Tens of thousands of empty seats likely at Rams-49ers game

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The NFL has been struggling to sell tickets in California so far this season, and when two California teams meet tonight, empty seats will abound.

The San Francisco Chronicle reports that tonight’s game could draw the worst crowd in the four-season history of Levi’s Stadium, based on data from ticket resale sites.

The cheapest face value ticket for a 49ers game is $85, but tickets are going for just $14 on StubHub for tonight’s game. Fans will take any price they can get to unload tickets to a game they don’t want to see.

It’s not just San Francisco where the NFL is struggling to sell tickets. Both Los Angeles teams, the Rams and Chargers, played in front of small crowds on Sunday. The Chargers couldn’t even fill up their tiny soccer stadium, while the Rams played in front of a half-full L.A. Coliseum the day after the USC-Texas game packed the house. Oakland is off to a hot start that has Raiders fans excited, but plenty of fans have been turned off by the team’s decision to move to Las Vegas.

The 49ers aren’t playing well enough to get the local fans excited, and Thursday night games are often a tough sell. Expect tens of thousands of empty seats in Santa Clara tonight.

144 responses to “Tens of thousands of empty seats likely at Rams-49ers game

  1. It’s laughable that the NFL put this game in prime time thinking anyone will care. A test pattern running on PBS is going to have higher ratings…….

  2. Two things at play here. First, winning solves everything. If you win people will show up, the bandwagon effect. Second, the product overall is getting worse and attendance and tv ratings continue to decline. The NFL will use it’s propaganda machine to tell us that last year it was due to the election and this year it is due to the hurricanes, but the reality that they don’t want to deal with is the sport is losing fans, lots of fans. It is still the most watched sport in the United States, but it is losing steam and alienating fans by hijacking teams from Oakland, San Diego, & St. Louis and moving them to where they are not wanted. The reason for doing this is relocation fees and cities willing to subsidize stadiums. What they overlooked was that those new cities have millions of people in them that already root for other teams.

  3. I live in Los Angeles. Not from here and I’m not a California sports fan. I also would not pay for the NFL Experience of getting overcharged to attend any NFL game or pay $100 dollars to park a car or spend a ton for crap beer and bad food. That being said I don’t know anyone here who cares a single bit about the Chargers. I have seen some people wear Rams gear but not enough to notice through the sea of Lakers, Dodgers, USC, UCLA, Clippers and especially Raiders gear. The NFL made a huge mistake by getting greedy and arrogant with the Rams/Chargers move to LA. If they really cared about their product in Southern California they would have kept the Chargers in the only place in the country where people cared. San Diego. And they would have moved the ONLY franchise to Los Angeles that the people here wanted. The Raiders.

  4. xpensivewinos says:
    September 21, 2017 at 12:09 pm
    It’s laughable that the NFL put this game in prime time thinking anyone will care. A test pattern running on PBS is going to have higher ratings…….
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    What time does that test pattern start running?

  5. Does it really matter if the game is sold out or 10 people are there? Teams make so much off the TV contracts does attendance really matter?

  6. $14 ticket + $30 in fees. yeah, that’s almost $50. So much for a $14 ticket. lol. Tag on $60 for parking and $15 for a beer, all to watch some AA college football quality. The Yorks should be ashamed of themselves. Someone needs to buy he team and bring Harbaugh back, give him full control of the roster.

  7. I don’t fault 49ers fans. They had a regime that was destroyed by egos. Baalke, Harbaugh and Kaep. They had all the makings of a powerhouse/dynasty, now all are gone and you want to get on the fans case about not going to a game with Bryan Hoyer and Jared Goff at the helm?

    Please. This Franchise should lose money as a form of punishment.

    Also i feel bad for the players and fans of the former St Louis Rams and San Diego chargers. LA got 2 teams they didn’t need or even want.

  8. I seriously wonder if the ad sales guys from the NFL can keep a straight face when talking to a potential advertiser when trying to sell ad space for this game.

  9. IIRC, in 2013 when the Seahawks were on their way to the SB and the Rams were still floundering in Fisher-levels of ineptitude, the cheap seats for the SEA@STL game were $6.

