Tom Brady is last in the NFL in completion percentage through Week One

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Patriots quarterback Tom Brady isn’t accustomed to being at the bottom of any major statistical category, but that’s just where he finds himself after Week One.

33 quarterbacks threw at least one pass in the NFL in Week one, and all of them had a higher completion percentage than Brady, who went 16-for-36, or 44.4 percent, in the opening-night loss against the Chiefs.

That was one of the most inaccurate games in Brady’s career. The last time Brady completed less than 45 percent of his passes was January 1, 2006, a meaningless Week 17 game when he went 3-for-8 before leaving the game before halftime. The last time he completed less than 45 percent of his passes in a game that actually mattered was October 10, 2004.

Brady actually wasn’t terrible on Thursday night: He threw for 267 yards and led five long scoring drives, and the Patriots put up 27 points while not having any turnovers. The problem was the Patriots’ defense, which allowed Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith to have the best game of his career as Kansas City put 42 points on the board.

Still, it’s unusual to look at any statistical category and see Brady at the bottom.

139 responses to “Tom Brady is last in the NFL in completion percentage through Week One

  1. Ah well. The Brady/Belichick Patriots have lost three previous season-opening games and gone on to win the Super Bowl that same year, so I still like their chances.

  2. So what? Like he needs additional motivation to get better this week? Every year, the experts and pundits place too much emphasis and base January predictions on the first two games of the season, seemingly for every team. It’s a trap. Often times, the team that ends the season bares little resemblance to the team that started slowly or got rolled in the first two weeks.

  3. People tend to make too much of a single game. Sometimes you kick butt…some times it is served to you. One game is nothing more than one game. Three games, (good or bad) is more indicative of a team’s direction. There is still a whole lot of football left.

  4. And the Bills are in first place in the east, so what.

    Celebrate while you can because both examples are about to end very soon.

  5. Dear Media, please keep counting Brady out.

    Sincerely,
    Patriots fans.
    _____________

    Yeah, because this article was all about how Brady is done and the media just hates Tom Brady…. Give me a break.

  6. They’ll coast through the AFC East & have a serviceable defense in place by the playoffs ..nobody looked particularly scary in week 1 (except the Chiefs)

  7. This is about as significant as a certain QB who is no longer in the NFL. It has no significance at all, just like him.

  8. trainwrecksryan says:
    September 12, 2017 at 6:46 am
    Ah well. The Brady/Belichick Patriots have lost three previous season-opening games and gone on to win the Super Bowl that same year, so I still like their chances.

    Did their defense give up over 560 yds of offense in those games too? ….asking for a friend.

  9. Kansas City deserved a ton of a credit. They had a beautiful game plan. One play that stands out to me, was the long pass to Cooks in the middle of the field. The DB made a terrific move to swat the ball away at the last second, or Cooks is walking into the end zone for 6 and the pats retake the lead. We will have a dog fight on our hands this weekend. The Saints are also coming off a bad loss.

  10. I think today is a great day for the league to release their collected PSI measurements yes? What are they hiding? What are they afraid of?

    🙂

  11. hishighness says:
    September 12, 2017 at 6:42 am
    Dear Media, please keep counting Brady out.

    Sincerely,
    Patriots fans.

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    Pats fans are worse than emotionally fragile significant other. The slightest thing sets them off and you spend the next few hours having them complain about how the world is against them.

    The article didn’t say the Pats were DONE. It was an accurate article that noted this as an anomaly in Brady’s long career but go ahead and continue to push your agenda.

  12. OK stick a fork in him….SMH
    I think this is like the 10th year in a row there have been reports of Brady’s demise….meanwhile he has won 2 of the last three Superbowls and they were a two point conversion away from maybe making it to the last three Superbowls…

  13. It was a factor of trying to take what KC was giving him. KC rushed 3 and didn’t even care if they got to Brady. Nobody could get open even for a step. Brady was forcing in deep balls and throwing the. All away all game. Regardless of the percentage it was working through 3 quarters, but when Amendola went out he lost the only guy that was getting open underneath at all and he couldn’t do anything.

    He wasn’t really too inaccurate outside a couple bad throws. His team was bottled up.

    Will be interesting to see what happens in this next game.

  14. When the Pats are mediocre and not in the playoffs come January, then I’ll worry about Brady. He is more than capable leading that team. I’m not a Pats fan and I know that to be true. Every great QB has had bad games, big deal.

  15. hishighness says:
    September 12, 2017 at 6:42 am

    Dear Media, please keep counting Brady out.

    Sincerely,
    Patriots fans.
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    Dear Patriots fans,

    Please stop acting like the Patriots are underdogs and no one believes in them.

    Sincerely,
    Other NFL fans

  16. I know the homers didn’t see the game the rest of us did. Their 27 points doesn’t show what happened on that field, how off Brady was, and how much they miss key personnel. I did. You can keep up with the “remember 2014” slogans (even BB isn’t, he saw the game) and “don’t count Brady out” but he is 40. And like a RB over 30 there is a major drop off in performance that I believe we saw. Plus they’re finally having to deal with what they’ve benefitted from all these years – injuries to key players so Brady’s 5 yard dink and dunk isn’t working as well – sure didn’t work on Thursday.

    All that said the homers will probably say “I told you so” when they win the AFC East. The AFC East is so bad I think the Texans could win it playing like they did on Sunday. And has been for more than a decade. Win out in a tough division and still get home field, etc. And do it without the stain of cheating. Then I’ll stop counting them out.

