Pete Carroll on Jeremy Lane ejection: I didn’t see a punch at all

AP

The Seahawks lost a key part of their defense in the first quarter of Sunday’s loss to the Packers when cornerback Jeremy Lane was ejected from the game.

Officials said Lane threw a punch at Packers wide receiver Davante Adams while the two men were tangled up during an interception return by defensive tackle Nazair Jones. Replays showed Adams with a healthy grab of Lane’s facemask but no clear evidence of a punch, which left questions for Seahawks coach Pete Carroll about more than his team’s poor offensive performance when he met the media.

Carroll said he’d seen a replay of the play on his phone and was “disappointed” that the officials didn’t do more to confer before throwing Lane out. He also added that he was “anxious” to hear the league’s comments on the call.

“I didn’t see the punch at all. … It’s just such a drastic thing to do that I wish they would have had cooperation from more than one official because it’s such a big call,” Carroll said in his postgame press conference. 

Jones returned the interception for a touchdown, but it was called back due to an illegal block in the back penalty against defensive end Cliff Avril. The call was a borderline one and Carroll didn’t say if he thought it was a bad one, but said Avril didn’t need to block Aaron Rodgers and leave the door open for a call.

Carroll was also asked about a non-call on a throw to tight end Jimmy Graham in the end zone in the second half of the game. Carroll said he saw “three guys jumping” on Graham, but that officials told him the ball was “clearly overthrown.” Carroll said he thought it hit the white paint at the back of the end zone, but the team settled for a field goal on a day that would end without a touchdown in a 17-9 loss.

78 responses to “Pete Carroll on Jeremy Lane ejection: I didn’t see a punch at all

  1. That’s because there was no punch. Lane was getting absolutely mugged and there was NO flag. Davante Adams had him by the face mask and held on almost all the way to the ground. Adams should have been penalized and fined heavily. Instead the refs pretty much handed the game to GB. SMH

  2. “The guys on the field had to call it and they called it the way they saw it. It didn’t work out for you guys and it worked out for us. We had a great celebration on it. We’ll all have our own debate about that,” Carroll said.

    “That referee was standing right there looking right down at it and he didn’t miss what he saw. He just saw it that Golden Tate made the catch. He wasn’t confused. He called what he saw. Sports are like that.”

  3. Don’t let it confuse you Pete, against a defense the whole league laughs at, Russell Wilson didn’t muster a single TD, was 52% and lost a fumble that led to the Packers first TD. And Daniels hardly hit Wilson to knock that ball out.

    So in the last 4 games – that’s 4 total TDs, 10 INTs and 12 sacks. But hey, Wilson is “elite”.

  4. There was no punch, and the illegal block penalty was a joke as well. Graham had both arms held in the end zone, no call. Refs took 11 points off the board for the Seahawks, deciding the game in the Packers favor. Pre-determined outcome.

  5. teal379 says:
    September 10, 2017 at 8:35 pm
    Don’t let it confuse you Pete, against a defense the whole league laughs at, Russell Wilson didn’t muster a single TD, was 52% and lost a fumble that led to the Packers first TD. And Daniels hardly hit Wilson to knock that ball out.

    So in the last 4 games – that’s 4 total TDs, 10 INTs and 12 sacks. But hey, Wilson is “elite”.
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    5 straight years of 10+ wins, 5 straight playoff appearances, 2 Super Bowls and 1 Lombardi that should have been two had it not been for the worst play call in NFL history.

    He’s #2 all-time in passer rating ahead of Brady, Manning and Marino in the regular season, and #9 all-time in the playoffs, ahead of Brady, Aikman, Manning, Favre, etc…

    147 TD passes in his first five years, 8-4 in playoff games/Super Bowls, 3,000 career rushing yards, 15 rushing TDs, only player in NFL history to pass for 300 yards and run for 100 yards in a single game…

    1 of only 9 QBs in NFL history to have 3 or more 100+ Passer Rating seasons. The other 8 are Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, And Ben Roethlisberger.

    QBs with multiple seasons of 100+ passer rating & 400+ rushing yards:
    Steve Young, 4x
    Russell Wilson, 3x

    That’s not just “elite,” it’s Hall of Fame.

