Arbitrator selection will be most important step in Ezekiel Elliott case

AP

Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliot will appeal his six-game suspension. When he does, the NFL’s next step becomes a critical one.

Commissioner Roger Goodell will have to decide whether to personally handle the appeal, whether to designate it to a league employee, whether to assign it to an “independent” person deemed friendly to league interests, or whether to hand the baton to a truly independent arbitrator.

That decision will have a significant impact on the outcome. If the Commissioner handles the appeal of the decision the Commissioner already made, it’s hard to imagine him changing his mind. Indeed, in recent years the language characterizing the appeal process has subtly morphed from ensuring the initial decision was correct to giving the player one last chance to introduce new evidence that would possibly change Goodell’s mind.

That’s not how appeals should work. And the fact that the Commissioner already made the decision to suspend Elliott six games could make it easier for Elliott, the NFL Players Association, and/or Cowboys owner Jerry Jones to argue that Goodell should designate a truly independent arbitrator to take a fresh look at the case and to determine whether Goodell got it right.

If Jones is truly furious over the suspension, he could best channel that fury by pressuring Goodell to let someone who hasn’t already formed an opinion on the case — and someone who will feel no express or implied compulsion to rubber stamp the Commissioner’s decision — to handle the appeal. And there’s good reason for Jones to push for true independence; the last two times Goodell delegated an appeal to a truly independent arbitrator (Ray Rice in 2014, Saints bounty scandal in 2012), the arbitrator scrapped the suspensions.

However it plays out, the identification of the arbitrator isn’t just the next step in the process, but arguably the most important.

62 responses to “Arbitrator selection will be most important step in Ezekiel Elliott case

  1. Handle it just like the Brady fiasco!!! Jerry Jones was so supportive then he can reap what he helped sow!!!!

  2. Article 46. Case closed. It gives Roger the dodger ultimate power to do as he pleases. Brady wasn’t suspended for deflating footballs. The court proved that there was no evidence. He was suspended because the owners wanted to stop the Patriot train from rolling along.
    Now if Roger truly does not want to alienate another powerful owner, he will appoint a truly independent arbiter. Even if the suspension is reduced or eliminated, he can still say he did his job, and not make another owner enemy.

  3. whether to assign it to an “independent” person deemed friendly to league interests, or whether to hand the baton to a truly independent arbitrator.

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    So really, no matter what Goodell does, unless the suspension is overturned, you are going to paint it as a corrupt process.

  4. The accusers bruises were caused by her cat fight with ANOTHER GIRL… The NFL is way out of line on this and will be exposed as such if this gets handed to a truly impartial, independent arbitrator… so that’s not gonna happen.

  5. “Commissioner Roger Goodell will have to decide whether to personally handle the appeal, whether to designate it to a league employee, whether to assign it to an “independent” person deemed friendly to league interests, or whether to hand the baton to a truly independent arbitrator.”

    Now that’s funny. In what bizarro alternate universe do you think Goodell would pass something off to a “truly independent arbitrator” ?

  6. I got my front row seat and watching this. Jerry is pissed, the man hasn’t been seen or heard from since this news broke. At this point I just want Goodell hammered like one of them melons that Gallagher has gotten to.

  7. eagleswin says:
    August 14, 2017 at 10:33 am

    So really, no matter what Goodell does, unless the suspension is overturned, you are going to paint it as a corrupt process.
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    If Goodell is involved in the process, it will be corrupt. Didn’t you learn anything from Psigate?

  8. brwmstr says:
    August 14, 2017 at 10:29 am
    Handle it just like the Brady fiasco!!! Jerry Jones was so supportive then he can reap what he helped sow!!!!

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    Get over it…..geeze, they won the SB……let it go! Never seen a more sensitive fan base in my life. They can turn any topic into how they got screwed out of something.

  9. Everything Goodell does is capricious and mismanaged. He needs to go to restore any sense of league credibility and integrity. This is true regardless of Elliott’s guilt or innocence or whether you love or hate a particular team.

