Elliott’s lawyers say NFL is more concerned about P.R. than fairness

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In response to the league’s filing of an emergency motion for a stay of the injunction blocking the suspension of Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott, Elliott’s legal team contends that the league is less concerned about how it treats its players than how it looks to the general public.

“The NFL’s latest legal maneuvering appears to be indicative of a league with an agenda: Trying to navigate a public relations crisis rather than focus on fairness and fact finding,” lawyers Frank Salzano and Scott Rosenblum said in a statement. “The only conclusion that can be drawn is that the NFL believes it can write its own rules and will stop at nothing to further its agenda of enforcing its unfounded assertions regarding Mr. Elliott. Most recently this would include the NFL seeking an expedited hearing on staying the preliminary injunction by frivolously arguing that the NFL is somehow ‘irreparably harmed’ by Elliott playing while the Courts decide whether the investigation and appeal was fundamentally unfair. Mr. Elliott and his team will continue to zealously oppose any of the NFL’s court filings.”

Last Friday, a federal judge in Texas issued the injunction based in part on the conclusion that the NFL’s process did not afford Elliott fundamental fairness. The judge pointed to, among other things, the failure to compel testimony from Elliott’s accuser, the failure to compel testimony from Commissioner Roger Goodell, and the failure to require the league to produce to Elliott the notes of its interviews of the accuser.

The league has asked for an emergency stay of the injunction to be granted by September 19 and no later than September 26. The goal is to get the suspension started, regardless of the outcome of the litigation challenging it.

67 responses to “Elliott’s lawyers say NFL is more concerned about P.R. than fairness

  1. I’m trying to figure out who in the public is clamoring for Elliott’s suspension. The NFL looks much worse for this kangaroo court than they would if they had not suspended someone who allegedly committed domestic violence.

  2. Well Duh! Did nobody pay attention to the Hit job the NFL did on Brady last year? Did people think that it could not or would not happen aing to somebody else in the league?

  3. The great irony of it all is the more the NFL tries to improve their image, the worse they look.

    Of course, they wouldn’t be in a constant state of image renewal if the bozos in the league office would just do the right thing in the first place.

  4. I agree with the attorney. As so often happens, the reaction to a bad event is often to let the pendulum swing too far to the other side. And that bad event was the Ray Rice debacle. This is going to be a hard one for the NFL to get right.

  5. Did everyone forget that the NFL is a business and does not have to abide by the same that a court has to? If I was one tape pulling down a woman’s shirt at a bar and there were reports of domestic violence my job would most likely suspend me as well. They were hit hard because of the ray rice stuff a few years ago and they are over compensating now, get over it he will serve the suspension. The Cowboys knew for months that they were talking about doing this, they are not victims and Elliot is in no way a victim.

  6. “Elliott’s lawyers say NFL is more concerned about P.R. than fairness”.

    They also felt the need to point out that the sky is blue, ice cream is yummy, and Led Zeppelin rules. Seriously, imagine if, instead of trying to cook up a case sufficient to meet a non-existent standard of proof and justify a purely arbitrary and capricious suspension, the NFL instead forced players in Elliot’s position to take some anger management counseling? This would be better for the girlfriend/spouse, better for the player, and better for the league and the fans.

  7. In Teddy We Trust says:
    September 15, 2017 at 11:55 am
    I’m trying to figure out who in the public is clamoring for Elliott’s suspension. The NFL looks much worse for this kangaroo court than they would if they had not suspended someone who allegedly committed domestic violence.

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    Well, of course. What’s disturbing is, haters of the Pats want Goodell’s lies to be true so badly, so they can keep up this decade-long smear campaign, they actually give a thumbs down on these boards when real NFL fans correctly blast Sheriff Goebbels.

    That’s how sick this has become.

    And, that game last night was one of the worst NFL games I have ever seen with penalties all over, no flow to the game and two crappy teams.

    Ratings are tanking, yet somehow Goodell has done a good job?

    Laughable.

    He can thank Bob Kraft for finalizing the 2011 CBA to only make it appear like he’s done a good job.

    The unbelievable irony.

  8. His lawyers may well be right.

    But then, the NFLPA is more interested in covering for its members than doing the right thing, such as in testing and preventing drug usage, and you don’t see Florio getting exercised about that.

