Doug Baldwin: Fans wear hats, cuss, yell at players during anthem

AP

During a Tuesday press conference that produced many thoughtful and intelligent observations from Seahawks receiver Doug Baldwin, Baldwin raised a point that often gets lost in the anger that gets directed to players who don’t stand silently at attention during the national anthem: Plenty of the fans chastising players who choose not to stand at attention also are failing to stand at attention.

“[Michael Bennett] is taking a reasonable and peaceful approach to something that I, I mean, I don’t know who doesn’t think is valiantly important to our society and the health and wellness of our communities, but yet we’re not talking about people who are in the stands drunk during the national anthem with their hats still on, yelling at players, cussing during the National Anthem,” Baldwin said. “We’re not talking about that. . . . I know you guys are reporters and you’ve got to make a story about something but I just think we’re taking it too far.”

Baldwin is raising a good point. Are the fans who are offended by the conscious decision of players like Bennett and Colin Kaepernick to not stand during the anthem in order to send a message regarding a specific cause standing still and silent, hats off and hands on hearts, during the playing of the anthem? I’ve been to plenty of college and pro football games over the years and but for the initial games after 9/11 the national anthem routinely includes people walking up and down stairs, meandering throughout the concourse, wearing hats, raising hell, and otherwise not pausing with the appropriate posture to honor the flag the way players are expected to.

At least guys like Bennett have a reason for doing what they do. For too many fans, there’s a nonchalance during the playing of the anthem. Which one is worse?

Bennett isn’t the only one who sat during the anthem this weekend. Raiders running back Marshawn Lynch sat, too. But no one really knows why.

“You are going to have to ask Marshawn,” Baldwin said after acknowledging he has spoken to Lynch since Saturday’s game.

Baldwin said he has thought about joining Bennett on the bench during the anthem.

“We are going to have a conversation here shortly and again, we try to do things as a team and as a family,” Baldwin said. “We will see how we can support Mike in this situation. . . . We operate as a family.  We support our guys in whatever they want to do, whatever endeavors they set out to accomplish or achieve.  And Mike has always been one of those leaders in our locker room.  We trust him.  Again, he is a highly highly intelligent individual who didn’t just make a decision off the cuff.  This is a decision, I know that knowing Mike, he has taken a lot of time and pride in making.  So as a family within this organization we fully support what he has done.”

Given recent events in Charlottesville, the political reaction thereto, and the reaction to the political reaction, these issues aren’t going away. And if fans are going to chastise players for not standing during the anthem, it’s only fair to be on the lookout for fans who aren’t showing the flag the proper respect, either.

27 responses to “Doug Baldwin: Fans wear hats, cuss, yell at players during anthem

  1. Doug makes a great point. He’s 100% right about the fans who act like A Holes during the anthem.

  2. As a US Navy veteran and a Seahawk fan, I fully support the decision by all who peacefully protest. I served so they have that right. I’m glad they exercise it.

  3. I’ve seen it happen in every stadium I’ve been too, but usually it’s the people who are losers and you tell your kids to be better than them. It’s a struggle if your a bit late to your seat with snacks and gave to juggle everything to get your hat off, but you still stop, and try.

  4. I still dont understand what they are protesting with the anthem and what i can do to help. I dont want it to happen during the anthem. Point has been made…what is your reason and solution? I have heard zero on what they are doing to better us as a nation. Makes me think they dont even know.

  5. Baldwin does make a fair point – but I’d have to ask the same kind of question I’d ask my kids – does stooping to their level make it “ok”? I can appreciate someone making some sort of gesture to support their cause (though I think this one is mostly about self promotion at this point) but i’d also say fans being verbally abusive and swearing at players isn’t ok either. At some point I’d like to see some of these guys who talk about being role models and leaders stand up for elevating the coversation to be more about civility and respect for different viewpoints whether you agree with them (especially if you don’t agree with them) or not.

    That’s just my opinion I could be wrong.

  6. Sorry, but idiots in the stands are not representing billion dollar businesses and they are not part of a team that represents the city as well. This is false equivalent and there is not excuse to not stand and honor those who gave us our freedoms and liberty.

  7. And if fans are going to chastise players for not standing during the anthem, it’s only fair to be on the lookout for fans who aren’t showing the flag the proper respect, either.
    +++
    I hear what you are saying, but no. Yes there is a double standard, but fans severely scrutinizing other fans for not being patriotic enough? Just no.

  8. I agree that some fans are ignorant and rude.

    Doesn’t justify the actions of the players that are being paid to be on the field.

  9. “the national anthem routinely includes people walking up and down stairs, meandering throughout the concourse, wearing hats, raising hell, and otherwise not pausing with the appropriate posture to honor the flag the way players are expected to.”

    The difference is these people are oblivious and accidently rude.

    The players however here are being purposely belligerent, full well aware that they are so.
    Big difference.

  10. I agree with the right to protest, but saying it’s okay because there are idiot disrespectful fans out there is not the reason it makes it okay.

    I don’t understand why the national anthems are played before sports events in the first place. It’s a public gathering. So what? What makes it any different than the movies or Broadway shows? Sports and politics don’t mix. We have enough problems without arguing about this.

  11. Sad that you live in an area devoid of respect and appreciation. Where I live when the anthem is played EVERYONE stands, hats are removed, and many if not most sing along.

  12. “Are the fans who are offended by the conscious decision of players like Bennett and Colin Kaepernick to not stand during the anthem in order to send a message regarding a specific cause standing still and silent, hats off and hands on hearts, during the playing of the anthem?”

    Speaking for me and mine, you’re damn right we do. And I don’t care for those that flippantly ignore the honoring of our country any more than I care for Copernicus and Bennett disrespecting the flag of the nation that allows them the very freedom they have.

    You ain’t got enough freedom? Instead of behaving as a petulant, disrespectful child at the expense of OUR country, change the government.

  13. Anthem etiquette states one should stand and place hand over heart if they are “present” are the people watching at home with cheeto dust on their hands technically present?

  14. Look, Colin, come out and say I made a bad choice, I said stuff in the heat of the moment that I now regret, not all cops are bad, and I want to work on reforming the system. Otherwise take your Castro shirt and your pig socks and stare at your wall of shoes while you ponder your unemployment.

  15. there was no patriotism towards an anthem until players began sitting…to heck with you and your faux patriotism. Way to go Bennett for speaking truth to power!

  16. Complete fair point at the hypocrisy of people. Those sitting, raising fists, and kneeling, are doing it for a causes that will only help society in a long run as long as honest discussions are being had.

    The jerks how in attendence raising hell and being drunk out of their minds during the anthem, they’re still jerks.

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