Santana Moss: RG3’s issues with coaches are why he’s not playing anymore

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Santana Moss says he’s just trying to level with Robert Griffin III.

After a war of words erupted between Moss and Griffin, Moss went on CSN Mid Atlantic and said that Griffin needs to understand that his inability to work with coaches Mike Shanahan and Jay Gruden is the reason he’s no longer in the NFL.

“This guy, I think, can still play this game. He might not be a starter, but he still should be able to play. But when you have those situations that occur with coaches,” Moss said.

Griffin, for his part, claims that his problem with Mike Shanahan was that Shanahan never wanted him to quarterback his team in the first place. Now there are 32 coaches who don’t want Griffin to quarterback their team, and so Griffin is out of football at age 27.

61 responses to “Santana Moss: RG3’s issues with coaches are why he’s not playing anymore

  1. Multimillion dollar talent……10 cent ego.

    Listen to those who have knowledge and you shall learn.

    Watch those who have done that and learn

    Close your mind and you will be lost.

    This kid had it all…..ego took it away.

  2. Santana is a straight shooter. If RG3 (or even Kaep) were as good as league average starter they would be on rosters. But in the matrix of making an NFL roster, you can’t be a headache and as good as Ryan Fitzpatrick. It’s not as complicated as conspiracy theorists want it to be.

  3. He doesn’t take well to coaching, period. Even in Cleveland, he was doing super-passive-aggressive things like throwing the ball out of the entire practice facility when the coaches were trying to get him to get rid of the ball on broken plays.

  4. Moss-Maybe you aren’t looking at the whole picture. RG3 did not have a coach issue until he came to Washington and did not have a coach problem when he went to the Browns even when they had a losing season trying to find a single win at least!!!!! His college coach got great success out of him even through injury and together they brought the first Heisman EVER to Baylor. Now that’s how things get done when a coach knows what the hell he is doing working with young ballers!!! And, they didn’t seem to have a damn problem with him as long as they were winning!!!! Why is this crap presented so one sided. And as far as Jay Gruden-THERE JUST ARE NO WORDS FOR THIS PERPETRATOR! Neither one of those guys have a preference for RG3’s accomplished style of play. So what else could happen in this situation. But what can I say, there have been a lot of coaches and players taking the fall for Jay Gruden and all of his bad decisions.

    Perhaps his reputation took a hit because of the mishandling of this young man by Mike Shanahan and Jay Gruden. This is ridiculous. Washington DCj, MOSS, and all the rest of the ungrateful DC fans (not the supporters of RG3) GET OUT OF THIS BOYS LIFE!!!!

  5. The only pro-RG3 argument I can come close to buying is Snyder shouldn’t have been his buddy. But can you blame Snyder for wanting a popular successful black quarterback in this day and age of snowflakes and when some of RG3’s luster ugly have rubbed off on Dan. PR matters but RG stunk and had the ability to torpedo his coach.

  6. Seems to be a lot of that going around. Coaches not wanting quarterbacks that either can’t implement the playbook or are a huge distraction, or want to be party central. Funny how that works.

  7. Here another take to this Moss Mess!! There are always two sides to every coin. That probably IS why Mike Shanahan is out of coaching right now. He mishandled a top draft pick and did not know how to make the most of this situation. Good negotiators know how to get stuff done. Shanny was a loser in DC before RG3 and he has not coached since. Where is Messy Moss’s comment about that sided. And how about Kyle-he succeeded because he copied what RG3’s coach at Baylor had already used. He did not create that offense. He tailored it. But that helped his career as well. Heck, check out Sean McVEigh’s bio on his new teams site, they even included his success with RG3 in his rookie year. And maybe Kyles stubbornness is why he is stuck with Brian Hoyer right now in San Fran when he could have had RG3. DECISIONS!!!

  8. Serious question- why is nobody focused on the fact that RGIII hasn’t been signed? He’s better than a ton of backups.

  9. Institutional politics is alive in the NFL just like any other big company so, wake up! Coaches treat their players like property, devalue them in from of their peers and fans, show them no professional respect and them throw them under the bus and black ball them if they don’t like it. Wow, welcome to the real working work dude.
    But, as Fortune 500 Companies go, it’s still a manner of who has the most $$$$ has the most power, and there is a pecking order even in the good ole boys club which is why Roger Goodell now finds his contract extension blocked by Jerry Jones!
    Everybody has to kiss up–it’s the unwritten rule of the game. Shanahan was a jerk but he was the immediate supervisor and had lots of friends and colleagues in the league so why are you surprised Robert? This is the way the world works…nobody does what they want, ask Kaep about that!