  6. No punch was ever thrown.
    It was disappointing that Lane was ejected.
    It shouldn’t have happened.
    But, that doesn’t mean there were no fouls on the play.
    Davonte Adams clearly initiates contact and Lane took the bait.
    How many times do you see the player who retaliates draw the flag?
    And whether Aikmen or Buck like it or not, there is clearly a block in the back against Rodgers.

    And again, the ball thrown to Graham (If it honestly was) was clearly uncatchable.
    I feel bad that the referee didn’t convey this to the two knuckleheads in the booth.
    Anybody with eyes should be able to discern this.

    I could easily bitch about Davante Adams getting knocked to the ground on a long pass play, if I just wanted to ignore certain aspects of the rules. So I won’t.
    But, does anyone else find it odd that you can’t even trash talk anymore without it costing you 15 yards.

    Great game by Green Bay’s Defense.
    Their performance was promising which kept this a close game throughout, but that O-line has to protect better than they did today or it’s going to be a long season.

    I’m quite sure Green Bay hasn’t seen the last of Seattle and hopefully our next meeting will again be at Lambeau Field.
    The Haters are going to hate, but it’s on to Atlanta where the Pack will have their hands full again.

  7. largentthanlife says:
    September 10, 2017 at 8:35 pm

    Did you just infer todays refs were ‘replacement ref level’?

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    No, actually he implied it. You inferred it.

  8. Terrible calls. Worst was hearing Blandino agree. Last year he would have defended the calls until the end of time. Interesting that now he is not under Rog that his true opinions come out.

  9. if, as the one commenter said, both of grahams arms were being held, how did he manage to grab the helmet of one of the defender with both hands and twist. watch the replay

  10. tvguy22 says:
    September 10, 2017 at 8:52 pm
    largentthanlife says:
    September 10, 2017 at 8:35 pm

    Did you just infer todays refs were ‘replacement ref level’?

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    No, actually he implied it. You inferred it.

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    I didn’t. I just let Carroll’s words do the talking about officiating calls.

  11. Horrible calls. Absolutely terrible. BUT if the Seahawks had played better it wouldn’t have mattered. As they say in the UFC never leave it to the refs. Packers shouldn’t be overly thrilled because they weren’t much better. Had the bad calls gone the other way the outcome would be different. Love my hawks but we need to be play way better.

  12. There is no such thing as an uncatchable ball rule. Every uncatchable ball PI non-call is ALSO defensive holding after 5 yards. Its a shame refs are too stupid to realize this.

  13. I thought the ejection was a bad call but you have to play well enough to overcome it, at least it was at the beginning of the game and not the end. Bad calls will happen every game, Seattle did nothing against the Green Bay defense the whole game. Unless Lane can also play on Seattle’s O-line, it didn’t matter if he was ejected or not.

  14. gbpackfan3 says:
    September 10, 2017 at 8:27 pm
    There was clearly no punch thrown. Today’s refs made some bad calls, almost as bad as the failmary
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    To this day it amazes me how there are people out there that do not realize the Fail Mary was the correct call. Let me say that again so it is clear. THE FAIL MARY WAS THE CORRECT CALL. Seattle scored the touchdown. Search “Why the Seahawks-Packers finish was not an interception” and read the first result if you do not believe me.

  15. Man, it is rich to hear Seahag fan cry about the refs costing them a game.

    It sucks that Lane got thrown out, pretty weak sauce.

    I would be far more concerned about the ‘improved’ O-Line for Seattle if I were a fan of that squad.

    That group flat out sucks.

  16. seahawkboymike says:
    September 10, 2017 at 8:40 pm
    There was no punch, and the illegal block penalty was a joke as well. Graham had both arms held in the end zone, no call. Refs took 11 points off the board for the Seahawks, deciding the game in the Packers favor. Pre-determined outcome.

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    A Seahawk fan complaining about reffing is the height of irony. The better team won today. Period. Take the L like a grown up and hope you get another shot in the playoffs.

