a concussion and was therefore out, but the reality is it would have made for very bad football if one of the best QB’s ever did not play. That being said this is my argument with CTE and football. The players know the risks and if they choose to play through it and not report concussions how can the league possibly be held accountable? Brady and his wife have so much money I can’t see him joining any future lawsuits that may arise, however I don’t really want to hear him complaining about any issues the league doesn’t protect the players on either….

  64. For those who agree the Brady’s concussions are not anyone’s concerns need to check out what’s going on with studies of CTE. This hurts the NFL and the families who won’t allow their child to play football because they see all the studies showing your chances of getting CTE because of football. 25 years from now if we see that Brady is suffering from a concussion related issues will cause huge negative outcomes to the NFL just because of who Brady is and how popular he is to the sport. I dislike Brady has much as the next person but his legacy will not change if he sits out a game to recover for a concussion. It’s smart for him and all the people that look at him as an idol and want to be just like him. Send the message that your health should always come first.

  65. highsodium says:
    August 4, 2017 at 3:21 pm
    Brady is going to be diagnosed with CTE in 10 years, and then he will turn around and sue Goodell for “more likely than not” having conspired to suppress CTE-related risks.
    ___________________________

    CTE can only be diagnosed postmortem. Are you really contending that Tom Brady will be die in 10 years but defeat death itself? I can understand that you are in awe of his abilities and accomplishments and he has done a remarkable job fighting off Father Time but claiming he is some type of messiah that will rise from the grave is just taking the hero worship a little too far.

  66. seabrawk12 says:
    August 4, 2017 at 12:56 pm
    Pats fan view.

    Sherman doesn’t disclose knee injury – rule breaker and terrible person. Brady doesn’t disclose concussion – hero and leader of freedom of privacy.
    _____________________

    Trolling 12 view.

    Conflate a player that received treatment & time off as the result of an injury not appearing on the injury report with a player that did not.

    Conclusion, that little bro is still mad.

  67. Love Belichek, greatest coach of all time (and I’m a Steelers’ fan); respect Brady, great QB, not sold on the GOAT thing because of the rule changes that protect the QBs now.

    However, the PATS fans are what makes me not like the team . . . humility goes a long way.

    That being said, if he had a concussion, with all of the focus on head injuries and permanent brain damage, it really should have been a no brainer (no pun intended) for him to go through the protocol and put it out there for all levels of sports to see that this is the right way to handle potential head injuries. Too many young athletes look up to Tom Brady and if it helps one person get the help they need, or get diagnosed immediately and effectively, then it’s worth it.

  68. How’s this for a deal? Brady will tell the NFL all about any concussions he’s had as soon as the NFL releases all the data its collected on the inflation testing it’s been collecting on random footballs over the past two years.

  69. How low can you really sink when you hear “Brady concussion” and your immediate feeling is gratification? There are so many hypocrites here crying about health and rules when in truth they don’t care for Brady’s health but simply want him and the Patriots to be punished so they can feel better about all these years of losing to them. Pathetic.

  70. Apparently every player not named Tom Brady is subject to the NFL’s concussion protocol.

    Go ahead… tell me again how the Patri*ts don’t cheat.

  71. This is where i agree with brady and bill. Why is it everyone else’s business? Is it because of Vegas? That is why they call it gambling. Maybe the buildings would be smaller if Vegas didn’t have all the insider trading knowledge.

  72. megnailsit says:
    August 4, 2017 at 1:15 pm
    He took a beating in the AFCCG in Denver. If it happened then, the Pats last game of the season, where would it be reported?
    ————————

    If it happened during this game he would have been taken out of the game and wouldn’t have played the rest until medically cleared. So he would have reported it to his medical staff whenever it occurred.

  73. If Brady did suffer a concussion last season, it wasn’t disclosed publicly and it didn’t cause him to miss any time. That means it wasn’t handled properly, according to the NFL’s concussion protocol, which may be why he’d rather not talk about it.
    —–
    That’s not true. It was only handled improperly if the team diagnosed him with one and kept him on the field anyway. We know from the team and the league that no such diagnosis was made. Therefore… nothing to see. 🙂

    And the GOAT is right anyway it isn’t anyone’s business 🙂 No NFL player at his level would do something as mindblowingly stupid as publicly put a bullseye on their head.

  74. Exactly. No one’s business. End of a hyperventilated slow season non-story. It’s no surprise that the toughest player doesn’t broadcast when he’s dinged.

  75. aarons444 says:
    August 4, 2017 at 3:30 pm

    The media is reporting it.