  9. The only thing more ridiculous than the rules governing how the NFL handles player misconduct is the way the commissioner’s office regularly bungles these incidents. The only logical explanation I can think of is that Goodell is trying to give himself another bargaining chip for the CBA negotiations by making the discipline practices so odious that the NFLPA will agree to less money or another regular season game to get rid of them.

  10. John Gotti’s lawyer said the same thing about the DA prosecuting his client.

    He ‘zealously opposed’ the findings of the court as well.

  11. This is about PC intermingling with the power of the NFL. It’s something sad, yet funny.

    The PC Police said that the US Justice System wasn’t enough to dole out punishment. Good enough for hundreds of years, but now the PC police say they know better.

    They clamored that the NFL had to fill the gaps. On rare occasions, anyone can accept an exception. You don’t need the PC police for that.

    But the PC police wanted EVERYTHING to be punished by the NFL on top of the legal system.

    The NFL is punished each way. Too little. Too much. Someone is going to complain.

    All because they caved to pressure to go beyond the legal system by the PC police to begin with.

    Many players play the PC game. They do so at their own peril.

    So the PC players get busted by the PC NFL.

    Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

    The NFL is ultimately at fault, since they control the situation, but only after being prodded on by the PC Police, which INCLUDES the players.

    Oh the irony. PC players getting a taste of exactly what they wanted, just not how they wished it to be directed.

  12. That’s the thing with PC, it’s a scorched earth policy. One minute your their darling, the next the whipping boy. Why? Because someone out there found a way to take offense.

    Because one out of 320 or so million people feel that way, it’s your fault for not completely knowing that beforehand and making adjustments to THEIR offense. AN OUTRAGE!

    Just look at ESPN. They embraced PC. It’s sickening. Morons talking about stuff they don’t understand, then interjecting loony PC into that which they don’t understand.

    Ultimately it backfires, and they have to eat their own.

    They had to take an Asian guy off a football broadcast because his last name was Lee. They then had to deal with flak for doing that, because it was ludicrous.

    Or doing a simple fantasy auction, which was absolutely harmless, which then they got hit for it being a ‘slave auction’. Then they got hit for their stupid reaction.

    Even just this week, Jemele Hill, a certifiable moron, makes stupid and ignorant comments. She is one of their PC darlings, and ESPN had to reprimand her.

    It just never ends. Well ESPN, you made your bed….

    Isn’t it ironic that so many big entities have jumped on the PC bandwagon, and they are losing support. ESPN losing customers by the millions, soon tens of millions. NFL having declining ratings. Television programs, political parties… so on and so forth.

    People are sick of the trivial outrage.

    Meanwhile everything that matters, none of which is PC related, goes unaddressed. PC is Nero playing the fiddle while Rome burns.

    Sane people focus on what matters, say Glass-Steagall. Idiots and the insane protest over slave auctions and Colin Kaepernick.

  13. The NFL is right to be more concerned about PR than fairness at this point. The NFL got killed the last time courts gave a RB slap on the wrist.

    Nobody blamed the courts for failing to discipline….. they blamed the NFL for failure to discipline Rice. This way, even if the suspension gets overturned the NFL can take the high road (especially in the event of some video coming to light later).

    In the current social/political environment it’s better to look like you abuse your employees than come down on the wrong side of domestic abuse.

  14. fresh1120 says:
    September 15, 2017 at 12:16 pm

    Did everyone forget that the NFL is a business and does not have to abide by the same that a court has to?
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    What Federal labor laws is the NFL allowed to disregard?

  15. idioticidiom says:
    September 15, 2017 at 12:21 pm

    Or, it could just be about adhering to the rules the NFLPA set forth, but now wants to conveniently change, no?
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    No, unless the NFLPA signed off on being lied to and having information withheld from players at their appeal hearings.

    If the NFL didn’t want the players to be able to appeal their suspensions, they should have put it in the CBA.

  16. Willie Mendez says:
    September 15, 2017 at 12:30 pm
    Here’s a thought. Don’t beat up on girls, and you avoid this…

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    Umm, he didn’t beat up a girl. Here’s an idea! Have an honorable, principled commissioner who doesn’t blantantly cheat and collude with certain owners to keep his 40 mil per year job.

  17. Were it not for fantasy football, most people would agree with the NFL. But they have Zeke on their team, so they suddenly feel the need to defend him, much like the “Free Josh Gordon!!” days.