  10. Maybe not as extreme as California, but there are lots of empty seats in a lot of stadiums these days. That wasn’t the case 10-years ago. Stadiums are not getting bigger. Many are covering extra seats.

  11. truninerfan49 says:
    September 21, 2017 at 12:17 pm
    Does it really matter if the game is sold out or 10 people are there? Teams make so much off the TV contracts does attendance really matter?

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    That means everything to each of the 32-owners. While they DO make billions from the TV contracts, that money has to be equally split amongst all 32 owners. Whereas, the profits from the actual stadium revenue is exclusive to each owner.

  12. The Jed, John & Denise York legacy has quite a bit to do with it. Oh and Levi Stadium is a disaster in need of millions of dollars of fixes already. Thank god it’s an evening game or even less people would be in the stands.

  13. How does Roger think that the NFL will ever grow to $25 Billion a year if they keep trotting out this tripe?

    Oh, and suspending star players for no legitimate reason isn’t helping either.

  14. You imply that the Raiders have attendance issues by writing “plenty of fans have been turned off by the team’s decision to move to Las Vegas.”. The home opener was a packed house, and season ticket holders we’re getting 2, 3, and 4x face value on the resale market for that game. I know because I tried to get Tix but wasn’t willing to pay that much. Some fans are turned off, most are loyal want to see a game in-person before they leave.

  15. Stubborn owners believe that they could drop a team in Chinook Alaska and fans will fill stadiums. And now the owners are about to re-up that dopey Goodell. More dumb decisions from billionaires.

  16. Why the NFL ever thought L.A. could support two teams is beyond when they’ve never been able to support even one team. I was at the Rams game last weekend and the only reason that the stadium was half-full was because half of those fans were Redskins fans! Now comes word that San Francisco won’t do much better and you can see why the NFL should really be concerned. Viewers are leaving in huge numbers for lots of reasons and the NFL billionaire owners are under the delusion that the goose that lays the golden egg will never die. Wrong.

  17. Jed York is an embarrassment of an owner. By moving the team’s stadium to Santa Clara, he effectively cut off his entire loyal fanbase. There is no character to Levi’s stadium, there is no home field advantage. As a player, I would not want to play there either.

    Poor fan support, highest cost of living in the country, bad ownership. It’s going to be a sad few decades for 49er fans.

  18. I don’t fault 49ers fans. They had a regime that was destroyed by egos. Baalke, Harbaugh and Kaep.
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    Let’s not sully the name of Jim Harbaugh by lumping him in with those other two. He’s leading a college football program to new heights. Where are Baalke and Kaep?

  19. truninerfan49 says:
    September 21, 2017 at 12:17 pm

    Does it really matter if the game is sold out or 10 people are there? Teams make so much off the TV contracts does attendance really matter?
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    50-60,000 people x $30-$50 bucks adds up.

  20. I’m looking forward to not watching this game. The nice thing about not having a single fantasy player active in tonight’s game means I don’t need to subject myself to the NFL’s notoriously shoddy TNF product.

  21. The less money dealers make, and less viewers on TV will eventually trickle down to the players. I would gladly support the players of yesteryear, but these guys? Why play football just be professional protesters.

  22. $14 seems like a great deal for a primetime game at a fairly new stadium. Even if the teams are bad, it doesn’t matter. I’d buy those tickets

  23. If college football were smart they would turn Thursday night into a premiere game and steal all the football fans who’d rather watch a decent game.

  24. I hope this is a harbinger of things to come all across the NFL. The National Felons League has become arrogant, milking taxpayers, abandoning markets and allowing their players to make political statements in a sports venue.

    Hopefully, the NFL has reached the top of the mountain and LET THE DOWNHILL JOURNEY BEGIN!

  25. I know the Redskins are a very popular team, but that Redskins and Rams game last weekend at the LA Coliseum was really a home game for the Redskins. There were probably a 3 to 1 ratio of Redskins to Rams fans!

  26. “$14!! – does that include beer and dog?”

    Nope. Parking will still be 40-50 bucks, beer $10, dogs $15 etc.