  10. eagleswin says:
    August 14, 2017 at 10:33 am
    whether to assign it to an “independent” person deemed friendly to league interests, or whether to hand the baton to a truly independent arbitrator.

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    So really, no matter what Goodell does, unless the suspension is overturned, you are going to paint it as a corrupt process.

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    Have you been in a coma? Yes!

    Why don’t you ask why Goodell did not want to suspend Ray Rice instead of asking Pats fans such dumb questions.

  11. weeteblog says:
    August 14, 2017 at 10:54 am
    brwmstr says:
    August 14, 2017 at 10:29 am
    Handle it just like the Brady fiasco!!! Jerry Jones was so supportive then he can reap what he helped sow!!!!

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    Get over it…..geeze, they won the SB……let it go! Never seen a more sensitive fan base in my life. They can turn any topic into how they got screwed out of something.

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    Umm, how would you like it if the players (or coaches) on the team you rooted for were being defamed and cheated for their hard work?

    You can’t be supportive of Goodell unless you support his corruption and cheating. So, just admit there was no Spygate or Deflategate, and it’s something Goodell lied about in order to justify the severity of the his punishments.

    Admit it and we’ll walk away, but as long as people like you ignore the facts and reality of what he’s doing, we will never let you hear the end of it.

  12. If I had to guess I would say it ends up being 4 weeks. No way he gets off free. He has three incidents they looked at the past year, he was a very bad boy.
    For his own sake six and no pay may wise him up. Dont get caught!

  13. The players union agreed to the terms. The commissioner has the power. End of story. Come and appeal to the guy who already made the decision but they had better have more evidence otherwise he should impose a longer suspension for wasting everyone’s time.

  14. weeteblog-funny cause during deflate gate you posted all the time Brady should be Banned for life. Now you wanna preach get over it? You can’t throw stones for 8 months and then expect not to get some thrown back at ya.

  15. Commissioner Roger Goodell will have to decide whether to personally handle the appeal, whether to designate it to a league employee, whether to assign it to an “independent” person deemed friendly to league interests, or whether to hand the baton to a truly independent arbitrator.
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    Goodell, Transparency, and Integrity…Three words that just don’t seem to mesh well together.
    Good luck Jerry, you’ve already had a taste of Goodell’s justice with Salary Cap Gate…Now you’re going to understand how the Saints, Dolphins, Redskins, Patriots, and Chiefs felt with Goodells “JUSTICE.”

  16. the last two times Goodell delegated an appeal to a truly independent arbitrator (Ray Rice in 2014, Saints bounty scandal in 2012), the arbitrator scrapped the suspensions.

    I guess the arbitrator that reviewed the Ray Rice case didn’t believe the video.

  17. Just Google “Ayrin Mason Affidavit”…she’s the friend of the alleged victim that told police the bruises happened in an earlier bar fight, and got a text from the ‘victim’ saying tell the police that Ezekiel hit me. The Affidavit is a public document.

  18. cmonitsfunny says:
    August 14, 2017 at 11:05 am

    the last two times Goodell delegated an appeal to a truly independent arbitrator (Ray Rice in 2014, Saints bounty scandal in 2012), the arbitrator scrapped the suspensions.

    I guess the arbitrator that reviewed the Ray Rice case didn’t believe the video.
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    Ray Rice got his indefinite suspension overturned because the lying idiot Goodell had already suspended him for 2 games. It’s hard to comprehend how badly Goodell botched that Ray Rice situation. He should have been fired for it.

  19. So here is my overall issue with this…..the accusers actions really do not add up for me. Lets take her at word and believe that Elliott beat her several times over 5 days to the point she took pictures of her bruises. Knowing that I have proof that he did it by way of the pictures……why would I need to lie about the now infamous “party” abuse? Why, knowing that I have all the proof I need, would I create a scene, tell him I would ruin his career, lie to the police about him pulling me out of a car and beating me, text my friend and ask her to lie to the police about what happened?