  17. hishighness says:
    September 12, 2017 at 6:42 am
    Dear Media, please keep counting Brady out.

    Sincerely,
    Patriots fans.

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    Exactly.

    I feel bad for the porous Saints D on Sunday. This stat will be posted on Brady’s locker at the Super Dome.

  18. I hate the Patriots, but this shouldn’t even be a story after week one. If it was week 4-5 I’d worry if I was a Pats fan, but for now this is just clickbait.

  19. “Well now Brady is mad so the media should keep counting him out.” Why does Brady constantly need this external motivation to perform? I thought he was the GOAT?

  20. hishighness says:
    September 12, 2017 at 6:42 am
    Dear Media, please keep counting Brady out.

    Sincerely,
    Patriots fans.
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    Dear Patriots fans, please keep depending on a 40 year old quarterback.

    Sincerely,
    Everyone else.

  21. Dear Patriots fans,

    Please stop acting like the Patriots are underdogs and no one believes in them.

    Sincerely,
    Other NFL fans
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    I’m a Pats fan and I totally agree with you. I think some of my fellow fans from the North East have to have one foot safely on the ledge while the other foot dangles dangerously over the abyss to actually enjoy themselves. Whatever works I guess. Not judging. Just observing.

  22. joetoronto says:
    September 12, 2017 at 8:54 am
    “Well now Brady is mad so the media should keep counting him out.” Why does Brady constantly need this external motivation to perform? I thought he was the GOAT?

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    Why did Bobby Orr puke before every game? Greatness.

  23. fujoeboo says:
    September 12, 2017 at 8:43 am
    I hate the Patriots, but this shouldn’t even be a story after week one. If it was week 4-5 I’d worry if I was a Pats fan, but for now this is just clickbait.

    5 0 Rate This

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    We hate your team (whoever that is because your jealousy is insufferable).

  24. Honestly this is a good thing, gives some of my fellow Pats fans a bit of humble pie and an appreciation for what we have experienced. Pats fans aged 30 and younger have only seen since 95 (7-8 years old) 2 below .500 seasons. 2 bad seasons! With 3 Hall of fame coaches at the helm! They don’t know what a 1-15 season is like other than Browns memes.
    I do think if Brady wins #6 he hangs it up otherwise he is just chasing after the 2 major records he doesn’t have ( yards and touchdowns).

  25. New England>Your Team says:
    September 12, 2017 at 8:27 am
    Oh we’re going to bust out this broken record, are we?

    Let’s see where they end up in week 17.

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    Apparently so….It’s like Groundhog day around here and has been for a while now.

    They just don’t get it, but have seen it for 15 years now. They just don’t get it.

  26. sidelinecameraman says:
    September 12, 2017 at 9:27 am
    Honestly this is a good thing, gives some of my fellow Pats fans a bit of humble pie and an appreciation for what we have experienced. Pats fans aged 30 and younger have only seen since 95 (7-8 years old) 2 below .500 seasons. 2 bad seasons! With 3 Hall of fame coaches at the helm! They don’t know what a 1-15 season is like other than Browns memes.
    I do think if Brady wins #6 he hangs it up otherwise he is just chasing after the 2 major records he doesn’t have ( yards and touchdowns).

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    I agree. I think this is his last year, especially if they can win it all. Brissett wasn’t completely dealt in haste.

    They are clearly sold on JimmyG for the future, where they will likely make the haters even more insane than they are now.

  27. I see a lot of comments downplaying Brady’s performance but it was bad. He looked like he’s aged overnight. With no passrush out of KC, he still struggled. He looked like he lost that certain quickness in the pocket, and velocity. We saw this with Manning.. crossing routes all day.

  28. reddzen says:
    September 12, 2017 at 8:27 am
    I know the homers didn’t see the game the rest of us did. Their 27 points doesn’t show what happened on that field, how off Brady was, and how much they miss key personnel. I did. You can keep up with the “remember 2014” slogans (even BB isn’t, he saw the game) and “don’t count Brady out” but he is 40. And like a RB over 30 there is a major drop off in performance that I believe we saw. Plus they’re finally having to deal with what they’ve benefitted from all these years – injuries to key players so Brady’s 5 yard dink and dunk isn’t working as well – sure didn’t work on Thursday.

    All that said the homers will probably say “I told you so” when they win the AFC East. The AFC East is so bad I think the Texans could win it playing like they did on Sunday. And has been for more than a decade. Win out in a tough division and still get home field, etc. And do it without the stain of cheating. Then I’ll stop counting them out.

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    You are delusional. Literally everything you just typed. No diehard Pats fan is more critical of Brady than myself.

    I saw this guy take a team of B Squad players to the title game in 2013. I’ve seen him do a lot of great things, and this likely being his last year, you think he rolls over?

    LOL

    It’s people like you that run around these boards claiming they “cheat” to satisfy your very delicate sensibilities as an NFL fan, as your team plays victim to the Pats.

    Delusional.

    Brady being rusty in Week 1 has nothing to do with Edelman not being there and missing his “dinking and dunking”.

    When Joe Montana dinked and dunked, no one cared what it was called.

    An overthrow to DeWayne Allen is an overthrow. Has nothing to do with Edelman not being on the field.

    You are in for a very rude awakening.

  29. dkeucd says:
    September 12, 2017 at 9:31 am
    Father Time is the G.O.A.T. Always has been. Always will be.