    Mark Cuban was right. These guys are hogs of epic proportions and the greed of the owners with moving of the teams and extortion attempts for billion dollar palaces built by taxpayers, combined with corrupt Goodell and his cronies are killing the league.

  27. truninerfan49 says:
    September 21, 2017 at 12:17 pm
    Does it really matter if the game is sold out or 10 people are there? Teams make so much off the TV contracts does attendance really matter?

    – – –

    That means everything to each of the 32-owners. While they DO make billions from the TV contracts, that money has to be equally split amongst all 32 owners. Whereas, the profits from the actual stadium revenue is exclusive to each owner.

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    pretty sure the visiting NFL team gets half the gate or ticket money but owners keep concessions, parking, merch for themselves.

  28. sure $14 for tickets BUT:

    -Expensive stadium food

    -Drunk ppl puking & getting into fights

    -Parking & traffic leaving the stadium

    …it’s just not worth it for such a crap match-up.

    Folks are better off staying home, having a nice dinner, watching on their big flat screens w/ replays & great sound, and no lines to poop at halftime

  29. Bringing the Charges and rams to LA ruined TV football. We now have to watch these sh-t teams in our market we as before the move we were able to watch other more competitive teams on CBS and Fox since our market was free of NFL team. All the move did was kill our choices.

  30. lets be honest, a team can suck for a couple seasons and still get support but if they continually suck then the penalty is obvious. Going to an NFL game isn’t cheap, and TV pretty well covers games….so teams need to be good for fans to fork out money to give the effort to show support.

  31. unclefresh says:

    September 21, 2017 at 12:36 pm

    You imply that the Raiders have attendance issues by writing “plenty of fans have been turned off by the team’s decision to move to Las Vegas.”. The home opener was a packed house, and season ticket holders we’re getting 2, 3, and 4x face value on the resale market for that game. I know because I tried to get Tix but wasn’t willing to pay that much. Some fans are turned off, most are loyal want to see a game in-person before they leave.
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    Exactly!

    I am a Raider Season Ticket Holder and absolutely I could have sold my ticket for 3x the value. The pre-game was electric, the fans were full of energy and the place was packed. Don’t try and twist a story just to fit them in your narrative.

  32. It’s amazing what’s going on in California. It’s sad what’s happened to San Diego and it’s sad someone didn’t foresee what would happen with the Rams. (Then again, there are some in CA that want to secede from the country, so it’s not that surprising).

    It’s equally amazing that the owners want to renew Goodell’s contract.

  33. September 21, 2017 at 12:34 pm
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    pauldeba says:
    September 21, 2017 at 12:10 pm
    too bad Kaepernick didn’t opt out of his $14 million contract with San Francisco. He could be there for this one
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    Why do you insist on repeatedly posting that falsehood when the truth is better? His contract had a two way option that the team would have exercised had Kaepernick not done it first in his delusional belief that teams would beat a path to his Cuban flag painted door but then you knew that.

  34. As usual, most of you are forgetting the format of TNF games…the objective was to get every team involved, preferably as divisional games, which is what you have tonight. Blame SC & LA for sucking.

  35. Ah, first this year’s ratings are down because of the hurricanes, now it’s teams that have moved to new locations and the game being on a Thursday!

    Attendance has been and will continue to decline rapidly…especially if the NFL implements that “social justice month” request made by 4 players!

  36. People are clearly disgusted at how Kaepernick has been treated and the boycotts are picking up steam in great and smart cities like San Francisco and Los Angeles, unlike those right wing jingoist knuckle-dragging cities in Texas. I look forward to other woke cities like Seattle and Chicago following suit.

  37. NFL dying a slow agonizing death. The Kapernick’s, elliott’s, hardy’s , tom Brady intimidating spineless refs to pick up legitimat flags, jerry Jones, the chargers, the browns, garbage monday and thursday night games. ” turn out the lights the party’s over “

  38. I do not mind a team being bad as long as they are trying to get better. The 49ers look like a team that knows its bad and are trying to get better. I have been transplanted out of California (thank God) but if I was still in the area I would buy sub $20 tickets in a heart beat. I am not sure that the lack of attendance in California is due to the crappy play of the home teams as much as a result of most intelligent people with disposable income have already left California for a better living experience elsewhere.