    If not for that incident where she lied, where she asked her friend to lie….I’d be all for this punishment. You had the “proof” from the prior incidents….why make up a incident that didnt happen if you have 3 or 4 others that did and you can prove it?

  20. “Goodell is in Jerry’s pocket.”

    Disagree. If he was then there would have been no capgate and the Cowboys and Redskins would not have had cap space stolen from them by Goodell.

  21. atthemurph says:
    August 14, 2017 at 11:02 am
    The players union agreed to the terms. The commissioner has the power. End of story. Come and appeal to the guy who already made the decision but they had better have more evidence otherwise he should impose a longer suspension for wasting everyone’s time.

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    No one has EVER seen the commissioner bastardize Article 46. The union absolutely DID NOT agree to the idea that the commissioner would be judge, jury and executioner. As Judge Berman said, he wasn’t sure Goodell understood the concept of a Collective Bargaining Agreement.

    Neither Rozelle nor Tagliabue ever used Article 46 in such a way, so there is no way on earth the union (or any educated adult), could have predicted Goodell would be doing this as a way to get results as he wants.

    Get it?

    So, stop saying “the union agreed to it”…They did not agree to have their clients railroaded, lied about, defamed and have money stolen for no reason other than to produce the image Goodell wants produced. No, the union did not agree to that whatsoever.

  22. a1b24312 says:
    August 14, 2017 at 10:42 am
    He’ll pass it to someone. He will not handle it himself. Perhaps Paul Tagliabue.
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    Goodell picked Tagliabue to decide the appeals of the Saints players in the Bountygate case, and he overturned all of the player’s suspensions. I don’t think Goodell wants that to happen again.

  23. rudywasoffsides says:
    August 14, 2017 at 11:11 am
    Just Google “Ayrin Mason Affidavit”…she’s the friend of the alleged victim that told police the bruises happened in an earlier bar fight, and got a text from the ‘victim’ saying tell the police that Ezekiel hit me. The Affidavit is a public document.

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    How Goodell thinks he can get away with this, I have no idea.

    It’s just unbelievable.

  24. elvis2013 says:
    August 14, 2017 at 10:31 am
    I will enjoy looking back at this moment as the end of days for Goodell’s miserably failed term as commish.

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    I thought that would have occurred when he lied about Ray Rice twice, and then acted like he didn’t.

    Has the media ever asked Goodell why he lied twice so brazenly about what Ray Rice did and confessed to?

  25. tylawspick6 says:
    August 14, 2017 at 10:53 am

    Arrest, try and convict Roger Goodell.

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    Tom Brady — a great quarterback — cheated and tarnished the NFL.

  26. realityonetwo says:
    August 14, 2017 at 11:42 am
    tylawspick6 says:
    August 14, 2017 at 10:53 am

    Arrest, try and convict Roger Goodell.

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    Tom Brady — a great quarterback — cheated and tarnished the NFL.

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    Yeah, and the boogeyman dropped into the elevator and knocked out Ray Rice’s fiancee, too, because Goodell implied that’s what must have happened.

    lol

    Do you believe in the tooth fairy, too?

  27. tylawspick6 says:
    August 14, 2017 at 11:26 am:

    No one has EVER seen the commissioner bastardize Article 46. The union absolutely DID NOT agree to the idea that the commissioner would be judge, jury and executioner. As Judge Berman said, he wasn’t sure Goodell understood the concept of a Collective Bargaining Agreement.

    Neither Rozelle nor Tagliabue ever used Article 46 in such a way, so there is no way on earth the union (or any educated adult), could have predicted Goodell would be doing this as a way to get results as he wants.

    Get it?

    So, stop saying “the union agreed to it”…They did not agree to have their clients railroaded, lied about, defamed and have money stolen for no reason other than to produce the image Goodell wants produced. No, the union did not agree to that whatsoever.

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    Um, the the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit disagrees with you.

