Hue Jackson respects right to protest, but doesn’t want to see it on his team

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It may be too soon to call it a wave of new NFL player protests during the national anthem, with Michael Bennett and Marshawn Lynch joining some of last year’s employed holdovers.

But Browns coach Hue Jackson doesn’t want the ripples washing ashore on Lake Erie.

Via Dan Labbe of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, Jackson said he respected players’ right free speech, he just hopes none of his players exercise it.

“I think everybody has a right to do, and I get it, but the national anthem means a lot to myself personally, the organization and our football team,” Jackson said. “I hope — again I can’t speak, I haven’t really talked to our team about it — I would hope that we don’t have those issues.”

“Those issues,” apparently include being opposed to segregation and racial intolerance, which seems an unusual stance for Jackson to take. It’s also hard to reconcile with known social justice warrior Roger Goodell’s call for understanding of dissenting voices.

Then again, the Browns have floundered around without known commodities at quarterback during Colin Kaepernick‘s continued unemployment, which makes Jackson’s stance seem like one that comes from somewhere above the coach’s office (in case we’re not clear with that inference, we mean owner Jimmy Haslam). Jackson had previously expressed admiration for Kaepernick’s talents when he was in Oakland, so it seems that one particular thing might have changed someone’s mind.

But the Browns coach said he was willing to talk to his players about such issues, you know, as long as they don’t do anything about it.

“I understand there is a lot going on in the world. I like to just keep it here. What we deal with, we try to deal with as a team in our closed environment. We talk about things,” Jackson said. “Hopefully, that won’t happen. I can’t tell you it won’t happen, but I just know our guys, and I don’t think that is where our focus is. We hope the things that are going on in the world get ironed out, but I know right now we are doing everything we can to get our football team better.”

Jackson’s words will have an obvious chilling effect on a young team, which has few truly secure jobs or players with the kind of weight to make a protest matter. And if they were influenced by Haslam, it should also shine a light on the reasons why some players feel it’s important to stand up for their rights and the rights of others.

159 responses to “Hue Jackson respects right to protest, but doesn’t want to see it on his team

  1. Simple solution, the NFL should tell the Networks to stop putting the camera on the fooled during the anthem.

    Kudos to Hue

  2. WOW, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AT. HUE JACKSON HAS AN OPINION, AND BELIEVES IN SOMETHING, AND YOU TRASH HIM BECAUSE HE DOESN’T AGREE WITH YOU ? IT’S JUST SAD !!

  3. >>> ‘ “Those issues,” apparently include being opposed to segregation and racial intolerance, which seems an unusual stance for Jackson to take. ‘

    That implies that anyone who doesn’t think that sitting during the national anthem is an effective protesting tool doesn’t oppose segregation and racial intolerance.

    Gantt, your obsession with far-left progressivism is such a turn-off. You seem like a good writer, but your political bend makes your work really frustrating to read.

  4. Because I respect our military and was raised to stand for national anthem I’m pro segregation and racist? Nice take! I would love for another site to update as frequently as this with football news so I don’t have to come here and see this garbage.

  5. PFT…you can stop wondering why teams won’t sign Kap. Your response, along with the response from the rest of the media, regarding Hue’s beliefs, whether Marshawn stood up in Seattle prior to sitting in Oakland, etc., etc., etc. is the EXACT reason why. I know it gets clicks because everybody has a take on it, regardless if they want to cheer you on or tell you how wrong you are…people will click. Just realize that you are fanning the flames every time you scour the sidelines for somebody sitting down when the should be standing, or somebody clears their throat when asked their opinion on the matter, etc., etc., etc. I’ve been a long-time reader here, but I am growing exhausted by this constant barrage.

  6. Jacksons stand is admiral.
    After 60 years of watching pro football my stand is to flip the channel at the first sign of a player not standing for the National Anthem.

  7. “And if they were influenced by Haslam, it should also shine a light on the reasons why some players feel it’s important to stand up for their rights and the rights of others.”

    Oh please!!! What a mindless argument. NFL players are not the oppressed here. These guys are being millions to play a game and they get to do so because there is a person who owns their team and that signs their paychecks. If Haslam doesn’t want HIS EMPLOYEES doing something on HIS TIME, then that is HIS PREROGATIVE. They can either abide or find someone else to sign their paychecks. Simple as that. I own my own business and if one of my employees decided to do something that half of my customers did not like, then he would be looking for a new job. This has nothing to do with whether or not I happen to agree with that person, it’s business.

  8. Gantt’s insufferable liberalism makes these stories how to read and makes it hard to continue respecting this site. Florio is alreday pretty bad, but tolerable. Gantt takes it over the top.

  9. Why doesnt the pro kap crowd/anthem idiots realize that no one thinks protesting the anthem represents their anti equality stances, rather it just shows anti anerican sentiments from people that have reaped the benefits of this country

  10. Why is this so hard to grasp? People have every right to protest…ON THEIR OWN TIME! While at work people need to conduct themselves as their business demands. If they don’t like it, they are free to find another job.

  11. The mask has completely slipped off of the writers here but my favorite about this particular article is how Darin makes it sound like the former QB for the 49ers that used to wear number seven is the lone key ingredient to a turnaround in Cleveland.

    That makes me question his competency and credibility in writing about football.

  12. We have a crazy person in the White House who may be mentally ill, who won’t denounce white supremacists, who has hired them to be part of his Cabinet and who want to build a wall as a monument of hate so we can Make America White Again and people aren’t allowed to use their First Amendment rights to protest this nonsense and racism? Hue Jackson should be very ashamed and if I were a Brown, I might be looking for another job right now where I can freely express my rights as an American

  13. Jackson has a job to do, win football games.

    Distractions are not helpful.

    He wasn’t hired to correct social problems.

    This site is headed for ESPN territory. Enough is enough, move on.

  14. I don’t think that is the reason at all as to why the Browns didn’t bring Kap in for a look. Why would a 1-15 team that has had 19 different quarterbacks since 1999 bring in a guy who’s main focus is NOT on being a good quarterback? I think journalist have no clue as to the amount of dedication it takes to learn an offense. Deshone Kizer is putting in 15 hours a day, 7 days a week. Are you going to get that from Kap?? I seriously doubt that.

  15. Tired of this crap why arent any owners simply stating ” look i we all have the right to protest but your at work, my place of business your representing my company when you stand/sit on national tv so your going to stand as long as im signing your paycheck. Dont use my company for your cause. dYour on my time and no other place of employment allows that. ” and garnett arent you lumping a whole group of people together as one which is exactly what these hypocrytes are doing when they ptotest all cops when theyre are only some bad cops? And if theyre worried how black lives matter why arent they protesting the black fatherless households whichnow stands at over 70 percent. Look at your own backyard ibefore you try to change everyone else’s and stop disrespecting the symbol of those who gave and died for that very right TO protest

  16. Yo Florio tell this guy that we come here to read about football and not his political views. Can we stop with the ESPN-esk political spin on everything?? Kaepernick has nothing to do with the browns why mention him… so much wrong in one article… enough is enough

  17. Kneeling is a symbol, just like a flag is a symbol. Those offended by a silent protest are probably the same people that leave animals in cars on hot summer days.

  18. Can you imagine of you went to a restaurant … and the waiter lectured you on politics? That’s how I feel about these guys.

  19. Doesn’t every job have a rule like this? If I went all rogue at work, that the owner didnt see fit, there would be repercussions. Nothing new to see here folks.

  20. protests are not permitted in my workplace—how about yours? I am free to express my free speech rights on my own time outside of the workplace. Why should the NFL be any different?

  21. “Those issues,” apparently include being opposed to segregation and racial intolerance, which seems an unusual stance for Jackson to take.

    ________________________

    That sentence, right there, is racist.

  22. Metitometin. I agree with you. I feel like the prudent thing to do for some of these athletes is to look for a more appropriate setting for them to support their cause. When there is a cause as important as the oppression of people of color, I don’t feel a multi-million dollar contract should get in the way their cause. Hopefully Kap is in his happy place.

