Report: Ezekiel Elliott filed harassment claim against Tiffany Thompson last year

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As Ezekiel Elliott‘s representatives prepare to formally appeal his suspension — and in turn to launch a P.R. campaign aimed at proving Elliott’s innocence — bits and pieces of their case have begun to trickle out.

On Monday, some inflammatory excerpts emerged from documentation suggesting that Elliott will claim that Tiffany Thompson targeted him with false claims after he tried to end their relationship. Now, the league’s own website is casting further doubt on Thompson’s credibility with a story regarding Elliott’s efforts to assert that Thompson at one point last year was violating his rights.

Via Ian Rapoport of NFL.com, Elliott filed a complaint with Frisco, Texas authorities on September 5, alleging harassment against Thompson. Elliott claimed that he received “50-plus” phone calls from Thompson in a span of less than seven hours, including multiple calls from a blocked number.

The incident occurred only two days before authorities in Columbus, Ohio announced that Elliott would not be charged with domestic violence in response to accusations made by Thompson.

Elliott also claimed that Thompson hacked into his email account, found phone numbers of other women that Elliott was “messing around with,” and called them.

None of this means that Elliott didn’t commit domestic violence, but it helps paint the full picture of the relationship. More about that relationship is destined to emerge once Elliott files his appeal, and if/when litigation ensues.

142 responses to “Report: Ezekiel Elliott filed harassment claim against Tiffany Thompson last year

  1. Zeke, this remains on you. You’re the guy who can’t be disciplined enough to keep it in his pants. When you quite behaving like a boy, and start behaving like a real man, your problems will go away.

  2. They took a year, and still flubbed it. Looks like Roger got himself in position for plausible denial by skipping the interview.

  3. Yet, this does not mitigate the fact that he sexually assaulted a female at a parade by putting his nasty hands on her breast – that is a fact that cannot be dismissed by a hysterical gold digger.

  4. dirtdawg1964 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 12:28 pm
    Zeke, this remains on you. You’re the guy who can’t be disciplined enough to keep it in his pants. When you quite behaving like a boy, and start behaving like a real man, your problems will go away.

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    a former gf trying to ruin his life, steal
    money, stalk and blackmail him remains “on” him?

    why is that?

  5. “The incident occurred only two days before authorities in Columbus, Ohio announced that Elliott would not be charged with domestic violence in response to accusations made by Thompson.”

    So this proves she’s stalker that’s all.. With this occurring 2 days before the decision on her accusations doesn’t mean they were made up either. None of us know the full evidence, its still all speculation and will stay that way unless Zeke takes it to court and the NFL has to put everything out there.

  6. dirtdawg1964 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 12:28 pm
    Zeke, this remains on you. You’re the guy who can’t be disciplined enough to keep it in his pants. When you quite behaving like a boy, and start behaving like a real man, your problems will go away.
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    What are you going on about? Apparently to some of you this girl is a victim through and through and is not responsible for her own actions.

  7. Zeke stop beating women and then accusing them of harassment after the fact! This is very disturbing

  8. @dirtdawg1964

    He was 21, now 22…how many guys his age keep it in their pants, ESPECIALLY if he’s an NFL star? He needs to be smarter about it, yes, but expecting him to act with the maturity of someone born in 1964 is a little much to ask!

  9. When I said last week it’d be 6 weeks, reduced to 4 (or possibly even 2) on appeal, I got massively thumbed down. But the hypothesis is still holding. It was clearly his other actions (the breast, the nose) that helped get him the 6 – the NFL said as much – though they still haven’t noted his buying drugs hours before his preseason game in Seattle last year. I’d almost want the appeal to fail because of Jerrah’s and Romo’s joyous deflategate comments, but that’s unfair to Zeke. However, I’m sticking to my further hypothesis that Zeke will probably be facing some other suspension next year because he’s not in control, and he’s on a team that doesn’t control players.

  10. so? and if she were an employee of the nfl she might be suspended also for her obnoxious behavior. Even if he beat her because he was tired of the harassment he still likely beat her.

  11. If any one of you have heard the 911 call that Thompson made, she sounds like anything BUT someone that was assaulted. She’s completely calm, cool and collect. Not one bit hysterical, which her character tends to lend her towards. After hearing the call, I would be confident in stating that she made the whole thing up.

  12. Anyone claiming that he didn’t beat this woman needs to read the facts before making such an offensive comment.

  13. Pretty obvious that both Elliot and this chick have some serious issues.

    $20 says at some point they end up back together. Crazy attracts crazy most of the time.

  14. mysportsrumors says:
    August 15, 2017 at 12:37 pm
    “The incident occurred only two days before authorities in Columbus, Ohio announced that Elliott would not be charged with domestic violence in response to accusations made by Thompson.”
    So this proves she’s stalker that’s all.. With this occurring 2 days before the decision on her accusations doesn’t mean they were made up either. None of us know the full evidence, its still all speculation and will stay that way unless Zeke takes it to court and the NFL has to put everything out there.
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    Oh, you can bet that this is going to court…

  15. She may have been a stalker but she didn’t deserve to have a 225lbs plus man put hands on her (allegedly). Zeke and the Cowboys camp ‘lets trash the victim’ campaign will backfire.

  16. Zeke can only be proven guilty of one thing: being a rich, immature guy in his early 20’s.

    I don’t know (and neither does the NFL) whether or not Zeke did what he is accused of doing, but what has been proven without a doubt is that Tiffany Thompson’s credibility is extremely low and her motive is transparently clear. There is countless documented instances of this woman saying in plain English that she is trying to ruin him specifically because he ended his relationship with her. She literally called the police and kicked off this whole thing in the middle of the night when he wouldn’t let her into a party he was having. This was shortly before she texted some of her friends telling them to lie to the police.

    The biggest tragedy in all this is that it serves only to water down the credibility of instances of actual domestic violence, where a woman is trapped in an abusive relationship and needs justice to be served. This is not one of those cases.

  17. Bye Bye Roger
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    Yes, I’m sure 32 billionares are going to get together and fire their representitive beacuse a young running back is has unresolved domestic issues…..

  18. The biggest tragedy in all this is that it serves only to water down the credibility of instances of actual domestic violence, where a woman is trapped in an abusive relationship and needs justice to be served. This is not one of those cases.

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    talk to criminals like tiffany thompson

    the second i saw her photos online with her taking photos
    of herself in front of a mirror all the time, i knew she was lying

    this information just proves it

  19. Nothing on the NFL site “casts” anything on her…. it simply shows that Zekes lawyers saw this $(!t storm coming and troed to get out in front of it by tearing down the accuser…
    You should know this florio… you’re losing your “lawyers edge” son

  20. Young woman chooses “date pro athlete” as her career path, gets in over her head with athlete that lets rage make his decisions for him, ends up in a fistfight, waits for big payoff from said athlete. Athlete claims complete innocence, that he’s just a young guy who was looking for a woman to sleep with, and that she made up the story to extort more money.

    In other words, this is Greg Hardy all over again.

  21. cmoney20 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 12:41 pm

    Anyone claiming that he didn’t beat this woman needs to read the facts before making such an offensive comment.
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    What facts? The only facts I have seen paint his girlfriend in a very negative light, and documented statements by several witnesses puts her credibility in serious doubt.