  18. The great irony of it all is the more the NFL tries to improve their image, the worse they look.
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    Can’t say I agree.

    They have enough issues to overcome (quality of play, long-term saftey).. I’m glad they will no longer tolerate teh Ray Rice, Greg Hardy, Leonard Little and Donte Stallworths of the world.

    If it offends people that they are banning low-lifes and dirt bags, I’m not sure what to say.

  19. Agree with Elliott’s lawyers. The NFL and their foray into these social issues are starting to make people vomit. From the domestic violence, to the Kaep not being employed for the national anthem protest, gender bathroom laws or we won’t reward your city with a Super Bowl. The NFL needs to stop trying to be society’s conscience…because your NOT NFL.

  20. Those in support of Zeke: so you’re saying he did nothing wrong and has no history of doing anything inappropriate with woman or against the law? You can start by going back to his OSU days and fast forward to the position he’s in now. The fact that the argument(s) are about the process and not about his actions should open your eyes. He’s done some dumb things and he’s hiding behind technicalities based upon how the case was handled. Have you every heard him deny anything? He finally admitted to smoking weed at OSU. If he were innocent all the time why do you never hear him say it? You can hate on Roger Goodell all you want but what if that was your daughter? I doubt you would be saying the same thing.

  21. Entering our 23rd fantasy season (2 QB league)…Lost interest in the NFL about 4-5 years ago. Full-time Thursday Night Football did it for me. The oversaturation just made it less of a priority to me. You wouldn’t think 1 game on another night would do that, but it just does. I still check in on PFT rarely to occasionally and manage my fantasy team, but I spend about 30-45 min per week as opposed to 2-3 hours per week managing my team (few years ago).

    College football is awesome, but the playoff system still sucks with only 4 teams. The minute it goes to 6 (or 8) will be the time when I essentially let go of the NFL.

  22. Here’s a thought. Don’t beat up on girls, and you avoid this

    Here’s a thought: prove it. The police couldn’t and the NFL couldn’t either. You can believe what you want about the situation, but that isn’t good enough to incarcerate or suspend him.

  23. In theory this should take less than 5 minutes. The NFLPA should be able to slap the NFL’s lead investigators report on the judges desk and say “read that your honor, we rest our case”. Judge flips through it, awards the decision to Elliott, and fines the NFL 100 million dollars for wasting everyone’s time.

  24. RegisHawk says:
    September 15, 2017 at 12:48 pm

    Were it not for fantasy football, most people would agree with the NFL.
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    Why? The NFL is wrong.

  25. psubeerman21 says:
    September 15, 2017 at 1:03 pm
    Here’s a thought. Don’t beat up on girls, and you avoid this

    Here’s a thought: prove it. The police couldn’t and the NFL couldn’t either. You can believe what you want about the situation, but that isn’t good enough to incarcerate or suspend him.

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    I believe a saw a video of Elliott pulling a woman’s shirt down in public…and this was while he knew he was under investigation and “keeping his nose clean”. Let me guess….”she asked for it”.

  26. nhpats says:
    September 15, 2017 at 1:25 pm

    I believe a saw a video of Elliott pulling a woman’s shirt down in public…and this was while he knew he was under investigation and “keeping his nose clean”. Let me guess….”she asked for it”.
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    You are not sure if you saw that video? What does that video have to do with getting railroaded by Lisa Friel?

    Oh, I guess you are saying this is just like when Roger seized upon the opportunity to lie about Brady’s phone. I see where you are coming from.

  27. Some day you guys will understand that the “prove it” argument is meaningless. Until then, I guess we’ll just have to sift through the dross to find valid points to discuss.

  28. Where was this determination to suspend at all costs last year when a John Mara employee was the subject of an investigation?

  29. In a better world, you would hope that the NFL would not be about PR. You’d hope that they would want the players that represent their brand be a little more human and a little less sub-human.

  30. First thing after signing. Lifetime subscription to Uber. Second thing, never go back to hood you worked so hard to escape. Third, avoid drama queens. Fourth, if you ignore #3, take your licks like a man.

  31. They care less about PR than they do about retaining power. If they let Elliott win, especially in the courts, they will never be able to randomly suspend a player again. That greatly reduces Mara’s ability to compete.

