Tony Dungy, Buccaneers contribute to have Tampa Confederate monument removed

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Former Buccaneers coach Tony Dungy helped raise money to have a Confederate monument removed from the front of the courthouse in Downtown Tampa, and the Buccaneers rose to the occasion after Dungy challenged them to help.

After Hillsborough County commissioners decided to remove the statue only if private donors came up with $140,000 for the costs of the project, Dungy wrote on Twitter that he and his wife would put up $5,000. He then challenged the Buccaneers, Tampa Bay Rays and Tampa Bay Lightning to help.

Today, those three teams announced that they’ve done just that, issuing a joint statement that they’ve contributed to the effort, and that the $140,000 total has now been reached.

“Recognizing that this monument does not reflect the values of our community, in collaboration with the Greater Tampa Chamber of Commerce, our organizations have dedicated funds to assist in moving the statue from the public space in front of the courthouse. Now more than ever before, we must stand united and committed to diversity and inclusion as we all attempt to heal from the tragedy in Charlottesville,” the statement said.

The monument is now expected to be removed from public grounds and moved to a private cemetery.

120 responses to “Tony Dungy, Buccaneers contribute to have Tampa Confederate monument removed

  1. I am glad that sports are involved in political agenda. This makes it easier for me to not watch anything these people have their hand in.

    Why don’t remove everything we don’t agree with?

    It never ends. Dungy is worthless anyways. Guy is such a joke.

  2. Confederate ‘heores’ are TRAITORS to this great country who wanted to destroy it ONLY so that they could keep treating human being as property so they could keep getting free money. That is inhuman and unamerican. The comparison to the founding fathers is weak. The founding fathers did great things and had some skeletons in their closets. The confederate ‘heroes’ FAILED at trying to do a BAD thing, breaking of the ole US of A. If you want to celebrate traitors to the republic maybe more to the UK, I think they also had a problem with America.

  3. Unlike the President, I have an issue with this. I love studying American history and appreciate that Lee and Stonewall Jackson were two of the most brilliant military minds of all time. So were Cornwallis, Rommel and Ho Chi Minh, but we never built statues to them.

    If you think removing every piece of potentially offensive American history or artifacts is going to help your safe space — you are in for a long 3.5 years.

  4. Do they even play football anymore? They should all just quit and go into political commentary at this point.

    States built themselves trophies after LOSING a war and instead of people finding that amusing, they’re offended by it. The hypocrisy and virtue signaling from everyone makes me throw up every morning getting out of bed.

  5. When are we going to address the Pirates/ bucaneers and their penchant for robbery, looting, drunkeness and raping woman. another reason the downtrodden are still downtrodden because the lack focus and tend to be easily distracted by fools gold..

  6. jamaltimore says:
    August 17, 2017 at 2:52 pm
    When are we going to address the Pirates/ bucaneers and their penchant for robbery, looting, drunkeness and raping woman. another reason the downtrodden are still downtrodden because the lack focus and tend to be easily distracted by fools gold..

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    Or, the Vikings! They scare me and they were mean people! Get rid of the Vikings name and logo!

  7. So a very small group of wealthy people have decided to erase local history. This shouldn’t be a surprise. It’s going on everywhere. Not just with regard to Confederate monuments. There is a major effort underway in the political left ideology, to rewrite American history the way they want it, in a way that makes them feel good or better. It’s all about our feelings you know. Now they’re using major sports organizations as tools. How manipulative of Tony Dungy to put those organizations on the spot like that. Due to the makeup of their employee rosters and the attack dog media standing by, they really had no choice but to comply. He knew that. But that’s the kind of person he is. Saint Dungy did the same thing to his competitors in the NFL.

  8. This on government property… monument to commemorate those who sought to break the union and continue slavery. Go read up on Gen. Lee… there are personal letters of his where he repeatedly advised those same people who built these monuments to NOT do it. The federalists won and monuments would only prevent us from moving on from a terrible war.
    Its a damn shame private funds have to be raised to move something that should be handled one of two ways:
    a. a private confederate museum can come get it
    b. we push it in a dumpster

  9. liberalmel says:

    August 17, 2017 at 2:43 pm

    I am glad that sports are involved in political agenda. This makes it easier for me to not watch anything these people have their hand in.