  22. charger383 says:

    August 15, 2017 at 12:34 pm
    If NFL can not make players respect the flag, why do they expect players to respect anything?
    ________________________________________________________
    Maybe you missed this class in school but America is a FREE country. American soldiers have fought for generations to defend our right to be FREE of tyranny. It is what makes this country great. What kind of nonsense are YOU talking about? “Make players respect….”??? You don’t make ANYONE stand for the National Anthem. We have right to decide. This is America–not Russia! We are FREE!

  23. cmoney20 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 12:41 pm
    Anyone claiming that he didn’t beat this woman needs to read the facts before making such an offensive comment.

    You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. There are ways, Dude. You don’t wanna know about it, believe me

    Strangely enough, Walter was right about Bunny. Tiffany, wold you mind taking off your shoe?

    I have no idea who to believe on this one, but there’s an aroma I can’t quite identify..

  24. streetyson says:
    August 15, 2017 at 12:40 pm

    It was clearly his other actions (the breast, the nose) that helped get him the 6 – the NFL said as much – though they still haven’t noted his buying drugs hours before his preseason game in Seattle last year.
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    Good grief. He didn’t buy any drugs.

  25. Amazing the truth is now coming out. Zeke did not beat this woman. Likely something physical happened between them. I am NOT making excuses. My daddy taught me right, NEVER put your hands on a woman. But, in some cases, with two emotional people, this happens. This is very, very different matter than abuse and an abusing person. Get over it whiners–it just might be Tiffany lost her mind when that other woman posted that pic of Elliott sleeping beside her. Yes, he made some mistakes, has some more growing up to do. This does not make him a woman beater, though its likely most of you do not have the ability to make such subtle distinctions.

  26. August 15, 2017 at 12:36 pm
    Yet, this does not mitigate the fact that he sexually assaulted a female at a parade by putting his nasty hands on her breast – that is a fact that cannot be dismissed by a hysterical gold digger.
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    Right, that is mitigated by the fact that he didn’t assault her. Please research before running with every lazy piece of reporting you read.

  27. I don’t know if he’s guilty or innocent, but what the heck took so long for the NFL to come to their decision? I mean really, we’ve heard of this situation for close to a year now.

  28. aarons444 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 12:51 pm

    Yes, I’m sure 32 billionares are going to get together and fire their representitive beacuse a young running back is has unresolved domestic issues…..
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    If they haven’t fired that bozo by now, they never will. They’ll just go on letting him tarnish the shield, while they rake in the dollars. Per owner, he’s a pretty inexpensive fall guy.

  29. Black Dog says:
    August 15, 2017 at 12:48 pm
    Can Elliott play until his appeal is ruled on?

    Probably but then you risk losing him during a different part of the season, like possibly the playoffs. That was part of the Brady strategy I would imagine. I guess it depends on when you think he might need a breather. Assuming the ruling goes against him. I mean, it’s not like the NFL requires actual proof.

  30. Yes Zeke can play until his appeal is ruled on. Also, anybody who is accusing him of putting his hands on her, definitely hasn’t read the facts that accompany this case. With that being said, in the St. Patrick’s incident, the woman had already exposed herself several times and also went home with Elliott the same day. Facts before opinions my friends.

  31. Not saying this is the case; but, some women are crazy! Just because she got bruises doesn’t mean Elliott caused them. If she was asking other people to lie for her; would it be that shocking if she bruised herself up and then took photos? It’s just fishy that no one saw him do it; but, it is proven that she is a liar.

  32. bhuettl says:
    August 15, 2017 at 12:57 pm
    I don’t know if he’s guilty or innocent, but what the heck took so long for the NFL to come to their decision? I mean really, we’ve heard of this situation for close to a year now.

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    we have explained this 100 times

    the more tbey need to cover the lies within thr framejob, the
    longer the nfl lawyers need to look at what they use to frame

    if they had real evidence, it would be open and shut

    it is why deflategate took almost 4 months and they requested multiple
    interviews as they stalked and harrased pats employees, unable to
    find any real evidence

  33. youngnoizecom says:
    August 15, 2017 at 12:59 pm
    Yes Zeke can play until his appeal is ruled on. Also, anybody who is accusing him of putting his hands on her, definitely hasn’t read the facts that accompany this case. With that being said, in the St. Patrick’s incident, the woman had already exposed herself several times and also went home with Elliott the same day. Facts before opinions my friends.

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    interesting

    did not know that

    goodell is finished (or should be)

  34. mysportsrumors says:
    August 15, 2017 at 12:37 pm

    So this proves she’s stalker that’s all.. With this occurring 2 days before the decision on her accusations doesn’t mean they were made up either.
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    There’s documented evidence and sworn statements that say that the accusations were in fact made up. How the NFL found her credible is just another one of those 345 Park Avenue mysteries. The doorway to the NFL offices must be the same looking glass that Alice went through.

  35. if they had real evidence, it would be open and shut
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    The NFL security team is littered with former law enforcement officers.

    No evidence? Leave, and find yourself a clue.

  36. clintonite44 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 12:54 pm

    charger383 says:

    August 15, 2017 at 12:34 pm
    If NFL can not make players respect the flag, why do they expect players to respect anything?
    ________________________________________________________
    Maybe you missed this class in school but America is a FREE country. American soldiers have fought for generations to defend our right to be FREE of tyranny. It is what makes this country great. What kind of nonsense are YOU talking about? “Make players respect….”??? You don’t make ANYONE stand for the National Anthem. We have right to decide. This is America–not Russia! We are FREE!

    /////////////
    So NFL players play for FREE?
    Tickets to games are FREE?
    Games I watch on TV are FREE from ads?
    NFL shirts and hats are FREE?
    FANS PAY and players are paid.

  37. pinestein says:

    It still does not give him the right to hit a woman.
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    Too bad there’s text messages from this girl to a witness who signed a sworn affidavit showing that she got in a bar fight and planned to pin it on Zeke.

  38. aarons444 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 1:13 pm
    if they had real evidence, it would be open and shut
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    The NFL security team is littered with former law enforcement officers.

    No evidence? Leave, and find yourself a clue.

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    Umm, I hate to break this to you, little guy, but what does that have to do with Goodell caught lying in federal courts all the time?

    If John Mara did his “due dilligence” on Josh Brown, with all these supposed former “law enforcement officers”, just how do all these inconsistencies always occur at 345 PArk Ave?

    Hmm?

    How did Goodell not procure the Ray Rice video (even though he did and lied about it) if he has all these lawyers and supposed former law enforcement officials?

    Hmm?

    Want to keep painting yourself into a corner, do we?

  39. Oh this is just becoming more and more clear as the days pass. It all makes sense if you look a the sworn affidavit of Thompson best friend. Zeke did not invite Thompson to his birthday party because he was done with her and had moved on. Thompson, after getting her @ss whipped by another woman in a bar fight drives her and her best friend to Zeke’s party and waits for him to show up. When he shows up with another woman, she goes ballistic and confronts the woman, then Zeke. She yells to Zeke that she is going to call the police and ruin his career (all of this is in her friends sworn affidavit).