  28. The NFL’s idea about fairness is have the appeal be heard from the guy who handed out the punishment ? I can’t imagine what that would be like in the actual criminal court. The case should be assigned to an independent arbitrator to review the entire case.

  29. So what you are basically saying is that an arbitrator can only be deemed truly independent if he/she voids the suspension.

    I think the arbitrator got it wrong with Bountygate, and let Rice (who was obviously guilty) off on a technicality.

  30. Roger Goodell’s contract ends at the conclusion of the 2018 season or roughly March 2019. The countdown is officially on. This is setting up to be pretty fun to watch Jones and Kraft team up against Mara and Rooney to set the path for the future of the league. I can’t see hoe Goodell possibly survives and gets a new extension. I think you are going to see Kraft and Jones support a former player who has been incredibly successful in business or someone like Condoleeza Rice who is currently on the BCS committee. Getting NFLPA on board with anything will be tough considering I don’t see influential guys like Brees and Brady being as “helpful” as they were last negotiation nor do I see current player reps and NFLPA exec committee members like Richard Sherman, Thomas Davis, Adam Vinatieri or Matt Hasselbeck giving Roger any needed support.

  31. Ahhhh, the appeal. The last desperate gasp from a condemmed man. Come on Zeke, youre a tough guy, take your suspension like a man.

    I wonder if an arbitrator has the option to increase a suspension? That would be sweet and send a clear message to Jerrys Junkies and Felons that beating up women, killing team mates while driving drunk, doing illegal drugs, punchimg out disc jockeys and sexually assaultimg women will not be tolerated and will be punished severely.

    If deflatimg a football and tossing a cellphone is worth 4 games, why is pounding on a woman, sexually assaultimg another, speeding excessively and breaking someones nose only deemed worthy of 6?

    Give em 10, animals belong locked in a cage, not on an NFL football field.

    I must have missed Jason Garretts press conference announcing Elliotts release from the Cowboys. Surely he doesnt fit the culture they are striving for. Or does he?

    Cowboys are a bloody joke. They should build a prison next to the stadium so the players on day parole can go to practice and still be back in their cells by 5pm.

  32. cwwgk says:
    August 14, 2017 at 11:54 am
    tylawspick6 says:
    August 14, 2017 at 11:26 am:

    No one has EVER seen the commissioner bastardize Article 46. The union absolutely DID NOT agree to the idea that the commissioner would be judge, jury and executioner. As Judge Berman said, he wasn’t sure Goodell understood the concept of a Collective Bargaining Agreement.

    Neither Rozelle nor Tagliabue ever used Article 46 in such a way, so there is no way on earth the union (or any educated adult), could have predicted Goodell would be doing this as a way to get results as he wants.

    Get it?

    So, stop saying “the union agreed to it”…They did not agree to have their clients railroaded, lied about, defamed and have money stolen for no reason other than to produce the image Goodell wants produced. No, the union did not agree to that whatsoever.

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    Um, the the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit disagrees with you.

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    I think you mean Goodell paid off Judge Chin.

    The NFL admitted in a court of law they had no evidence and Goodell “appealed” based on Article 46, using it even if he was caught lying. So, he admitted in a court that he doesn’t care if he framed Brady. Get it?

    So, I really don’t care how many judges he’s paid off. The truth is, Goodell is a liar, corrupt and has compromised his position as commissioner.

    Corruption is everywhere, it doesn’t mean people should support it.

  33. staffordisbetterthanyourteamsqb says:
    August 14, 2017 at 11:49 am
    You Pats fans are the biggest crybabies in the world. You never stop whining about Goodell

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    You Detroit fans are clueless thinking your team will ever even sniff a Super Bowl by fielding mediocre teams every year.

    As for Goodell, anyone who supports corruption is corrupt themselves.

  34. tylawspick6 says:
    August 14, 2017 at 11:34 am

    How Goodell thinks he can get away with this, I have no idea.

    It’s just unbelievable.
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    It’s pretty obvious by now that the owners care very little about public perception and integrity. They will make their money no matter what that bozo does.