  17. There were bad calls both ways – what was going on with Lane anyway?? He caused the normally mild and team oriented Cobb to take a rather cheap 15 yarder – maybe the refs heard something and that influenced their later flag – after all you get a reputation and then get the calls = and this guy has a cheaper than cheap shot reputation. Did he punch him – didnt see it – did he put an armbar on Adams throat – yes. Did Avril push 16 in the back – why let them make that call?? Carroll is the biggest cheater ever to be allowed to coach in the NFL – some people say that he should be banned for what he did at USC- from ever coaching again – and the Seehawks lead the NFL in suspensions over the past 10 years – so one can infer something there

  18. For all of you bring up the supposed “Fail Mary”, go back and watch the tape.

    The ONLY reason the Packers had the lead in that game was a terrible call in favor of Green Bay that allowed them to score the go-ahead touchdown.

    But the media made up the narrative that Seattle didn’t deserve to win, so they never ever mentioned the earlier bad call.

  19. tvguy22 says:
    September 10, 2017 at 8:52 pm
    largentthanlife says:
    September 10, 2017 at 8:35 pm

    Did you just infer todays refs were ‘replacement ref level’?

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    No, actually he implied it. You inferred it.

    ___________________________

    Touché.

  20. qoojo says:
    September 10, 2017 at 9:11 pm
    tvguy22 says:
    September 10, 2017 at 8:52 pm
    largentthanlife says:
    September 10, 2017 at 8:35 pm

    Did you just infer todays refs were ‘replacement ref level’?

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    No, actually he implied it. You inferred it.

    *********************************************

    I didn’t. I just let Carroll’s words do the talking about officiating calls.

    _________________________________

    Best part of all this is when I typed my comment, yours hadn’t posted yet. I was directing it towards this one;

    ‘Same eagle eyes that spotted a simultaneous catch in the end zone.’

  21. In the interest of time, the officials should just post the scores of these games without the hassle of people having to play them. This would save a world of hurt for the players, tons of money for the fans and it would cut down tremendously on illegal gambling. The worst thing in sports for decades has been officials and their bad calls. So many times it dictates the momentum or stops the momentum and changes the outcome of the game.

  22. Man, Seahawk fans whine more than Viking fans. I’d PI wasn’t called on the Adams take down, then PI shouldn’t have been called on the Graham play. I don’t see any Seahawk fans mentioning the Adams non-call. Is that because Buck and Aikman agreed with the non-call?

    And until Jeremy Lane becomes an All Pro, his absence doesn’t swing the outcome of the game. Give me a break. Who cares about that call. The call in question was the block in the back, which the refs called consistently all game.

  23. I will agree there was no punch but Lane had a player on his back and was administering a forearm to the guy’s throat and was basically choking him with a forearm shiver. I don’t remember if the ref’s said a “Punch” but it definitely was dirty, which is exactly the type of program Cheating Pete runs where ever he is employed.

    It’s rich to hear the Seahawks fans complain about Ref’s giving away a game. The last time that truly happened, the NFL was so outraged that they settled the ref’s strike the very next day. The irony is that Cheating Pete told the media he thought the ref’s got that call right with a straight face so he deserves any karma following back his way.

  24. The one time Fox showed it at full speed it was obvious that Lane was the aggressor and very much deserving of the ejection. Just because Buck and Aikman are tools doesn’t mean you can’t think for yourself.

  25. Who listens to Buck and Aikman? The last thing I heard either one of them say was when Buck said they’d been working together for 16 years… and I smiled and shook my head in disbelief while turning the volume waaay down.

  26. Ugly game. Congrats to the Packers. If the GB trolls think “karma” doesn’t work both ways, then they’re in for a surprise when the bad will they’re building up here comes back to bite them.

  27. In my mind, the ejection was unwarranted. I never saw a punch but there was no camera on it until we saw Adams with Lane’s face mask in a death grip. The punch may have occurred before that or the ref mistook Lane’s forearm shiver to Adams’ facemask as a punch. Easy to do at game speed. Either way, the ejection seemed overly harsh.

    The block in the back, although “minor”, was a good call. Rodgers had the angle and the speed to at least stop Jones from reaching the end zone… until Avril knocked Rodgers off course with 2 hands to the back and extended his arms. They’ll call that every time. The penalty cost them a little yardage but it didn’t cost them the touchdown as the touchdown would never have occurred if Avril hadn’t committed the foul. It was a better call than it would have been a non call.

    There were missed calls all around. Poor officiating overall. Seattle got the worst of it.