    All of this brings me to my main issue with Thompson and her accusations. We know from Thompsons own friend/witness that Zeke never touched Thompson that night and that she asked her to lie for her. IF Zeke had actually beaten her over several days that week and she had photographic proof, why make up an assault that didnt take place? You wouldnt need a witness to lie, you wouldnt need to make up the assault that night. Just call the police and tell them he beat her several days ago and show them the pictures. Problem solved, no need to coerce someone to lie for you.

    Sorry, in my mind, this is a woman who had a meal ticket and wasnt letting go. This woman gets into bar fights, she confronts other women, she makes up assault accusations, she asks friends to lie for her, she makes harassing phone calls and supposedly hacks emails and calls Zeke’s contacts. She was pissed that he didnt want her around.

    I just dont see how any of this suspension stands up. Zeke was done with this woman, had moved on….was looking for fun and not to be tied down to her and had kicked her to the curb (clearly, since he didnt even invite her to his own party) and she didnt like it and has done everything she can to make him suffer for ruining her dream.

  40. redclaw1314 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 1:10 pm
    Article 46: the truth is whatever Roger says it is

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    True, except if you sue, he’s forced to take the stand.

    Get HIS emails, cellphone and computer and put it all on an overhead projector in a court room and just sit back and watch.

    John Mara would be indicted as well, considering it’s very likely his influence sits very heavy with Goodell’s actions from 345 Park Ave, amongst other lying and cheating owners as well.

  41. clintonite44 says:

    What kind of nonsense are YOU talking about? “Make players respect….”??? You don’t make ANYONE stand for the National Anthem. We have right to decide.
    ================================================

    The only problem with that argument is that the NBA does in fact have a rule requiring players to stand.

  42. Timing means everything, if the harassment happened before the supposedly slug-fest then he would probably have a case but he’s claiming the harassment months after the allegation, coincidentally right before the Ohio DA dropped the charges. She supposedly has pictures and he has a bunch of calls from a blocked number. Besides publicly attacking her won’t help him that much, especially when you consider the source.

  43. For those who haven’t paid attention to how the NFL works, it doesn’t matter what he did or what she did. Roger may suspend any player he wants to suspend for whatever reason he wants to say he’s suspending him. He can even suspend players for things that didn’t happen or things that may have happened but not by them. He’s done it and will do it again.

  44. aarons444 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 1:13 pm

    The NFL security team is littered with former law enforcement officers.
    ———————

    Is this the same NFL security team that stated that they routinely witnessed McNally carrying footballs down to the field?

  45. trollaikman8 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 1:20 pm

    Will the NFL pick up the flag on this?
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    I don’t see how they can. Elliott is going to be the fall guy for years of Goodell ineptitude.

  46. TheDPR says:
    August 15, 2017 at 1:24 pm
    For those who haven’t paid attention to how the NFL works, it doesn’t matter what he did or what she did. Roger may suspend any player he wants to suspend for whatever reason he wants to say he’s suspending him. He can even suspend players for things that didn’t happen or things that may have happened but not by them. He’s done it and will do it again.

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    Correct, but that is what is called cheating and consumer fraud. Bernie Madoff once thought he was protected by some legal entity, too. Keep in mind, the customer is the one who needs the answers, as we’re the ones footing the bill. So, Goodell lying and cheating, while not being transparent can easily be seen as consumer fraud. Illegal manipulation of a product is consumer fraud.

    Ratings dropped 12% last year in one year for a reason and it wasn’t just do to Kaepernick’s immature, delusional and selfish little move either.

  47. This is the problem with making discipline choices for opaque PR reasons – the NFL is now painted into a corner where they can’t reduce the suspension without PR blowback.

    When your case is based on nebulous, subjective information and it’s made to save face, you don’t have any flexibility.

  48. cwmore1169 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 1:22 pm
    Timing means everything, if the harassment happened before the supposedly slug-fest then he would probably have a case but he’s claiming the harassment months after the allegation, coincidentally right before the Ohio DA dropped the charges. She supposedly has pictures and he has a bunch of calls from a blocked number. Besides publicly attacking her won’t help him that much, especially when you consider the source.

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    That makse ZERO sense.

    After he filed the harrassment claim, within 48 hours, the DA and local PD decided not to press charges based on what was on those texts and the stalking with 50 calls in 7 hours.

    What is with people being so obtuse and not reading between the lines?

    It’s funny how this framejob of Elliott is actually an approved framejob by Goodell of a framejob by Tiffany Thompson.

  49. cwmore1169 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 1:22 pm
    Timing means everything, if the harassment happened before the supposedly slug-fest then he would probably have a case but he’s claiming the harassment months after the allegation, coincidentally right before the Ohio DA dropped the charges. She supposedly has pictures and he has a bunch of calls from a blocked number. Besides publicly attacking her won’t help him that much, especially when you consider the source.

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    This bolsters his assertion that she made everything up because he kicked her to the curb. Again, why lie about one instance of domestic violence and try to have your friend back up your lie if you have photographic proof that the had done a few days ago?

    I think everyone who is convinced that Zeke is guilty needs to answer the question as to why she made up the last domestic violence claim if she had photographic proof of the prior incidents? There is no need to lie about the one that didnt happen if you have proof that the others did happen.

  50. Elliott was at her apartment when she called 911, right? And these calls were 2 days before the charges were dropped – wasn’t that a year after the domestic violence place? It doesn’t change what happened a year ago.

  51. Elliott was at her apartment when she called 911, right? And these calls were 2 days before the charges were dropped – wasn’t that a year after the domestic violence place? It doesn’t change what happened a year ago.

  52. I guess I could see why the Commissioner would be able to suspend a player BEFORE the prosecutor charges the player with a crime (or not charging him at all for whatever reason) when it is an obvious incident like the Ray Rice incident (we saw the videos and the aftermath, it was clear she was abused).

    However, when it is case like Zeke’s and the player does have a plausible defense AND evidence to support this defense, I feel these incidents should follow the state’s prosecutor office. If they don’t have enough evidence to even charge him, he shouldn’t be suspended.

    The state saw all of the pictures and heard all of the testimony the NFL saw. Yet they still chose not to charge him, which they should have if they thought he did it, even if they didn’t think it was a winnable case (to at least send a message and tarnish his image to punish him that way).

    I don’t agree with the NFL’s “51% burden”. I don’t think that’s a high-enough standard when we are talking about serious criminal offenses. This isn’t someone suing another party or having a disagreement with a neighbor. This is a serious criminal charge, even if it’s not playing out in “criminal court”.

  53. aarons444 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 12:51 pm
    Bye Bye Roger
    =====

    Yes, I’m sure 32 billionares are going to get together and fire their representitive beacuse a young running back is has unresolved domestic issues…..

    5 2 Rate This

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    umm, ratings dropped 12% last year

    throw in rumors of some owners not very happy with the scumbag, and
    you just never know

    goodell needed to get jax to london as one of his “initiatives” before
    2020, and without parity and the pats dominating, that ain’t looking so
    good, is it?

  54. Maybe there is a bunch of evidence not made public that shows Zeke is guilty or at least, likely guilty. But i can only go on what is in public and so far Zeke has more compeling evidence on his side.

