Jimmy Garoppolo stinks it up in first 2017 scrimmage

AP

It’s not quite yet time to send #Tommy floating on a sheet of ice.

Patriots quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo, heralded as the real deal and suspected by some to be the potential choice to succeed Brady as soon as 2018, had a rough time at a scrimmage on Friday. Jeff Howe of the Boston Herald describes the performance as “woeful.”

Garoppolo completed 14 of 36 passes (38.8 percent), leading his team to four field goals in nine drives.

Yes, Garoppolo didn’t have a star-studded cast of supporting characters. He nevertheless didn’t get it done, and to a certain extent it’s on him.

“You’re never happy about the incompletions, interceptions or anything like that, but it’s training camp,” Garoppolo said, via Howe. “We’ll learn from those situations. We always go back, watch the film, and just diagnose what happened and what we could do to fix that.”

Plenty of fixins may be needed before Garoppolo is ready to be the week-in, week-out option, especially since he wasn’t able to get through his four-week audition healthy in 2016.

62 responses to “Jimmy Garoppolo stinks it up in first 2017 scrimmage

  1. Lol…. Training camp reporters writing him off already…. Wonder if they were the same reporters writing off Brady & wondering if his career was over after the blowout loss to the Chiefs in 2014……. You know the year he went on to win the SuperBowl??!!
    Jimmy is out there with second team players…. This is NOTHING BUT PRESEADON FODDER….NOTHING

  2. It doesn’t seem that long ago when we fans had to wait for the newspaper and look for a few paragraphs in the middle of the sports section to get updates about summer camp. Now we have almost immediate updates with stats about practice. God, football is the only thing that makes summer coming to an end bearable.

  3. Fake news. He has never been good in practice, since he was drafted. He has always been better in preseason and real games, nothing new. Likely it’s a result of playing with 2’s and 3’s receivers and backs.

  4. No, he ain’t the goat, but you forget in a real away game last Sept he led the Pats (minus Gronk, minus Nink and a cpuple of others) to a win against a full-strength opposition in Arizona that Arians recently said broke the Cardinals’ season.

  5. Well, duh. This is TB12 we are talking about.

    Plus, I believe Brady was going against the second string defense, while Garoppolo got the first string defense, which is likely to be pretty good this year, too.

  6. Good, Belichick loves handing out humble pie to everyone before the season starts. Good for finding truly competitive people. Remember, the Lions lit everyone up and went 4-0 the preseason before going 0-16.

  7. But how is that possible?! Overrated system qb, this should deflate some patriots sized heads. Should have jumped on any picks you were offered while they had the chance.

  8. billswillnevermove says:
    August 5, 2017 at 1:20 pm
    I still think career backup, I could be wrong.
    ———————————————–
    Your track record agrees with you.

  9. He stunk it up in a scrimmage. Brady has too, so has Manning, Fouts, Elway, Marino, Rodgers, etc. I’m not saying he’s THOSE GUYS, but the comments here are way too reactive based on one scrimmage. He’ll be fine.

  10. What he did against Miami last season was phenomenal — before his injury. I think that gives you a better read on his ceiling than scrimmaging against his own Super Bowl defense.

  11. You know, I live in Boston. I heard all the hyperventilating reportage from the usual suspects… who, by the way DAILY trash the team, the coach, the players… for a ratings driven talk radio rage-a-thon.

    It occurred to me that there may be something all the geniuses have overlooked, and is a positive takeaway:
    NE’s defense just got better. And now, the QBs are having trouble beating them.

    But no one sees that side of the ball… it can only mean that JG is crapola, blah blah blah…

    I think not.

  12. Patriots absolutely should have traded him when they had the chance. His value was maximized this off season. Mr. Garoppolo is extremely overrated. He is a suitable backup for the Patriots because , should he be needed , he will have very good players around him at every position.

  13. His leading target was Austin Carr, undrafted free agent out of Northwestern. He was throwing the ball away all scrimmage because no one was open.

  14. He looked pretty damn good running with the first string against Miami and Arizona in actual games where he was shredding those defenses.

    Let the Pat haters have this though, they get so little out of life.

  15. If a scrub like Garoppolo could go 2-0 in the regular season, or a scrub like Matt Cassell could go 11-5 in the regular season, what does that say about the Patriots system? It is the greatest in the history of the league. Debate over folks.

  16. He’ll do better once he has film of the other team’s defense. Let pretend it didn’t happpen, k?

  17. Just like Matt Cassel who did well with the entire Pats organization cheating to help him win. But when these guys have to play for a team with integrity, they fail.

