49ers to consider ideas for enhancing stadium on hot days

AP

The 49ers started their fourth season in Levi’s Stadium on Sunday, and the #trafficproblems in Santa Clara were in midseason form.

The factors contributing to troubling images of sparse attendance have nothing to do with conditions outside the stadium, and everything to do with conditions inside them.

“It’s a bad team, ripped from its historic roots, playing in a flawed building, charging exorbitant prices,” explains Ann Killion of the San Francisco Chronicle.

Complicating matters are the conditions on hot days. As noted by Killion, the kickoff temperature for Sunday’s game against Carolina was 87, which caused many to flee the sunny side of the stadium for the shade, contributing to the photo Killion captured and tweeted during the game of hardly anyone in the stands.

Killion also explains that the 49ers have hired an architecture firm to “review a number of aspects of the stadium with the goal of enhancing the fan experience . . . to investigate feasible solutions to address concerns regarding warm weather days, both for the short and long terms.”

One possibility is a canopy, like the one installed recently in Miami. But Levi’s Stadium is tall, and issues already exist regarding the height of the building and the flight path in and out of the San Jose airport.

Whatever the 49ers do, they need to do something, or one or more somethings. Win, improve the stadium, and/or cut prices. Without that, get ready to see more pictures of people not seeing the 49ers play in person.

70 responses to “49ers to consider ideas for enhancing stadium on hot days

  1. if they were really smart, they would have considered the direction the stadium faced, and the sun during certain times of the year before they put one shovel in the ground. But I guess they aren’t really smart.

  2. Nobody has it better! Only the Clara 9ers could screw up this bad. They blew just about every single thing involved with designing/locating/planning a over 1 billion dollar palace.

  3. Preferred option: blow it up and start over.
    Second preferred option: Put a roof on it.
    Realistic solution to York: Retractable shade net and increase ticket prices to pay for it.

  4. The problem is just what Mark Cuban predicted a year ago: the NFL has alienated its core fan base. Common fans are sick and tired of watching millionaire players who are feted by the media but won’t stand for our country’s National Anthem.
    THAT’S the problem and it’s not just in San Fran, either.

  5. “It’s a bad team, ripped from its historic roots, playing in a flawed building, charging exorbitant prices,” explains Ann Killion of the San Francisco Chronicle.

    What Jed York has wrought.

  6. I was there Sunday. First time at the stadium. All the pictures you see are from halftime when everyone heads for food and shade or towards the end of the game when people start filing out. I was in the second row visitors side by the endzone and it was HOT… nearly unbearable. There was a lot of people there including a lot of Panthers fans. They didn’t suddenly get up and leave either…

    The other side gets shade for most of the game but the bad optics of the empty seats on the hot side makes it look like nobody was there. They are there, just inside the stadium trying to watch from the concourse areas that are shaded. I feel bad for the older folk that have to sit in the sun the whole day. I agree with whomever posted earlier that the design is definitely catered toward the rich and suite sales.

  7. fcoprado says:
    September 12, 2017 at 6:20 pm

    Worry about winning first,rather than a stadium
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    Most owners don’t care about winning, they care about making money. Of course, the SC49ers are paying 3 coaches to work somewhere else, so they probably aren’t even doing that.

  8. I CAN’T WAIT UNTIL SUNDAY OCTOBER 22 WHEN COWBOYS NATION INVADES THIS CRUMMY STADIUM. IT WILL BE A SEA OF BLUE AND SILVER. THERE ARE MORE COWBOYS FANS IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA THAN NINER FANS.

  9. Have people in the sunny seats wear swimsuits and break out some hoses. I believe from shows i’ve watched that the roman coliseum was better designed than that place.

  10. Who is the architect firm that designed this $1.3 Billion dollar disaster? The place is an oven, no air circulation, doesn’t generate fan noise. Three things you would find as basic needs for a Football stadium found in any Architecture 101 class..