    Why don’t remove everything we don’t agree with?
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    I’d say taking down monuments that celebrate the fight for slavery is a pretty good start. You have a personal beef with something that’s better than anti-slavery, let us hear it.

  10. lanman11 says:

    August 17, 2017 at 2:58 pm

    So a very small group of wealthy people have decided to erase local history.
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    Ok. We are all listening. How does this erase history? I googled it just this morning. The Civil War still happened. The south still lost. Slavery is still not legal any longer.

  11. Yeah taking down monuments will solve race relations Lmao. People that are that offended need to get a life… or maybe just a job.

  12. honalulublue says:

    August 17, 2017 at 3:03 pm

    Since this practice is OK, the 1st time I see an Obama statue, it’s coming down, baby.
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    Right. Because he wanted to enslave all white people. Ya. Your post makes a ton of sense.

  13. “keep treating human being as property so they could keep getting free money. ”

    President George Washington once ordered the enslavement of Native Americans (Sullivan expedition).

  14. jamaltimore says:
    August 17, 2017 at 2:52 pm

    When are we going to address the Pirates/ bucaneers and their penchant for robbery, looting, drunkeness and raping woman.
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    They already did at the Pirates of the Caribbean ride at Disney.

  15. I have no problem if people express there distaste for these monuments or they are removed in a lawful manner. What I do have a problem with is revisionist history. The Civil War was a dispute about states rights versus the federal government and specifically the 10th Amendment versus the supremacy doctrine on the article VI of the Constitution. Lincoln made the emancipation proclamation after two years of battles and even then it was not enacted but was a threat in an effort to stop the rebellion. After it did not work it was implemented but only freed slaves in the southern states that had succeeded from the Union. It did now provide a moral back drop for the war and prevented foreign intervention on behalf of the south. Had Lincoln made the emancipation proclamation from the very beginning it may have prevented the war or at least prevented participation by some who were conflicted over it. Lincoln corrected his error in judgment by working to enact the 13th amendment by ANY means, his greatest achievement.

  16. Erase history isn’t smart at all. Doomed to repeat it. Ah the left, mindless drones that are tearing this country apart. Next will the constitution and bill of rights…ya know former slave owners that signed those, so they got to go too.

  17. Sadly, this is only the beginning. I am sure Jefferson’s monument in DC will come under scrutiny. Cue the eventual petition to remove him from the $20 bill. While we are at it, let’s rename all of the States (like mine – Indiana) that are technically incorrect because Columbus had no idea where he was and thus offend Native Americans. Next thing we know, people will be asking for the NFL to change team names…wait.

  18. I’m not black, but I’m really happy to see this gaining momentum. The alt right, uneducated white base that elected Trump, which includes a racist element(not all) that seems to now feel validated, is getting pushed back upon.

  19. I’m from the south and have no issue with the removal of the statues. I mean put yourself in a black persons shoes, every time they walk past one of those things they are reminded that had the south won that war they would still be in chains.

    That being said, had the north not been so hell bent on completely demolishing the south there wouldn’t have been as much backlash and all that faux Dixie pride that still exists today.

  20. peytonwantsaflag says:
    August 17, 2017 at 3:18 pm
    I’m from the south and have no issue with the removal of the statues. I mean put yourself in a black persons shoes, every time they walk past one of those things they are reminded that had the south won that war they would still be in chains.

    That being said, had the north not been so hell bent on completely demolishing the south there wouldn’t have been as much backlash and all that faux Dixie pride that still exists today.
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    Put themselves in a black person’s shoes? Nah, ignorance precludes them from having such perspective.

  21. Unless you live in Hillsborough County, FL, your opinion shouldn’t matter in this. A local community can build or remove any statue it sees fit without harassment from outsiders. That’s called freedom. If you or your community don’t like it, have one built in your own town. Heck, offer to take the unwanted one off their hands. Don’t whine about history being removed; history exists in books still. Pick one up.