  39. Jerry Jones knew what he was doing by advocating for TWO Los Angeles teams… he knew those would end up being additional home games for when the Cowboys were in town.

    Why else would he have training camp in California?

    Keep pounding.

  40. Can’t wait to see how Roger on the Boys of Park Ave sell the TV ratings on this one. Likely to fall back on the difficulty of measuring non-traditional viewing devices like tablets and smart phones.

  41. Costs too much. Only the top tier teams can count on the fans, and the LA market has been that way forever. How the NFL thought that LA would support one much less two teams is beyond me. And then we have the snowflake mentality of the players. They should be as interested in playing football and winning games as they are in social justice. I am not going to get in an uproar over an NFL lb who raises he** in Vegas and forces the cops to get tough with him. That is his fault. My daddy told me a long time ago to be respectful and go quietly if I got arrested. That still works.

  42. “the objective was to get every team involved, preferably as divisional games”

    Nope not at all. The objective was to artificially generate additional revenue for the league while placing an awful product on the field to do so.

  43. The Bills have not been to the playoffs in 17 years. The stadium is full every week and a great place to watch a game. The league wanted to move them to Toronto, where most don’t care about NFL football.
    They would have had a similar situation to LA, because although it is only 70 miles away very few Bills fans would have crossed the bridge. Thank God for the Wilson & Pegula families from preventing this debacle from occuring.

  44. RegisHawk says:
    September 21, 2017 at 1:25 pm
    the objective was to get every team involved, preferably as divisional games, which is what you have tonight. Blame SC & LA for sucking.

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    fair argument for this game….make sure to be here and repeat that for the other 10 games that will also suck

  45. too bad Kaepernick didn’t opt out of his $14 million contract with San Francisco. He could be there for this one.

    This isn’t true. Yes he opted out but only after informed the 9ers would cut him.the 9ers gm has confirmed this.
    There are many reasons to heap on Kaep, pig socks, Castro shirt, the kneeling, but bad info doesn’t help.

  46. limakey says:
    September 21, 2017 at 12:05 pm
    The Commissioner did not lie to any Federal judge. In fact, it was at least two players that lied to him.

    1 0 Rate This

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    nope, even worse….

    the london jaguars and beijing bills

  47. This year they are blaming hurricanes, last year the decline was blamed on the Presidential race.

    When will the NFL wake up and realize there are many issues and each one is pissing off its own group of people, and all of those little issues are impacting peoples desire to watch and even moreso attend games.

    Average price for a family of TWO, let alone 4, to attend an NFL game is more than it would cost me to outfit a game room that will then allow me a better viewing experience for every game for many years. Pile on top of that the fact I may not be safe attending the game (skins fans even fighting themselves), being charged just to tailgate, cramped seats with seats so far away I’d be watching a giant TV most of the time anyways, and then throw in all of that there is nothing gained from being there in person.

    In person is something everyone should experience once, to say you did it. After that, it’s more enjoyable to watch at home with friends.

  48. California Football fans have tried to be loyal to the NFL, but they keep getting the carpet yanked from underneath them.

    San Francisco doesn’t have an NFL Team. They have a Team Name, but the 49ers play 45 miles south in Santa Clara. Doesn’t surprise me that 49er Fans don’t want to trek down through some of the worst traffic to watch games. To illustrate that distance matters; 45 miles is a greater distance between Baltimore and Washington DC. Two separate cities, each sustaining their own Teams. My point is., it’s misrepresentative to call this Team ‘San Francisco’ when it’s so clearly not. And it’s misrepresentative to think that fans of one city are completely ok turning their lives upside down to travel to a completely different, not nearby city to watch their ‘Home’ games.