  32. The players would be crazy to agree to any CBA that doesn’t include the immediate firing of Goodell. The guy is single handedly ruining the league and apparently the owners aren’t going to do anything about it.

  33. Goodell’s MO is to take out his inability to handle these situations on the players. He creates PR nightmares then tries to fix them by going overboard and railroading someone else.

    1. Completely mess up a domestic violence case and create PR nightmare (Ryan Rice)
    2. Effectively suspend player 15 games and end up in legal trouble(Adrian Peterson)
    3. Completely mess up a domestic violence case and create PR nightmare (Josh Brown)
    4. Suspend next player 6 games at all costs based on an allegation with no evidence (Ezekiel Elliott)

  34. In Teddy We Trust says:

    I’m trying to figure out who in the public is clamoring for Elliott’s suspension.
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    Well, you have a few people who always complain about Goodell, but since they hate the Cowboys even more they change their tune in this case. Even though the accusers text messages totally clear him.

  35. I believe a saw a video of Elliott pulling a woman’s shirt down in public…and this was while he knew he was under investigation and “keeping his nose clean”. Let me guess….”she asked for it”

    See, you just don’t like him. Pulling a woman’s shirt down means he’s guilty of domestic abuse? Is that your argument? If you think that proves anything other than he’s a jerk, maybe you should be working for the NFL.

  36. RegisHawk says:
    September 15, 2017 at 1:38 pm

    Some day you guys will understand that the “prove it” argument is meaningless. Until then, I guess we’ll just have to sift through the dross to find valid points to discuss.
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    It’s one thing for the NFL to lie to the public about a guy deflating some footballs to gain some imaginary advantage, but it is a completely different matter for them to lie and brand a guy as a domestic abuser without a shred of credible proof.

  37. psubeerman21 says:
    September 15, 2017 at 3:08 pm
    I believe a saw a video of Elliott pulling a woman’s shirt down in public…and this was while he knew he was under investigation and “keeping his nose clean”. Let me guess….”she asked for it”

    See, you just don’t like him. Pulling a woman’s shirt down means he’s guilty of domestic abuse? Is that your argument? If you think that proves anything other than he’s a jerk, maybe you should be working for the NFL.

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    I’d say it goes to Elliott’s character. And moreover, that incident in and of itself is enough for Goodell to suspend Elliott for conduct detrimental to the NFL. But mostly I would say it shows Elliott is an entitled spoiled moron.

  38. nhpats says:
    September 15, 2017 at 3:24 pm

    And moreover, that incident in and of itself is enough for Goodell to suspend Elliott for conduct detrimental to the NFL.
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    Then the moron should have suspended him for that, and not used a player in some elaborate scheme to try and make up for the NFL’s incompetence on domestic violence.

  39. In Teddy We Trust says:
    September 15, 2017 at 11:55 am
    I’m trying to figure out who in the public is clamoring for Elliott’s suspension. The NFL looks much worse for this kangaroo court than they would if they had not suspended someone who allegedly committed domestic violence.
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    Infantile Giants, Redskins and Eagles fans.

  40. fresh1120 says:
    September 15, 2017 at 12:16 pm
    Did everyone forget that the NFL is a business and does not have to abide by the same that a court has to? If I was one tape pulling down a woman’s shirt at a bar and there were reports of domestic violence my job would most likely suspend me as well. They were hit hard because of the ray rice stuff a few years ago and they are over compensating now, get over it he will serve the suspension. The Cowboys knew for months that they were talking about doing this, they are not victims and Elliot is in no way a victim.
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    Understanding of course the women who he pulled her top down on could testify it was her idea and leave a wide open slam dunk wrongful termination suit. Noting of course that actual event didn’t take place on company property so the conduct policy is a bit limiting.

  41. RegisHawk says:
    September 15, 2017 at 1:38 pm
    Some day you guys will understand that the “prove it” argument is meaningless. Until then, I guess we’ll just have to sift through the dross to find valid points to discuss.
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    There’s always the violation of company policy that many people still fail to understand.

  42. RegisHawk says:
    September 15, 2017 at 12:48 pm
    Were it not for fantasy football, most people would agree with the NFL. But they have Zeke on their team, so they suddenly feel the need to defend him, much like the “Free Josh Gordon!!” days.
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    Pssshhhh forget the clear and blatant labor law violations. Who needs ’em anyway?