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    How is putting up 27 points with 2 4th and 1 stone-jobs, a sign of “Father Time”?

    You people are seriously idiots.

  30. Hater logic:
    T Brady 267yds 16/36 v playoff contender Chiefs = cliffed, worst in league, end of a dynasty.
    Big Ben 263yds 24/36 v basement Browns = this is our year, Ben could bow out with a ring.
    Siemian 219yds 17/28 v .500 Chargers = the dawn of a new era, playoffs around the corner.
    J Flacco 121yds 7/19 v joker Cinci = Joe cool is back baby – Superbowl here we come!

  31. reddzen says:
    September 12, 2017 at 8:27 am
    I know the homers didn’t see the game the rest of us did. Their 27 points doesn’t show what happened on that field, how off Brady was, and how much they miss key personnel.

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    The Pats sliced up the Chiefs D like a hot knife through butter, until the 4th qtr where both the D and O got worse, leading to KC’s 21 points.

    Did you see the game or do you just like to lecture others who know a lot more about football than you do?

  32. streetyson says:
    September 12, 2017 at 9:43 am
    Hater logic:
    T Brady 267yds 16/36 v playoff contender Chiefs = cliffed, worst in league, end of a dynasty.
    Big Ben 263yds 24/36 v basement Browns = this is our year, Ben could bow out with a ring.
    Siemian 219yds 17/28 v .500 Chargers = the dawn of a new era, playoffs around the corner.
    J Flacco 121yds 7/19 v joker Cinci = Joe cool is back baby – Superbowl here we come!

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    LOL

    Priceless, isn’t it?

    Their delusions only make this all the more comical.

    The disingenuous, delusional fans from other teams, continue to drive themselves insane, while holding the Pats to a completely different standard, just how Goodell cheats by applying rules only to the Pats, moving the goal posts, to see the result they must have.

    lol

  33. An overthrow to DeWayne Allen is an overthrow. Has nothing to do with Edelman not being on the field.
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    ‘tylawspick6’ I usually don’t take issue with your posts but I had to point out that Brady the didn’t overthrow Dwayne Allen on that first down field miss. Allen slowed up his route to locate the ball in the air. That miss was on him.

  34. Remember, folks claim Brady is finished every time he only makes it to the AFC championship game. That his floor is the ceiling for their team is forever lost on them. #Penthouseliving

  35. reddzen says:
    September 12, 2017 at 8:27 am
    I know the homers didn’t see the game the rest of us did. Their 27 points doesn’t show what happened on that field, how off Brady was, and how much they miss key personnel.

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    You are a homer too. Just of a different team.

    What’s wrong with being a biased fan? We aren’t media.

    Sure the Patriots were missing key personnel from last year, but that was last year. The point is the offense was bottled up and missed 4 key short yardage plays, dropped a TD and didn’t score off a turnover and still scored 27. That’s a truly positive takeaway. Those weren’t special teams or defensive points either.

    Also, struggling but staying in the game for 3 quarters and having the lead was good. The 4th quarter was an unmitigated disaster on both sides of the ball.

    Summary is the offense will be not only ok, but probably great and the defense looked bad, particularly at LB. I suspect the big plays will get fixed but I am worried about stopping the run.

  36. LSUStrong says:
    September 12, 2017 at 10:00 am
    An overthrow to DeWayne Allen is an overthrow. Has nothing to do with Edelman not being on the field.
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    ‘tylawspick6’ I usually don’t take issue with your posts but I had to point out that Brady the didn’t overthrow Dwayne Allen on that first down field miss. Allen slowed up his route to locate the ball in the air. That miss was on him.

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    Slowed up on his route? Did Welker do that too in SB 46?

    It was a poor throw with the incorrect trajectory on the ball based on the coverage.

    Learn the game.

    He needed to step into that throw, on a line and hit Allen in stride. He did not.

    FAIL

    Brady is human, but he also gets a pass a lot from homer fanboys. My uncles have had sesason tickers since 1978, pay $245 for seats on the 45, 10 yards up, and they too, had to call out homer fans in their section, as many tried to blame Allen.

    That’s what happens with SOME Pats fans with homer goggles on….They need to be corrected.

    Brady is not infallible.

    But, for the trolls here desperately claiming he is done, apparently they like to torture themselves every season.

  37. briscocountyjr says:
    September 12, 2017 at 9:33 am
    I see a lot of comments downplaying Brady’s performance but it was bad. He looked like he’s aged overnight. With no passrush out of KC, he still struggled. He looked like he lost that certain quickness in the pocket, and velocity. We saw this with Manning.. crossing routes all day.

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    Please articulate and show examples as to how Brady “aged overnight”:

    We’ll wait…

  38. kindbass says:
    September 12, 2017 at 10:01 am
    People have been saying Brady is done literally every year since 2005.

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    Totally agree. You could even say during or after every game since his first start. John Madden was doubting him with 1:21 left in the Super Bowl against the Rams. People wanted Bledsoe to start that game after the AFCCG. The next year people thought he was a one hit wonder then he lost 31-0 to the Bills in 2003. People have wanted him to fail since he started. 17 years later the same haters are still hoping.

  39. bullcharger says:
    September 12, 2017 at 10:14 am
    kindbass says:
    September 12, 2017 at 10:01 am
    People have been saying Brady is done literally every year since 2005.

