Bengals can easily escape Andy Dalton’s contract after the season

AP

Andy Dalton‘s job is safe, according to a head coach whose job isn’t. If the Bengals decide not to give Marvin Lewis another new contract after his expires after Week 17 and a new coach comes in, what happens to Dalton?

Answer: Whatever the Bengals want to happen with Dalton.

His Kaepernick-style, year-to-year contract has only one year left of unallocated signing bonus money, making the cap hit associated with unloading him only $2.3 million in 2018. Keeping him would cost $13.9 million in cash, a figure that currently is creeping toward the bottom of the starting-quarterback pay scale.

Which may be fitting, since Dalton is currently creeping toward the bottom of the starting quarterback barrel. Through two games in 2017, Dalton has five turnovers, no touchdowns, fewer than 200 yards passing per game, and a passer rating of 47.2. That puts him behind every NFL quarterback other than Scott-Freakin’-Tolzien.

It eventually should put Dalton behind A.J. McCarron, and it could in time put Dalton out on the street. Unless the Bengals, who are notoriously careful with their money, decide that they’d rather pay $13.9 million for El Diablo that they know than roll out the cash or the draft-pick capital for el diablo that they don’t.

38 responses to “Bengals can easily escape Andy Dalton’s contract after the season

  1. Was there anything finer as they showed a four split screen of the fans in Bungal land . All these good players and Collinworth could only come up with blame new tackles.

  2. Andy dalton isn’t playing like a top 10 QB but if you think those losses are only on him you are an idiot. 3 of the 5 turnovers against the Ravens were just great plays on one the linebacker jumped backwards and tipped the ball and on another one he threw a back shoulder too AJ green and jimmy smith played it perfectly. Last night if you actually watched the game you would have noticed him forced to roll out of the pocket every play because that O-line couldn’t block a 3 year old. Andy has no running game and very little pass blocking and we know at this point he isn’t going to carry the team so why would you expect a different outcome? He threw a TD to Eiffert that was called back because he was too stupid to stay in bounds, that’s not on Andy. Cincy has a lot of problems and Andy isn’t close to the biggest.

  3. Just seventeen games have been played, so it seems premature to pencil anybody in for the bottom rungs, but the Bengals and the Colts are strong contenders.

  4. I know its fun to pile on Dalton, but a couple of years ago he had numbers that put him the in the MVP conversation. What changed? His OC tok a head coaching job and they replaced some top veterans on the O Line with turnstiles. Fix those problems first, and Dalton will be just fine.

  5. We come here to bury the “Red Rocket” not to praise him. Hold tight Cinncy, your long nightmare is almost over. Both Marvin and Andy will be gone by the end of the season.

  6. While watching last night’s game, I knew the vultures would begin circling this morning. But I didn’t think they’d circle around Dalton. He has proven he can put points on the board. I’d be looking in Zampese’s direction when looking to put somebody on the hot seat.

  7. I really wanted to see Marvin Lewis turn this around. I was rooting for him and pulling for him but yeah… it’s just time to move on. I’m not part of that vicious “fire the coach whenever I get ticked off crowd” that most fans/media/end-of-story commenters are, but it’s just to the point where Lewis and the Bengals need to part ways.

  8. exinsidetrader says:

    September 15, 2017 at 10:21 am

    When I saw the title I just knew that PFT would somehow squeeze in a Krapernick reference.
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    Kap was a once promising young QB that was easily cut thanks to his team-friendly year-to-year contract. The comparison is valid. Troll harder.

  9. If you’re a GM looking to sign a free agent QB next year, do you want Dalton, Cousins, Bradford or Alex Smith? Anyone else I’m forgetting who might hit the market next year?

    Not a bad crop when the typical year is more like McCown, Hoyer, Glennon, Fitzpatrick and Cutler.

  10. With the attrition on their offensive line, losing some of their ball-skill players, and suspect coaching, I don’t know whether McCarron could do much better than Dalton?
    In fairness to Dalton, the Bengals have obviously allowed the talent around him to erode, and he’s generally not been among the better pressure QB’s in the NFL to begin with. Cincy really needs to regroup and rethink it’s whole operation, from the top down.

  11. So do you pay McCarren a crap ton of money to stay and let Dalton walk? Do you let both Walk and draft a QB early. Not sure how the Bengals handle this dumpster fire they’ve gotten themselves into.

  12. ajigel says:
    September 15, 2017 at 10:13 am

    I know its fun to pile on Dalton, but a couple of years ago he had numbers that put him the in the MVP conversation. What changed? His OC tok a head coaching job and they replaced some top veterans on the O Line with turnstiles. Fix those problems first, and Dalton will be just fine.
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    Won’t go as far to say that he will be just fine…fact is Dalton requires everything around him to be right. But the reality is that the biggest problem is management, which Marvin Lewis is the figurehead for. They are the ones that have let the good coaches walk away (Zimmer and Hue Jax), promoted incompetent ones (Zampese) that don’t know how to utilize their talent, destroyed his offensive line and continue to mismanage the game-to-game roster (Ross fumbles once and you don’t play him? Mixon sees field just 1/3 of snaps?). Dalton is not the solution, but put a great QB and he has a low ceiling, but Marvinism will put a low ceiling on even great talent. Get rid of him and start with that.

  13. It’s time for changes. The coaches are too involved in personnel so their feelings for hard working players like Bodine cloud the reality that he’s not good enough.

    Dalton is shot and is seeing phantom pressure now. Anyone who allowed this line to happen need to be held accountable.

  14. Of course Andy Dalton isn’t actually the issue, despite the media narrative painting him as the problem just as they did with Carson Palmer. Just like Palmer, if Dalton goes to play under Hue Jackson or Jay Gruden he becomes a top QB again.