  43. aarons444 says:
    September 15, 2017 at 12:52 pm

    Can’t say I agree.

    They have enough issues to overcome (quality of play, long-term saftey).. I’m glad they will no longer tolerate teh Ray Rice, Greg Hardy, Leonard Little and Donte Stallworths of the world.

    If it offends people that they are banning low-lifes and dirt bags, I’m not sure what to say.
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    It’s not offense suspending low-lifes and dirt bags. It’s offense suspending them as such without proving it.

  44. kmartinson says:
    September 15, 2017 at 1:00 pm
    Those in support of Zeke: so you’re saying he did nothing wrong and has no history of doing anything inappropriate with woman or against the law? You can start by going back to his OSU days and fast forward to the position he’s in now. The fact that the argument(s) are about the process and not about his actions should open your eyes. He’s done some dumb things and he’s hiding behind technicalities based upon how the case was handled. Have you every heard him deny anything? He finally admitted to smoking weed at OSU. If he were innocent all the time why do you never hear him say it? You can hate on Roger Goodell all you want but what if that was your daughter? I doubt you would be saying the same thing.
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    So his past makes him guilty? Nobody is saying he did anything wrong or right. It’s about proving it one way or the other. The process is absolutely eye opening. It’s completely and utterly incapable of determining guilt or innocence. THAT’s the problem.

    And I can assure you my daughter wouldn’t be calling her abuser after the fact. Or seeking him out at a party. Or going to his house. Or trying to extort money from him.
    She’d be putting as much distance as possible between the two of them.

  45. idioticidiom says:
    September 15, 2017 at 1:11 pm
    @MMack…..Sounds like something to put on the agenda for the next CBA. Until that point, you have no point…
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    Article 46 section 1 paragraph 1 …

    “Fairness”

  46. Of course it’s about image…It’s why he made up what Spygate was or what Deflategate was. He knew he had all the support of jealous, cheating owners and 95% of NFL fans would love to see them cheat the Pats, regardless of how obvious it was.

    It’s why I can list 6 former coaches who backed BB On Spygate and were thoroughly confused as to why Goodell was punishing the Pats for something all teams did or were doing.

    Even Don Shula, before he realized NE might go 16-0, said “What is the big deal?”

    So, that’s actually SEVEN former NFL coaches who backed BB originally when Goodell framed the Pats for Spygate. Goodell KNEW the Jets/Pats tiff tied to the BB/Mangini tiff. He knew it.

    He used that to frame and punish the Pats only to keep parity and curb their domination, at the behest of the guy (Woody Johnson) who hired Roger Goodell.

    And, when it went bad, you cut these guys loose! You doctored the log books! You had Markinson sign a phony transfer order…….Did you order the code red??!

    And we know Brady was framed by Goodell because Goodell admitted he had no real evidence in court.

    Arrest, try and convict Roger Goodell.

  47. nhpats says:
    September 15, 2017 at 3:24 pm

    I’d say it goes to Elliott’s character. And moreover, that incident in and of itself is enough for Goodell to suspend Elliott for conduct detrimental to the NFL. But mostly I would say it shows Elliott is an entitled spoiled moron.
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    The bad thing about judging on character is that it works both ways.

  48. Elliot’s lawyers are more concerned about Elliot’s payday and his career than they are the NFL’s reputation.

    It’s not a court of law, so some of those arguments are irrelevant.

    From what I’ve read Elliot was very obstructive during the process, now claims he didn’t have a chance to give his story. Can’t have it both ways.

  49. kmartinson says:
    September 15, 2017 at 1:00 pm

    You can hate on Roger Goodell all you want but what if that was your daughter?
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    If Roger Goodell was my daughter, I would disown her.

  50. @ upper23,

    Elliott was obstructive? Really? First l have heard of him being anything but cooperative, and from a hater. Real credible, bro.

    I would say it was Goodell, Henderson and Friel who were obstructive by not allowing the lead investigator Kia Roberts (who interviewed the lying accuser on multiple occasions) to be inclued in the hearing on June 26th. They decided to disregard actual testimony from the accuser, and relied on photos that came from the psycho accuser being in a bar fight. Why is the psycho’s character not being questioned?

    Haters are gonna hate. PATHETIC but true…

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