    She has her own testimony. A 911 call that sounds like she’s ordering something from QVC and some photos that show bruises.

    Zeke has the police stating she is not credible. He has a restraining order. He has record of harassing calls. He claims her bruises was from her fighting another girl in a bar. Something that should be pretty easy to verify.

    Unless there a lot more we are not seeing, 6 games is crazy. I could see giving him 1 or 2 games for the accumulation of this allegation, plus his alleged bar fight, plus him pulling down a girl’s top. That would be reasonable, but 6 games for something that may not have happened is too much.

  55. Goodell’s mind was made up even before getting all the facts right to make up for all other domestic cases…specifically Josh Brown. This commissioner is as incompetent as commissioner as there is. He’s dug his own grave on this one.

  56. cmoney20

    What facts do you have that we dont. So far she has lied, stalked, tried to get someone to lie for her….her story is falling apart fast.

    If its for the boob thing…then so be it…but lets drop the domestic abuse thing. NFL shouldnt be able to punish you for things that until proven otherwise you are innocent of. Crazy

  57. “Yet, this does not mitigate the fact that he sexually assaulted a female at a parade by putting his nasty hands on her breast – that is a fact that cannot be dismissed by a hysterical gold digger.”

    Did the other female charge him with sexual assault or even say that she felt he sexually assaulted her? The FACT is that he pulled down her top, beyond that you are implying your opinion on the FACT presented.

  58. This bolsters his assertion that she made everything up because he kicked her to the curb. Again, why lie about one instance of domestic violence and try to have your friend back up your lie if you have photographic proof that the had done a few days ago?

    I think everyone who is convinced that Zeke is guilty needs to answer the question as to why she made up the last domestic violence claim if she had photographic proof of the prior incidents? There is no need to lie about the one that didnt happen if you have proof that the others did happen.

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    Exactly. The guy/gal you responded to isn’t playing with a full deck. If there was something the Columbus PD felt was coming from Elliott in terms of him being a source of the incidenct, they wouldn’t have announced they were not filing charges (still) within 48 hours of the confirmed stalking.

    Goodell is cheating because he’s using Tiffany Thompson’s psycho nbehavior to cheat, with some prodding from Giants owner, John Mara. Obviously.

  59. Young woman chooses “date pro athlete” as her career path, gets in over her head with athlete that lets rage make his decisions for him, ends up in a fistfight, waits for big payoff from said athlete. Athlete claims complete innocence, that he’s just a young guy who was looking for a woman to sleep with, and that she made up the story to extort more money.

    In other words, this is Greg Hardy all over again.
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    You are actually an idiot.

  60. These fiascoes will continue until the NFL uses a higher standard of proof BEFORE suspending a player. Kinda like innocent until proven guilty! That fact they believed the accuser shouldn’t override the fact they don’t believe Zeke.

    I don’t care one way or another about Zeke. I do care about fairness.

  61. August 15, 2017 at 1:40 pm
    aarons444 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 12:51 pm
    Bye Bye Roger
    =====

    Yes, I’m sure 32 billionares are going to get together and fire their representitive beacuse a young running back is has unresolved domestic issues…..

    5 2 Rate This

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    umm, ratings dropped 12% last year

    throw in rumors of some owners not very happy with the scumbag, and
    you just never know

    goodell needed to get jax to london as one of his “initiatives” before
    2020, and without parity and the pats dominating, that ain’t looking so
    good, is it?

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    And that is what I am most baffled about….13 of Dallas 16 games were the highest rated games for the week. Your ratings are falling….the one team that seems to be boosting your ratings is the team you target? He had the ultimate out….all he had to do was say the investigation is closed since police didnt find evidence of a crime….this would have all gone away 13 months ago!

  62. mototax says:
    August 15, 2017 at 1:53 pm
    These fiascoes will continue until the NFL uses a higher standard of proof BEFORE suspending a player. Kinda like innocent until proven guilty! That fact they believed the accuser shouldn’t override the fact they don’t believe Zeke.

    I don’t care one way or another about Zeke. I do care about fairness.

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    The trolls and/Goodell Stooges don’t seem to grasp this concept as they lead
    their disingenuous little existence here on earth.

    They’d rather support a cheater and a liar as long as it meets the same agenda
    the owners of their teams share.

    In other words, fans supporting Goodell’s odd and open, corrupt behavior means these same fans are to blame as well.

    It’s not that hard to see what Goodell has been doing the last 10 years since he was propped up as a cheating puppet.

  63. medialovesthecowboys says:
    August 15, 2017 at 1:51 pm
    Young woman chooses “date pro athlete” as her career path, gets in over her head with athlete that lets rage make his decisions for him, ends up in a fistfight, waits for big payoff from said athlete. Athlete claims complete innocence, that he’s just a young guy who was looking for a woman to sleep with, and that she made up the story to extort more money.

    In other words, this is Greg Hardy all over again.

    ******************************************************************
    At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

  64. Where is the truth? It appears that we may never really know what went on between the two of them. Best guess – both are not telling the truth.

  65. weeteblog says:
    August 15, 2017 at 2:04 pm
    August 15, 2017 at 1:40 pm
    aarons444 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 12:51 pm
    Bye Bye Roger
    =====

    Yes, I’m sure 32 billionares are going to get together and fire their representitive beacuse a young running back is has unresolved domestic issues…..

    5 2 Rate This

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    umm, ratings dropped 12% last year

    throw in rumors of some owners not very happy with the scumbag, and
    you just never know

    goodell needed to get jax to london as one of his “initiatives” before
    2020, and without parity and the pats dominating, that ain’t looking so
    good, is it?

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    And that is what I am most baffled about….13 of Dallas 16 games were the highest rated games for the week. Your ratings are falling….the one team that seems to be boosting your ratings is the team you target? He had the ultimate out….all he had to do was say the investigation is closed since police didnt find evidence of a crime….this would have all gone away 13 months ago!

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    Don’t be baffled. Goodell also tried to tell us ratings dropped becaause of the presidential election, even though ratings did not drop sharply like that in 2012 or 2008, and so forth, so he enjoys lying to everyone’s face.

    Hint: Goodell is so whipped with ego, power, and cheating for John Mara and others, he doesn’t believe that his antics hurt the ratings.

    It is my contention that NOW they have finally hurt the ratings.

    Ya see, when you lie and continue to lie on top of that lie, you end up piling up a bunch of lies, turning off the customer.

  66. mototax says:
    August 15, 2017 at 1:53 pm
    These fiascoes will continue until the NFL uses a higher standard of proof BEFORE suspending a player. Kinda like innocent until proven guilty! That fact they believed the accuser shouldn’t override the fact they don’t believe Zeke.

    I don’t care one way or another about Zeke. I do care about fairness.

    ******************************************************************
    All its going to take is one player getting accused of something serious, not being arrested or charged, the league suspending him anyway and attaching the label of and having that player turn around and sue the league for damages (if its even allowed by the CBA)…..and I am not a lawyer so I’m way out of my depth here……but in this case, Zeke was never arrested or charged with Domestic Violence/Batter/Assault…….but the league has told the world that he is an abuser….so, how much money does a kid like this lose in endorsements and future contracts because the league has painted this guy and abuser whether its true or not.