  23. “Those issues,” apparently include being opposed to segregation and racial intolerance, which seems an unusual stance for Jackson to take.

    Perhaps, he’s saying he doesn’t want anyone on his team not standing for the national anthem because they become a distraction from football because the media will talk about it.

    Who’s actually opposed to segregation and racial intolerance? Nazis and KKK? They are a fringe outlier they have maybe a few thousand members? Out of 323 million people.

  24. metitometin says:

    We have a crazy person in the White House who may be mentally ill, who won’t denounce white supremacists, who has hired them to be part of his Cabinet and who want to build a wall as a monument of hate so we can Make America White Again and people aren’t allowed to use their First Amendment rights to protest this nonsense and racism? Hue Jackson should be very ashamed and if I were a Brown, I might be looking for another job right now where I can freely express my rights as an American
    —————————————

    um you could have just wrote…”hi I’m a liberal” and we all would have been able to determine exactly what you wanted to write!

  25. Something that appears lost on most of you commenting on here is the fact that it is the NFL that is bringing the politics into the game with the playing of the national anthem and blatantly pushing a pro-military agenda onto the field with its one sided support of the troops.

    The player’s are forced to either follow along blindly, or not. Thus the player’s decision is not bringing politics into the game, but responding to the politics the game is bringing to them.

  26. Segregation and racial intolerance? Seems to me the hysterical left is far more guilty of that than anyone. And I fail to understand how taking your frustrations out on the flag and national anthem are the only way to protest your perceived injustices. Nevermind the fact doing something that offends half the country is probably not the best way to gain support for your cause and does nothing but create MORE division. This article is bad even for NBC’s current low standard of journalism complete with the usual false narratives, conspiracy theories and left wing fear mongering. The only “chilling effect” will be the NFL sinking tv ratings when viewers have decided they’ve simply had enough divisive racial politics shoved in their face.

  27. They used to play the anthem while the players were still in the locker room just before kickoff.
    The T.V. camera was pointed at the flag above the stadium while the anthem played.

  28. WOW, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AT. HUE JACKSON HAS AN OPINION, AND BELIEVES IN SOMETHING, AND YOU TRASH HIM BECAUSE HE DOESN’T AGREE WITH YOU ? IT’S JUST SAD !!
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    Could you please point out the “TRASHING”? I’m not seeing it. All I can see Gantt speculating is that Haslam has instructed his coach to not let protests become an issue.

  29. Darrin, I think Hue is smart enough to understand that some of us are more pro military than we are pro snowflake and will stop buying season tickets when players decide to disrespect the military. Why pay to show up for someone that you helped make a millionaire to disrespect you for it? If that millionaire really has a problem, he has a lot of money and months off of his job every year that most of us do not have, to go out and help fix the problem.

    metitometin, the First Amendment applies government and not football teams. I checked the First Amendment a few minutes ago and the Seahawks, 49ers, and Cleveland Browns were not mentioned.

  30. Haslam is an actual criminal; very likely had a role in ripping off innocent small business owners in that trucker gas scheme. Kaepernick is not, and would have actually helped the Browns a lot. Instant karma gonna get you when the 2018 season starts, Browns.

  31. thermalito says:
    August 15, 2017 at 10:03 am
    Segregation and racial intolerance? Seems to me the hysterical left is far more guilty of that than anyone. And I fail to understand how taking your frustrations out on the flag and national anthem are the only way to protest your perceived injustices. Nevermind the fact doing something that offends half the country is probably not the best way to gain support for your cause and does nothing but create MORE division. This article is bad even for NBC’s current low standard of journalism complete with the usual false narratives, conspiracy theories and left wing fear mongering. The only “chilling effect” will be the NFL sinking tv ratings when viewers have decided they’ve simply had enough divisive racial politics shoved in their face.

    ———–

    I don`t think racial intolerance is tied to political affiliation. It exists across America.

  32. Hue Jackson is football football football 100% of the time. I don’t have a problem with the protests, but I can certainly understand why a coach would consider it a distraction.

  33. 23fandrew: Hey moron there is nothing political about the military or national anthem. One is a symbol, the other is an institution. You are making them political when they are not. One sided support for the troops? So there should be equal time for those who hate the troops and those who support them? You are as mentally ill as the rest of the lunatic left in this country these days

  34. ““Those issues,” apparently include being opposed to segregation and racial intolerance, which seems an unusual stance for Jackson to take.”

    #veryfakenews

  35. Good on the Browns! I prefer something in the line of standing arm in arm as a team during the anthem to show something just the opposite of the kneeling/sitting person. When trying to make a statement, make it in a positive manner. It can still draw attention, but doing it without offending anyone or making it all about one individual, and perhaps becoming a distraction that divides a locker room and turns away a portion of the fan base. The owners and the league will not stand by this year and go thru this again, something has to give. On another note, I’ve read it before here, stop with the pink in the uniforms during Oct. Put a ribbon on the field or whatever, keep it off the uniforms. It’s ugly. We are all aware of cancer! I’ve lost more than a few loved ones myself to it so I’m not being insensitive.

  36. 23fandrew says:
    August 15, 2017 at 10:02 am

    “…with its one sided support of the troops.”
    _____________________________________________________________________

    Is there ‘another side’ to supporting our young men and women that defend our freedoms? Do tell.

  37. ““Those issues,” apparently include being opposed to segregation and racial intolerance, which seems an unusual stance for Jackson to take.”

    Mr. Gantt, please indulge us readers as to why this seems an unusual stance. Left to infer on my own, I take that to mean it’s because he’s an African-American. Was this veiled racism? The white privilege or white guilt seems better served on the Huffington Post or a related site, not here.

  38. cgraley1 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 10:05 am

    Darrin, I think Hue is smart enough to understand that some of us are more pro military than we are pro snowflake and will stop buying season tickets when players decide to disrespect the military. Why pay to show up for someone that you helped make a millionaire to disrespect you for it?
    _______________________________________________________________________________________________

    I think it’s been stated a thousand times, but to these guys, that anthem represents the government. To millions of us, it’s about the military and American pride, but most of these athletes have made it clear that their stand is entirely about police. People are so upset thinking this disrespects the military, but they’ve stated so many times that it has nothing to do with that.

  39. Let me get this straight, standing during the National Anthem=Supporting segregation and racial intolerance? Yep, that seems about right (coming from PFT off course.

  40. Maybe you writers at PFT should take heed of the comment section of your readers, and how people rate those comments. It is blatantly clear that 95% of your readers are over this crybaby routine.

  41. Would be interesting to see what Gantt’s stance would have been to these players protesting right after 09/11.

  42. When you are outside the locker room and on the field you are at work. Protest then and you should be fined/fired.

    Protest on your own time when fans paying to be there don’t have to have your protest imposed on them.

  43. Darin Gantt – I can only imagine the number of comments you have censored in response to your hit piece on Hue Jackson.

  44. We all support the troops (literally) by paying taxes.

    We all support the country (the good and the bad) by paying taxes.

    Why can’t football games just be about football? Why do I need a chant and an optional fighter jet flyover to remind me that the nation and the military exist? Will I forget? Will you? What do either of those things have to do with a sport?

    The best American uses his brain, and worships his idols in his own time and out of public view.

  45. jm91rs: Is that so doctor? Tell me what gave you this amazing ability to get inside people heads and know what they are thinking? To millions of people including those in the military the national anthem does represent the military. So does the flag. Nevermind the fact many of us are just as offended by their war on police and false narrative that minorities are oppressed in America. The far left’s war on police and support for radical hate groups like BLM are precisely why Donald Trump is President.

  46. Would be interesting to see what Gantt’s stance would have been to these players protesting right after 09/11.

    No, it wouldn’t. Because no NFL players protested police brutality after 9/11. Congratulations: you do not understand what’s happening, but you have a very strong opinion anyway.