  10. thefirstsmilergrogan says:
    September 20, 2017 at 8:55 am
    pretty sure shanahan could have used all the draft picks given for rg me myself and I, along with capt kirk and done better long term…..

    ________________
    Maybe you shouldn’t ought to buy a Ferrari if you prefer a common everyday nice conversion van. It’s not that complicated. Last I heard, RG3 did not ask the skins to draft him. I am sure he would have preferred to be drafted by Dallas, someone who knows what to do with Ferrari’s!

  11. regaliaimagewear

    He didn’t have coach issues at Baylor because Art Briles recruited him hard and wanted him to be the facilitator of his “offense”. That “offense” also contributed to his struggles at the pro level since there was no playbook, very little verbal to remember and was encouraged to take off if his 2nd read wasn’t open. Of course he wasn’t a coach killer before the NFL, Briles is a pro QB killer with the off field stuff he allowed to go on and the on field production which was had the complexity of a middle school offense!!

  12. objectivefootballfan says:
    September 20, 2017 at 7:44 am
    RG3 still making headlines and he is out of the NFL!

    It’s Washington, D.C. The QB has ALWAYS been the biggest thing other than the POTUS… and sometimes bigge! Right or wrong; it’s the culture here since 1933! Now that the last two mercurial figures are in both positions; this is what you get! It’s a D.C. thing; just like things are different for your local town. We just happen to be the Nation’s Capital, and it’s going to get more press; right or wrong!

  13. Well I mean, the media hype surrounding his draft stock, the way the population bit on that hype, and the mega trade to go get him will certainly bolster ones ego.

    Come on, a LITTLE bit of this is on us guys. No wonder he has that attitude, we sure did speak of his greatness quite frequently.

    Now the peanut gallery has turned on our hero, lets see if he can redeem himself….

  14. regalimagiewear,
    I mean RG3,..

    It’s always someone else’s fault, right?
    Maybe if the (in your words) “boy” were to act like a pro, or even a mature adult male, or even like an immature adult for that matter, no one would have to “get out” of his life.
    Pro sports doesn’t need to be dragged down further by the likes of RGme.

  15. Putting RG’s HUGE ego aside (he really does believe his own hype) there is no denying that Shanahan kept him in that playoff game too long and ruined this guy’s career. He has never been the same. It was the coach’s responsibility to sit him, not the player’s. The guy could barely walk. There’s no way the red lobster didn’t see that.

  16. “Maybe you shouldn’t ought to buy a Ferrari if you prefer a common everyday nice conversion van. It’s not that complicated. Last I heard, RG3 did not ask the skins to draft him. I am sure he would have preferred to be drafted by Dallas, someone who knows what to do with Ferrari’s!”.

    Yes, Jerrah likes “Ferrari’s”, as in taking chances on talented head cases (Zeke, Hardy, TO, etc.), so why didn’t the Cowboys pick up RGMe in the offseason when they have no veteran backups for Dak? Could it be that Jerrah recognized RGMe as having the frame of a Ferrari but the guts of a broken down Pinto?

  17. Not really. It’s his inability to stay healthy. Hue Jackson and his staff didn’t say anything bad about him. Furthermore, who’d see not being able to work with Shanahan, a known under-the-bus tosser and bad coach since 20 years ago, or Gruden who is truly the definition of mediocre? He’s always going to be Jon’s little brother who hasn’t exceeded at anything. The fact still stands that Griffin had the best season in that franchise’s history under Daniel Snyder, which speaks volumes. Even Joe Gibbs couldn’t succeed in that environment.