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    Totally agree. You could even say during or after every game since his first start. John Madden was doubting him with 1:21 left in the Super Bowl against the Rams. People wanted Bledsoe to start that game after the AFCCG. The next year people thought he was a one hit wonder then he lost 31-0 to the Bills in 2003. People have wanted him to fail since he started. 17 years later the same haters are still hoping.

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    People don’t seem to understand part of what makes Brady so great. Desire.

    They just keep giving him the ammo to shred their team and lay waste to the league.

  40. u4iadman says:
    September 12, 2017 at 10:03 am
    System qb at best.

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    It’s amazing that in the 51 year history of the Super Bowl nobody else thought to get a basic system QB and start him for 17 years, win the division 14 out of 16 years, go to 11 AFC Championship games and 7 Super Bowls and win 5 Super Bowls. It’s so easy. How didn’t they see it?

  41. Brady is still amongst the top 2 or 3 QB’s in the game and at age 40, that is worthy of praise.

    But the Patriots aren’t going to the Superbowl much less be the repeat champions. The only reason they will make the playoffs is because the Bills, Jets, and Dolphins are all cup cakes.

  42. Exactly 14 years prior, to the day, on Sept 7th 2003, the Patriots lost to the Bills 31-0.
    Brady was 14 of 28 for 123 yards, 0 TDs, and 4 interceptions.

    Since then, Brady has played in 10 AFCCGs, winning 6 and has won 4 Super Bowls.

    On the other hand, since then the Bills don’t even have a playoff appearance.

    Yeah…..i think I’ll wait and see how this goes.

  43. bullcharger says:
    September 12, 2017 at 10:04 am
    reddzen says:
    September 12, 2017 at 8:27 am
    I know the homers didn’t see the game the rest of us did. Their 27 points doesn’t show what happened on that field, how off Brady was, and how much they miss key personnel.

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    You are a homer too. Just of a different team.

    What’s wrong with being a biased fan? We aren’t media.

    Sure the Patriots were missing key personnel from last year, but that was last year. The point is the offense was bottled up and missed 4 key short yardage plays, dropped a TD and didn’t score off a turnover and still scored 27. That’s a truly positive takeaway. Those weren’t special teams or defensive points either.

    Also, struggling but staying in the game for 3 quarters and having the lead was good. The 4th quarter was an unmitigated disaster on both sides of the ball.

    Summary is the offense will be not only ok, but probably great and the defense looked bad, particularly at LB. I suspect the big plays will get fixed but I am worried about stopping the run.

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    Why would the D, that is not old, but in its prime all of a sudden be such a problem as compared to last year’s #1 rated D? It’s essentially the same personnel, but with some key people missing (McClellin, Valentine).

    Add in BB’s Ds are not peaking in Sept, some breakdowns, and it looks worse than the truth.

    I am sorry, but Chris Long, Sheard and Logan Ryan are not better players than what they’ve been replaced with there. Marsh can be a Chris Long here, Lawrence Guy can be a Sheard more so used as a 3-4 DE than what Sheard could provide, and Gilmore is a better man cover corner than Logan Ryan. Ryan is a great tackler and good, steady player, but he doesn’t have Gilmore’s skill level.

    I loved Nink, but Flowers looks to be the real deal. Butler and Wise flashed a bit in the opener, so I am not buying into this baloney.

    They played an odd dime package way too long, shocklingly using Jordan Richards as the Rover. That role, more of a nickel package, with McClellin, would have been the choice there. He was sorely missed for a scheme to combat what the Chiefs had to offer, mainly in regards to Kelce and Hunt.

    Remove the bad breakdowns on those long TDs, and we’re not even having this discussion.

    No way Marsh should have bee in man coverage on Marsh.

    These are BB/Patricia issues you have. It happens. Bad game from the coaches.

  44. bullcharger says:
    September 12, 2017 at 10:25 am
    u4iadman says:
    September 12, 2017 at 10:03 am
    System qb at best.

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    It’s amazing that in the 51 year history of the Super Bowl nobody else thought to get a basic system QB and start him for 17 years, win the division 14 out of 16 years, go to 11 AFC Championship games and 7 Super Bowls and win 5 Super Bowls. It’s so easy. How didn’t they see it?

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    LOL

    What’s even funnier is, Montana is more of a system QB than Brady, since Steve Young followed Montana and made it to the HOF.

    But, no one ever tries to insult Montana by saying he is a “system QB”.

    They’re such disingenuous losers.

  45. whatjusthapped says:
    September 12, 2017 at 10:30 am
    Brady is still amongst the top 2 or 3 QB’s in the game and at age 40, that is worthy of praise.
    But the Patriots aren’t going to the Superbowl much less be the repeat champions. The only reason they will make the playoffs is because the Bills, Jets, and Dolphins are all cup cakes.

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    I guess you know that because the league is so great this year so far? LOL!

  46. igotgamenj says:
    September 12, 2017 at 9:38 am
    Father Time waits for NO man including Tom Brady

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    Yeah, that defense was not on the same page and gave up 42 points. Thats clearly Brady’s age showing.

  47. “….and every single team in the NFL would rather have him starting at QB than whoever they currently have…”

    Actually, no! Give me Aaron Rodgers any day. Now, if you said, “Every single team would rather have Bellicheck as their head coach than whoever they currently have”, I couldn’t agree more. Brady is great, but he wouldn’t have any more SBs than Rodgers if he’d been a Packer, but Rodgers under BB? 5 SBs easy. BB is the GOAT, hands down. He made Cassel a lot of money too.