  47. So, saying that his players have the right to protest, but to do it in the right venues is somehow controversial? Really? Would PFT allow any of its writers to protest some incident by starting out every piece with a few sentences regarding said incident? Holy smokes, folks, pull your heads out.

  48. I’m not sure there is another media outlet more out of touch with its readers as well as the NFL viewing public as PFT and Mike Florio are. This site is quickly devolving into activist “journalism” (if you can even call anything associated with NBC that anymore)

  49. How did we ever get to this point where we have to be blindly allegiant to our country and make a big show of it, and ostracize people who don’t fall in line. You don’t sign up to be alive, and most of us don’t sign up to live where we do, so I can’t come up with a good reason as to why anyone feels like they owe anything to a government or to the guy next to them. Frightening mob mentality. Life is supposed to be every man for himself, this is ridiculous.

  50. ‘ “Those issues,” apparently include being opposed to segregation and racial intolerance, which seems an unusual stance for Jackson to take. ‘

    Unusual for someone to love the country he was born in, that has given him ALL the opportunity in the world, has made him extremely wealthy and allowed him to do what he LOVES for work??

    It’s not “unusual” for ANYONE of any color to refuse to be a spoon-fed racist.Hue has a great mind and clearly he thinks for himself.

    This author should NOT be covering this topic for this publication. Go write for Huffpo.

  51. This is absurd.

    By many measurable counts I would classify as a liberal, and I live in Ann Arbor Michigan which is one of the most left leaning cities in the USA. I am about as far from a racist or supporting of segregation that exists and I don’t particularly like people kneeling during the national anthem because I think there is a time and place and that isn’t it. I also find CK disgusting in his rhetoric and presentation. With that said, I will also always defend someones right to demonstrate regardless if I agree with it.

    So because I think that when someone is at work they should conduct their profession and protest on their OWN time, and because I was personally offended when a guy wore socks that depicts my police officer wife, sister, and brother in law as pigs then that makes me have an “unusual stance?” and apparently support racism and segregation?

  52. Explain WHY, exactly, Hue has to “reconcile” his views with “known social justice warrior (read: racist) Goodell”??

    And guess what? We completely UNDERSTAND these “dissenting voices.” And that’s why we’re pissed off.

  53. Honestly, I think this American marriage of these two cultures is unhealthy for us both, and this relationship just is not going to work.

    Meanwhile Hispanics and Asians flourish and grow in numbers far exceeding the African American community, but they yell a lot, to draw attention to themselves.

    The only way to make this truly right is reparations, and free transport to Libera, the only country ever founded by African-Americans, but man we aren’t going to move forward by constantly looking back.

  54. ‘ “Those issues,” apparently include being opposed to segregation and racial intolerance, which seems an unusual stance for Jackson to take. ‘

    Unusual for someone to love the country he was born in, that has given him ALL the opportunity in the world, has made him extremely wealthy and allowed him to do what he LOVES for work??

    It’s not “unusual” for ANYONE of any color to refuse to be a spoon-fed racist.Hue has a great mind and clearly he thinks for himself.

  55. geeee7 says:
    Why doesnt the pro kap crowd/anthem idiots realize that no one thinks protesting the anthem represents their anti equality stances, rather it just shows anti anerican sentiments from people that have reaped the benefits of this country
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    Responses like yours are intriguing because you’re here—in a place for football fans. And football teams are comprised of predominantly young black men. These are the men who Black Lives Matter represent. They see them as human beings and worthy of being treated as such. Black folks haven’t just “reaped the benefits” of this country. We helped build this country. We’re human beings just like you. So when we’re unjustly murdered by police, or seen as less than human, there’s a response. Yet many of you seemingly have no interest in that sentiment.
    My question is this: do you view the black men on the field as “different” from the black men who live as citizens of this country? Or are they simply “tolerable” components of the football-watching experience? Do you have any black friends? Or is your only association with black men through sports?

    Yeah, I know this attempt at conversation may piss people off. That’s not my intention, but I know anger is the pervasive emotion in this forum. Nonetheless, I really do want to know what rational people think. Seriously, anyone.

  56. shadywarrior: A better question is how did we get to the point where its acceptable for people to take out every grievance they have with society on the flag and national anthem? Nobody is forced to be blindly allegiance to the country, but there is such thing as showing a modicum of respect for the country that gave you a first world quality of life and the freedom to say whatever dumb things you want. And speaking of a frightening mob mentality, the authoritarian left on college campuses and tech companies is so intolerant of any opposing views they don’t even try and hide their bigotry.

  57. I want to watch football, players focused on the task at hand….I’m not interested in their stance on politics, religion, PERCEIVED social injustices , sexual preferences, etc.etc……FOOTBALL is what I turn the TV on to see & ALL PEOPLE LIVING HERE need to show the PROPER RESPECT when the NATIONAL ANYHEM IS PLAYED no mater what venue it be at…..WHATS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT??!!
    CK should be shown the door to any other country of his choice if he feels the USA is failing him…..
    Protest on his own time , not mine!!!!

  58. Owners just need to take a stand. If I owned a team, I would tell my coach to bench any guy for the whole game that wants to be a distraction for the team while on the clock. If he fails to do so, I would fire him. Plenty of other coaches available.

  59. Thermalito: I think my grievance is with the concept of society, period. We’re not supposed to be doing any of this. We’ve lost sight of the fact that boundless freedom is something we’re BORN WITH. The biggest lie ever sold to humanity is that our freedom is fought for and won for us by our government. The government is what compromises your inherent freedom, and they condition you to feel the need to thank them for the measured amounts of freedom they dole out for us. It’s supposed to be individuals looking after their own interests and survival, nothing more. Society was created to make us comfortable and safe, but that’s not what nature intends for, and it allows entities to become governments and become too strong. Without it, maybe a guy with a big club comes by and decides he doesn’t feel like hunting that day and bashes my head in and it’s my food, but that’s life as an animal. All this stuff we call reality is a complete man-made fabrication.

  60. alanhaysgrant: Interesting you seem to think a hate group that openly calls for the murder of police officer as representing all black people, when even most black people have a negative view of this group. Many people helped build this country. What is your point? What legal rights today do blacks not have that others do? I find it interesting you use loaded terms like “murdered by police”, however it does not seem to occur to you that blacks are far from the only victims of police shootings every year. In fact far more whites are killed by police every year so when you try and make it a racial issue and worse yet, take your frustrations out on the flag and national anthem you turn more people away from your cause than create sympathy.
    Something tells your “attempt at a conversation” is really simply another exercise is race shaming by asking loaded questions like if you have any black friends. Because someone does not like Colin Kaepernick or finds these absurd protests offensive does not make them racists. I also find it interesting that what constitutes a racist has morphed from someone who genuinely hates people of other races, to anyone who disagrees with even the most extreme elements of left wing race bait politics.

  61. Any person (in America) that sits for the Anthem and doesn’t salute the flag is a traitor…plain and simple.

    Apart from that, fans don’t pay good money to see & or hear their political views. And their skill set on the field doesn’t give them the right to shove it down our throats. I could give a $#!T less what they think, I just want to watch football. And being forced to watching traitors being glamorized makes me turn the station.

  62. Oh random PFT author, you’re tone and mindset are laughable. We who disagree with these protests are indeed NOT racists nor are we whatever new fangled BS label you and the left have cooked up today. Hue is to be praised, even as a man of color himself, he sees things clearly, and should be commended; it would be far easier on him not to say what he did. Keep your mindless opinions to yourself!

  63. shadywarrior: oh how sad society doesn’t meet your high brow standards. Get real. Boundless freedom is something you’re born with? So if you’re born in Saudi Arabia, China or Myanmar you are born with boundless freedom? You have boundless freedom and the right to make the idiotic comments like your post because you were lucky enough to be born within the borders of the US. You don’t like living in a safe, civilized society because you don’t like the government? Go live in Zimbabwe for a few years and tell me how much you like.