  22. I am So Tired of Tony Dungy and his holier than thou act. Your Retired, Be Retired and you only won 1 super bowl. It’s not like you invented the game or anything.

  23. Gotta love the irony of guys swearing off wasting their time on the NFL because they don’t agree with the political stances of it’s representatives…commenting on NFL news posts within moments of it being published. You’re doing it wrong guys.

  24. All of these people encouraging statue removal have not yet taken down Robert Byrd’s statue. he was a Democrat in the KKK. Wouldn’t that meet their criteria for statue removal? it still stands and no one is going after it. Hmmm. I wonder why.

  25. We fought a war against slavey the same way we were part of a worldwide alliance to fight fascism. Anyone who somehow thinks the long disproven arguments of fascism and white supremacy are some sort of valid “side” is a sad and pathetic human being. Slavery and monuments celebrating it have no place in our society. Fascism and those who support it have no place in our society. The fascists were the single most vile and despicable group in all of human history responsible for 60+ million deaths.

    And some of you people are honestly supporting monuments to slavery and fascism? Really?

  26. I find it hilarious people are mad that loser statues are coming down! 9.5 people angry about a confederate statue are white. They keep finding for the survival of their kind. I respect that but will laugh still..

  27. I have to laugh at all those who have been screaming about SJWs and Snowlfakes who are now whining themselves at having their own “loser participation trophies” i.e. Confederate statues being taken down. waaaaahhhh! boo hoo! waaaahhh! liberal media! so unfair! Washington had slaves too! waaaaahhhhh! communism! marxism!! gulag!!! oh boo hoo ladies.

  28. Next up, Mount Rushmore – remove Thomas Jefferson, after all, he owned hundreds of slaves at his Monticello plantation.

    I’m being sarcastic of course, but it you get my drift.

  29. I liked to pretend things didn’t happen. Then I turned 8 and realized I had to deal with reality.

  30. I understand the history arguments, but these statues were never about preserving history. Otherwise why was there so much outrage in Florida when people wanted to erect Union monuments? Florida sent 15000 men to fight in the Confederate army and 3500 men to the Union? What of these men? What of the black units that defended Fort Myers or were given no quarter and slaughter while laying wounded on the battle field at Olustee?

    They don’t get remembered in front of court houses or state houses or schools named after them; because the point was to remind blacks who have the power in the world.

  31. richndc says:
    August 17, 2017 at 3:30 pm
    I have to laugh at all those who have been screaming about SJWs and Snowlfakes who are now whining themselves at having their own “loser participation trophies” i.e. Confederate statues being taken down. waaaaahhhh! boo hoo! waaaahhh! liberal media! so unfair! Washington had slaves too! waaaaahhhhh! communism! marxism!! gulag!!! oh boo hoo ladies.

    Hey richndc, how did you feel on election night? And when Obama left office? Were you going Waaahhhh too???

  32. Yet, in Seattle there stands a statue of Vladimir Lenin.

    Sanitizing the past does not change a thing. Too bad the do-gooders don’t comprehend that.

  33. Are George Washington statues next? He owned slaves so by the logic of these nutjobs, he should have his statues and monuments torn down. What about statues of people back then who said blacks were inferior? Abe Lincoln was one of them as were most white people.

    Liberals need to be stopped as all this is getting way out of hand.

  34. Good job. If there is any money left over, please donate it to remove all statues and names from buildings of former Democrat Senator Robert Bryd, a KKK member and Exalted Cyclops…whatever that racist title is.

  35. I’m a southerner, born and raised, and I support these changes. I’m a white guy so I can’t really understand where others might be coming from, as far as offensive imagery goes, but I try and put myself in the other person’s shoes. I really think we need to try our best to get past our sordid and bloody history and come together, not as blacks, whites, hispanics, etc., but as AMERICANS. Hanging onto confederate imagery, which (like it or not) DOES point to slavery, is clinging to an embarrasing part of our history. I can’t see anyone who isn’t at least slightly racist wanting that type of thing to stick around.