  35. mmack66 says:
    August 14, 2017 at 12:10 pm
    tylawspick6 says:
    August 14, 2017 at 11:34 am

    How Goodell thinks he can get away with this, I have no idea.

    It’s just unbelievable.
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    It’s pretty obvious by now that the owners care very little about public perception and integrity. They will make their money no matter what that bozo does.

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    In all honesty, with ratings dropping last year so much, and them lying about the WHY, they did drop, I think those ratings dropped because Goodell still suspended Brady.

    I think fans are sick and tired of being treated like complete fools, being served a crappier product than years ago, and they now see right through him.

    I think that is why ratings dropped.

    I also think this gives them awful leverage going into a new CBA in 2019 because the tv market has change so much since 2010/2011.

    It will also be hard to gain any momentum to expand into Europe or China, if the fans in North America start to fall off.

    If those ratings stay down, that will get the owners’ attention.

  36. grogansheroes says:
    August 14, 2017 at 10:33 am
    Brady wasn’t suspended for deflating footballs. The court proved that there was no evidence. He was suspended because the owners wanted to stop the Patriot train from rolling along.
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    No matter how it started out the league went to the wall on the Brady suspension to get the precedent they now have available to make any court case under Article 46 a a done deal. That’s a pretty big club to hold over a player’s head. The appeal hearing itself is now the the player’s only real chance and the league office can easily stack that as well. Don’t kid yourself there was a lot more at stake in the Brady case than slipping it to the Pats, in fact that was just a little bonus for them.

  37. friedmike says:
    August 14, 2017 at 12:02 pm
    Roger Goodell’s contract ends at the conclusion of the 2018 season or roughly March 2019. The countdown is officially on. This is setting up to be pretty fun to watch Jones and Kraft team up against Mara and Rooney to set the path for the future of the league. I can’t see hoe Goodell possibly survives and gets a new extension. I think you are going to see Kraft and Jones support a former player who has been incredibly successful in business or someone like Condoleeza Rice who is currently on the BCS committee. Getting NFLPA on board with anything will be tough considering I don’t see influential guys like Brees and Brady being as “helpful” as they were last negotiation nor do I see current player reps and NFLPA exec committee members like Richard Sherman, Thomas Davis, Adam Vinatieri or Matt Hasselbeck giving Roger any needed support.

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    It would be awesome and it’s certainly possible at this point. The main reason why Goodell cheated the Pats again, was to try to recapture parity, so he could finally get Jax to move to London.

    I don’t trust John Mara, though. I don’t the Rooneys are thrilled with Goodell either.

    But, Mara, Woofy Johnson, Irsay, Bisciotti, maybe McNair…Those are the key cheaters that’d need to be slapped in order to remove Goodell.

  38. Ron Jull says:
    August 14, 2017 at 12:06 pm
    Ahhhh, the appeal. The last desperate gasp from a condemmed man. Come on Zeke, youre a tough guy, take your suspension like a man.

    I wonder if an arbitrator has the option to increase a suspension? That would be sweet and send a clear message to Jerrys Junkies and Felons that beating up women, killing team mates while driving drunk, doing illegal drugs, punchimg out disc jockeys and sexually assaultimg women will not be tolerated and will be punished severely.

    If deflatimg a football and tossing a cellphone is worth 4 games, why is pounding on a woman, sexually assaultimg another, speeding excessively and breaking someones nose only deemed worthy of 6?

    Give em 10, animals belong locked in a cage, not on an NFL football field.

    I must have missed Jason Garretts press conference announcing Elliotts release from the Cowboys. Surely he doesnt fit the culture they are striving for. Or does he?

    Cowboys are a bloody joke. They should build a prison next to the stadium so the players on day parole can go to practice and still be back in their cells by 5pm.

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    Why should anyone be suspened, defamed or have money stolen from them in this country, if they are innocent?

    Listen to yourself.

    Brady did not “destroy” a phone and he did not deflate any balls or tell someone to orchestrate such a thing.