  64. tonyzendejas says:
    August 15, 2017 at 9:51 am
    Kneeling is a symbol, just like a flag is a symbol. Those offended by a silent protest are probably the same people that leave animals in cars on hot summer days.

    Speaking of which I want to see players bring their dogs to games to protest animal cruelty. I’m sure PETA will want in as well.

    The flag is the symbol of this country for which (the country, not a piece of cloth) many fought and died. Kneeling, in this case, is a symbol that you do not respect them and you’re using the wrong time, place and artifact upon which to mount your protest.

    But here’s the big one,

    alanhaysgrant says:
    August 15, 2017 at 10:37 am
    My question is this: do you view the black men on the field as “different” from the black men who live as citizens of this country? Or are they simply “tolerable” components of the football-watching experience? Do you have any black friends? Or is your only association with black men through sports?

    Good question!
    Without regard to the racial makeup of my friends, how do you square this concept. A white person makes a negative comment regarding the political position of a black person. If the comment is other than one which is in agreement, the charge is racism. If a black person makes the same comment, it’s not racist. Please explain how the same answer can be both racist and no racist based on the skin color of the person uttering the comment?

    Evidently there’s a formula that is based on the color of a person’s skin rather than the content of their comment for determining racism.

    Roll over MLK Jr. Sad times we have come to.

  65. Gantt’s views align with the patronizing responses to Tomlinson’s HOF speech and Ray Allen’s essay on the impact of Auschwitz earlier this summer.
    By making skin color the ONLY issue, you appeal to our worst angels.

  66. thermalito: Thanks for responding. Like I said, I knew there would be anger. As such I have a few questions…Most black folks condemn Black Lives Matter? How do you know that? Did you poll them? Were these your black friends who expressed these views? In all sincerity, I have white friends and white family members who disagree with me, but we actually talk… without rage. So it’s possible. I’m wondering if it’s possible for anyone around here.

  67. The flag is the symbol of this country for which (the country, not a piece of cloth) many fought and died. Kneeling, in this case, is a symbol that you do not respect them and you’re using the wrong time, place and artifact upon which to mount your protest.

    No, the flag represents the idea of the country and the principles on which the country was founded (one of which includes the right to protest/peaceably assemble.) The flag is not the property of nor a specific representation of the military, or of veterans, or of fallen veterans.

    Let’s repeat that a few more times:

    The flag is not the property of nor a specific representation of the military, or of veterans, or of fallen veterans. YOU may have created that connotation out of thin air, ignorance, or just general lifelong confusion. But that doesn’t make it truth.

  68. So now that Lynch sat for the anthem, does this mean you will feel the need to tag the Oakland Raiders in every article about Collin Kaepernick or the National Anthem?

  69. I must assume that the dude who wrote this piece is too young to remember the days when racism and intolerance really were legitimate issues in this country. I agree with all the posters here that this guy seems to be just stirring things up. And I know for a fact that he’s all wet about the “chilling effect” Jackson’s remarks are allegedly going to have on this team. This young team deeply respects Hue Jackson and will go through hell carrying gas cans for him. Watch that unfold this season. Locker room here is way too strong to be influenced by Kaepernick’s nonsense or this writer’s b.s.

  70. The thing everyone is wrong about is players DO NOT have the “right” to demonstrate their political beliefs at their place of employment. That’s complete bull. I suggest all of you try doing that at your place of employment and see how far you get.
    There is no way in hell NFL players should be allowed to get away with this, and as I keep pointing out, blacks will always get more leeway in doing this than anyone else. That is the truth and anyone who says it isn’t is lying. It is a double standard and all of their grandstanding cannot dispute that.
    If Kaepernick was a southern white boy whose great-great grandfather was killed fighting for the South in the Civil War and he tried holding up a Confederate flag during the playing of the National Anthem, is anyone foolish enough to believe the NFL and all these players and coaches would be defending his “right” to do it????
    Give me a break!! It wouldn’t happen in a million years!
    I watched LaDainian Tomlinson’s Hall Of Fame induction speech that everyone is raving about and I am shocked. He turned his acceptance speech into a political editorial in which he slammed President Trump and praised President O’Bama. There is no way that should have been allowed, and if they knew he was going to do it they should have stopped him and if they didn’t, as soon as he started doing it, they should have cut him off.
    But Tomlinson is black and he can get away with it because he is black. That is not an opinion — it’s the truth. And it’s ridiculous that he is being hailed as some kind of hero for doing it.
    And yes, he spoke of all of us trying to come together — I heard that, too. But again — he wasn’t at a Democratic Convention, he was at the NFL Hall Of Fame induction ceremony!! If he wants to get into politics, go for it! But leave it alone when it comes to the NFL!!
    I am sick of all this crap and so are many other NFL fans. i can’t wait for the NFL players to go on strike. When they do that, you’ll see all of this crap come to an end because their focus will be on all the money they are losing. They don’t give a rat’s behind that fans have had it stuck to them by seat licensing and outrageous prices to see a game. They couldn’t care less about that, but you can bet that they’ll be walking the picket lines and asking fans to support them in their quest to be treated “fairly”. And — I’ll bet you anything you want to bet that we’ll hear black players referencing slavery when they criticize the owners. There is always someone who does that.
    The truth is the truth and what I am saying is the truth. I hope PFT lets me state it, but I have my doubts. I am not a racist in any way, shape or form. But I hate it when any group or individual manipulates the system with lies or uses the race card to further their agenda. And I hate it even more when no one has the guts to point it out.
    If Kaepernick wants to join the demonstration they’re planning on Aug 23rd, go for it. I couldn’t care less about that. But when he stands on an NFL football field and chooses to disrespect the National Anthem and the flag while he is being paid millions of dollars, I have a huge problem with him. And so so millions of other Americans.
    Hey Florio — what if one of your employees starting doing something political — which had nothing to do with your business — to disrupt your business while he is on company time, how would you feel about that? I bet you would tell him to knock it off, just like any other smart business man would do. So stop being so hypocritical and stop defending Kaepernick, because he’s wrong and so are you.

  71. ““Those issues,” apparently include being opposed to segregation and racial intolerance, which seems an unusual stance for Jackson to take.”

    Whaaaaaaaaaaatttt are you talking about? This is the biggest bunch of crap I have ever read on this site.

  72. Why is this so hard to grasp? People have every right to protest…ON THEIR OWN TIME! While at work people need to conduct themselves as their business demands. If they don’t like it, they are free to find another job.
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    Because Gannt believes it is a players “right” to have a job in the NFL when in actuality it is a privilege.

  73. I never thought I’d see an article on this site that was more ignorant than “Kaepernick has the right to work in his chosen profession” while ignoring the fact that the people signing his paychecks (the owners) have the same right to not want him and the distractions he brings on their teams.

    Turns out I was wrong.

  74. alanhaysgrant: What anger are you referring to? I don’t think there was anything angry about my comments. Polling data has black support for BLM is about split so to suggest they are representative of all black people, particularly millionaire athletes is a bit of a stretch. I also find it interesting you are so concerned with anger and rage, yet are defending a group like BLM who seem to operate on nothing but anger, rage and irrational emotion. And if your idea of a conversation is subtly suggesting that anyone who disagrees with you or has legitimate concerns about BLM is a secret racist, than thats not really a conversation at all.

  75. tonyzendejas says:
    August 15, 2017 at 10:28 am
    Would be interesting to see what Gantt’s stance would have been to these players protesting right after 09/11.

    No, it wouldn’t. Because no NFL players protested police brutality after 9/11. Congratulations: you do not understand what’s happening, but you have a very strong opinion anyway.

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    It was a simple question, but i’ll type slower so you understand. This writer has a strong opinion about players protesting during the anthem, what would his stance be if a player did it, black, white or indifferent after 09/11, when hundreds of police officers risked their lives and died during service for their country. Would he have the same stance he does now. You can’t have it both ways, you protest or you don’t. Gotta pick one.