  18. waldoampere says:
    August 5, 2017 at 1:02 pm
    It doesn’t seem that long ago when we fans had to wait for the newspaper and look for a few paragraphs in the middle of the sports section to get updates about summer camp. Now we have almost immediate updates with stats about practice. God, football is the only thing that makes summer coming to an end bearable.
    _______________________________________________________

    Completely and absolutely EXACTLY the way I feel.

  19. It’s August 5th. The games don’t count yet. Belichick has been watching this guy for years, so he’s not making evaluations based on one day. What Bill would like to do, I’m sure, is put Garoppolo in decent spots so that he can increase his trade value. I’m sure Belichick figures he can draft a young QB that’s better than Jimmy. Guys like Carr (2nd round) and Prescott (4th round) are available every year after round one. Or he can acquire a guy like Conner Cook (4th round), who could end up winning multiple super bowls under Belichick’s guidance. Garoppolo is not a great QB, and Belichick knows that better than anyone.

  20. as I understand it he’s always been one of those players thats mediocre in practice and much better during the real thing. Kind of the opposite of those players that light the world up in practice and are useless in real games.

  21. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    August 5, 2017 at 2:04 pm
    If a scrub like Garoppolo could go 2-0 in the regular season, or a scrub like Matt Cassell could go 11-5 in the regular season, what does that say about the Patriots system? It is the greatest in the history of the league. Debate over folks.
    ______________________

    LOL, you crack me up
    What it says is the exact opposite of what you think it does. If that ‘system’ is infallible as you claim it shouldn’t have mattered who was throwing the ball or who it was being thrown to, it should have yielded success. Thank you for being you and providing the comic relief you serve up like clockwork. And thanks in particular for being incapable of realizing you just did it again in the face of an article that proves the exact opposite… priceless.

  22. “He’ll do better once he has film of the other team’s defense. ”

    Since every team has film of every other team’s defense there’s nothing to deny.

    SMH at the most stupid thing I’ll read all day

  23. Lol…. Training camp reporters writing him off already…. Wonder if they were the same reporters writing off Brady & wondering if his career was over after the blowout loss to the Chiefs in 2014……. You know the year he went on to win the SuperBowl??!!
    Jimmy is out there with second team players…. This is NOTHING BUT PRESEADON FODDER….NOTHIN

    So we can’t comment negatively after 1
    Bad preseason practice but you can anoint him scorn best qb in division after 1 game? Got it

  24. My best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s brother’s girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who’s going with the girl who saw Jimmy G. pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it’s pretty serious.

  25. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    August 5, 2017 at 2:04 pm
    If a scrub like Garoppolo could go 2-0 in the regular season, or a scrub like Matt Cassell could go 11-5 in the regular season, what does that say about the Patriots system? It is the greatest in the history of the league. Debate over folks.
    ——–
    Going through life logging into a football website with a fake name instead a real name, perhaps rooting for your own team, is as sad as it gets.

    18-1 to 11-5, that was your drop off with Matt cassel, significant.

    Or maybe Cassell was good right? He did take the Chiefs to the playoffs. And it wasn’t until his shoulder injury when his production dropped off.

  26. I was at the Cardinals game. He looked great. The other day in practice he made some mistakes. Whe. Asked about it he replied” it’s pre season you try some things out that you would’nt in a game, learning experience. Practicing to get better.

  27. Carl Hungus says:
    August 5, 2017 at 3:31 pm
    It all ends 11/19/17 in Mexico
    —————-
    Thank you trolls for providing some entertainment from now until the Patriots play a meaningful game again next February.

    -Patriot Nation

  28. I think all this hype stemmed with Schefter who was adamant that Bill believes Jimmy to be the heir apparent. Since then, people have constantly used fallacious reasoning to “prove” this belief. It goes like this: IF Bill didn’t think Jimmy is the QB of the future he would have traded him but he didn’t therefore obviously Bill thinks Jimmy is the QB of the future.

    What many fail to realize is that Jimmy is the best backup the Patriots can have at this moment and if Brady misses a few games or falls off a cliff, the team would rather have Jimmy or an extra or two draft picks.

    Unfortunately for Jimmy and his camp, this also raises the expectations about him unfairly. He might become a great QB someday but right now he is just a good backup who isn’t even competing with the 40 year old starter and has 1.5 games that give a glimpse at his potential but hasn’t proved yet to be better than Matt Flynn.

  29. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    August 5, 2017 at 2:04 pm
    If a scrub like Garoppolo could go 2-0 in the regular season, or a scrub like Matt Cassell could go 11-5 in the regular season, what does that say about the Patriots system? It is the greatest in the history of the league. Debate over folks.

    Yet you bring it up almost daily.

  30. So a scrimmage in pre season trumps his actual in game regular play from last year when he was Brady-like and the team went 2-0. Gotcha.