  36. Oh GREAT…..another statue comes down…..racism is finally gone! If we close are eyes REAL tight…I bet we can pretend nothing bad ever happened!!! BUT….if we remove all symbols of that bad thing…we can pretend with our eyes open!!!!

  37. Divided and conquer is why Trump was allowed to win

    Clinton was so bad we could all unite against her.
    Trump supporters are a special kind of ignorant not to see nothing changes inauguration day.

  38. Well, here we go again. It’s another example of how to start a new controversy. Are we going to have people start pushing to take down Martin Luther King statues and monuments now, too?
    Here’s my take on Confederate monuments, etc.
    Most of the people who fought for the south did so out of loyalty to their state. It was more an issue of not having the people in the north tell them what they could and could not do than it was about slavery for many people. That debate started from day one. Those who thought there should be a strong federal government were followers of Alexander Hamilton and James Madison, and those who were in favor of each state having stronger power followed people like Thomas Jefferson.
    My great grandfather fought for the North and there is no doubt where my allegiance lies. The right side won the war. But — the descendants of those who fought for the Confederacy want their great grandfathers and grandmothers remembered, too. So I understand why they will be hurt by actions such as this one.
    It’s no secret that our U.S. Cavalry massacred Native Indians and drove them off their lands during the 19th century. Should the statues of men who fought for those cavalry regiments be taken down? Should we do away with the monuments at Little Bighorn?
    My point is, maybe we all ought to take a deep breath and stop all this rush to right history by trying to eliminate it. Our history is our history and I believe we should remember all of it, not just a part of it. Whitewashing history is nothing more than a lie.
    And I am not for a moment saying we should take down monuments of Martin Luther King. He was a great American who tried to do things which needed to be done, and paid for it with his life.
    In the case of Confederate monuments, etc, I think we would be better served to remove them and place them together in Confederate museums and parks. That way those people who had Confederate relatives will have places to go to honor their ancestors.

  39. What’s going on is simply moving statues from prominent locations. There should be no problem with moving these to museums to still see.

  40. evrybdyhas1 says:

    August 17, 2017 at 3:13 pm

    I have no problem if people express there distaste for these monuments or they are removed in a lawful manner. What I do have a problem with is revisionist history. The Civil War was a dispute about states rights versus the federal government and specifically the 10th Amendment versus the supremacy doctrine on the article VI of the Constitution. Lincoln made the emancipation proclamation after two years of battles and even then it was not enacted but was a threat in an effort to stop the rebellion. After it did not work it was implemented but only freed slaves in the southern states that had succeeded from the Union. It did now provide a moral back drop for the war and prevented foreign intervention on behalf of the south. Had Lincoln made the emancipation proclamation from the very beginning it may have prevented the war or at least prevented participation by some who were conflicted over it. Lincoln corrected his error in judgment by working to enact the 13th amendment by ANY means, his greatest achievement
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    The amount of disinformation and sheer foolishness in this post is amazing.

    The Civil War killed more Americans than any other war this country has ben involved in. Nobody did that because of some tariff disputes or who drew what line where. It happened because Southern slave owning white supremacists decided to destroy the United States of America instead of eventually losing their slaves and social status; changing their privileged way of life forever.

    Quoting “States Rights” or Constitutional phrases was then and is now sheer rationalization used by racists to justify their bigotry.

    The Emancipation Proclamation was established as part of the President’s war powers. Yes, it only applied to slaves in the seceded states, but it was pretty effective from the get go. As soon as black slaves learned of it, and they knew Union troops were in the area, thousands abandoned their homes and walked to freedom. The South lost man power and the Union gained it, as well as having a new source for troops. That’s why it was legitimate – it helped the war effort. Lincoln stressed this when he announced it.

    BTW, black men, either free blacks or freed slaves, who fought for the Union knew they would be summarily executed as escaped slaves/rebels if they were captured. Several instances of this are well documented, most notably at Fort Pillow.
    You want statues – THESE men were heroes, build memorials to them.