    Oakland Raiders have an NFL Team, but not for long. Why dedicate money to the NFL when they’re moving your Team away from your beloved city to Las Vegas. This Team will struggle in Vegas as well. It’s a very small market outside the Casino world and it’s unlikely to develop a strong local fan base that can afford the games. Corporations will buy tickets and give them away to people who don’t care who wins or loses. It’s painful how predictable this unfortunate outcome will be. RaiderNation is getting royally screwed on this one.

    San Diego used to have a Team and had good support. Now the Chargers have been taken away and awarded to Los Angeles, which is 120-ish miles away. Los Angeles fans haven’t exactly been begging for a NFL Team, but now they have this extra one dropped in their laps. No surprise that Chargers fans don’t want to drive 2+ hours away to catch a Team that’s left them high & dry. Doesn’t surprise me that Los Angeles football fans lack interest when they already had a new Team just provided them.

    The Rams broke a lot of hearts in leaving St. Louis, but at least the have roots back in LA It makes sense for this of all Teams to be there, but it’s child-like to think countless fans will be banging down the door for tickets/games when they never asked for this to begin with. LA has always been talked about as a television market. So who’s surprised that LA football fans are watching games on their televisions? It takes awhile to organically grow a new fan base when you arrive. This isn’t a small market town like Indianapolis where people got blown away that a real NFL Team came to town. This is LA where people have other things to do and the NFL is a blip on their radar.

    So if you want to know why there are empty seats at the California stadiums, it’s because the localized NFL fan-bases has been abused by the NFL for corporate greed. There’s really not much else to it than that. Commish says the Fans come first, but actions speak so much louder than words. Those empty seats are the California NFL fans giving their reply.

  49. $10 beers,$6 hot dogs, $40 to park, $80 tickets, fans getting beat unconscious in the bathrooms…..I can’t imagine why anyone would rather stay home…..

  50. I’ve stopped watching NFL games because of the greedy arrogance of teams and the league. No one wanted the Chargers here in LA. Greedy Spanos ripped the team out of San Diego where they were popular and just moved in here. We don’t like things forced on us. I stopped supporting the Niners because of the incompetent Jed York. He should never have been given the team as a birthday present by mommy and daddy who took the team from her brother, the real owner: Eddie DeBartolo.

    The Raiders have lost my support as well for leaving Oakland AGAIN. I can’t support teams who move. It’s just wrong and ridiculous.

  51. I love the niners, so naturally – will be watching.

    Fans are still upset – and rightfully so – to what ownership has done to this franchise from top to bottom. Stadium included. There is no “home field advantage” in that concrete tanning bed of a stadium. We’re not rotisserie chickens getting blasted by direct sunlight in 90 degree’s for 3 hours. Especially young children and older folks.

    1. Improve the product and people will spend the money and take time out of their day to attend.
    2. Get rid of Thursday night football. It’s a crappy product even with better teams. If you have to have it, at least allow teams who are coming off their bye-week to play. 3 day’s rest and playing an important divisional game is silly.
    3. To the non-niner fans here. We love our team and support them to the fullest. But we’re upset with ownership and what these inflated ego’s have done. Going to a game these days can easily run $500 – $600 per person (ticket, parking, food, beers). I’d rather watch on a comfy couch, MUCH better food and beer for a fraction of the cost.

    For those that watch – bless you.

    Go niners!

  52. Winning does solve a lot but most of us feel we are getting shafted. I have not renewed my Game pass this year because I am fed up having games blacked out because they are shown on local networks and I can’t watch them until 48hrs later. That’s just one reason why I do not pay to watch sports on tv anymore. Just saying.

  53. Goddell is not worried about no attendence in LA.Even when they had a team it was this way.

    He is taking all his time making preparations for the NFL’s Activism Month. Although I don’t think Shkur will make an appearance from Cuba at an NFL game, maybe Kaep will start doing segments on ESPN.

  54. The NFL brain trust are the only ones that haven’t yet realized after the first Rams then Raiders experiment that the people in LA have no interest in the NFL. And the folks in Santa Clara are alot more concerned with the proper preparation of their gluten free tofu sushi than they are with the NFL.

  55. In my opinion, the only game that should be played on a Thursday night is the season opener, for two big reasons.

    1. The reigning SB champ still gets the honor of kicking off the NFL season and the league can pit them against any other legitimate contender on their schedule, so the game can actually compel viewers to tune in.