  67. bhuettl says:
    August 15, 2017 at 12:57 pm

    I don’t know if he’s guilty or innocent, but what the heck took so long for the NFL to come to their decision? I mean really, we’ve heard of this situation for close to a year now.
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    They wanted to get this one right. So, of course, they got it wrong.

  68. All its going to take is one player getting accused of something serious, not being arrested or charged, the league suspending him anyway and attaching the label of and having that player turn around and sue the league for damages (if its even allowed by the CBA)…..and I am not a lawyer so I’m way out of my depth here……but in this case, Zeke was never arrested or charged with Domestic Violence/Batter/Assault…….but the league has told the world that he is an abuser….so, how much money does a kid like this lose in endorsements and future contracts because the league has painted this guy and abuser whether its true or not.

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    Brady should have sued to end this madness, which is why he feels enabled to keep doing it.

    But, yes, Elliott can sue and should to defend himself.

    Heck, even the threat of it might be enough to scare the living daylights out of some owners and Goodell.

    We’d able to see every illegal act and communication of those acts from Park Ave for a decade/as long as Goodell has been doing this stuff.

  69. mmack66 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 2:16 pm
    bhuettl says:
    August 15, 2017 at 12:57 pm

    I don’t know if he’s guilty or innocent, but what the heck took so long for the NFL to come to their decision? I mean really, we’ve heard of this situation for close to a year now.
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    They wanted to get this one right. So, of course, they got it wrong.

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    In Goodell’s warped little mind, he’s using this as a supposed “make up call” on the Ray Rice attempted cover up he was caught doing, so he actually thinks this will curry favor with NFL fans.

  70. About the only people left who think Elliott should have been suspended are those who either don’t like the Cowboys, Elliott, or are afraid of what he will do to their team.

    Yeah, you fall into one of those categories, we know.

  71. NFL shouldnt be able to punish you for things that until proven otherwise you are innocent of.
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    NFL players and their representation shouldn’ve have handed that right to Goodell on a silver platter.

    Since they’re a pathetically weak Union, they are reaping what they have sown.

  72. 24601jvj says:
    August 15, 2017 at 2:13 pm
    Where is the truth? It appears that we may never really know what went on between the two of them. Best guess – both are not telling the truth.

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    That makes no sense. Clearly, one is lying and since charges were never brought on, it’s pretty clear which one the police believed and which one they didn’t.

    So, only ONE is lying, not both.

  73. 2020, and without parity and the pats dominating, that ain’t looking so
    good, is it?
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    There has never been true parity in the NFL.

    There never will be.

    For every Jerry Jones and Bob Kraft, or the Rooney family that dillegently work to make the League great, theres are bad owners like Mike Brown, Dean Spanos or York family who are only interested in teh money the League provides them with.

  74. aarons444 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 2:25 pm
    NFL shouldnt be able to punish you for things that until proven otherwise you are innocent of.
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    NFL players and their representation shouldn’ve have handed that right to Goodell on a silver platter.

    Since they’re a pathetically weak Union, they are reaping what they have sown.

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    Stop regurgitating the same canned rhetoric the NFL offices want you to believe.

    Both Rozelle and Tagliabue never once uttered the word “Article 46” in 40 years of stewardship, so why on earth would the union think Article 46 would need to be negotiated out of the 2011 CBA, after it had been in there and never abused since 1969?

    Goodell has been told by his corrupt lawyers, that Article 46 can be used in a way to commit consumer fraud with no repercussions.

    If someone would just sue him and the NFL, this could get into court where it can be proven that, NO, Article 46 CANNOT be used to trump US law.

    Get it?

    It has nothing to do with the union being weak. It’s been in the CBA as an emergency clause to be used only in emergency situations by the commissioner.

    Goodell uses it like toilet paper and to use it to cheat and commit consumer fraud.

    Stealing money from people or blocking them for their profession and earning a living is a crime.

  75. Umm, I hate to break this to you, little guy, but what does that have to do with Goodell caught lying in federal courts all the time?
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    Then why hasn’t he been charged and convicted of perjury or obstruction of justice?

    Beacuse these injustices only occured in your puny little mind.

  76. aarons444 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 2:31 pm
    2020, and without parity and the pats dominating, that ain’t looking so
    good, is it?
    =====

    There has never been true parity in the NFL.

    There never will be.

    For every Jerry Jones and Bob Kraft, or the Rooney family that dillegently work to make the League great, theres are bad owners like Mike Brown, Dean Spanos or York family who are only interested in teh money the League provides them with.

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    There definitely was for a long stretch of time from the mid/late 90s and then it returned in 2008/2009 as the Pats were rebuilding by loading up on draft picks.

    But, that is what this is about here….Outside of jealousy and ego, it’s about money.

    You can’t sell NFL expansion in Europe without parity, hence why Jax is still in Jax. But, make no mistake, the connection between them signing up so fast to play more games there, after leading the pack in games played there already, the writing is on the wall.

    But, if the sport is so wildly popular, then why hasn’t Khan easily moved them over there like STL just moved to LA, SD moved to LA or Oakland to Vegas.

    Khan can make MORE money in London, but investors there clearly aren’t confident it can sustain.

    But, parity is the key selling point for Goodell which is why he is so into cheating a great team like the Pats. It serves all the owners, minus Kraft, very well in terms of hoping to knock NE down to gain parity back so they can instill investor confidence in London and Europe.

    With Brexit too, that likely has put another crimp in their plans.

    The owners want to go from being millionaires to billionaires, and the only way to achieve that arrogance, is to expand into another market entirely.

  77. aarons444 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 2:40 pm
    Umm, I hate to break this to you, little guy, but what does that have to do with Goodell caught lying in federal courts all the time?
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    Then why hasn’t he been charged and convicted of perjury or obstruction of justice?

    Beacuse these injustices only occured in your puny little mind.

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    Because he’s never taken the stand. He’s hidden behind the lawyers. How old are you? 12?

    If he was sued, he’d have to take the stand.

  78. Anyone who thinks Roger 1 year after the fact suspended Zeke with no evidence is crazy. Zeke is a hero in Cbus. Some people would vouch for him regardless. If there is evidence yet Zeke is trashing this lady….lookout. This could be a sh@t storm as bad as Ray Rice. Ray never played football again. I’d have advised Zeke not to publically trash this woman.

  79. Funny how the “expert” investigators the NFL has failed to mention that in the their report. I wonder if they even investigated both sides or just the “victim”.

  80. It has nothing to do with the union being weak. It’s been in the CBA as an emergency clause to be used only in emergency situations by the commissioner.
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    It has EVERYTHING to do with it.

    The NFLPA GAVE Goodell that power. De Smith GAVE Goodell that power. 32 NFL onwers ALLOW Goodell to have that power. If this were unjust, the NFLPA would fight it. In situations the power was deemed to be unjust, they HAVE fought it. And they LOST. In courts of law. Asterisk Boy lost so convincingly, he opted not to go before the Supreme Court.

    The truth is hard to take sometimes.

    Denial. Anger. Acceptance.