    This was proven in a court of law.

    Your problem is, you haven’t gotten to the point in understanding Goodell is a pathological liar.

  39. tylawspick6 says:
    August 14, 2017 at 11:02 am
    weeteblog says:
    August 14, 2017 at 10:54 am
    brwmstr says:
    August 14, 2017 at 10:29 am
    Handle it just like the Brady fiasco!!! Jerry Jones was so supportive then he can reap what he helped sow!!!!

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    Get over it…..geeze, they won the SB……let it go! Never seen a more sensitive fan base in my life. They can turn any topic into how they got screwed out of something.

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    Umm, how would you like it if the players (or coaches) on the team you rooted for were being defamed and cheated for their hard work?

    You can’t be supportive of Goodell unless you support his corruption and cheating. So, just admit there was no Spygate or Deflategate, and it’s something Goodell lied about in order to justify the severity of the his punishments.

    Admit it and we’ll walk away, but as long as people like you ignore the facts and reality of what he’s doing, we will never let you hear the end of it.

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    First off, what does me admitting to anything do for you or other Patriots fans? Second, this story isnt about Brady, the Patriots or Footballs. Do the fans of the other 31 teams have to suffer from crying Patriots fans every time Goodell is mentioned in relation their favorite team? This story is about Zeke Elliott, not deflated footballs, Tom Brady or cheating…..so wait for a topic regarding those topics and then continue your crying.

    Lastly and most importantly, the Patriots won the SB, be happy….but by all means….stop crying about how that ole mean Roger Goodell screwed all of New England and Golden Boy Tom Brady. Was he screwed….probably…..that was 2016….we are in 2017 now and its time to move on!

  40. Deplorable Ernie says:
    August 14, 2017 at 11:02 am
    If I had to guess I would say it ends up being 4 weeks. No way he gets off free. He has three incidents they looked at the past year, he was a very bad boy.
    For his own sake six and no pay may wise him up. Dont get caught!
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    Don’t get caught? Hey, is this Chris Carter posting other a fake name? What, the whole fall guy excuse didn’t work out for you? Going with Plan B? Don’t get caught? Really? How about don’t do stupid adolescent things to women? Maybe even try treating them with respect and class? Don’t get caught. God help us.

  41. First off, what does me admitting to anything do for you or other Patriots fans? Second, this story isnt about Brady, the Patriots or Footballs. Do the fans of the other 31 teams have to suffer from crying Patriots fans every time Goodell is mentioned in relation their favorite team? This story is about Zeke Elliott, not deflated footballs, Tom Brady or cheating…..so wait for a topic regarding those topics and then continue your crying.

    Lastly and most importantly, the Patriots won the SB, be happy….but by all means….stop crying about how that ole mean Roger Goodell screwed all of New England and Golden Boy Tom Brady. Was he screwed….probably…..that was 2016….we are in 2017 now and its time to move on!

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    1. We always got screwed for Framegate I (“Spygate), so it’s not just the latest framejob that is the issue….So, please stop telling us to forget. We lost a perect season over it, because it allowed for people with an agenda to continue making up lies after the team was so unfairly punished from the lie.

    2. IN SB 46, it sure would have been nice to have our other 2008 1st rd pick floating around on the field to beat the Giants then, too, but Mara and Goodell set that up pretty well, huh?

    So, if your team was unfairly being defamed and distracted, you might have a different position based on principle alone.

    It’s not right for a commissioner to collude with other owners to manipulate what should a fair, competitive balance in the league.

  42. Yeah, because asking for a truly independent arbitrator worked out so well for Brady and the Patriots. It’s Goodell’s show and he’s pulling all the strings. Everyone said Goodell was fair and had no reason to lie when it was Brady in front of the firing squad… ain’t so fun when it’s your player, is it?