    Given their outstanding history of being morally and ethically responsible, I am willing to accept its validity…………………………

    Even if it weren’t true, you guys would accuse the Commissioner of conspiracy.
    ————————–

    The only thing the media reported was that Gisele said Tom had a concussion. Whether or not he actually did is just speculation/fodder for the hater bozos.

    Obviously, there wasn’t some definitive moment from any game that someone can point to as evidence of a concussion, though with the abysmal track record of the NFL concussion spotters, anything is possible.

  76. denverdude7 says:
    August 4, 2017 at 4:24 pm

    Apparently every player not named Tom Brady is subject to the NFL’s concussion protocol.
    ———————–

    Neither Case Keenum nor Cam Newton is named Tom Brady, and they actually should have been in the protocol.

  77. He’s right but he needs to tell his old lady to keep her trap shut. Significant others who speak up and defend the player makes the player look weak, ie. Mrs Warner, Mrs Stafford, whackjob Mrs Grimes.

  78. Go ahead… tell me again how the Patri*ts don’t cheat.

    They don’t. Never have, never will.

    The Broncos on the other hand… the only team in the history of the National Football League to be fined for taping another team’s practices. 🙂

    Wear that one cupcake it’s all yours.

    🙂

  79. > Except that Belichick is only 18-19 as Pats HC when Brady doesn’t start. Not a system QB, not disputable.

    Since Brady became the starter, Belichick is 13-6 when Brady doesn’t start.
    If you want to count the 0-2 start before Bledsoe was injured in 2001,
    then Belichick is still 13-8 when Brady doesn’t start.
    So maybe it is disputable. He is a great system QB though.

    Considering that the Packers have also been to the playoffs eight straight
    seasons but are 3-5-1 in the Rodgers era when Rodgers doesn’t start,
    I’d have to say it’s very obvious who the top QB in football is.

  80. Unless he was diagnosed with a concussion no one would ever really know if he really ever had one, including his wife. The only possible wrongdoing in this case would be if he were diagnosed with a concussion and the Patriots failed to report it. So, in the absence of a doctor’s diagnosis, this is really a dead issue. I hate saying this, but players hide concussion symptoms all the time for obvious reasons. If Brady did this, he would hardly be alone. Some of the posters here want to throw the book at the Brady and the Patriots, but only because they think that it will punish them, not because they have any concern for the player or his safety (which is the whole reason for the protocol in the first place).

  81. Since Brady became the starter, Belichick is 13-6 when Brady doesn’t start.

    Playoff appearances without Brady’s services: 0

    The end.

    🙂

  82. If Brady did this, he would hardly be alone.

    –/
    Peyton Manning is on record saying he would deliberately botch the concussion baseline test so he wouldn’t fail it after a game.

    Probably not the smartest thing for guys to do but it’s their brain.

  83. LyinRogerMustGo says:
    August 4, 2017 at 6:16 pm
    Since Brady became the starter, Belichick is 13-6 when Brady doesn’t start.

    Playoff appearances without Brady’s services: 0

    The end.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Besides the time he coached the Brownies and beat the Pats in the playoffs?

  84. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Besides the time he coached the Brownies and beat the Pats in the playoffs?

    That is very true but I’m talking strictly about his stint with the Patriots. 1994 is completely irrelevant to both Tom Brady and who Bill is as a coach today. I suspect you knew that already. 🙂

  85. then Belichick is still 13-8 when Brady doesn’t start


    Someone also forgot to count 5-11 without Brady starting in 2000 🙂 Whoops! Silly mistake huh?

    🙂

  86. It’s the league’s business, the opposing teams’ business, and the media’s business, and the fans’ business when you lie about concussions in violation of league rules. You signed off on the rules when under your contract. This applies to anyone in the league and not just Brady or the Pats.

    It’s amazing how many homers excuse his explanation as gospel. If it was Aaron Rodgers or Matt Ryan you’d be howling for suspensions.

  87. seabrawk12 says:
    August 4, 2017 at 12:56 pm
    Pats fan view.

    Sherman doesn’t disclose knee injury – rule breaker and terrible person. Brady doesn’t disclose concussion – hero and leader of freedom of privacy.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-
    Sherman or any other player DOES NOT have to disclose ANY injury…It is up to the Coaching/Medical Staff to add that to the injury report…

  88. Tee hee 🙂 It really is so easy to get under Patriot Hater’s skin isn’t it? 🙂

    Clearly the emotional scars from those last two Patriot Super Bowl victories have taken its toll!

    🙂

  89. > Playoff appearances without Brady’s services: 0
    >
    > The end.

    That was only one season. They were 11-5 with Matt Cassel. If anything, that season shows how good a system BB has in place. They also missed the playoffs one season with Brady as the starter all year, in 2002.