  76. Respectfully, take your leftist beliefs and shove them.
    This is about football, not your opinion on anything else.
    Stick to sports or better yet, go to work for the NYTimes.

  77. I imagine that an NFL player that would have protested the “violence” and “racism” inherent in the Ferguson and Baltimore riots by the BLM crowd would have enjoyed the same protection of their RIGHTS from PFT and the rest of the media. Am I right, Mr’s. Gantt and Florio??????

  78. I’m a Democrat, I’m a minority, and I abhor the current administration.

    That said, this article is uneducated and despicable. To imply that Hue Jackson’s stance somehow is one that wants to deny his players Freedom of Speech is insulting to Mr. Jackson. It’s a very liberal (no pun intended) reading of his words, in addition to basically stating he is against opposing racial segregation and intolerance, paints him as an Uncle Tom. It is insulting, and there’s no basis for thinking these things other than the desire to spin someone’s comments that disagree with some perceived injustice you see. Throwing in a racial dig, “which seems an unusual stance for Jackson to take”, is way over the line.

    The NFL is not the government, Freedom of Speech does not apply. Hue Jackson’s comment can’t be taken as one of not wanting people to exercise their Freedom of Speech, because that isn’t an issue here.

    I’m done reading anything this writer posts. It’s inflammatory and disrespectful clickbait.

  79. metitometin says:
    August 15, 2017 at 9:42 am
    We have a crazy person in the White House who may be mentally ill, who won’t denounce white supremacists, who has hired them to be part of his Cabinet and who want to build a wall as a monument of hate so we can Make America White Again and people aren’t allowed to use their First Amendment rights to protest this nonsense and racism? Hue Jackson should be very ashamed and if I were a Brown, I might be looking for another job right now where I can freely express my rights as an American

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    It might surprise you to lean that many Americans called Abraham Lincoln crazy, too. And since when should a black man like Jackson not be allowed to have an opinion that differs with other blacks? That is typical of the arrogance we see from the left all the time. If you disagree with them you are either a racist or a religious zealot, or you should be “ashamed” of yourself.
    And your take on “the wall” is really laughable. The fact is that millions of people are here ILLEGALLY and they are coming in by the thousands every day!! They are ignoring the laws of this nation and contrary to what liberals say, they cost Americans millions of dollars. They work off the books and don’t pay taxes, yet their children are put in our schools and often get free lunches. They don’t have health insurance, but they go to the doctor and hospitals where they can’t be turned away and the taxpayers foot the bill. They get government hand outs, too. And if they’re kids are born here, they are automatically American citizens.
    All Americans want is that they obey American law by coming her LEGALLY and they learn to speak English, just like every immigrant who ever came here had to do. Then show your loyalty to this country first, and wherever you came from second. That is not too much to ask.
    Finally — First Amendment rights do not guarantee anyone the “right” to demonstrate their political beliefs any time or any place they want. It is not a right to do it at your place of employment and that’s what all these Kap defenders like you are missing. He had no business doing what he did where he did it and when he did it. Get that through your thick skull and stop calling everyone racists because they have different opinions than you.

  80. If you’re a traitor & you know it, sit for the anthem
    If you’re a traitor & you know it, sit for the anthem
    If you’re a traitor & you know it,
    & you really want to show it…
    sit for the anthem before the game!

    (While America turns the station)

  81. mkbane says:
    August 15, 2017 at 11:54 am
    I’m a Democrat, I’m a minority, and I abhor the current administration.

    That said, this article is uneducated and despicable. To imply that Hue Jackson’s stance somehow is one that wants to deny his players Freedom of Speech is insulting to Mr. Jackson. It’s a very liberal (no pun intended) reading of his words, in addition to basically stating he is against opposing racial segregation and intolerance, paints him as an Uncle Tom. It is insulting, and there’s no basis for thinking these things other than the desire to spin someone’s comments that disagree with some perceived injustice you see. Throwing in a racial dig, “which seems an unusual stance for Jackson to take”, is way over the line.

    The NFL is not the government, Freedom of Speech does not apply. Hue Jackson’s comment can’t be taken as one of not wanting people to exercise their Freedom of Speech, because that isn’t an issue here.

    I’m done reading anything this writer posts. It’s inflammatory and disrespectful clickbait.

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    Hats off to you, sir. You have the right to disagree with Trump and his administration. But you seem reasonable enough to understand that he should be given the chance to see what he can do, just like President O’Bama was given by the right, and just as every other president has been given.
    I voted for Trump because I wanted a change in the direction the country was headed. It had zero to do with race. Yet I am labeled as a racist because I voted for him. I am no more a racist than the millions of other Americans who are black and voted for O’Bama.
    You are 100% right about Hue Jackson. He said nothing what so ever to be criticized about.
    I would love to meet you and open a dialogue between us. It might surprise you to know I am also a Democrat, but I am not a minority, however being a white male in his 60’s I sometimes feel as if I am.
    I voted for Trump and all I ask from those who didn’t is to calm down and give the guy a chance to see what he can do. To react the way that the left and many minorities have done from the moment he was elected is totally unacceptable in my opinion. I’ll be the first guy to vote against him in 4 years of he does a lousy job, too. But he can’t do a good job when everything he does is sabotaged and every word he says is over-analyzed. It’s impossible and I haven’t seen this kind of thing since Dan Quayle was our Vice President.

  82. alanhaysgrant says:
    August 15, 2017 at 11:11 am
    thermalito: Thanks for responding. Like I said, I knew there would be anger. As such I have a few questions…Most black folks condemn Black Lives Matter? How do you know that? Did you poll them? Were these your black friends who expressed these views? In all sincerity, I have white friends and white family members who disagree with me, but we actually talk… without rage. So it’s possible. I’m wondering if it’s possible for anyone around here

    possible, but challenging when each question is tailored to provoke the response that aligns with the narrative of the person inquiring.

    Example,

    So, when did stop beating your wife?

  83. This article reads like a HIT PIECE on Hue Jackson and the vast majority of folks who oppose blatantly disrespecting our national anthem and flag. Especially insulting and egregious is the comment “those issues apparently include being opposed to segregation and racial intolerance, which seems an unusual stance for Jackson to take.”
    Who is Mr. Gantt to DICTATE how Coach Jackson should feel, or that he already knows how he feels on issues of race, segregation, or respect for the flag.

    It would seem that Mr. Gantt is implying that because Hue Jackson happens to be black that he is REQUIRED to think a certain way, and that he is REQUIRED to support disrespecting the flag. If I were in Jackson’s shoes feel very insulted. PEOPLE SHOULD BE FREE TO HAVE THEIR OWN OPINIONS REGARDLESS OF SKIN COLOR.

    Mr. Gantt and PFT should be really ashamed of themselves for engaging in CHEAP RACIAL POLITICS!

  84. 23fandrew says:
    August 15, 2017 at 10:02 am
    Something that appears lost on most of you commenting on here is the fact that it is the NFL that is bringing the politics into the game with the playing of the national anthem and blatantly pushing a pro-military agenda onto the field with its one sided support of the troops.

    The player’s are forced to either follow along blindly, or not. Thus the player’s decision is not bringing politics into the game, but responding to the politics the game is bringing to them.
    ————

    actually the players are forced to either work for the NFL or find a job elsewhere. It is as simple as that.

    i’m not big on wearing a suit and tie to work but i do enjoy the 6 figure salary they give me. do you think if i burst into the boardroom and said ‘i’m not wearing this suit and tie anymore, i’m wearing my cargo shorts and miller lite t-shirt’ they would just say ok, that is your right to bring in your personal dress code here or would i be down at the local 7-11 filling out an application for a job?

    why is it so hard for some people to understand that

  85. NFL teams have employed killers, felons, drug users, drunk drivers, spousal abusers, and all form of low-life, worthless scum.

    That is FAR more offensive to me than what these players are choosing to do.

  86. ‘“Those issues,” apparently include being opposed to segregation and racial intolerance’

    Wow….no.