  41. Also, you can tell who listens to backward right wing radio. Get an original thought guys because they’re putting you out there to sound stupid repeating their talking points. If you can’t understand the difference between traitors to our country and our founding fathers, no matter their flaws, I don’t know what to tell you. You are brain dead, and nothing you say is going to stop the world from progressing past ignorance.

  42. People need to realize this isn’t erasing history at all. It’s a path to putting it on proper context. These statues can be a part of museums and displays that can help better put context on why these men decided to commit to treason. They have no business being displayed in the celebrated fashion with which they’ve been. Next we can work on this whole war of northern aggression BS too…

  43. Though taking down the statues of American traitors doesn’t solve any problems in regards to race relations, it sure as heck does one thing: Makes a statement that there are parts of our history as a country that we shouldn’t be proud of. Confederate soldiers fought to uphold slavery, which violates the foundations this country was “built on” idc how you slice it, that was the reasoning for the war. To honor these men and revere them as American heroes is not only sickening but a slap in the face to everyone whose ancestors dealt with the hardships of slavery. Must people be reminded that segregation ended in the 70s and we aren’t that far removed from ugly instances of bigotry in American history?

  44. Since everyone is stating their race, I’m white. And i’m not ignorant enough to assume that I could possibily know what its like to step in a black persons’ shoes. So I wont sit here and act like I can imagine how they feel when they walk by statues.

    I am from Germany and the months July & August offend me because the two people who these months represent enslaved my people. Can we get rid of them?

  45. Yeah, “can’t change history”, so keep the Confederate statues, etc. Right. Just like the Germans should’ve been allowed to have all their Nazi statues and symbols left standing? Hey, that’s “history”, so same logic here alt-righties in that you want to glorify 2 reprehensible regimes and the soldiers that fought to keep them in place ’cause “history”!

  46. Most of our forefathers in the 1700’s and 1800’s has slaves as servants and housekeepers.
    Most have their pictures on our money.

    I understand what the confederate war was all about. It was 1861. But it was part of our history as a country. I’m not 100% sure removing these monuments is the absolute correct thing to do. Yes they represent the events and men of the confederate forces who seceded from the U.S. I think the statutes represent 2 important facts. Slavery was wrong. But also it should be thought of as a part of history we do not want to occur again. Just my 2 cents.
    Peace to all, and treat your neighbors as equals regardless of race or color.

  47. I think the statues can be removed and still be afforded respect as artwork from the Confederacy in museums.

    I’m not losing any sleep over this issue in either case, but yeah, it always seemed kind of dumb to me that we have statues immortalizing traitors to our union.

  48. You all need to go back to school and learn about the civil war. It’s kind of disgusting the limited knowledge here.

  49. I am shocked at so many people defending confederate monuments.

    No one is trying to re-write history. They are trying to remove statues and monuments that glamorize TRAITOR AMERICANS that symbolized a time when it was legal to own another person. Let that sink in for a minute. You could actually own someone. That’s the legacy you are fighting to preserve.

    To all of my fellow 2nd AMENDMENT ADVOCATES, the South were nothing but American traitors! They were anti-Constitution.

    And, no, the Civil War wasn’t fought over states’ rights vs. federal rights. This was fought for one reason: for the South to keep slavery going. Period.

    You can’t justify the South’s traitorous actions by defending it as some sort of Constitutional disagreement. So many of you are so hardcore about the 2nd AMENDMENT but seem to be absolutely fine with the South basically tearing up the ENTIRE constitution and wiping their backsides with it. That’s what they did when they chose to secede from the Union.

    You want to preserve this ugly, dark part of history, fine. Put all of the Confederate statues in a museum (along with Joe Paterno’s), not a public place that people are forced to walk past every day.

  50. You cannot bring prosperity by discouraging thrift.
    You cannot help small men by tearing down big men.
    You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
    You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.
    You cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich.
    You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than your income.
    You cannot further brotherhood of men by inciting class hatred.
    You cannot establish security on borrowed money.
    You cannot build character and courage by taking away man’s initiative and independence.
    You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves.