  81. aarons444 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 2:55 pm
    It has nothing to do with the union being weak. It’s been in the CBA as an emergency clause to be used only in emergency situations by the commissioner.
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    It has EVERYTHING to do with it.

    The NFLPA GAVE Goodell that power. De Smith GAVE Goodell that power. 32 NFL onwers ALLOW Goodell to have that power. If this were unjust, the NFLPA would fight it. In situations the power was deemed to be unjust, they HAVE fought it. And they LOST. In courts of law. Asterisk Boy lost so convincingly, he opted not to go before the Supreme Court.

    The truth is hard to take sometimes.

    Denial. Anger. Acceptance.

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    False.

    Goodell is using it in a fraudulent way.

    FACT: Rozelle and Tagliabue never once referenced Article 46 when disciplining a player or team.

    Goodell, however, has appealed in a federal court, where he is on record, as stating, Article 46 gives him carte blanche to do whatever he wants, including intentional lying and cheating.

    Mind you, this is on the heels of of him dropping the word “integrity” ad nauseum.

    Nowhere in the NFLs Constitution and BYLaws does it say “Article 46 provided the commissioner with the power to lie, cheat and steal and by unethical as he wants”.

    Nope.

    Just checked it..It says nothing like that at all.

  82. PS Brady didn’t lose. He won. Berman asked the NFL lawyers if they had any evidence and they admitted they did not.Brady was freed and played the season.

    Goodell then cheated again, appealed on Article 46, bypassing the whole reason why they were in court is due to his said cheating and framing, and paid off Judge Chin. That sounds like a sore loser to me.

    So, the Asterisk Commissioner known as Cheater Goodell, lost and took his ball and went home anyway. The Super Bowl win and comeback with him on that podium is also a nice little cherry on top.

    Ratings then dropped 12% because many long time fans are creeped out by his behavior, including fans like you who are also very creepy who think this is normal behavior from a commissioner.

  83. notlistinin says:
    August 15, 2017 at 2:24 pm
    About the only people left who think Elliott should have been suspended are those who either don’t like the Cowboys, Elliott, or are afraid of what he will do to their team.

    Yeah, you fall into one of those categories, we know.

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    Truthfully doesn’t matter what anyone of us think because we havent seen any of the actual evidence supporting either side. All we’ve seen is the stuff they leak to support their case. Not one of us know what has happened between the two.

  84. There definitely was for a long stretch of time from the mid/late 90s and then it returned in 2008/2009 as the Pats were rebuilding by loading up on draft picks.
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    Early 80s – Cowboys, 49ers, Redskins, Dolphins, Raiders.. playoffs, most every year
    Late 80s – Giants, 49ers, Bears, Redskins, Dolphins, Broncos.. playoffs, most every year

    90s – 49ers, Cowboys, Bills, Packers, Broncos, Chiefs, Steelers

    00s – Steelers, Patriots, Packers, Colts, Eagles

    Today – Patriots, Packers, Seahawks, Steelers, Bengals

    How can you have a League of “parity” when the same teams win their division and make the Playoffs every year?

    What a load of manure.

  85. monarch76 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 2:49 pm
    Anyone who thinks Roger 1 year after the fact suspended Zeke with no evidence is crazy. Zeke is a hero in Cbus. Some people would vouch for him regardless. If there is evidence yet Zeke is trashing this lady….lookout. This could be a sh@t storm as bad as Ray Rice. Ray never played football again. I’d have advised Zeke not to publically trash this woman.

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    You should probably learn how to spell 5th grade words before lecturing people who are more intelligent than you.

    What you’re really saying is Elliott paid off numerous authorities in Columnbus, OH.

    Highly, highly unlikely, considering his filing a claim of stalking, 2 months after the supposed incidents, would mean his payoff would have already covered all of that, so why would he then need to file a police report himself if the payoff occurred?

    Would have to pay off a LOT of people, too. Even the people who took the 911 call.

    Try again.

  86. Truthfully doesn’t matter what anyone of us think because we havent seen any of the actual evidence supporting either side. All we’ve seen is the stuff they leak to support their case. Not one of us know what has happened between the two.

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    False.

    Google “Ezekiel Elliott and Washington Post”…Click on that article. The text exchnages that are public record, shows her intent. The afffadavit is public record, so you’re wrong.

    Pretty clear she is a psycho, lost her mind, got dumped by him, and then he wanted to file a restraining order, after she started contacting him from someone else’s phone and apparently hacked into his computer somehow.

    Her own friend gave a statement that Thompson had asked her to lie. What more do you want here?

    Far more evidence to absolve Elliott, as opposed to what Goodell is claiming, the latter never even present for the interview with Thompson.

    Can’t be made up. Can’t.

  87. aarons444 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 3:07 pm
    There definitely was for a long stretch of time from the mid/late 90s and then it returned in 2008/2009 as the Pats were rebuilding by loading up on draft picks.
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    Early 80s – Cowboys, 49ers, Redskins, Dolphins, Raiders.. playoffs, most every year
    Late 80s – Giants, 49ers, Bears, Redskins, Dolphins, Broncos.. playoffs, most every year

    90s – 49ers, Cowboys, Bills, Packers, Broncos, Chiefs, Steelers

    00s – Steelers, Patriots, Packers, Colts, Eagles

    Today – Patriots, Packers, Seahawks, Steelers, Bengals

    How can you have a League of “parity” when the same teams win their division and make the Playoffs every year?

    What a load of manure.

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    Are you honestly this dumb?

    There is a lot more parity now than in the pre cap era. The Saints and Cardinals have been to Super Bowls, for example.

    There will always be superbly run teams in every era.

    You’re making my point for me as well. As long as the Pats prove there is no parity, it harms the NFL’s long term plans, hence the need to frame and cheat them, while protecting teams like yours for blatant, REAL cheating.

  88. The comment section would be down to about 18 comments if A-a-ron and Tylaw had their comments deleted. Agree to disagree and stop the flatulence on this board… and maybe get a job sir!

  89. How is it even possible that in the two cases of confirmed domestic violence, Ray Rice and Josh Brown, they initially get a relative slap on the wrist, but with this case, that features a lying accuser, Elliott get the max?

    Oh yeah. Goodell.

  90. Zeke does stupid stuff but people are accusing him of things he didn’t do. One poster said he bought drugs at the Seattle pre-season game. He went in the shop but did not purchase anything. Another poster said he committed sexual harassment by taking his friend’s top down, but remember she did not care that he did, and she flashed the crowd by herself too. He also did not punch the DJ, even though people are throwing around comments that he did. Now what he did in those instances was stupid, but unfortunately people aren’t arrested for being stupid. He is taking the blame because he put himself in poor situations for who he is, and that probably does speak to the fact that he isn’t a great guy. I still want to see the evidence the NFL has to determine domestic violence! So far they haven’t released proof that he has done or hasn’t done it. This isn’t even a “generally aware” circumstance. Either he did it or did not, and so far there is no evidence. If he did it, he deserves to be out of the league, but for pity sake imagine if he did not…ruined life.

  91. There is a lot more parity now than in the pre cap era. The Saints and Cardinals have been to Super Bowls, for example.
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    Complete bull#$%&

    The AFC didn’t win a Championship in 13 years from 1984-1996.