  18. Daniel Varnadore says:
    September 20, 2017 at 9:09 am
    regaliaimagewear

    He didn’t have coach issues at Baylor because Art Briles recruited him hard and wanted him to be the facilitator of his “offense”. That “offense” also contributed to his struggles at the pro level since there was no playbook, very little verbal to remember and was encouraged to take off if his 2nd read wasn’t open. Of course he wasn’t a coach killer before the NFL, Briles is a pro QB killer with the off field stuff he allowed to go on and the on field production which was had the complexity of a middle school offense!!
    ____________
    Stop twisting and ignoring facts. What Art Briles did at Baylor given where they were when he arrived was brilliant. IN THE NFL They give pure pocket passers 10 years in the league to get what they need, so a team aught to be at least smart enough to have patience with spread trained guys (who by the way are out performing their same aged pro style trained peers (when they get with the right organization and coach of course.)). It does take a special coach to understand those guys. i.e. Wilson, Cam, Kaep with Harbaugh. The coach is EVERYTHING to these guys success. You either embrace it or scoff at it like Mike Shanahan and definitely Jay Gruden. It is so funny to see Jay sprinkling in some read option stuff for Kirk. I just laugh my a$$ off!! Off the field at Baylor has nothing to do with Washington and their mishandling of Griffin. the fact as you so well stated, Briles WANTED GRIFFIN AND TAUGHT HIM HOW TO PLAY THAT WAY!!!! Griffin is a thrower dude. And he got with Briles program because Briles understands PEOPLE and together they were amazing and BIG FUN!!!
    Washington is a hugely boring a$$ football team under Gruden and Cousins.

  19. I’m not an RG3 fan but to be fair, Mike Shanahan is a backstabbing egomaniac while Hue Jackson is an egomaniac who is also crazy.

  20. In many ways RGME is uncoachable. How else would you explain a QB who never mastered pocket footwork, or runs as primary instinct. And trying to convince owner, that coach is a dumb ass. The bottom line is that his performance, never matched his mouth. Look at Wins v losses, and he is a dismal failure.

  21. Andrew Luck may not be the answer in Indianapolis, but you have to think there is some horseshoe magic going on there.

    Luck over RG3
    Edgerrin over St Ricky (Ricky ended up non-bust)
    Peyton over Leaf

    Could have been much worse for Colts over last 20 years.

  22. Shanahan didn’t want to draft RGIII, and after Snyder fired him, he hired Gruden on the condition he agreed to keep RGIII. Many other candidates probably said “Forget it”. No coach wants to inherit a QB.

  23. Hmmmmm….. Would the Redskins have won at least one of the games against the Cardinals, Panthers, or the last game against the Giants last year? You can say a lot of things but RG3 is not one to throw game losing picks. He actually protects the ball quite well in the 4th quarter.

  24. Seriously, the “new QB prototype” hoopla of 2011-ish. The “big 4” of Luck, Wilson, Kaep, and RG3.

    Kaep and RG3 were figured out/injured within a season or two.
    Luck’s abominable offensive line and laughable management has more or less detonated his career.
    Wilson won a SB 4 seasons ago but now struggles to put up more than 6 points a game.

    Where are America’s young pocket passers?

  25. For those creating an equivalence between RG3 and Kapernick’s situations:

    RG3 was given a chance by another team just last year, and it went disastrously. As a result, I think it is fair to question his ability at this point…

  26. September 20, 2017 at 8:55 am
    Maybe you shouldn’t ought to buy a Ferrari if you prefer a common everyday nice conversion van. It’s not that complicated. Last I heard, RG3 did not ask the skins to draft him. I am sure he would have preferred to be drafted by Dallas, someone who knows what to do with Ferrari’s!

    first of all, Dallas wouldn’t know a ferrari if it landed in their garage. they wanted lynch, not dak. they kept romo on the bench for the likes of quincy carter, and a couple other former baseball players.. but even dallas wouldn’t give up three ones and a bunch of other stuff for robert griffin, despite the fact he played his college ball in texas.

    and no player chooses the team that drafts them. but all the rest of the players go out and do their job and learn how to be the best player they can be. griffin came to d.c. like he was the emperor, and over three years his actions caused him to eventually lose the trust of everyone in the organization, even little danny who enabled him for such a long time.

  27. And before anyone says Moss is just speaking his mind, how much did he have to say about the current issues there, namely how Bruce Allen ran McCloughan out of town by smearing him as coming to work drunk everyday, or how much has he had to say about how Snyder continues to run this team, or how much did he have to say about Gruden not being able to make a playoffs last year in a division that was there for them to make a move on last year? Those are the current problems, yet he’s talking about a guy who hasn’t taken a snap for that team in going on 4 years now. Speaks volumes about him and why Washington continues to be a bad team.