    2. It completely eliminates the “short week” issues that all teams face leading up to TNF, including the higher injury risks and the lack of time for coaches and players to develop a more holistic game strategy.

    I just don’t think TNF works well anywhere in the middle of the season.

  56. The NFL hit its peak from 2002 – 2014. As much as it pains me to say it because I love the game. No other sports league in this country has deal with the boycotts the NFL does. On one side you have fans boycotting because players take a knee during the national and on the other side you have fans boycotting because they think the NFL is racist because Kaepernick still does not have a job. The NFL has mishandled situation after situation – Ray Rice, Deflategate, Josh Brown and now the Elliott situation among others. The NFL also has little issue with teams moving – seriously 3 teams moving over a 5 year period? It’s almost as if the NFL thinks they’re infallible and fans will still watch and attend no matter what they do.

    Such a shame for such a great sport to have leadership like it currently does.

  57. But they’re not selling tickets in San Francisco – they’re selling them in Santa Clara. For a game against a team that once had a tradition in L.A., which then spent 20 years decomposing before this sudden re-animation attempt.

    Next it will be the Raiders moving to a city that’s never had a team, where they will just be another novelty with no roots.

    I think the NFL is so obsessed with new money that it’s underestimating the value of tradition in the current and future worth of its teams.

  58. The niners are a dumpster fire in the dumpster they play in. Ill be watching Temple vs South Florida. good luck with that jed. No body care about the nfl in LA except for if the team was the raiders. Chargers in LA is a joke, Rams in LA is a joke.

  59. It’s too much money to go to a game. Last year my client had 2 free tickets and he told me just pay for parking. After parking, a water, beer and a hot dog I spend $100 and I had a free ticket. If you take someone you are going to spend $500.00

  60. “The Commissioner did not lie to any Federal judge. In fact, it was at least two players that lied to him.

    2 Federal judges stated Goodell was lying to them. Goodell had it was either 56 or 57 documented lies just in the deflategate farce. The sad tinfoil hat crowd that actually still believes Goodell is tiny. He has had hundreds of documented lies since he came into his job.

  61. RegisHawk says:

    September 21, 2017 at 1:25 pm

    As usual, most of you are forgetting the format of TNF games…the objective was to get every team involved, preferably as divisional games, which is what you have tonight. Blame SC & LA for sucking.

    you’re right….SC and the Rams do suck which makes it that much more of a head scratcher why your beloved Seahawks BARELY beat SC in Seattle last week and those crappy Rams have beaten them 3 out of the last 4.

  62. mackcarrington says:
    September 21, 2017 at 12:13 pm

    xpensivewinos says:
    September 21, 2017 at 12:09 pm
    It’s laughable that the NFL put this game in prime time thinking anyone will care. A test pattern running on PBS is going to have higher ratings…….
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    What time does that test pattern start running?
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    GOOD NEWS: The company that produces Depends has sponsored the test pattern so there will be limited commercial breaks. Enjoy!

  63. I live in Nor Cal, that is way it is in the Bay, if those teams are not contending for playoffs and Super Bowls the fans don’t show up. It’s the front runner band wagon Bay. All those guys scream Empire 3-4 years ago are now screaming Raiders now. Look at the Warriors nobody gave to craps about them for years until they got Curry. Terrible fan base.

  64. If the league goes forward with the “Activism awareness month” then this will be the scenario in EVERY stadium in the league

  65. I’m surprised people don’t get what’s happening here. Fans are fans whether the team wins or loses, just look at how the Redskins continue to fill FedEx Field. This is part of the boycott against the NFL for the way it’s treated Colin Kaepernick. The 49ers were bound to bear the brunt of the boycott because San Francisco is an extremely progressive city that supported Kaepernick.

  66. davew128 says:
    September 21, 2017 at 2:59 pm
    Its a 5 minute Uber ride from the SAN JOSE airport, and you still call yourselves the San Francisco 49ers? Seriously?
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    Hey two teams play in New Jersey and call themselves New York.