    Darin, “Those issues” include pretending like standing for the National Anthem is somehow being in favor of segregation and racial intolerance. The National Anthem does not stand for what your perverse world view thinks it does. Nor does sitting for it. Hue is to be commended, as is James Harrison (first time this Browns fan has commended Harrison for anything.)

    kudos to mkbane, orangedestroyer, and just about every other comment in response to this absurd article.

  87. “Those issues,” apparently include being opposed to segregation and racial intolerance,

    ——————————–
    so now, according to PFT, we are at the point where to stand for the National Anthem is to support segregation and racial intolerance?

  88. A trend I have been noticing lately…members of both the right and left DEMANDING that others adhere to their personal beliefs. See? We can all get along! Hooray for humans!

  89. aarons444: Then why doesn’t the media cover it? You’d think if the high brow leftist media was as concerned with those issues as they say they are, they’d devote a little more coverage to them as opposed to the endless Fidel Krapperstink stories.

  90. War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength. Standing up for the National Anthem is Racist. Straight out of 1984.

    I was glad when Hue took a chance on Terrelle Pryor as a WR. Now I respect him more than ever.

  91. It seems 31 other teams (others ‘floundering’ at QB) have passed on Kap. Why throw the Browns under the bus?

  92. aarons444: Then why doesn’t the media cover it?
    =====

    They do.

    Lawrence Phillips was big news, even before the social network age.

    Donte Stallworth.. Josh Brown.. Ray Lewis..

    .. I think the better question is, why does sitting for the anthem invoke so much hatred, while manslaugher, battery, and general d’baggery does not? Freedom of expression is outrageous, but ACTUAL LIVES LOST or endangered are not? Are we that callous of a society? I suppose we are.

  93. aarons444 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 12:35 pm
    NFL teams have employed killers, felons, drug users, drunk drivers, spousal abusers, and all form of low-life, worthless scum.

    That is FAR more offensive to me than what these players are choosing to do.

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    You’re point is well taken, but it’s apples and oranges. It doesn’t change the fact that what Kaep did is 100% wrong. And any time someone uses the race card as Kaep has, it will always draw tons of commentary.

  94. What’s the point of sitting during the Anthem exactly? You do realize that any understanding, appreciation or sympathy for your cause dissipates & is replaced by the exact opposite mindset & emotions when you show disrespect to the symbol of Freedom & Sacrifice that most American’s families have fought & died for for generations? Didn’t your mother teach you the fundamentals of life, one of which being that you must ‘give respect to other before you will be respected’. What you’re doing defeats your cause. It just shows how little you understand…

  95. Darin Gantt- a left wing no talent, firestarter….boo hoo Hillary lost… I voted Trump just to love 4 years of baby liberals crying 24-7-365….hacks like you….get a life…better yet- move to Chicago tough guy…..

  96. There is so SO much wrong with this article …from top to bottom!
    I cannot believe PFT ( in all of their one sided articles ) has sunk into this level.

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    Maybe you writers at PFT should take heed of the comment section of your readers, and how people rate those comments. It is blatantly clear that 95% of your readers are over this crybaby routine.

  97. To the idiot whosaid no one owes anything to the government orth flag orthe person dtanding next to you. Do you know who you DO owe somthing to? Is the men and women who fought and died for your right to be such a sejfish shmuch and that flag is a symbol of their efforts an effort you wouldnt volunteer to do today so shut up loser

  98. aarons444 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 12:55 pm
    aarons444: Then why doesn’t the media cover it?
    =====

    They do.

    Lawrence Phillips was big news, even before the social network age.

    Donte Stallworth.. Josh Brown.. Ray Lewis..

    .. I think the better question is, why does sitting for the anthem invoke so much hatred, while manslaugher, battery, and general d’baggery does not? Freedom of expression is outrageous, but ACTUAL LIVES LOST or endangered are not? Are we that callous of a society? I suppose we are.

    My wife asks and answers her own questions also. It’s also irritating when she does it. It’s called trying to put someone in a box.

    Example: Do you agree with me, or are you racist?

  99. redclaw1314 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 9:54 am
    protests are not permitted in my workplace—how about yours? I am free to express my free speech rights on my own time outside of the workplace. Why should the NFL be any different?

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    You really can’t see a difference? NFL games play the national anthem prior to each one. Most players and some fans choose to stand and even place there hand at there heart. Does your employer require this of you before begining work? The national anthem is a political act, forcing one to take part defies our constitutional rights as citizens of this country. At least for now.

  100. This entire article came off, to me, as being totally a racist rant at Jackson,
    about whose politics I know nothing.
    To ME, it read like that racist statement: “Boy, get back where you belong.” Because he did not voice an aproval of “Massa Gant,” he is somehow wrong and must be called out for it.

    Just my two pennies worth.

  101. Teams will put up with player distractions as long as they are very good. My thought is if player A is a distraction and player B is not and they are close in talent then player A will be gone. Yes there are 2nd and third string QB’s now on teams that are not as good as Colin Kaepernick in the NFL but if a team signs Colin in the morning by the afternoon ESPN and NFL network would be camped out at the teams practice facility sticking microphones in the players faces asking stupid questions causing a distraction for a 2nd string player. No teams wants this.

  102. dubdubs15: So are the two opposing political camps in regards to the national anthem? Those who respect their country and those who hate their country? Last I checked you could celebrate the national anthem regardless if you are Democrat or Republican, however the Democrats do seem to have a soft spot for communism these days

  103. Tons of respect for Hue, he has a football first mentality as any coach SHOULD. The Browns pay their salary and while on their clock should not be a distraction, and should represent the team. Players need to understand that for many of us football is a few hours of escape for us and this is the last place we want to see this stuff. I don’t see Hue as black or white I see him as a talented coach trying his best to put a competitor on the field.

  104. Imagine a team where all 53 players use their employer’s stage for their own promotion of a personal social agenda. It would be impossible to control the image of your own team as an owner, whether the messages were justified or not.

  105. aarons444:Lawrence Lawrence Phillips and Ray Lewis were ages ago and the media never devoted anywhere near the coverage to Brown and Stallworth as they have Kaepernick. And Ray Lewis wasn’t even guilty of anything. Regardless, politics and race are by far the most divisive subjects in the nation and a guaranteed way to invoke anger and hostility. If Kaepernick was too dumb to understand this (my guess is thats the case), its his own fault. You don’t spit in the face of more than half your customers and expect them to keep buying your product.
    Spare us the lecture Mother Theresa. Good grief you clowns are worse than the Christian Coalition from the 1980’s. You have the freedom to express yourself anyway you want, but you do NOT have the freedom to tell me what I can and cannot find offensive.

  106. marcuswelby70 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 9:35 am
    Jacksons stand is admiral.
    After 60 years of watching pro football my stand is to flip the channel at the first sign of a player not standing for the National Anthem.
    – – –

    You must be pretty thin-skinned and close-minded to other people’s views and opinions, or not a real NFL fan, if that would make you change the channel and/or stop watching the NFL. Why can’t you look past one (or a few) people not standing? Seems like you are forcing your own personal politics into the NFL, but I thought we all watch football to “escape from politics” (at least, that’s what I read on any Kaepernick story).

    I see things on TV all the time that I don’t agree with. Seeing these things doesn’t make me change my mind on a particular topic or become an advocate of those ideas. But then again, I don’t mind differing views and opinions, even when I don’t agree with them. Our diversity is what makes us strong.

    #unitywithdiversity

  107. Anyone else see the irony of PFT championing all this protesting and whatnot but still continuing to moderate every single comment posted? They don’t even post a lot of them. I’m certain this one won’t make it.