  43. grogansheroes says:
    August 14, 2017 at 10:33 am
    Article 46. Case closed. It gives Roger the dodger ultimate power to do as he pleases. Brady wasn’t suspended for deflating footballs. The court proved that there was no evidence. He was suspended because the owners wanted to stop the Patriot train from rolling along.
    Now if Roger truly does not want to alienate another powerful owner, he will appoint a truly independent arbiter. Even if the suspension is reduced or eliminated, he can still say he did his job, and not make another owner enemy.
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    I don’t think it was b/c the owners wanted to stop the Patriots. Brady won the first appeal as it focuesed on evidence and Wells admitted he had no real evidence. Goodell won the second appeal as it focused on Goodell’s rights under the CBA, irrespective of evidence.

  44. Rhode Island Patriots Fan says:
    August 14, 2017 at 1:01 pm

    In my opinion, the Commissioner or his designee should not hear Article 46 appeals. Instead, that section of the NFL’s CBA should be amended to allow for a truly independent, third-party arbitrator—a former federal district court judge, for example—to either affirm the Commissioner’s ruling, or reduce/vacate the suspension. That’s the best way to ensure public confidence in the game of professional football.
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    Goodell just spent millions of dollars, and bribed 2 Federal Appeals Court judges, to attain god power. Why would he give that up now?

  45. Goodell has few skills, but he is good at political manipulation and playing favorites. So he imposes a six game suspension in order to appear tough, and Jones plays along with an enraged reaction (I’m not suggesting they planned this, but I think it’s entirely possible that there is an unspoken understanding as to how things will proceed). Then Goodell appoints an arbitrator to handle the appeal, anticipating the suspension will be substantially reduced. So from Goodell’s view: a) he wins, because he appears to be tough on domestic violence, and not kowtowing to Jones, b) Jones wins, because his star gets a reduced suspension. And nobody has to sit down and plan out their roles and statements in advance, as long as everyone simply shares the same expectation as to how the scenario will play out. Do I think Goodell is so devious and underhanded so to actually conduct himself this way? Absolutely.

  46. tylawspick6 says:
    August 14, 2017 at 11:26 am:

    As Judge Berman said, he wasn’t sure Goodell understood the concept of a Collective Bargaining Agreement.
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    That was the Minnesota Federal judge that said that, when Goodell was there for his contempt of court hearing.

  47. This is the problem with what NFL discipline has become. First off, it’s selective and inconsistent, which is enough of a problem. More importantly, it seems to be increasingly based on public-relations concerns, and issued by someone whose reputation is at stake with every PR move.

    That’s two forms of conflict of interest, and two big disincentives for any disciplinary measure to be retracted or abused.

    Add the yper-scrutiny of social media which makes any move a wrong move, and you have a recipe for a huge mess.

  48. grandsonofcoach says:
    August 14, 2017 at 11:55 am

    So what you are basically saying is that an arbitrator can only be deemed truly independent if he/she voids the suspension.

    I think the arbitrator got it wrong with Bountygate, and let Rice (who was obviously guilty) off on a technicality.
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    What he is saying that the arbitrator can’t be truly independent, when he was the one that made the ruling in the first place. It was made clear at the Brady appeal hearing that Goodell can’t remain impartial.

    Goodell tried to get away with suspending Rice a second time, after the video was made public. Overturning it was the proper move.

    It would be better for everyone involved if Goodell were to remove himself from any matters pertaining to discipline.

  49. Selecting the arbitrator will be a pretty easy process.

    Roger will look into a mirror and say “That guy right there”. “That’s the guy I trust to put the integrity of the shield first, and to impartially arbitrate this appeal.”

  50. If Zeke knows he is innocent and never touched that girl then he needs to go to the mat with the league on this and get the suspension reversed, not reduced. If he doesn’t, he will forever be considered guilty of domestic violence and that will hang over him for the rest of his career. You cant compare this to what happened to Brady – at the end of the day, no one cares that Brady deflated footballs. I still see him in commercials. People are certainly going to care that Zeke hit a woman and that stigma will negatively affect his career from this point forward if the suspension sticks no matter how many games. It needs to be reversed or his career, at least in the public eye, will be over.

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