    Ask any Vikings fan. Without Rodgers, the Packers would have no chance of even being a .500 team. I think most of us Packers fans also know that would be true.

  90. > Someone also forgot to count 5-11 without Brady starting in 2000 🙂 Whoops! Silly mistake huh?

    How can you compare how they play when Brady is out if he isn’t even on the team yet.

  91. djvh2 says:
    August 4, 2017 at 7:00 pm
    > Someone also forgot to count 5-11 without Brady starting in 2000 🙂 Whoops! Silly mistake huh?

    How can you compare how they play when Brady is out if he isn’t even on the team yet.

    He was on the team. He was not a rookie in 01. Even took some snaps during the 00 season.

    I think it’s fair game to count that year.

    🙂

  92. granadafan says:
    August 4, 2017 at 6:43 pm

    It’s the league’s business, the opposing teams’ business, and the media’s business, and the fans’ business when you lie about concussions in violation of league rules.
    —————————

    Who lied about concussions?

  93. That was only one season. They were 11-5 with Matt Cassel. If anything, that season shows how good a system BB has in place.

    They still missed the playoffs. 🙂 Mostly because they couldn’t beat good teams anymore. 1-4 against the AFC playoff field in fact. I wonder why? 🙂

    Went from near undefeated to a non playoff season without Brady despite a very easy schedule. Kind of a precipitous drop, yes?

    And don’t kid yourself… they weren’t likely making the playoffs last year either had Brady remained out. That 16-0 loss to Buffalo was not an anomaly.

    There’s nothing wrong with being objective (and accurate) by saying Brady IS the “system”.

    🙂

  94. “It’s the league’s business, the opposing teams’ business, and the media’s business, and the fans’ business when you lie about concussions in violation of league rules. You signed off on the rules when under your contract. ”

    Nowhere is those rules does it say a player has to report any injury. If a team is aware of an injury its up to them to put him on the injury report.

    And since he showed no visible concussion symptoms at any point, there was no reason for the concussion protocol doc to pull him off the field and no reason for the team to put him on the report for a concussion.

    Made up Patriot hater rules don’t count unfortunately for you so no, it’s nobody else’s business unless he showed visible signs of concussion

  95. TheWizard says:
    August 4, 2017 at 4:37 pm

    Wow, the snowflakes are melting because Tom won’t vomit his personal info to everybody.

    ———————————————————————————————–

    Pretty sure that the same individuals were duped into believing that someone should turn over a personal telephone filled with private information to prove their innocence. Guess the dupes all forgot that it’s innocent until proven guilty….not the other way around.

    Was especially funny when the NFL had to admit in court that they had no evidence….meaning the NFL had nothing that proved guilt.

    It’s also funny when people make comments where it becomes obvious that they assume that the NFL was cheated out of having smoking gun proof when Brady wiped his phone. It’s obvious that some people lack the 2 working brain cells necessary to figure out that only one phone is needed to see all the messages that were sent between 2 phones.

    When the NFL already has the 2 team owned phones along with the printed phone logs that Brady provided it means that the was no unknown information related to communication on Brady’s phone. Just personal information that the clowns were so disappointed that they would never see.

  96. “Someone also forgot to count 5-11 without Brady starting in 2000”

    Oh noes oh noes, the first year Bill came here and took over a team Pete Carroll left in total disarray with mostly lousy personnel the Pats didn’t have a good season

    Then with only one season under his belt here he got them to and won the Super Bowl three of the next four years. That’s a just plain awful job of coaching. Oh noes oh noes

  97. Could all these Pats trolls quit it with the “asterisk” comments? The only entity that could potentially apply an asterisk to their titles would be the NFL itself, and they haven’t, because there is no basis to add one. Trollers who continue to throw this out there (years after “Spygate” and “Deflategate”) need to get a life and implore the owners and GMs of their own failing teams to get with the program: an honest, well constructed, and driven one.

  98. Seriously? It’s absolutely the NFL’s business. Brady is supposed to report concussions to the team, the team should have been testing for these concussions, and the team needs to put that on the injury report. Somewhere along the line these things didn’t happen

  99. LyinRogerMustGo says:
    August 4, 2017 at 7:10 pm

    And don’t kid yourself… they weren’t likely making the playoffs last year either had Brady remained out. That 16-0 loss to Buffalo was not an anomaly.

    ————————————————————————-

    The Patriots certainly would not have made the playoffs with a rookie 3rd string QB with a damaged finger behind center.

    But I wouldn’t bet against the Patriots if they had a healthy Jimmy Garoppolo playing QB.