  67. ” I live in Nor Cal, that is way it is in the Bay, if those teams are not contending for playoffs and Super Bowls the fans don’t show up. It’s the front runner band wagon Bay. All those guys scream Empire 3-4 years ago are now screaming Raiders now. Look at the Warriors nobody gave to craps about them for years until they got Curry. Terrible fan base.”

    You have no clue what you are talking about. The Warriors have one of the best fanbases in the NBA. The Oakland Coliseum filled up throughout the miserable Cohan years. The 49ers all through the Nolan/Singletary days sold out games and the blackout rule was never enforced.

  68. This will only continue to happen in these brand new stadiums. Once their novelty wears off, they will struggle mightily.

    I for one am going to enjoy the NFL try to spin this disaster they have in California. Couldn’t happen to a better state.

  69. I think it’s the beginning of another economic collapse. Seriously, look at the housing market. Prices are back up to where they were when it collapsed. Attendance is down. Big companies are closing stores. Not to mention the White House. Too many similarities to 10+ years ago.

  70. West Coasters will STILL complain about East Coast bias.
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    Pfft.

    You can have it. All of it.

    I’d move to Canada before I’d live east of the Mississip.

  71. Kind of ironic eh. Oakland has the best attendance at its games of any of the California teams, but they are leaving for Vegas.

  72. West Coasters will STILL complain about East Coast bias.
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    And how many times have we had to listen to you Marys complain about West Coast start times?

    “OMG I had to stay up until midnight to watch the World Series”..

    Boo hoo! Set your DVR and put your pacifier back in!

  73. Goodell will try to blame this on Red Zone, but that’s a positive innovation that most fans LOVE. Instead, because of his pompous, incompetent posturing and autocratic tendancies, GOODELL IS THE PROBLEM HERE. Football is a game. But with Goodell in charge, its Microsoft during the dark, dark Ballmer years. No one cheers for a malfunctioning corporation run by a despotic dictator who never, ever doubts his fallibility. The angry clown act gets tiresome very quickly, and people just turn off. Yet insert an optimistic competent in as NFL Commissioner, willing to doing prudent power sharing with the unioion, and the magic is back, immediately. Can Rozelle be cloned from his cells?

  74. Are not most of the people in the bay area either rioting, protesting, or cuddled in safe space? Not sure how you can fill stadiums with all that going on.

  75. Another thought. Who will be LA’s favorite team in two years? Rams? Nope. Chargers? Nope. The Las Vegas Raiders will be LA’s favorite team when they move there. The Rams will likely survive, but the Chargers in LA is just another of the Spanos family fantastic failures. The NFL should strip the team from the Spanos family, find new ownership, and send them back to San Diego.

  76. Typical California. They are the definition of bandwagon. Bunch of flakes out there on the west coast. Support your team even when they stink. Giants fans fill the seats no matter how good or bad the club is. True fandom.

  77. You can thank Jerry Jones for trying to re-engineer the NFL. Remember when Donald Trump try to re-engineer the USFL and I fell on its face? Not you have another megalomaniac trying to do the same to the NFL. If the NFL falls on its face, blame Jerry Jones!

  78. The NFL should strip the team from the Spanos family, find new ownership, and send them back to San Diego.
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    Exaclty.

    They never should have abandoned that market. Its EASILY 1 of the top 5 desitination cities the League had.

    But only 1 owner had the sense to vote against the move.

  79. Typical California. They are the definition of bandwagon. Bunch of flakes out there on the west coast. Support your team even when they stink. Giants fans fill the seats no matter how good or bad the club is. True fandom.>>

    Paying good money for a bad product means you’re a sucker

    if you get food poisoning at a restaurant do you go back the following weekend?

  80. Typical California. They are the definition of bandwagon. Bunch of flakes out there on the west coast. Support your team even when they stink. Giants fans fill the seats no matter how good or bad the club is. True fandom.

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    Yeah, people out here aren’t suckers. They don’t want to pay a ton of money to go see a crappy game between two terrible teams. They have better things to do with their time and money.