    The NFL only had 4 Champions from 1986-1995. 3 of them were NFC East teams. A whole decade. The same 4 teams dominated. 5 if you count the Bills, who deserve to be mentioned for their 4 consecutive Super Bowls.

    The Patriots have been to 8 Super Bowls since 1996. The Steelers, Broncos, and Packers have been perrenial Playoff teams thoughout that time.

    You don’t know what the word means if you call that ‘parity’.

    You’re just trying to pump up your team. Its completely transparent.

  92. mmack66 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 3:19 pm
    How is it even possible that in the two cases of confirmed domestic violence, Ray Rice and Josh Brown, they initially get a relative slap on the wrist, but with this case, that features a lying accuser, Elliott get the max?

    Oh yeah. Goodell.

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    You got it. In the warped little greedy and selfish world of Goodell, that is what makes sense to him.

  93. thisistheendifyouletit says:
    August 15, 2017 at 3:25 pm
    ….. I still want to see the evidence the NFL has to determine domestic violence! So far they haven’t released proof that he has done or hasn’t done it. This isn’t even a “generally aware” circumstance.

    Good luck with that. The evidence is buried in Roger’s office, right next to the 2015 PSI data.
    But you’re right,this isn’t generally aware. They’re flat out saying he did it.

  94. bigbluefan1 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 3:09 pm
    So now we are playing the blame the victim game
    So low class

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    About as low class as the Giants employing Josh Brown after they knew he beat his wife. So I guess in your world, once someone accuses someone of a crime, they cant be touched. We know she committed two crimes, she filed a false police report on 7/22/16 claiming Zeke beat her…..she committed another crime when she tried to get her friend to lie to the police about what she saw. OH….I did it, didnt I….I blamed the “victim”…..I should be ashamed!

  95. weeteblog says:
    August 15, 2017 at 3:40 pm
    bigbluefan1 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 3:09 pm
    So now we are playing the blame the victim game
    So low class

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    About as low class as the Giants employing Josh Brown after they knew he beat his wife. So I guess in your world, once someone accuses someone of a crime, they cant be touched. We know she committed two crimes, she filed a false police report on 7/22/16 claiming Zeke beat her…..she committed another crime when she tried to get her friend to lie to the police about what she saw. OH….I did it, didnt I….I blamed the “victim”…..I should be ashamed!
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    Employing Josh Brown??? H$!! they gave him a contract extension after the fact!

  96. aarons444 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 3:32 pm
    There is a lot more parity now than in the pre cap era. The Saints and Cardinals have been to Super Bowls, for example.
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    Complete bull#$%&

    The AFC didn’t win a Championship in 13 years from 1984-1996.

    The NFL only had 4 Champions from 1986-1995. 3 of them were NFC East teams. A whole decade. The same 4 teams dominated. 5 if you count the Bills, who deserve to be mentioned for their 4 consecutive Super Bowls.

    The Patriots have been to 8 Super Bowls since 1996. The Steelers, Broncos, and Packers have been perrenial Playoff teams thoughout that time.

    You don’t know what the word means if you call that ‘parity’.

    You’re just trying to pump up your team. Its completely transparent.

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    I don’t need to “pump up” my team, little guy. And, I never said a word about the AFC being strong in the 1980s or into the early 1990s either. But, what you just wrote shows us there was NO PARITY in the pre cap era, where the parity now is BAD or MEDIOCRE teams creating a bad product, but there is no parity. I said they are TRYING to create parity because that is what the salary cap is meant to do.

    Hence, why Goodell wants to frame the Pats. Get it?

    Good luck in Sophmore year of high school this year. That Shakespeare and Geometry can be tricky!

  97. Tylawspick6 you can think what you want. Goodell did not do this for no reason. Zeke wouldn’t have to pay people off in cbus. He beat Michigan so everyone adores him. I’m sure Roger has a much better understanding than you of what happened. If evidence emerges that Zeke did this his career is in trouble. As a buckeye I hope he didn’t do this. I just don’t think Roger is that dumb.

  98. Buffalo Bills: Last playoff game – January 8, 2000. Only 2 seasons over .500 since then.

    Cincinnati Bengals: Haven’t won a Playoff game since 1991.

    Cleveland Browns: Last playoff game – January 5, 2003. 1 winning season since.

    Houston Texans: 106-134 record in their history. Never advanced past the Divisional Round.

    Jacksonville Jaguars: Last playoff game – January 12, 2008. 3 seasons of above .500 records since 2000.

    Kansas City Chiefs: Last playoff win – January 16, 1994.

    Miami Dolphins: 2 playoff appearance since Brady became Pats starter.

    Oakland Raiders: Haven’t won a Playoff game since 2002.

    Tennessee Titans: Last playoff game – January 10, 2009. Three seasons of above .500 records since 2003.

    .. over half of the AFC has been irrelevant since the turn of the century.

    You call that parity?

  99. monarch76 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 4:00 pm
    Tylawspick6 you can think what you want. Goodell did not do this for no reason. Zeke wouldn’t have to pay people off in cbus. He beat Michigan so everyone adores him. I’m sure Roger has a much better understanding than you of what happened. If evidence emerges that Zeke did this his career is in trouble. As a buckeye I hope he didn’t do this. I just don’t think Roger is that dumb.

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    Ok, what exactly did Elliott do and why didn’t the police charge him?

  100. This woman seems to have a purposeful intent to get revenge. Perhaps she has a basis.
    however, it does give one pause.
    To call Elliot with such vengeance is wrong. To lie to police as she did is wrong and to
    Tamper with a witness with the intent to cause perjury to a law enforcement official is
    a felony in many states.
    People who criticize Elliot for his ” behavior ” which seems to infer he was involved with
    many woman are just wrong. While some of us might not agree with his lifestyle,
    he was not committing a crime and was not acting unlike a large percentage of similar
    college students.

  101. aarons444 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 2:40 pm

    Then why hasn’t he been charged and convicted of perjury or obstruction of justice?
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    Well, he was cited for contempt of court in Minnesota.

  102. aarons444 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 4:12 pm
    Buffalo Bills: Last playoff game – January 8, 2000. Only 2 seasons over .500 since then.

    Cincinnati Bengals: Haven’t won a Playoff game since 1991.

    Cleveland Browns: Last playoff game – January 5, 2003. 1 winning season since.

    Houston Texans: 106-134 record in their history. Never advanced past the Divisional Round.

    Jacksonville Jaguars: Last playoff game – January 12, 2008. 3 seasons of above .500 records since 2000.

    Kansas City Chiefs: Last playoff win – January 16, 1994.

    Miami Dolphins: 2 playoff appearance since Brady became Pats starter.

    Oakland Raiders: Haven’t won a Playoff game since 2002.

    Tennessee Titans: Last playoff game – January 10, 2009. Three seasons of above .500 records since 2003.

    .. over half of the AFC has been irrelevant since the turn of the century.

    You call that parity?

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    What is your malfunction?

    Fact 1: Parity is something that never really existed pre salary cap, starting in 1993. The only life it has shown as a real thing has been in the salary cap era. Expansion teams and bottom feeder teams actually have made the playoffs (Carolina, Jax, Houston, etc), been to a SB or won a SB (New Orleans).