  100. djvh2 says:
    August 4, 2017 at 6:59 pm
    > Playoff appearances without Brady’s services: 0
    >
    > The end.

    That was only one season. They were 11-5 with Matt Cassel. If anything, that season shows how good a system BB has in place. They also missed the playoffs one season with Brady as the starter all year, in 2002.

    Ask any Vikings fan. Without Rodgers, the Packers would have no chance of even being a .500 team. I think most of us Packers fans also know that would be true.
    —————————————
    Pats were 18-1 year before that….11-5 big drop off
    Besides the Pats still had a loaded team & played a totally cup cake schedule that year compared to year they went 18-1…… Brady is GOAT
    & EVERY TEAM plays with some form of system so that excuse is only for clueless arm chair fans…. FACT

  101. Murph2432:
    Did you see Brady stumbling around a la Case Keenum and Cam Newton? Don’t know if they were even capable of reporting it to the team, but no reaction from the NFL.

  102. gonakgod says:
    August 4, 2017 at 7:22 pm

    Should be suspended 4 games at least for this comment.

    ——————————————————

    The Patriots have the best backup QB’s in the league. Which already prevented the other 31 teams from gaining the advantage in 2016 when Roger Goodell lied about science and hid the PSI report in order to give the other teams a shot at a participation trophy.

    If the NFL wants to even the playing field beyond the 2 missing draft picks that were already stolen…

    Then perhaps the NFL could spot the other 31 teams 14 points when they play against the Patriots.
    If starting the game with 14 points would be too embarrassing for the other teams…

    Then perhaps the NFL could forgo kickoffs during Patriots Games and let the other team start on the Patriots 10 yard line instead of having the Patriots do kickoffs. They could also have the Patriots start on their own 10 yard line instead of the other teams kicking off to the Patriots.

    Those rule changes would go along way to helping other teams “win” that ever elusive participation trophy.

  103. But I wouldn’t bet against the Patriots if they had a healthy Jimmy Garoppolo playing QB.

    I actually think there’s a big concern with his durability and I doubt those would have been the only games missed. Hope I’m wrong.

    . Even with Jimmy playing more games… 8-8 or 9-7 at best imo. Shows you the difference between having the GOAT and not.

  104. Pats were 18-1 year before that….11-5 big drop off

    Exactly. And the missed playoffs.

    11-5 looks impressive but it really isn’t when you see the 1-4 record against conference playoff teams and being blown out in 3 of them.

    So much for the much hyped up “system” – whatever that is.

    System QBs don’t belong in the NFL. Period. Therefore, only the completely clueless or an absolute moron would say that about the GOAT.

    🙂

  105. Tee hee 🙂 Look at all the thumbs downs over and over again incognito from the same salty Patriot Hater 🙂

    I love seeing Patriot Hater take the time to do that 🙂 It proves beyond a shadow of a doubt I’m so in their heads.

    Keep thinking of me boy 🙂 I own you 🙂

  106. I just LOVE reading those comments fro jealous fans… Thanks for the laughs!!! You guys are priceless!!!
    Whenever I’m feeling a little down,all I have to do is go to any Patfiots related thread & browze thru the envious & jealous fans & I start feeling REALLY GOOD….
    Please don’t let me down guys, I look forward to those crazy comments soooooooo much!!!!

  107. Yea, little Tommy, it is someone’s business: your team and by extension the NFL..oh absolutely it’s their business..if you had a concussion and you or team doctors or Patriot management knew, well I see suspension

  108. megnailsit says:
    August 4, 2017 at 8:01 pm
    Murph2432:
    Did you see Brady stumbling around a la Case Keenum and Cam Newton? Don’t know if they were even capable of reporting it to the team, but no reaction from the NFL.
    ————————-
    That’s why team Doctors get paid so much money. If I remember correctly the league did research on that cam ” concussion”.

  109. djvh2 says:
    August 4, 2017 at 6:13 pm

    > Except that Belichick is only 18-19 as Pats HC when Brady doesn’t start. Not a system QB, not disputable.

    Since Brady became the starter, Belichick is 13-6 when Brady doesn’t start.
    If you want to count the 0-2 start before Bledsoe was injured in 2001,
    then Belichick is still 13-8 when Brady doesn’t start.
    So maybe it is disputable. He is a great system QB though.

    Considering that the Packers have also been to the playoffs eight straight
    seasons but are 3-5-1 in the Rodgers era when Rodgers doesn’t start,
    I’d have to say it’s very obvious who the top QB in football is.