  48. “What’s even funnier is, Montana is more of a system QB than Brady, since Steve Young followed Montana and made it to the HOF.

    But, no one ever tries to insult Montana by saying he is a “system QB”.

    They’re such disingenuous losers.”

    Except Montana took Martyball (Chiefs) to the AFC championship and to the brink of an SB. We’ll probably never know how Brady would do under another HC that’s not the GOAT, but we CAN say Montana was great under a non-HOF coach. He allso never lost a SB either.

  49. bighoser says:
    September 12, 2017 at 10:55 am
    “….and every single team in the NFL would rather have him starting at QB than whoever they currently have…”

    Actually, no! Give me Aaron Rodgers any day. Now, if you said, “Every single team would rather have Bellicheck as their head coach than whoever they currently have”, I couldn’t agree more. Brady is great, but he wouldn’t have any more SBs than Rodgers if he’d been a Packer, but Rodgers under BB? 5 SBs easy. BB is the GOAT, hands down. He made Cassel a lot of money too.

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    Of course BB is the GOAT. He’s also the best GM who ever lived.

    Any architect of teams with that kind of resume, the guy who drafted Brady himself and sent Dick Rhebein out to scout Brady (and Tim Rattay), who kept 4QBs on the roster in 2000 (no GM or Coach has ever done that before or since in the cap era), has to be the greatest ever.

    Brady would never have 5 rings, if not playing for BB. BB wouldn’t have 5 either, but probably 3 with a different QB he would have groomed. Part of me is looking forward to the JimmyG Era for this very reason.

    This ain’t slowing down anytime soon; not with this recipe that BB has created in NE, all while being cheated by the commissioner and some owners to try to slow or stop it.

  50. bighoser says:
    September 12, 2017 at 11:01 am
    “What’s even funnier is, Montana is more of a system QB than Brady, since Steve Young followed Montana and made it to the HOF.

    But, no one ever tries to insult Montana by saying he is a “system QB”.

    They’re such disingenuous losers.”

    Except Montana took Martyball (Chiefs) to the AFC championship and to the brink of an SB. We’ll probably never know how Brady would do under another HC that’s not the GOAT, but we CAN say Montana was great under a non-HOF coach. He allso never lost a SB either.

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    No offense, but Montana didn’t KC anywhere. That team was absolutely loaded and if anything, Montana was holding them back, which is why he retired.

    Those teams were so stacked, guys like Rich Gannon, Steve Bono and Elvis Grbac all looked like Pro Bowlers when leading that offense in the 1990s. Montana was a shell of his former self. Everyone knows that who saw it.

    For example, Montana had the ’94 Chiefs at 9 wins. Steve Bono had them at 13 wins the next year.

    Have a nice day.

  51. “He allso never lost a SB either.”

    He also only played in what, only 4 Super Bowls? To play in 7 and expect to win every one of them is ridiculous. The other teams get there because they are great teams and usually come to play just as much as the Pats do.

    Laughing at myself to with statement “only 4 Super Bowls” since there are several teams that haven’t been to a single one yet. Four is a monumental achievement in its own right.

  52. Relax folks, Belichick will make adjustments for week 2. That’s what makes this the GOAT system. We are going 18-1 till we aren’t. This team is simply too loaded.

  53. IMHO when the decline starts we will first see it with Brady announcing it and taking himself off the table. Between his desire to accept being nothing but the best plus Gisele riding him to hang it up I dont see him dragging things out.

  54. He also only played in what, only 4 Super Bowls? To play in 7 and expect to win every one of them is ridiculous. The other teams get there because they are great teams and usually come to play just as much as the Pats do.
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    No shame in failing to reach the Super Bowl when your competition was Gibbs (4 SBs) Parcells (2 w/Giants) and the ’83-’88 Bears defense, which may be the best of all-time.

  55. No offense, but Montana didn’t KC anywhere. That team was absolutely loaded and if anything, Montana was holding them back, which is why he retired.
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    1993 is the only Championship Game the Chiefs have been in since 1969.

    Montana.. coincidence? I don’t think so.

  56. For example, Montana had the ’94 Chiefs at 9 wins. Steve Bono had them at 13 wins the next year.
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    1994 Chiefs – 14th in points, 5th in yards
    1995 Chiefs – 12th in points, 14th in yards

    Here’s a fun fact;

    In 1994, Montana put up another 300 yard game and a 102 QB rating in a Wild Card loss on the road.

    Bono… LMAO.. with the best team in football in ’95, and with one of the best homefield advantages… 32.8 rating in an upset loss to the Colts. 7 points.

    I suggest you stick to what you know. Patriots football.

  57. Brady is great, but he wouldn’t have any more SBs than Rodgers if he’d been a Packer, but Rodgers under BB?
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    He wouldn’t have won a Super Bowl with any of Rodgers teams.

    Rodgers has been sacked 336 times since 2008. He took the most sacks in 2 seasons and was 2nd just 2 years ago.

    Brady’s career would be over by now if he had to take that kind of punishment.

    And the defense is not even average. Brady has had a top 10 defense every year he’s won a Title. He had the #1 defense 2 of those seasons.

    .. I DO think Brady could have won with Favre’s teams in 2001-2004. Great line, good skill playes, exceptional running game. Solid defense a couple of those years.