  51. maestro1899 says:
    August 17, 2017 at 4:30 pm
    I am shocked at so many people defending confederate monuments.

    No one is trying to re-write history. They are trying to remove statues and monuments that glamorize TRAITOR AMERICANS that symbolized a time when it was legal to own another person.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Do you feel the same way about George Washington and Thomas Jefferson ??? They had slaves. I believe Jefferson even produced 6 children with a slave. Should we burn our money ?

  52. @TheVikingsHaveHowManySBTrophys?

    Big difference. GW and TJ helped found the country. Confederate soldiers tried to destroy the country. Slavery is wrong in both instances, but it was the Confederate soldiers who stood in the way of societal progress and tried to DESTROY our country.

    Such a weak argument. I wonder where you got that from? 45?

  53. @maestro1899

    There’s also the rather embarassing detail of most of the monuments going up 50 years after the War. In conjunction with the birth of “Lost Cause” narrative. And a second wave of these monuments, in direct response to the growth of the Civil Rights movement, 50 years after that.

  54. 1stargazer ,

    I agree. Don’t move them. Take them to the trash. That’s cheaper. If you’re worried about some kids having money, take your checkbook out and give them some.

  55. Yep, nothing else going on in the country that needs or deserves more attention….so let’s tear down some statues so that we can feel good about ourselves. Last time I checked there wasn’t anything in the constitution that says people have the right to not be offended. If these SJW’s want to do something to help people, how about going to Chicago and stopping all the killings going on there! Oh, that’s right, statues don’t shoot back when smack talked.

  56. We’re doomed, seriously. Holy cow,

    In 30 days, when all of this madness blows over, select 20 people at random, show them a photograph of the young lady who was killed over the weekend and ask what her name is. Not one out of the 20 will be able to answer the question.

    Show the same people a photo of one of the statues that’s being torn down. Ask them to name the person immortalized with the statue. You’ll get the same blank stare you got in response to the first question.

  57. I love how we have an opioid epidemic, but we are raising hundreds of thousands of dollars to take down rocks. These are things that happened in history. It’s not like they celebrate slavery. No body judges someone by the color of their skin anymore. If you’re selling opioids to school kids, I discriminate against you no matter what your skin looks like.

  58. kcflake says:
    August 17, 2017 at 5:06 pm

    If people lived by the golden rule, the world would be a Much Better place. Sadly, certain groups will never allow that to happen.
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    The NFL lives by the golden rule. They have the gold, so they make the rules.

  59. These activities paint the nation into a corner, and the left dreams that by doing these things they will achieve total victory, but they don’t understand that far more people wish to think what they want rather than be told what to think. I wish more people could see the path farther down and not just 5 feet in front of them. It’s going to be ugly, and we won’t have anyone else but ourselves to blame. Sure the left will blame the right and vice versa, but in the end a paradigm shift will be set into motion that cannot be reversed. Intolerance is intolerance no matter what the intolerant supposedly stand for.

    Support these activities at your peril.

  60. Next time, they should charge folks five or ten bucks a whack with a sledge hammer, and then they can make some money out of it.

  61. It’s a sad place in time. Can we change February to American history month and can we learn how every migrant ethnic was a slave at some point to this country. Get over it . Hard work equals success no matter what color

  62. i called the baltimore mayors office today. i asked if since the statues were removed tuesday night, if the crime rate had dropped to zero and if everyone is holding hands and singing? they said yes, and that no drugs were being sold anymore, and everyone is in perfect guaranteed health till age 95!! wow, i was surprised

  63. There actually is a real movement to remove monuments of Thomas Jefferson. Just google it. Secondly are military has ceremonies where we honor the men who fought on the side of Japan in World War 2. You can disagree with your enemy but still respect their bravery and heroism. After Robert E. Lee lost in the Civil War he worked towards bringing our nation closer together. What’s wrong with remembering that?