  28. Bad calls do happen every game. But, it’s very rare when 1 bad call takes away a TD and a starter on defense, and another bad no call in the end zone results in a field goal instead of first and goal. It’s a shame, and it’s bad for the game. This game should of/could of been a great game. The officials ruled otherwise. And no, I won’t discuss a hail mary play from years ago from the replacement refs. I like to stay in the here and now.

  29. Weak call for sure. But I felt like I knew how the game was going to turn out when Odhiambo absolutely housed on the first 2 plays. Seems like it’s going to be a repeat of the last couple years. Points will be hard to come by, defense will be top tier and start to give late in the game when they’re gassed from being on the field for so long. At least Blair Walsh will get in good reps. Here’s do another playoff appearance with a loss in the divisional round.

  30. Block in the back was ticky tacky, but still contact to the back of Rodgers while he was pursuing the play.

    Throw to Graham was uncatchable.

    The punch wasn’t a punch. It was the forearm pressing down on the throat of Adams. Ref announcing the penalty wasn’t the one who saw it. Verbiage got confused.

  31. It did appear the officials preferred cheese to coffee yesterday, but it also looked like Russell played scared the first half. At the end of the day, if you wait until the 4th quarter to play to win you are probably going to lose, and that’s a tough pill to swallow. Shout out to our D-Line for holding on as long as they could, welcome back ET.

  32. I think the guy that pushed Rodgers was trying to send him flying into the sidelines, but you know what? He wasn’t fast enough. Rodgers can motor, and the guy couldn’t get there fast enough and took the only QB-hurting opportunity he had……..and failed.

    Do I feel sorry about that call? Not one bit.

  33. I can see why Seahawks fans have a big problem with this.

    And if you eject Lane for what he did, why wasn’t Martellus Bennett ejected for shoving the LB who took a shot on Rodgers? THat was more egregious from what I saw of the Lane-Adams exchange.

    I don’t care what the refs do as long as they’re consistent. They weren’t yesterday.

  34. Throw to Graham was uncatchable.
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    Looked like he was more concerned with playing defense on the play than going after the ball.

    Graham was flat out terrible yesterday. I’d be more worried about that if I were a Seahawk fan than a non-call, imagined or not.

  35. Look… anyone and everyone that watches the NFL understands that the Seahawks get away with more than most teams. Constant jersey grabbing by the secondary, and the safeties lead with the helmet and launch themselves at defenseless receivers whenever they can.

    You’re not going to get any sympathy from anyone.

    In fact, if every game is called this way for the Seahawks this year, it still won’t be nearly enough.

    The Packers were better on both sides of the ball, and deserved the win.

  36. Packers first offensive play of the season: Defensive holding. Of course.
    This was followed directly by Aaron “Brett Bart Starr Favre” Rodgers throwing a pick six; Naturally, it was called back because a guy lightly touched Aaron Rodgers’ shoulder for less than a tenth of a second during a play in which a packer receiver pulled a Seattle defender to the ground by his facemask. No worries, though. The officials promptly fixed that by ejecting one of the Seahawks’ starting corners.
    Not much later, in the end zone, Jimmy Graham was interfered with in the most pass interfering way you can commit pass interference, but the officials let it slide because Green Bay. I looked at the Packer fan I was watching the game with and he just laughed…because it was hilarious.
    Then Aaron Rodgers got some first downs by rocking back in his stance while yelling “three nineteeeeeeeeen!” (he really likes the number 319) right before the ball was snapped, but that’s only illegal for quarterbacks of other teams.
    Then the Packers scored on another free play when they subbed in late and the officials didn’t pause the play clock to allow the defense to match up even though they’re supposed to and they do it for every other team in the NFL and the announcers said “No one in the league catches the opposing defense with 12 men on the field as much as Aaron Rodgers.” Gee, I wonder why.
    Then the Packers fans lustily booed the officials for not calling a horsecollar on a guy who softly brushed a Packers player’s facemask with his pinky. They weren’t doing this ironically. These people were actually mad —— at the refs —– seriously.

  37. Packers were not better on both sides of the ball. They had Aaron Rodgers…..that is why they won this HOME game. Wilson played his best Flacco impression, and once again the Packers got the best of them. So for 1 half during the Fail Mary, and 4 minutes left in the NFCCG the Seahawks under Wilson have outplayed Rodgers and the Pack. That’s it. Glossy eyed Wilson needs to take some of this blame instead of all Oline.