  58. Much ado about nothing and a classic over reaction by the Patriot internet defense team led by someone allowed to post 20/100 posts….sounds fair …right. It’s one game relax…..and maybe give it a rest. Be happy it’s not raining.

  59. tylawspick6 says:
    September 12, 2017 at 11:10 am

    No offense, but Montana didn’t KC anywhere. That team was absolutely loaded and if anything, Montana was holding them back, which is why he retired.
    ———————–

    BS. Montana took that team to the next level. If he hadn’t have been hurt, the Chiefs would likely have been in, and won the Super Bowl. He retired because Father Time actually did catch up with him.

    Bono and Grbac didn’t take them anywhere. Gannon was taking them somewhere, until Schottenheimer had the brilliant idea to pull him and put in Grbac, who had been out injured most of the season.

  60. We can’t go 19-0 but we will go 6-0 in the AFC east and nothing will stop us. Nothing will stop us from winning the SB this year either and I mean nothing unless a few more key injuries arise.

  61. bighoser says:
    September 12, 2017 at 11:01 am

    He allso never lost a SB either.
    ——————-

    He only made it to 4.

  62. “No shame in failing to reach the Super Bowl when your competition was Gibbs (4 SBs) Parcells (2 w/Giants) and the ’83-’88 Bears defense, which may be the best of all-time.”

    Yeah, I watched that Bears D dismantle the Pats in the 85 Super Bowl. Pats were lucky to get the 10 points they did manage to get on the scoreboard.

  63. aarons444 says:
    September 12, 2017 at 12:35 pm
    Brady is great, but he wouldn’t have any more SBs than Rodgers if he’d been a Packer, but Rodgers under BB?
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    He wouldn’t have won a Super Bowl with any of Rodgers teams.
    Rodgers has been sacked 336 times since 2008. He took the most sacks in 2 seasons and was 2nd just 2 years ago.
    Brady’s career would be over by now if he had to take that kind of punishment.
    And the defense is not even average. Brady has had a top 10 defense every year he’s won a Title. He had the #1 defense 2 of those seasons.
    .. I DO think Brady could have won with Favre’s teams in 2001-2004. Great line, good skill playes, exceptional running game. Solid defense a couple of those years.

    ———

    Give me a break. Brady doesn’t get sacked because he doesn’t try to extend plays and he gets rid of the ball quickly. When Cassel came in in 2008 he was sacked more than twice as much as Brady was in 2007 with the same team.

    Brady also got to the Super Bowl in 2011 with the 31st ranked pass defense. And lets not forget that he had a 21-3 lead over Manning in the 2006 AFCCG with Reche Caldwell as his #1 WR.

  64. tylawspick6 says:
    September 12, 2017 at 9:16 am

    Why did Bobby Orr puke before every game? Greatness.
    ________________

    That was Esposito. You do enough damage when it comes to football. Please leave hockey alone.

  65. bighoser says:
    September 12, 2017 at 11:01 am

    He allso never lost a SB either.
    ——————-

    He only made it to 4.

    —-
    I think it’s amusing that when the Patriots win the argument is that wins are a team stat not a QB stat… which is accurate… but then when they lose… it’s Brady that lost.

    That logic makes me giggle.

    🙂

  66. Give me a break. Brady doesn’t get sacked because he doesn’t try to extend plays and he gets rid of the ball quickly. When Cassel came in in 2008 he was sacked more than twice as much as Brady was in 2007 with the same team.
    =====

    He’d get killed in McCarthys offense.

    Half of his plays are right out of the Martz book, long vertical routes. Which is why teams like Seattle can bottle them up.

    If Brady couldn’t extend plays, he’d fail in the offense.

  67. There is no doubt Brady is the best system QB ever. It takes team effort to win but a poorly calculated decision via a QB can cause a team too lose. Make no mistake our team lost dearly in part of underestimating their opponent.

  68. PatriotsSystemDynasty says:
    September 12, 2017 at 2:32 pm
    There is no doubt Brady is the best system QB ever.
    ________________

    Every QB that ever played did so in an offensive system of one kind or another Gump.
    I am not so sure I can agree on best ever but he is the best of the SB era.

  69. Tom Brady was not good in Week One. The past does not matter in terms of Patriots losing Week One before and going to Super Bowl. Brady is older now. Like almost every great quarterback that played a long time in the league, his play could be in sharp decline now.I am sure he he will have some more good games, but I suspect some back and forth play from Brady. As much as Brady fans think he can play five years at the same level, the odds are against him. Get in reality people…

  70. A big moment in that game was the referee’s time out on that first 4th and 1. Looked like they were going to hurry up the ol’ Brady sneak before the defense could get set. When they went conventional and failed on both 4th and 1 plays, it was huge for the Chiefs. Can’t fault Brady for either of those plays. They were game changers.

  71. Now that the Patriots are in obvious decline, there is no excuse for the Steelers in 2017. They’re definitely going to win it all.

  72. ncfloyd says:

    September 12, 2017 at 8:16 am

    Brady should go back to throwing 3 yd passes to get his percentage up.

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    Like when, last year when he was 2nd in the NFL in yard per attempt?

  73. PatriotsSystemDynasty says:
    September 12, 2017 at 2:32 pm
    There is no doubt Brady is the best system QB ever.

    =================

    Brady is not a system QB. Belichick is 18-19 as Pats coach without Brady starting. Belichick is 183-52 with Brady starting. See the difference?