  28. When a running QB and his father confront the Head Coach and tell him he wants to be a drop back QB and gives the coach a list of plays he will no longer run, that is a problem. So Shanny tried to accommodate the QB, but he SUCKS as a drop back QB because he cannot read defenses.

    RGIII cared more about his Brand than learning to be an NFL QB. He cannot read defenses and cannot find the open man. Some sportscaster in Washington showed an analysis of RGIII plays that he blew from just one game. He showed how RGIII could not find the open man. Each play had an open man and he did not notice.

    Sad. Brilliant person, incredible athlete, but no football intelligence.

  29. thefirstsmilergrogan says:
    September 20, 2017 at 11:15 am
    September 20, 2017 at 8:55 am
    Maybe you shouldn’t ought to buy a Ferrari if you prefer a common everyday nice conversion van. It’s not that complicated. Last I heard, RG3 did not ask the skins to draft him. I am sure he would have preferred to be drafted by Dallas, someone who knows what to do with Ferrari’s!

    first of all, Dallas wouldn’t know a ferrari if it landed in their garage. they wanted lynch, not dak. they kept romo on the bench for the likes of quincy carter, and a couple other former baseball players.. but even dallas wouldn’t give up three ones and a bunch of other stuff for robert griffin, despite the fact he played his college ball in texas.

    and no player chooses the team that drafts them. but all the rest of the players go out and do their job and learn how to be the best player they can be. griffin came to d.c. like he was the emperor, and over three years his actions caused him to eventually lose the trust of everyone in the organization, even little danny who enabled him for such a long time.
    ____________
    Oh really? Where are all the rest of the guys that balled out with Griffin in 2012 that were also drafted and or balled out with him? Just looking at the poster the other day. Griffin/Morris/Garceon-ALL GONE!!!I Just a dumb uninformed statement. Oh, you guys selected Cousins out of all the drafted guys, which are mostly all gone. By the way, that is just the way these dumb NFL teams seem to operate. The new regime slowly gets rid of all the guys that were brought in under the old regime. Sounds familiar? You guys so deserve to celebrate your 8 and 8 handiwork!!!

  30. regaliaimagewear says:
    September 20, 2017 at 8:18 am
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    You might be the only person I have heard defend Briles when he coached Baylor. He’s a deplorable human being. And just because you can run that BS offense in college in the BIG 12 doesn’t mean you can in the pros. Where every starter is as fast as the next guy. In the BIG 12 you can find the bums out there and go at them all day and pad stats. Not so much in the NFL, even the bums…are the best of the bums. RG3=Big 12 Bumslayer. Get over it, if being and NFL QB was easy everyone would do it, instead of 32 guys. There’s nobody sitting at home that should be starting in the NFL. Nobody.

  31. urfinished says:
    September 20, 2017 at 7:57 am
    Santana is a straight shooter. If RG3 (or even Kaep) were as good as league average starter they would be on rosters. But in the matrix of making an NFL roster, you can’t be a headache and as good as Ryan Fitzpatrick. It’s not as complicated as conspiracy theorists want it to be.

    ——————————————-

    This is an overall good take. You can’t be average and be a headache at the same time, that’s valid. However, this thread is about RG3 not kaepernick so he shouldn’t be included. And furthermore Kaepernick took his team to a Super Bowl and absolutely is better than ALL 32 backup QB’s in the league, so no more garbage takes about his play. Look his numbers up from last year before you try to compare him to others. Ok I’m done now…

  32. What really sucks about all this, is you heard these rumblings as early as season 1. That RG3 was separated from the team and was buddies with the owner

    If this wasn’t true about RG3, it’d never been said.

  33. Rg3 did play in a system like the one at Baylor and got hurt and refused to do it anymore because of the injury so they gave him a traditional offense and he was to slow on reads and performed poorly. The reason no team wants him to run a Baylor offens now is because running was get hurt to offten in the NFL.

  34. regalia: and as to the inclusion of kirk cousins in the rg discussion, this is due to the fact that for the first time in anyone’s memory an nfl team drafted two quarterbacks in the first and fourth round of the same draft, made even stranger by the fact that this is the draft in which they had bet the farm on rg in the first place……

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