    ==============

    Belichick has had Brady on his roster from day 1 and is under .500 (18-19) when Brady doesnt start. And of the 37 games Brady didnt start, 33 were by QBS who were in Pro Bowls.

    Yet the most glaring proof of all is that Brady is STILL on the team. If anyone could fill his spot as capably as he does, Belichick would have replaced him with someone cheaper like he always does when a talented player gets too expensive (ie Seymour, Bledsoe, Vinateiri, Welker, Branch, Milloy, Law, Samuel, Jones, Collins and many others)

  110. jagmankane says:
    August 4, 2017 at 3:13 pm
    lyfordjr says:
    August 4, 2017 at 2:16 pm
    “If the team or Brady knew and didn’t report it that’s a HUGE problem.”

    If the team knew and didn’t report it, that’s a rules violation.

    If Brady knew but the team didn’t, that’s his business and his alone.
    —————————————————————————-

    If Brady had a concussion and the team’s medical experts couldn’t tell, that is a problem.

    Also… I’m wondering when Brady is EVER hit hard enough to get a concussion. Defenders sneeze around that guy and they throw penalty flags like crazy.


    Now you’re just makin up stuff. Clearly you don’t watch NE games. Tell us how many flags he got during the Denver game in 2014 and how many times he got hit, well after the ball was gone. I don’t recall a RTP flag durng SB51 and he took a lickin for 2.5 quarters.

  111. The NFL has people on the sidelines to determine if a player looks like he has been concussed. When did any of you haters see Brady stagger or get up slow or indicate to anyone that he was concussed this past season? The cameras are on Brady most of the time he is playing (and even when he’s sitting on the sidelines) and we even get to see the hits he takes up close and (several times during replay)!! None of the commentators or the professionals saw anything so why do you think he is lying? You are just haters who can’t accept greatness when you see it. You are jealous because he is a better man than you could ever be in just about everything in life.

    As for the other “cheating.” I don’t care who you are, no amount of cheating is going to manufacture the greatest comeback in NFL Super Bowl history or break as many records as Tom Brady has. Think about that for a minute haters and move on. Accept the reality that Brady is the GOAT and enjoy watching the best football you have ever seen for as long as he is playing! GO BRADY! GO PATS!!! XOXO

  112. noturavragepunk says:
    August 4, 2017 at 7:39 pm
    Seriously? It’s absolutely the NFL’s business. Brady is supposed to report concussions to the team
    _________________________

    There is nothing in the rules that requires a player to report an injury.

  113. He’s right, he doesn’t have to say anything to anyone. It’s the doctor’s job to diagnose it on the field and take him out. If the team knew, it would be they job to put him in the concussion protokoll. Brady is in this regard, old school. Gotta respect that.

  114. He treats his body like a temple! He eats avacado ice cream for goodness sakes, why would he mess with a concussion???
    He’s not about to throw his wife under the bus, he’s TB12 the GOAT , not retired #18😄.

  115. Again.

    A concussion is an injury to the brain that can be caused by a blow to the head or any whip-lash like action which caused the head and brain to shake rapidly. Period. The end.

    You don’t have to be knocked out to have a concussion. You don’t have to get a brain bruise (contusion) to have a concussion. You don’t have to suffer a hard blow to the head to get a concussion. In fact you don’t even have to be hit in the head at all to have a concussion.

    Brian Roberts of the Baltimore Orioles suffered a concussion while performing a head first dive into first base. He didn’t strike another player with his head, his head didn’t hit the ground, his head didn’t hit the base. It was merely the force of his body hitting the ground and the force making his head move rapidly back and forth that gave him his concussion and it was an issue that plagued him for years.

    So here is one poster posting that they do indeed actually know what a concussion is.

  116. Brady is right. If he wants to turn his brain into scrambled eggs that is purely his decision as long as he’s good enough to hide it from the team doctors and the people who monitor that stuff for the NFL on the sidelines, etc.

  117. noturavragepunk says:
    August 4, 2017 at 7:39 pm
    Seriously? It’s absolutely the NFL’s business. Brady is supposed to report concussions to the team, the team should have been testing for these concussions, and the team needs to put that on the injury report. Somewhere along the line these things didn’t happen.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    You said: “Brady is supposed to report concussions to the team.” That is 100% wrong. No player is under any obligation to report any injury, including a possible concussion.

  118. The HIPPA law indicates Brady is right. Moreover literally everyone from refs to media are LOOKING FOR EVIDENCE of a concussion – and can’t find any.

  119. Not one person on here actually knows what a real concussion is.
    =====

    Ever taste cerebrospinal fluid?

    I assure you, I have a pretty good idea.

    Stay off dirt bikes. A nickles worth of free advice for the day.

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