  74. Brady has always been a great QB when he has great protection. If his pocket starts to break down and he gets pressure he turns into a poor QB. Nothing has changed, it’s always been that way. The Patriots and Belichick will find a way to get that perfect pocket back for Brady.

  75. bighoser says:

    September 12, 2017 at 11:01 am

    “What’s even funnier is, Montana is more of a system QB than Brady, since Steve Young followed Montana and made it to the HOF.

    But, no one ever tries to insult Montana by saying he is a “system QB”.

    They’re such disingenuous losers.”

    Except Montana took Martyball (Chiefs) to the AFC championship and to the brink of an SB. We’ll probably never know how Brady would do under another HC that’s not the GOAT, but we CAN say Montana was great under a non-HOF coach. He allso never lost a SB either.

    ===================

    Montana played with more HOFers than Brady and no salary cap so had more continuity year to year than Brady. And Montana obviously had some great coaches in his career and Schottenheimer was no slouch either. Montana was great and so is Brady, “systems” be damned.

  76. jpoh333 says:

    September 13, 2017 at 3:33 pm

    Brady has always been a great QB when he has great protection. If his pocket starts to break down and he gets pressure he turns into a poor QB. Nothing has changed, it’s always been that way. The Patriots and Belichick will find a way to get that perfect pocket back for Brady.

    =============

    Brady has had years with both great lines and subpar lines yet still his teams manages to be a contender every year. And although Brady isn’t a guy who rolled out much, his skill with a good pass rush is his ability to read the D and get rid of the ball quick and put it where it needs to go.

  77. Montana played with more HOFers than Brady and no salary cap so had more continuity year to year than Brady.
    =====

    Montana played with 1 Hall of Famer on offense. Jerry Rice.

    Brady played with 1 lock, Randy Moss. And if Gronk stays healthy, he’s in as well.

    Montana had Lott and Charles Haley on defense, but I suspect that will be a draw too with Ty Law, and Vince Wilfork or Richard Seymore most likely getting in.

    And there wasn’t anywhere near as much continuity as is believed. Walsh won 2 Super Bowls, then pressed the nuke button and built a team that won 2 more.

    .. the Giants and Redskins did the same thing. They won multiple championships with a few core players, as Montana did.

    The playing field was level then. Its NOT level now.

    The same 5 or 6 teams dominate this League beacuse they’re run so much better than every one else. Frankly, nobody is in the Patriots league. Its easier than ever to dominate.

    Montana had it MUCH tougher. Better teams. Better competition.

  78. aarons444 says:

    September 14, 2017 at 5:08 pm

    Montana played with more HOFers than Brady and no salary cap so had more continuity year to year than Brady.
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    Montana played with 1 Hall of Famer on offense. Jerry Rice.

    Brady played with 1 lock, Randy Moss. And if Gronk stays healthy, he’s in as well.

    Montana had Lott and Charles Haley on defense, but I suspect that will be a draw too with Ty Law, and Vince Wilfork or Richard Seymore most likely getting in.

    And there wasn’t anywhere near as much continuity as is believed. Walsh won 2 Super Bowls, then pressed the nuke button and built a team that won 2 more.

    .. the Giants and Redskins did the same thing. They won multiple championships with a few core players, as Montana did.

    The playing field was level then. Its NOT level now.

    The same 5 or 6 teams dominate this League beacuse they’re run so much better than every one else. Frankly, nobody is in the Patriots league. Its easier than ever to dominate.

    Montana had it MUCH tougher. Better teams. Better competition.

    ===============

    Moss, who played with Brady for only 2 full years and never won a title? And for the record, Montana played with 4 HOFers (Lott, Rice, Haley, Fred Dean, and I didn’t include Steve Young)

    Montana’s front office had an exponential advantage over Brady’s because of the lack of a salary cap. Any disputing that, and I just can’t help you.

    Brady is the only constant player during the Pats run and he has seen many, many good to great players jettisoned to save cap space (ie Seymour, Law, Samuel, Vinatieri, Vrabel, Moss, Branch, Givens, Milloy, Chandler Jones, Jaimie Collins, Revis, and on and on it goes) only to regroup with Belichick and contend yet again.

    Its much harder to break in new offensive linemen and receivers with constant turnover. Montana was great, but that era was much easier to stay on top. Indisputably so.

    And you “playing field is not level” point has no basis. All teams have the same cap rules, and the draft favors bad teams. That was not so in Montana’s cap free era where players had less leverage. The Pats are the exception to the rule in the cap era. No other team comes close to what they have done with their run of SB and conference championship appearances over the last 17yrs, which just shows you how unique this run has been.

  79. aarons444 says:
    “The same 5 or 6 teams dominate this League”

    =========

    Huh? Every single team in the NFL aside from the Pats has hit the skids over the last 17yrs,with maybe the exception of Pittsburgh but even they didn’t reach the same heights.

  80. Montana’s front office had an exponential advantage over Brady’s because of the lack of a salary cap. Any disputing that, and I just can’t help you.
    =====

    I don’t need any help.

    We’re simply not going to agree on this.

    Montana played in a better era of football, and an era where it was tougher to win.

    I don’t think the Pats winning in this era is anything special at all. They’re lapping their competiton beacuse they’re so much better than everyone else. The rules work in their favor, not to their detriment.

  81. aarons444 says:

    September 14, 2017 at 7:14 pm

    I don’t need any help.

    We’re simply not going to agree on this.

    Montana played in a better era of football, and an era where it was tougher to win.