  108. Thermalito: And there’s the low-hanging fruit answer I usually get. “Why don’t you leave if you don’t like America?”, essentially. You’re totally missing the point. This is not specific to America. If I was born in Saudi Arabia, China, Myanmar, Zimbabwe, I would resent THAT government and society too. Just because America is better than those places doesn’t make it good. And people EVERYWHERE are born with boundless freedom, as nature intends it, but somewhere along the way, humans erroneously decided that we are bigger than nature, and started innovating ways to sidestep its consequences. We’re not supposed to have indoor heating, some of us are supposed to freeze to death. We aren’t supposed to have supermarkets, we’re supposed to hunt, fish, and forage, or die. We aren’t supposed to have vaccines and medicine, some of us are supposed to die from small pox, polio, cancer, etc. Is all that impressive? Sure. Just don’t ever confuse “impressive” with “the way nature intends for.” Of course you or I would be much less comfortable in other places, or in a world free of society, that’s not the point. People talk about safe spaces and entitlement….NEWSFLASH: humans are not entitled to safety, good health, prosperity, happiness, food, shelter, comfort. We’ve created this society because we’re afraid of our own mortality. How people cannot see this is kind-blowing. One thing is for sure: I am WAY too smart to need a babysitter. And I’m not going to allow myself to be babysat because I’m afraid and want others babysat to neutralize their threat to me. Hold your own, or don’t. That’s all there is to it.

  109. thermalito says:

    Regardless, politics and race are by far the most divisive subjects in the nation and a guaranteed way to invoke anger and hostility.
    =====

    Fair enough.

  110. So much wrong with this article, PFT. You’re better than this. Keep the “guessing”, political/social justice warrioring and “secret agendas” to yourself, Darrin. But, since you brought it up, here’s my guess (as a season ticket-holding Browns fan) as to why Hue hopes it won’t become an issue with the team:

    Plain and simple…

    We suck. We’ve sucked for too long. And Hue Jackson’s sole job is to make us not suck anymore. He doesn’t need any outside distractions fracturing the team from within, taking the focus off the team’s goal or acting as a wedge between the team and its fan base. So, he simply told the players that he respects their personal right to have strong feelings on the issue, while imploring them not to make it a distraction in the WORKPLACE. Any outside distraction, no matter how small or large it may be, only makes it harder for Hue to ensure that we no longer suck as quickly as possible.

    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, Mr. Gantt.

  111. “jm91rs says:
    August 15, 2017 at 10:10 am
    Hue Jackson is football football football 100% of the time.”

    If that’s true, then Mr. Jackson is a very one-dimensional human being who needs to broaden his horizons. Football is great, and I love it, but there’s more to life than football. If Jackson doesn’t take advantage of all the richness that life has to offer, then he’s the loser here. I’m all in favor of working hard and doing something you love, but not to the exclusion of everything else. That makes Jack a very dull boy indeed.

  112. “Those issues”, would refer to the distraction that these protests can cause. They also bring about unwanted media attention. Additionally, clearly biased reporters, such as yourself, will report a fact then hypothesize on its meaning; rather than allowing the reader to form their own opinions.

    The guy doesn’t want distractions because he is trying to do his job. Yeah, they’ve been horrible, that doesn’t mean he should buy into the nonsense of Lynch and others.

    Report the facts, we aren’t interested in your opinions.

  113. Since when did every black person need to have the same stance on everything?

    It’s cool for Hue to have free speech, as long as it’s the same as your opinion?

    That doesn’t sound like equality to me. It sounds like you want a parrot, probably because the stance sounds better coming from the parrot than from you.

  114. The NFL, PFT, ESPN, etc. know that people do not want politics or religion mixed in with sports but they continue to allow it anyway. Their fans/customers will either have to accept it or move on. ESPN is already finding out which way people will go and the NFL and others will be in the same boat if they don’t change their ways.

  115. I say if Lynch, & who ever else does not want to participate in the National Anthem, let them sit/kneel whatever, in the locker room with no camera’s on them at all until it is over…

    Last year the media focus on this every game to see who was going to kneel. Then, they made sure to show it 3 or 4 times during the game. I am tired of the media’s agenda. Remember… The media is playing a big part of this nonsense.

  116. shadywarrior: I never once said “Why don’t you leave if you don’t like America?” If you need to be dishonest and claim I said things I did not then you don’t have a very strong point. This should be obvious, but the fact you were born in a country that guarantees certain freedoms does not mean you are entitled to it. You simply think you are because its all you’ve ever known. And please explain to me why we are “supposed” to still be hunters and gatherers as humans were in prehistoric times. Actually just the opposite is true. In addition to the natural world; ideas, technology, values and intellect evolve over time. It is unstoppable and there has never been a time where everything stayed stuck in one place. Your comment about what nature intended is absurd. Even going back in history, when was there ever a time where people were born and free to do whatever they wanted? Every society in human history has had social rules and constructs which greatly regulated who you could marry, what your role in society was, the relationship with your elders, etc. Fact is you have FAR FAR more freedoms today than humans ever did. So America isn’t good? Seems like its worked out okay for you. Please tell me which countries exist in the world today that meet your high standards.

  117. thermalito says:
    August 15, 2017 at 1:35 pm
    dubdubs15: So are the two opposing political camps in regards to the national anthem? Those who respect their country and those who hate their country?
    +++

    When you watch a game on TV do you stand up and heart your hand? Why not? Is it hate for country? By the way if you respect your country so much why do you then lack any respect for, the 1st amendment.

  118. maestro1899: A leftist accusing others of being close minded to other people’s views? Hilarious. You must not be following the recent antics at Google, that bastion of progressive diversity and tolerance. Its his right to protest, its also my right to change the channel, not participate, and not spend a dime of my money on anything related to the NFL if this far left wing communist apologizing idiot is on an NFL roster again this year. And how anyone can keep repeating the phony “diversity makes us strong” slogan after what has transpired in this country over the last few years, or worse yet what Europe has devolved into is puzzling. Diversity is not a strength, its a source of conflict and strife. Always has been, always will be.

  119. dubdubs15: Yea not standing up in my living room is totally the same thing as making a public spectacle against the anthem on national television. Maybe when people like you stop making these kinds of terrible arguments a reasonable discussion might take place.
    Its sad you and your ilk still need this explained to you, but the 1st Amendment does not extend to your employer and nobody once has suggested he should be arrested for his actions. This silly argument like your last one is a non-starter. Pretty much nobody is allowed to use their employer as a platform for their political views (just ask ex-Google engineer James Damore), but I find it hilarious you guys are suddenly so in love with the first amendment. I wonder if we’d be hearing all this self righteous sanctimony from you clowns if a player was taking a knee in protest of abortion or communism. I think we all know the answer that question. Free speech is a one way street with leftists

  120. The only right Haslam recognizes is the right to swindle his customers. That’s both football customers and truck stop customers.

  121. Oh dear, this isn’t going to go over well at Google headquarters….or any private college campus. Social Justice Warriors, get out your masks, pee balloons, and bike locks!

  122. I completely understand why people are upset about kneeling during the anthem, but I don’t understand why the outrage is reserved for this issue alone. The concussion problem, the epidemic of domestic violence, the opportunistic and hypocritical advertising…that’s all met with a shrug. That’s what angers me. If people around the league were consistent in their outrage over moral wrongs, then I’d say, sure, go ahead and get upset about kneeling during the anthem. But if you don’t take a meaningful stance against men who beat women, how much credibility do you really have when you take a stance against kneeling during the anthem? Just be consistent.

  123. thermalito says:
    August 15, 2017 at 3:25 pm
    maestro1899: A leftist accusing others of being close minded to other people’s views? Hilarious. You must not be following the recent antics at Google, that bastion of progressive diversity and tolerance. Its his right to protest, its also my right to change the channel, not participate, and not spend a dime of my money on anything related to the NFL if this far left wing communist apologizing idiot is on an NFL roster again this year. And how anyone can keep repeating the phony “diversity makes us strong” slogan after what has transpired in this country over the last few years, or worse yet what Europe has devolved into is puzzling. Diversity is not a strength, its a source of conflict and strife. Always has been, always will be.