  15. When you have to put out a public letter to your fan base explaining the reasoning behind the drafting of a certain player, your entire organization is pretty much a raging dumpster fire. And as far as the terrible Thursday Night Football games, the product on the field is not the biggest issue. It’s enduring the horrific pain through the whole game listening to that insufferable Chris “Butthead” Collinsworth!! My God it enough to make a person long for the droning on and on and on gushing of John Gruden!

  16. Andy Dalton is 10th among active QB’s in passer rating. He hasn’t been playing like this his whole career, he’s been playing this way for 2 games. When a QB has a sudden decline like that, you have to wonder why. Well…in this case it’s pretty clear. The offensive coordinator was a bad hire. The offensive line is offensive.

  17. I think the problem is Dalton – and a whole host of others. But I always love how people’s answers are roll in (the next guy) – in this case McCarron – because he will do better. History is filled with backups who look great for their limited body of work, then don’t once people figure them out. Jimmy G doesn’t have the starting string required to game plan against him and he is anointed. But he has the Great Library behind him compared to AJ McCarron.

  18. Bengals should trade Dalton to wash to reunite with Gruden for picks. Wash can then trade Cousins to SF for way more than Dalton would cost. Bengals sign McCarron to 5 year deal that they can get out of after 3 – and have an extra pick from Wash. Wash still comes out, most likely, with an extra first rounder – and SF gets their QB. Winners all around, except for Marvin and Zampese – they need to go.

  19. therealtrenches says:
    September 15, 2017 at 10:22 am
    While watching last night’s game, I knew the vultures would begin circling this morning. But I didn’t think they’d circle around Dalton. He has proven he can put points on the board. I’d be looking in Zampese’s direction when looking to put somebody on the hot seat.

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    Why? Did Zampese cause Dalton to miss a wide open Brandon LaFell?

  20. Zampese is the FIRST problem. Then the OLine. Then Dalton. Last night they had the ball in the red zone, 1st and goal, and they try a reverse?? If you’re that frickin close to scoring, why are you running plays that potentially take you backwards?? And you can tell Dalton is worried about the rush on EVERY single play, resulting in his crappiness. So there ya go. And yes, Marvin’s voice is played out to the players cuz the D looks unmotivated half the time

  21. Unless he’s hurt, there’s no way he has regressed as much as it appears this year. He’s also significantly underpaid for a starting QB so paying someone else takes more money from the O-line free agents they should be searching next year. Changing QB’s will not do anything without a new OC and 2-3 new guys on O-Line. My solution is simple. Fire Zampese, bring back Eric Winston and play the rest of the year with 6 on the O-line. Take the top 10 draft pick you’ll wind up with and spend the whole draft on tackles and guards. For once, make a splash in free agency with a proven tackle or two. It would be great if Marvin could be fired too, but that’s not how it works in Bengaldom.

  22. aarons444 says:
    September 15, 2017 at 11:08 am

    Brees seems like a great fit for them… maybe he can bring Payton with him??..

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    I’d be happy with just one of those guys, but give Brees that offensive talent and 1 or 2 good lineman and they’d be amazing. Give Payton that offensive talent and 1 or 2 better lineman, he’d win super bowls with that defense already in place. Dream on though. When the Bengals replace Dalton it will be with a cheap rookie, not a guy looking for one last giant check.

  23. theravishingrachelnichols says:
    September 15, 2017 at 10:27 am
    exinsidetrader says:

    September 15, 2017 at 10:21 am

    When I saw the title I just knew that PFT would somehow squeeze in a Krapernick reference.
    ——————————————————-
    Kap was a once promising young QB that was easily cut thanks to his team-friendly year-to-year contract. The comparison is valid. Troll harder.

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    Didn’t Kaepernick opt out?

  24. Please get rid of Lewis and Zampese and bring in Jon Gruden. At least he will bring some intensity and discipline to the team. Yes I realize that the O-line is terrible but a good coordinator knows to how to put his guys in position to succeed and he plays to the strength of his players rather than trying to make his players fit his strengths. This team is not going to be a smash mouth running football team with this o-line and everyone knows it except Lewis and Zampese. I think this team can still be a good football team but it needs a good shock to their system to do that and I think firing Lewis and Zampese is what they need.

  25. NOTHING changes in Mike Brown’s lifetime. The team is right where he wants them, competitive-ish enough to maintain the season ticket base. If they implode, he drafts a sexy QB and instils just enough hope to keep the base. Wash, rinse, repeat. No decent head coach is touching the Cincy head coach job with a 10-foot pole post Marvin. They’ll promote Paul Alexander and retain the staff still under contract.

  26. Two thoughts on this –
    1) This is all part of the plan, if you miss the playoffs you can’t lose a playoff game.
    2) Keep or trade AD at end of season – they will make the wrong choice – Bengals being bungles.

  27. If Chubbs Gruden survives in Washington after this year, Cousins will be gone, and the Ginger without any talent could become Washington’s next QB!

    (sarcasm)

  28. nhpats says:
    September 15, 2017 at 11:20 am
    therealtrenches says:
    September 15, 2017 at 10:22 am
    While watching last night’s game, I knew the vultures would begin circling this morning. But I didn’t think they’d circle around Dalton. He has proven he can put points on the board. I’d be looking in Zampese’s direction when looking to put somebody on the hot seat.

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    Why? Did Zampese cause Dalton to miss a wide open Brandon LaFell?

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    It could be argued that he did, because the two clearly weren’t on the same page on that play and that’s on the coach. Are you saying they shouldn’t have fired Zampese but Dalton should be on the chopping block because he missed Brandon LaFell?

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