  11. sfniners42 says:

    September 12, 2017 at 6:41 pm

    I was there Sunday. First time at the stadium. All the pictures you see are from halftime when everyone heads for food and shade or towards the end of the game when people start filing out. I was in the second row visitors side by the endzone and it was HOT… nearly unbearable. There was a lot of people there including a lot of Panthers fans. They didn’t suddenly get up and leave either…

    The other side gets shade for most of the game but the bad optics of the empty seats on the hot side makes it look like nobody was there. They are there, just inside the stadium trying to watch from the concourse areas that are shaded. I feel bad for the older folk that have to sit in the sun the whole day. I agree with whomever posted earlier that the design is definitely catered toward the rich and suite sales.

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    Come on man. ow come every other stadium doesn’t look empty at half time? The 49ers were having difficulty filling the stadium last year as well. Bad team, high prices gets you empty seats.

  12. .
    ” “It’s a bad team, ripped from its historic roots, playing in a flawed building, charging exorbitant prices,” explains Ann Killion of the San Francisco Chronicle. ”

    Don’t sugar coat it, Ms Killian.
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  13. Didn’t the Dolphins have a similar situation with Joe Robbie stadium? (I refuse to call it whatever is that they call it these days). However, they were able to modify the stadium with what looks like awnings.

  14. I’ve only been to one game at the new stadium but it has such an uncomfortable feel to it. Candlestick at least had character the new place felt like watching a game in a half empty strip mall. It used to take at least 1 1/2 hours to go from seat to freeway at Candlestick and it was still better than Levi Stadium.

  15. helicopterpilot13 says:
    September 12, 2017 at 6:29 pm

    The problem is just what Mark Cuban predicted a year ago: the NFL has alienated its core fan base. Common fans are sick and tired of watching millionaire players who are feted by the media but won’t stand for our country’s National Anthem.
    THAT’S the problem and it’s not just in San Fran, either.
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    Fans are likely more sick and tired of paying thousands of dollars for PSL’s, tickets, parking, hot dogs, nachos, and beer, only to sit and watch crap football for 3-4 hours.

    When a team fires a highly successful coach for the bozos they have had since then, who would go see them?

  16. So much for “faithful” fans.
    These guys will tell you how candlestick was always sold out and yada yada but the fact is that unsold seats were bought by corporations to give away.
    Bunch of soft , fair weather fans along with norteño cholo’s that fight true fans in the restrooms. Who would want to go see or be a part of that in person? This team should be playing in a soccer stadium just like the chargers.

  17. Stop whining San Fran. 87? Seriously? Try watching a game in Tampa in early September. When the teams are entertaining, no one cares about the “heat.”

  18. Typical Jed move building this colossal failure of a stadium. It surely is the ugliest stadium in the league and looks like a Home Depot on steroids and should be the anchor store on a suburban mall somewhere.

  19. The Romans figured this out over 2000 years ago. Put awnings over the seating areas. The direction of stadiums ought to be designed in an east-west direction, not north-south so the least amount of seats are fully exposed to the sun

  20. I’ve got this gut feeling, that the stadium was designed for another location, the York’s got the money from Santa Clara and decided not to pay the architects to redesign. “Just modify what you did before. Sun studies? I’m not paying for sun studies.”

  21. I agree with most of what Killian is saying in her article, but that said, you have to take everything she claims with a grain of salt. She has been ragging on the 49ers since I can remember, even when the team was on the up-swing with Harbaugh. She can deny it all she wants, but she’s a total hater. She’s having her moment, so kudos to her, but just goes to show that when you throw enough mud against the wall, some is bound to stick. Good for you Annie!

  22. Just how selfish, stupid and ignorant is 49er ownership? All this – and field conditions- should have been factored into their decision-making a long, long, time ago.
    It’s pretty obvious that they do not care for the fans or for the players.

  23. 87 is too hot?! No humidity at all! The fans are as soft as the team. Play in the south where it’s 95 and 80% humidity. They don’t have a problem with the weather.

  24. The taxpayers must be really happy they put in 850 million as opposed to the 9ers tossing in 200 million to build this stadium.