  38. Packers were not better on both sides of the ball. They had Aaron Rodgers…..that is why they won this HOME game.
    =====

    Their defense absolutely owned you. Wilson only put up a 69 passer rating, and the backs only got 53 yards on 15 carries. Only 3 sacks, but constant pressure.

    Thats as good a defensive performance as the Packers have had in the last few years.

    And that wasn’t vintage Rodgers by any means. Carrolls scheme and personnel shuts him down better than anyone.

    I’m hoping for a rematch in January. This is a really good rivalry, and usually the contests are highly competetive.

  39. cheeseisfattening says:
    September 10, 2017 at 9:33 pm
    To this day it amazes me how there are people out there that do not realize the Fail Mary was the correct call. Let me say that again so it is clear. THE FAIL MARY WAS THE CORRECT CALL. Seattle scored the touchdown. Search “Why the Seahawks-Packers finish was not an interception” and read the first result if you do not believe me.
    //////////////////////////////////////////////

    And Tate did not clearly and purposefully push two players from behind, hard and in plain view, in order to clear a space for himself. Nope, he did not. He didn’t. He really didn’t. Seriously. He didn’t. He did not. I cannot believe how many people out there believe he did.

    Somebody mentioned Karma. You saw it yesterday.

  40. for my money – – it was the Packs d-line that won this game. Wilson had no time to do anything on most dropbacks, and they crowded the line to neutralize the run game, b/c they knew their DB’s would never have to cover for long.

    Seattle’s D absolutely played well enough for the Hawks to win. Rodgers has a few more tricks up his sleeve than Wilson, and he manufactured more yards/points, I can live with that.

    The calls hurt the cause, but Hawks fans can’t say we were the better team yesterday. We’ll adjust, O-line troubles are nothing new for this team, being a glass half-full guy, I was pretty impressed by how good the Hawks D looks. They’re going to eat up lesser QB’s.

  41. One. Year. Dynasty.
    =====

    I wish the Packers had gone to 2 Super Bowls in the last 5 years.

    And sported the best defense this side of the ’83-’88 Bears.

  42. Chris Simms is making a career out of hating the Seahawks. We all know that. Screwed-up calls by the blithering NFL Refs helped Packers win. Now the Seahawks have a emotionally-charged situation to make sure they go all the way to the Super-Bowl. Packers may have won the battle with the help of Refs. But what happened was they really lost the war…

  43. I think one thing we can all agree on is this:

    The Vikings are not beating this Packers team this year. Not at home, not on the road.

    The Packers are VASTLY superior in almost every way.

  44. Seahawks were taught to play dirty by their scumbag coach. A forearm to the throat is the league sending a message to the Hawks that they’ve put up with their dirty play long enough.

  45. No way Graham comes down with a that ball in the end zone, even if nobody was muggin him. That ball was thrown high and out of the end zone. Seahawks fans just trying to justify their loss by crying incessantly.

  46. How key can Jeremy Lane be when he was kept on the bench last season except as a slot corner, and the team tried to trade him just before the 53 man roster cuts.

  47. wafflehead sez, ” the ball thrown to Graham (If it honestly was) was clearly uncatchable.”

    If not PI, it was at least defensive holding, right? The game’s outcome was decided by the refs on Sunday. You know that. The league knows that.

    This game reminds me of MJ’s last NBA title game. He clearly pushed a player aside and drained his final shot to win the championship. As someone said back then, why do officials give calls to the absolute best players in the game? They don’t need it to win. Rodgers is by far the best QB in the NFL at the moment, but they give him the benefit of the doubt. There was holding by the GB O-line on many plays. It was never called. That’s why they get hopeful during the regular season and creamed when the playoffs come. They get called in the post season.

  48. “Search “Why the Seahawks-Packers finish was not an interception” and read the first result if you do not believe me.”

    The substitute ref who made that call has had many years to review it and believes to this day, he made the right call. By the way, irrespective of your assertion that Tate pushed other players, was there simultaneous possession when both players hit the ground? No matter how you slice it, Tate made the catch and the GB defender only had simultaneous possession which means the call was correct.

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