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    Wow, you’re completely wrong.

    A. I’m not a leftist but an independent who has voted for Republicans for president and congress. Now you know why I appreciate ALL views.

    B. If you like football but are willing to stop watching it all together because of a 5-second camera shot of someone kneeling during the anthem, yes, that is being close-minded. As I said, I see things all the time I don’t agree with, but I’m not going to change or stop doing them for political reasons. That is absurd. Yell at the tv when they show it, flip the bird to the guy protesting, lots of different ways to deal with something other than throwing a “I’m done with the NFL!” temper tantrum.

    C. Diversity hasn’t always been a source of conflict in the US, nor should it be in the future. And your post indicates that you believe this has changed “in the last few years”. If that’s the case, it won’t be too hard to change it back. Just throwing your hands and giving up is not the answer. We are a country full of immigrants, and, sorry to break this to you, no one is “going back home” to some foreign land. So we HAVE to deal with diversity.

    Yes, I fully believe when we are UNITED with DIVERSITY, we are stronger than being united without diversity. United without diversity is what the White Nationalist movement that you referenced is all about.

  124. thermalito says:
    August 15, 2017 at 10:26 am
    jm91rs: Is that so doctor? Tell me what gave you this amazing ability to get inside people heads and know what they are thinking? To millions of people including those in the military the national anthem does represent the military. So does the flag. Nevermind the fact many of us are just as offended by their war on police and false narrative that minorities are oppressed in America. The far left’s war on police and support for radical hate groups like BLM are precisely why Donald Trump is President.

    How many people has BLM killed???

  125. Kapernick and Lynch and Bennett have the right to protest peacefully..it’s their right..I have the right to not attend one game they play, buy any jerseys, and turn the channel if their team plays..

  126. tom ‘savage as fk’ says:
    August 15, 2017 at 10:36 am

    Honestly, I think this American marriage of these two cultures is unhealthy for us both, and this relationship just is not going to work.

    Meanwhile Hispanics and Asians flourish and grow in numbers far exceeding the African American community, but they yell a lot, to draw attention to themselves.

    The only way to make this truly right is reparations, and free transport to Libera, the only country ever founded by African-Americans, but man we aren’t going to move forward by constantly looking back.
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    Did you consider first the flip side, that being “sending all the immigrants” that arrived after the slaves “back” to their ancestor’s homeland? You win the award for carrying the White Nationalist water with your statement.

  127. Thermalito: JFC, you’re like talking to a wall, man. THE CONCEPT OF NATIONAL BORDERS IS ONLY HONORED BY OTHER HUMANS….MEANING THEY AREN’T REAL, GUY. Deer walk across the US-Canada border all the damn time, like literally every other organism that lives in a “border” area and isn’t stationary. It’s like there’s a level of thinking people’s brains can’t get to, an invisible ceiling, if you will. Humanity has existed since before recorded history. We have no clue what they did before a certain time, it’s all conjecture. But the second humans said “Hey! We aren’t like all these other animals, we should organize and cooperate”, that’s where it all went to hell, in my opinion. Explain to me why we have different rules to life than every other animal….is it more likely that WE’RE special? Or is it that we’ve selfishly lost sight of our place on this planet. Use your head. Look at the world through non-human eyes, unbiased with no self-interest. I just don’t believe Society was meant to get to this level, and our species was not meant to dominate the planet like this. Very small groups I can understand, but large institutions, hell no. Not without my consent. I’m going to live where I was born, but opt out of the surrounding society, and anyone who says I can’t do that? Watch me do it while you pound sand. And I didn’t make up anything you said, btw, the “essentially” after it means I’m paraphrasing, and you did tell me to live in Zimbabwe.

  128. I sure like Hue Jackson. They are in our division and I should not like him. But I like him…

  129. @ nyneal says:

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    Hats off to you, sir. You have the right to disagree with Trump and his administration. But you seem reasonable enough to understand that he should be given the chance to see what he can do, just like President O’Bama was given by the right, and just as every other president has been given.
    I voted for Trump because I wanted a change in the direction the country was headed. It had zero to do with race. Yet I am labeled as a racist because I voted for him. I am no more a racist than the millions of other Americans who are black and voted for O’Bama.
    You are 100% right about Hue Jackson. He said nothing what so ever to be criticized about.
    I would love to meet you and open a dialogue between us. It might surprise you to know I am also a Democrat, but I am not a minority, however being a white male in his 60’s I sometimes feel as if I am.
    I voted for Trump and all I ask from those who didn’t is to calm down and give the guy a chance to see what he can do. To react the way that the left and many minorities have done from the moment he was elected is totally unacceptable in my opinion. I’ll be the first guy to vote against him in 4 years of he does a lousy job, too. But he can’t do a good job when everything he does is sabotaged and every word he says is over-analyzed. It’s impossible and I haven’t seen this kind of thing since Dan Quayle was our Vice President.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Donald is getting his chances…and he keeps proving he’s not worthy. Unless you agree with handling of the Charlottesville situation. Perhaps you’re one of the truly good people he talked about. Perhaps you will follow that man straight to hell.

  130. So we tear down memorials because they are unAmerican, but those same people support disrespecting the national anthem to promote a message. So they accuse people that want to leave the memorials alone as being supportive of traitors to America, but people that refuse to respect America via the national anthem are praised. A little bit of contradiction here, no?

  131. Speaking for my fellow Patriots’ fans, I would like to take this opportunity to thank Mr. Bennett again for allowing Mr. Brady of the New England team to juke him into jumping offsides in the waning seconds of Super Bowl #49, thus allowing the Pats to get to the 6 yard line instead of being stuck on the 1, helping to insure our win in that memorable contest.

    Rest assured that we haven’t forgotten.

  132. “Those issues,” apparently include being opposed to segregation and racial intolerance, which seems an unusual stance for Jackson to take.
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    Why is it an unusual stance for him to take? That’s a racist statement. Should he support sitting for the anthem because he is black. Maybe he doesn’t agree. Maybe he thinks is shouldn’t be done on company time.

    I’m a federal agent of 22 years, Army veteran and happen to be black. I have buried my friends under that flag and anthem that they are disrespecting. I have a son that is in the military currently. I understand that there are problems but protesting during the anthem is wrong. Maybe the players should sit in protest of the racist BLM movement that is advocating shooting at me and my brothers in blue. Before any of you SJWs come here and say something stupid like “That’s only a few people who are saying that the …bla bla bla.” Let me remind you that they are up-in-arms in protest about a very small minority of officers who are not carrying out their duties properly. The majority of us respect our position and authority and put our lives on the line to protect and serve.

    If these millionaires want to protest, they should do it on their own accord under their brand… not the NFL’s or the teams. I’m pretty close to killing my NFL Ticket subscription of 20 plus years. I was so excited about my teams prospect this season. I come here to read about my team and how our franchise QB is recovering from his injury last season.. What do I see?? a picture of Lynch sitting during the anthem… That’s it. I have followed this team through horrible seasons, awful and embarrassing decisions – Jevon Walker, flippen Jamarcus Russel, Todd Marajuanavich and still attended games. I go to games after outfitting my family with $200+ game jerseys while paying thousands of dollars to attend; airfare, rental cars, hotels and the like… but I have had it. If Lynch is still doing this when the season starts I’m done with the Raiders.

    In my capacity, I can’t do anything that would embarrass my agency while on duty or while displaying my agencies badge or logos. I would be fired. That is exactly what the former 49er quarterback did and he got fired for it. Why is the leftist media upset that the former 49er quarterback can’t find work? He can’t find work because signing him damages the brand more than his onfield performance improves it. Simple economics and common sense… because the vast majority of the people that support the NFL don’t agree with him. The owners realize it and are taking a stand. So am I.

    I’m just a guy. I estimate that I spend about 8-9K a year on the NFL. They won’t miss my money but I sure will find something else to do with my money. I am not supporting them if they don’t support me. PFT get back to reporting on football.

    Darryl

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