    Fact 2: While weak at the moment, parity does exist in the NFL, but it’s more of a bad/meidocre variety in the last few years, as the greedy, lazy owners haven’t been tending to the flock as well as they could be, lashing out in anger jealous of a team like the Pats, scouring for ways behind the scenes to cheat them due to a damaged ego.

    Fact 3: Goodell is trying for a more real, tangible parity like in the late 90s, 2000s, and up through about 5 years ago, where it was an actual thing.

    There will always be better, more consistently run organizations at the top in a cap league or no cap league.

    But, a NE, Arizona, NOs, teams with bad ownership in the pre-cap era, never wouldn’t have gone to or won SBs, without the salary cap being a real thing and creating parity.

    Yes.

    This isn’t rocket science to understand this either.

  103. cmoney20 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 12:40 pm
    Zeke stop beating women and then accusing them of harassment after the fact! This is very disturbing

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    This is a perfect example of the NFL cant out of its own way. They took over a year investigating this when all they needed to do was talk to you. But to be fair, it sounds like the cops made the same mistake.

  104. Longest Championship droughts;

    Cardinals 70
    Lions 60
    Eagles 57
    Titans/Oilers 56
    Chargers 54
    Browns 53
    Bills 52
    Falcons 50
    Jets 49
    Chiefs 48

    1/3 of the League hasn’t won anything relevant since the Vietnam War.

    Baseball, with NO cap, and basically no history of financial prudence can’t be accused of that.

    No parity.

  105. aarons444 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 4:12 pm
    You call that parity?
    ==========================
    There’s always the parity from the NBA, MLB and NHL where only the rich teams have a chance at doing anything special annually. You can certainly argue the parity disparity is large in the NFL but the reality is the gap is due in large part to inept owners\coaches\players more than the lack of opportunity. The salary cap and non-guaranteed contracts go a long way to being able to provide that opportunity. That said, the accountability starts with the franchises not the league. For example, if a franchise goes 10+ years without drafting a franchise QB they aren’t going to win. Despite other teams helping to fund that horrible decision. So yeah, I think the NFL is about as good of example as you can find for parity. At least for the opportunity and not the end result.

  106. aarons444 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 4:28 pm
    Longest Championship droughts;

    Cardinals 70
    Lions 60
    Eagles 57
    Titans/Oilers 56
    Chargers 54
    Browns 53
    Bills 52
    Falcons 50
    Jets 49
    Chiefs 48

    1/3 of the League hasn’t won anything relevant since the Vietnam War.

    Baseball, with NO cap, and basically no history of financial prudence can’t be accused of that.

    No parity.

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    You are seriously dumb.

    Parity does not mean a high quality version of it, where a new crap franchise of yesteryear wins the title, with another team doing the same the next year. That would be impossible and unrealistic.

    70% of the league is mediocre, and there’s your parity. 25% is horrendous, and 5% is elite (Pats, Packers, Seattle, Pittsburgh). It’s why the divisional rd is usually a bad game for ratings, too. The team off the Bye, say the loaded Pats, are rested and ready, and some 9-7 Wild Card team that overachieved the week before, gets demolished and the game is over by halftime.

    There is parity, it’s just not strong like they want it. So, for that, yes, the parity quality needs major improvement, but the CBA was such a windfall for the owners with the tv revenue, they sit back and are morons on the other side because the money is already in their pockets.

    That’s why you’re seeing a ratings drop, too. Bad product. Thurs night games are horrific and the market is over-saturated, hence this push to Europe and even China, which is hilarious to think they think that can work.

    Get it?

    The Pats are also a major outlier in this discussion. The greatest GM and coach ever has bucked the concept of parity, which is why he’s a target for cheating by owners and the commissioner.

  107. fireroger says:
    August 15, 2017 at 4:34 pm
    aarons444 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 4:12 pm
    You call that parity?
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    There’s always the parity from the NBA, MLB and NHL where only the rich teams have a chance at doing anything special annually. You can certainly argue the parity disparity is large in the NFL but the reality is the gap is due in large part to inept owners\coaches\players more than the lack of opportunity. The salary cap and non-guaranteed contracts go a long way to being able to provide that opportunity. That said, the accountability starts with the franchises not the league. For example, if a franchise goes 10+ years without drafting a franchise QB they aren’t going to win. Despite other teams helping to fund that horrible decision. So yeah, I think the NFL is about as good of example as you can find for parity. At least for the opportunity and not the end result.

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    Exactly.

    I don’t know why he doesn’t get this. All the cap leagues, save for the NBA have parity. So, really, the NFL and NHL.

    The reason why it’s not working in the awful NBA is because the roster size of 5 for starters, allow for guys to have these arranged “free agent marriages”, which kills any chance at parity.

    Baseball has improved, but even without a cap, the wealthy teams clearly have a leg up, especially in FA and the trade deadlines.

  108. aarons444 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 4:36 pm
    What is your malfunction?
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    Your incessant ignorance.

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    Says a young Millennial getting exposed in a debate and unwilling to learn.

    Sounds about right!

    I weep for our country’s future. I really do.

  109. Says a young Millennial getting exposed in a debate and unwilling to learn.
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    You didn’t expose a thing. Except your excelling stupidity and Patriot homerism.

    Parity, by its very definition, means equality. That does not describe the NFL at any point of its existence. Not today. Not 20 years ago. Not 50 years ago.

    There have always been dynasties in football. There WILL always be dynasties in football. Thats a fact.

  110. monarch76 says:
    August 15, 2017 at 4:00 pm
    Tylawspick6 you can think what you want. Goodell did not do this for no reason. Zeke wouldn’t have to pay people off in cbus. He beat Michigan so everyone adores him. I’m sure Roger has a much better understanding than you of what happened. If evidence emerges that Zeke did this his career is in trouble. As a buckeye I hope he didn’t do this. I just don’t think Roger is that dumb.
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    He suspended Ray Rice 2 games based solely and exclusively on testimony from his wife. When the tape broke he indefinitely suspended him (punishing him for the same crime twice). Despite never “watching the tape”.

    Yeah, he’s that dumb. If you need more go watch any of the 3+ hour spectacles on Thursday night. It will probably help the (not declining) ratings.

  111. realityonetwo says:
    August 15, 2017 at 3:13 pm
    I doubt that either of these two characters is smart enough to “hack into” a phone.
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    Pssshhhhh – Goodell can’t even figure out what to do with the cell logs let alone the phone.

  112. Goodell did the right thing if Zeke really did this. He, however, is grossly inappropriate and lawsuit worthy if he is wrong. This is a classic example of why innocent until proven guilty is a big deal here in the USA.

  113. She could have called him 2 million times AFTER she was physically abused. That does NOT change the physical abuse. Check the photographs of her body. Those bruises are deep. Elliot is lucky she didn’t have a brother because big brothers don’t allow hands being placed on their sister, or mother!

  114. pinestein says:
    August 15, 2017 at 12:34 pm
    It still does not give him the right to hit a woman.

    says who? she told him “i’m a white woman and you’re a black athlete..they wont believe you” maybe some of these dipwads need a smacking around

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