    I don’t think the Pats winning in this era is anything special at all. They’re lapping their competiton beacuse they’re so much better than everyone else. The rules work in their favor, not to their detriment.

    =========

    But when you say “they” are so much better, the only constant has been Brady. The “they” you speak of has been a constant revolving door of new players. The salary cap, the fact that there are 4 more teams, the fact that star players have more leverage to command higher salaries, all mean it’s harder to keep a contending team on the field. I’m not sure what “rules” you a speaking of that are helping them over a team from the 80’s.

  82. But when you say “they” are so much better, the only constant has been Brady. The “they” you speak of has been a constant revolving door of new players. The salary cap, the fact that there are 4 more teams, the fact that star players have more leverage to command higher salaries, all mean it’s harder to keep a contending team on the field. I’m not sure what “rules” you a speaking of that are helping them over a team from the 80’s.
    ======

    .. well, first off, “they” includes Belichick. He’s the mastermind behind all this.

    And I say again, I vehemently disagree.

    The Patriots have won 77% of their games with Brady as their starter, 5 Titles, 7 Super Bowls. You won’t convince me its hard for them to win when the record proves the exact opposite is true.

    And they’re not the only team that has won conistently over a long period of time.

    The Packers have been to the Playoffs 19 of the last 24 seasons and have had only 2 losing seasons in 25 years.

    The Steelers have been to the Playoffs 17 of 25 seasons, only 3 losing seasons in that time frame.

    Colts.. 16 of 20 seasons in the Playoffs, only 3 losing seasons.

    As in every decade in the NFL, the cream rises to the top.

  83. How does pointing out Brady’s winning pct., which no other team in his era is even close to, prove that its somehow easier? If it was easier, then MORE TEAMS would have that success! The Brady era Pats’ winning pct. and consistent drives deep into the playoffs blow away all contenders. Brady has started for 15 full yrs and has made the AFC title game 11 times! The next highest of the era are the Steelers and Eagles (5), then the Ravens, Colts and Packers with (4). Not close.

    And yea Belichick is huuuge part, both in strategy and my aforementioned point that today’s GM job is MUCH harder today with the cap. But Belichick is only 18-19 as Pats HC without Brady starting.

    And again what “rules” are only helping the Pats?

  84. And again what “rules” are only helping the Pats?
    =====

    With a free market system, teams don’t stay together, which you said yourself.

    As an example, how much better are the Lions if they had kept Suh? Good enough to overtake the Packers? Quite possibly.

    Belichick is able to take advantage of that beacuse his system is light years ahead of everyone elses. He’s remade his team a few times. Went from a defensive philosophy to an offensive one.

    Others teams have done similar things (Steelers, Packers) but not with the same success. Good enough, but not good enough to be great.

    .. which is why I believe Montana’s era was so much tougher.

    Dallas, Chicago, New York and Washington kept the core of their teams together over long periods of time. For a decade that conference was brutally tough. The 9ers had to dethrone Dallas. Gibbs got to 4 Super Bowls. The Giants were in it most every year, they nearly ended Montana’s career twice, and kept them out of 2 Super Bowls. The Bears had perhaps the best D of all-time from ’83-’88… and 2 labor stoppages wreaked havok on the 9ers legacy!

    New England has had no such competition. They owned Mannings Colts, and they were down when the Steelers got to their 3 Super Bowls. There is no great rivalry. The Giants are the only team that has managed to put a black mark on their legacy. Montana had 3 great teams standing in his way every year.

    … I’m not saying any of this to discredit the Patriots. While their run and accomplishments are amazing, I simply believe this is not a great era of football. Their are too many Seattles and Green Bays that can’t seem to stand on that podium of greatness.

  85. Montana has the same right to be called GOAT as Brady. The 49ers during the 80s may have been better than any Patriot team but he only had 9 years with them. The first few years the 49ers were terrible and between injury from playing in a tougher era and spending his last years with the Chiefs, Montana didn’t have as many opportunities as Brady with his 17 years on the Patriots. Winning 4 Super Bowls in 9 years is easily as good as winning 5 in 17.

  86. Still waiting on which rules only help the Pats.

    Belichick is under .500 without Brady starting….why? And with Belichick’s constant trimming of good players who get expensive, why did he choose to keep only one player this whole time?

    And “remaking” teams is exceptionally hard and leading an offense with lots of turnover is exceptionally hard. It also makes preparing for opponents who are changing, harder. If it was easy, more teams would be sustaining success, thus proving it is HARD

  87. I understand the Montana as GOAT camp and they have a lot of good points. The era in the 80’s and the era now were obviously different but its crazy to say its easier to win in one era than the other. QBs got beat up more back then, but players are also much faster and stronger now. For me, Brady does it for me because he has sustained the longest stretch of QB and team success the NFL has ever seen. Not sure if he is actually “better” than other all time QBs in the discussion, but he certainly has had the most accomplished career.

  88. aarons444 says:
    September 14, 2017 at 5:08 pm

    The playing field was level then. Its NOT level now.

    The same 5 or 6 teams dominate this League beacuse they’re run so much better than every one else. Frankly, nobody is in the Patriots league. Its easier than ever to dominate.

    Montana had it MUCH tougher. Better teams. Better competition.
    ==============
    Riiiiggghhhhttt. That’s why exactly 7 teams won it all during Montana’s tenure in the NFL. Only two of which came from the AFC. Selective memory on NFC West. Just sayin’. LOL

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