    How much more public money is the team going to want to fix this mess? Its a fine example of why the league should be paying to build its own billion dollar palaces

  25. I CAN’T WAIT UNTIL SUNDAY OCTOBER 22 WHEN COWBOYS NATION INVADES THIS CRUMMY STADIUM. IT WILL BE A SEA OF BLUE AND SILVER. THERE ARE MORE COWBOYS FANS IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA THAN NINER FANS.

    Worry about your own stadium, buddy. Was down there a few years ago for a Steeler game and we took over the place.

  26. What the niners did was spend a zillion dollars on what is essentially a new dump.
    That place is a bleep-hole. No way to get in and out of it without disrupting the entire area. Go to a game, expect to spend 4 hours in traffic. The seating is idiotic.
    I’m sure they already miss candlestick.

  27. Realistic option, put some ceramic window tint on it to cut down on the energy coming in from the sun. 3M Crystaline for example blocks has a prduct that 45% of the solar energy while allowing 90% of the visible light through. I used it on the windshield of my car and it works wonders on a hot day, while not drawing the attention of the police.

  28. Oh the irony! “Home of the Faithful” plastered all over a half-empty stadium on opening day. Unbelievable. I grew up in the bay area and 9er fans have always been the whiniest and most fair weather fans of all. They are the exact opposite of faithful. Went to a college game at Levis a few years back and that stadium just nothing special at all, Oakland coliseum is actually a far better fan experience.

  29. Levi’s is one of the ugly new stadium designs the modern age. The conceptual design of Las Vegas Raiders looks much better and they very much put in the consideration of Nevada’s dessert heat. If Jed York to install the shade, he should design it as the sound reflector as well. Consider how Seattle took advantage of their rain shade and turned it into a loudest stadium in the NFL.

  30. Hey Stucats,

    You are an idiot. Let me guess front running Cowboy fans and supporter of the Trump moron like most idiots
    from Texas. Where are all the Dallas Maverick fans and Rangers fans from Texas. We dont see any of those fans. Cowboy fans are the worst front runners in history. Most are even from that dump of a state!

  31. I distinctly recall SI writer Peter King taking a tour of the 49er’s new stadium and going bonkers over how great is was. It’s not the stadium, it’s the game and the players who thumb their noses at our great country.
    A lot of folks are sick and tired of these actions, hence Trump being voted into office in the upset of all upsets. Trust me, folks have had enough.

  32. For all of you saying: 87 and no humility, whaa… and 49er fans = not faithful / bandwagon… I understand why you’d think that at first, but you don’t understand what’s really going on at Levi’s.

    Ann K. is a hack of a reporter, a real hater if there ever was one! However, she’s right about the stadium. I’m a season ticket holder, I go to all the games. Here’s what’s happening there:
    It wasn’t 87, it was 91 at kickoff.
    A huge concrete bowl, surrounded by concrete pillars and concrete structures…boosting the temperature.
    No air circulation … boosting the temperature.
    A sea of plastic reflective chairs that are at least 5-7 degrees hotter (that you also have to sit on).. boosting the temperature.
    The sun directly reflecting off of the suite towers (5 stories of glass, tilted towards the field give a better view to the corporate lookie-loos) … boosting the temperature.
    Remember the “No air circulation”, multiple that for 4 hours of the above situation and you get an avarage, an AVARAGE of 53+ heat related emergencies PER GAME! The “game day experience” is beyond no fun, it’s dammed brutal!
    And dammed expensive on top of too: adding insult to sunburn!
    Still don’t believe me? Watch a reply of Sunday’s game, the Panthers flew in 4 guys and 2 sunshades to give them a bit of shade over parts of the visitors bench. Yeah, it’s hot there.
    Bad Desgin…Really bad owners…bad luck to be saddled with SBL’s.

  33. >>“It’s a bad team, ripped from its historic roots, playing in a flawed building, charging exorbitant prices,” explains Ann Killion of the San Francisco Chronicle.

    Supply and demand. The 49ers were able to find enough people willing to pay for expensive PSLs. Once the PSLs are sold the team no longer has as much incentive to put forth a good team (the seats are sold to PSL holders) nor improve the stadium.

    No sympathy from me for PSL buyers, you knew what you were getting into.

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