  64. I’m currently living in Florida and a lot of people are already boycotting the Buccaneers and the Rays.

    ESPN entered the field of race and politics and they’re almost dead, the NFL is heading into that same general direction.

  65. There is a good reason no NFL team chose ‘Stormtroopers’ to be their mascot. Glad to see the facist tRump and the remnants of the losers of the secession going down.

  66. evrybdyhas1 says:
    August 17, 2017 at 3:13 pm
    I have no problem if people express there distaste for these monuments or they are removed in a lawful manner. What I do have a problem with is revisionist history. The Civil War was a dispute about states rights versus the federal government and specifically the 10th Amendment versus the supremacy doctrine on the article VI of the Constitution.

    … …..

    You are the one promoting revisionist history. If you read the secessionist proclamations of the southern states they very clearly call out the right to own slaves as the major reason for secession, along with the “natural order” of blacks being inferior to whites. Slavery was the only states’ right they were willing to secede over and fight for.

    States’ Rights became a modern-day revisionist explanation for the war when Nixon used it as part of his campaigning to appeal to former Dixiecrats in 1968. “States’ Rights” and “Law and Order” had definite racial connotations and were part of the GOP’s “southern strategy” to appeal to white southern voters who were unhappy with the Democrats passing the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

  67. You can disagree with your enemy but still respect their bravery and heroism

    …and you can do all that without building statues for white supremacists to rally around.

  68. There is a persistent, yet woefully incorrect, understanding of American history which advances the wrongful notion that the Civil War was fought to free the slaves in the South. I was taught this B.S. in school and, like most Americans, always accepted it as settled historical fact. In a nutshell, the truth of the matter is that the Civil War was fought so that Northern industrial and banking interests could take control of the agricultural base of the South. Slavery was very much a side issue.

    Furthermore, it is equally erroneous to subscribe to the simple-minded notions that Abraham Lincoln was the kind-hearted compassionate champion of enslaved blacks, and that Robert E. Lee was a tyrannical monster intent on keeping African-Americans in chains forever. Consider the following quotes from each man.

    “I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.” Abraham Lincoln, Fourth Debate with Stephen A. Douglas at Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858

    Contrast Lincoln’s words with those of Robert E. Lee:
    So far from engaging in a war to perpetuate slavery, I am rejoiced that Slavery is abolished. I believe it will be greatly for the interest of the South. So fully am I satisfied of this that I would have cheerfully lost all that I have lost by the war, and have suffered all that I have suffered to have this object attained.

    Historical revisionists: Consider your ox gored!

  69. Confederate ‘heores’ are TRAITORS to this great country who wanted to destroy it ONLY so that they could keep treating human being as property so they could keep getting free money. That is inhuman and unamerican. The comparison to the founding fathers is weak. The founding fathers did great things and had some skeletons in their closets. The confederate ‘heroes’ FAILED at trying to do a BAD thing, breaking of the ole US of A. If you want to celebrate traitors to the republic maybe more to the UK, I think they also had a problem with America.
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    Yikes dude. Uk banned slavery first. Slavery was a worldwide practice. They were bought and sold by muslims and africans to the whites. Blacks also fought for the south. You have statues of lenin in washington and streets named after malcom x. The confederate statues are of AMERICANS. If you think the civil war was about slavery you have no right to even comment on it

  70. So Lincoln changed his mind long before the Civil War and Lee only changed his mind long after he lost it? Got it.

  71. “We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable.

    That in this free government all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding States.”

    – Texas Declaration of Secession

    lol states rights

  72. Since this practice is OK, the 1st time I see an Obama statue, it’s coming down, baby.

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    See, the problem here is that generally speaking, racists are pretty stupid. Comparing Obama to General Lee means you are 12 and haven’t learned history yet or you are an adult with the mind of a 12 year old.

    These statues were put up in the Jim Crow era and we’re meant to intimidate blacks in racist communities with racist past that many still agree with.

    This site seems to be full of little racist boys who think it’s fun to say things they would never say in mixed company. Enjoy yourself I guess but the joke is on you. It is making you a more terrible person and life is a long time. Karma and all…

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