  31. The Pats are loaded for another Super Bowl run…..they had absolutely no need to trade away Jimmy for anything less than what would have been an offer just too good to refuse…. Now they have the best situation in football as far as insurance goes for Brady…..it wouldn’t surprise meat all to see him franchised next year & traded if they like the way Brissett developes over this, his second season as a Patriot…Pats are sitting in the absolute best position they can be & that has just got to be killing the owners/coaches/players/fans of other teams….
    What’s awesome is this TEAM is only going to get better as the season goes on as their chemistry develops….GRONK is back this year & COOKS is now on the team…..my head is spinning just thinking about the possibilities & the D is going to be lethal….I’m so happy the Pats kept Jimmy for insurance but I really hope he’s not needed for anything but slop time clean up duty…..
    Go Pats!!!!

  32. markpags says:
    August 5, 2017 at 5:58 pm
    My best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s brother’s girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who’s going with the girl who saw Jimmy G. pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it’s pretty serious.


    Simone > Sloane

    🙂

  33. Can any pats fan name me a player that left the patriots and succeeded some where else. I just looked you know the last time the pats had more than 4 losses in a season? 2009 I don’t care what you say something just doesn’t add up. Yeah would I love for the Bucs to have that kind of success yes. But how can they dominate every year with other teams cast offs. And trade average players every year for first round picks. You can say what you want but they have been caught cheating. Filming practices and stealing defensive play calls is a huge deal. But I can even admit that playing with and under inflated ball isn’t a big deal he still has to throw it with pin point accuracy and the receiver still has to catch it. But holy cow saying Brady is the greatest of all time. Yeas he is the greatest system qb of all time. You yourselves in above comments just said how great jimmy was against Arizona and Miami. ANd how awesome cassell was going 11-5. How was cassell in every other stop. Average at best. Enjoy it while the rest of the league envies and hates you.

  34. I don’t see how the Pats are in a great position. Jimmy is a free agent after this season and, barring an injury to Brady, won’t see the field beyond practices, scrimmages, and preseason games. By showing poorly in his few opportunities to play, he is hurting any value he had from last year. Not to mention, because he will be a free agent, no one will be in a rush to trade valuable picks and or other players when they can just wait to sign him as a free agent when the new league year begins. There is also no way the Pats will pay all that money to franchise him, especially if he is not showing well in his limited time. If they do, they are not that bright, because no time will part with the draft capital it would take to sign a tagged player. The best thing Jimmy can do is play great. This will increase his trade value again, though not much cause teams can still just wait to sign him as a free agent, and force teams into a bidding war for his services as a free agent.

  35. kissbillsrings says:
    August 5, 2017 at 10:35 pm

    The Pats are loaded for another Super Bowl run…..
    & COOKS is now on the team…. my head is spinning just thinking about the possibilities & the D is going to be lethal

    ————————————————————
    I agree…the Patriots defense is going to be incredible this season. Pass rush and interceptions and lots of punting by the other teams.

    I believe that Cooks is going to be similar to what Deion Branch was for the Pats.

    Found an interesting video online.
    It’s on the popular online video site and the title is “Top40 Tom Brady’s longest touchdown passes”.

    The passes shown in this video may be an indicator of what we will see in the 2017 season. Below are the passes from the current players. If you substitute Cooks for Deion Branch you may get an idea of what the highlights might look like in 2017. I believe that Cooks will be much more like Branch than Moss unless he grows a few inches and gets faster in the next couple of months.

    39 – 52-yd to Gronk
    38 – 53-yd to Chris Hogan
    37 – 53-yd to Gronk
    33 – 56-yd to Malcolm Mitchell
    31 – 56-yd to Edleman
    27 – 59-yd to Edleman
    26 – 59-yd to Deion Branch
    24 – 60-yd to Deion Branch
    23 – 61-yd to Deion Branch
    21 – 63-yd to Brandon Bolden
    14 – 66-yd to Deion Branch
    13 – 69-yd to Edleman
    10 – 76-yd to Gronk
    09 – 77-yd to Edleman
    08 – 79-yd to Chris Hogan
    07 – 79-yd to Deion Branch

  36. this is definitely no big deal.

    Unlike all the obnoxious and classless Pats fans, I have no desire to troll posts for the Pats and rub it in when something bad happens.

  37. factpurveyor says:
    August 6, 2017 at 8:32 am

    Found an interesting video online.
    It’s on the popular online video site and the title is “Top40 Tom Brady’s longest touchdown passes”.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Thanks for the reference. That is a nice compilation.
    Too bad that Brady never throws the ball deep, right?
    SMH at the Brady haters.

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