    Apparently “true fandom” is getting ripped off by some billionaire owner to go see a mediocre product. Sounds like a sucker’s game to me.

  81. You can thank Jerry Jones for trying to re-engineer the NFL. Remember when Donald Trump try to re-engineer the USFL and I fell on its face?
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    I remember Donald Trump winning a lawsuit against the NFL, where courts determined they were a monopoly.

    .. but in the middle of a recession nobody cared about multi-millionaires waging war with eachother, so they received no damages.

  82. People think attendence matters. It doesn’t. Only equal split revenue from TV contracts matter. And as long as ppl watch (do not sell me on their are fewer viewers and ppl have stopped watching. Barely a blip) there is ZERO incentive to field a good team. And these owners are bean counters, not sports fans. Want change? Everyone stop watching. And I don’t mean the 10 of you who “claim” you don’t watch for some idiot political reason.

    Anymore, I just watch my team and the Playoffs. And ai’ve been a fan for 55+ years. Now, becaue they don’t care about the quality, just the revenue, I simply don’t care too much.

  83. The Niners are a bad team playing in a terrible stadium at a time where the country has finally reached the point of being overfed on professional football.

    With the Chargers and the Rams, anyone who lives in L.A. or knows people who live in L.A. knew the support for these teams would be tepid at best. I regularly travel to L.A. for business and my best friend has lived there for 20 years. When Kroenke was talking about moving the team to L.A., my friend immediately laughed and said “It will never work. People out here care about the Lakers because when they’re good, attending a game in person is a status symbol. The Dodgers are popular because baseball is played at the same pace that people live their lives out here. Other than those two teams, nobody cares.”

    But perhaps the most important thing he said is that L.A. has no identity as a sports town the way most other big cities do. I travel a lot for work and most big cities in this country have a shared identity based around their sports teams. L.A. doesn’t.

    The NFL saw a market with 20 million people and their eyes turned into dollar signs. And now they’re paying for ripping off two great sports towns in St. Louis and San Diego.

  84. Moving two teams to Los Angeles at almost the same time is the worst decision ever made by any professional sports league. Two teams left in the first place for a reason. Funny how greed seems to trump common sense all too often. Fat pigs get slaughtered, Roger.

  85. The heat is indeed a problem at Levi’s home games, but only for September and 2/3’s of October, give or take. And you can’t put a roof on the place. Solution? Simple. Week 1–road game. Week 2–road game. Week 3–Sunday night home opener. Week 4–home, Thursday night. Week 5—road game. Week 6–bye Week 7–home. That puts you around October 15th, give or take. No Sunday broiler games at home. Now how hard was that?

  86. “I for one am going to enjoy the NFL try to spin this disaster they have in California. Couldn’t happen to a better state.”

    The state didn’t ask for this, the vastly greedy owners did. They only did so when the taxpayers in St Louis and San Diego had the brains to tell the walking bags of greed that own the teams to shove it when they wanted taxpayers to build them billion dollar palaces the billionaires would keep all the profits from.

    Could happen to scummier owners is what I say. Hope the CA fans stay away in droves and humiliate both of these owners.

  87. I think the Raiders were shut out of LA because Kroenke knew the Rams would be second fiddle again and he has MUCH deeper pockets than Mark Davis. If that’s the case then it’s pretty clear how much the NFL regards the fans. I know they think we’re disposable and in endless supply, but the shine is coming off this product pretty fast right now and people are losing interest in the game.

  88. Of coarse they’re losing fans. This is the NFL (No Fun League). Besides moving teams where they are not wanted,with all the rules and regulations the games are not enjoyable as they used to be. Why don’t they put the players in dresses rather than uniforms. They can only be tackled a certain way in todays game. Lets get back to some real football and play the game as it should be. Tackle as needed. Level the guy if need be. Thats what the players get paid the big bucks for. If injury happens, its part of the game. Players past made a fraction of what these prima donnas make and took a beating. Also the refs are also killing the game with bad and biased calls or non calls. There is no reason for a ref to be talking to or explaining anything to a coach during a game. If any coach starts yammering at any ref they should get a 15 yd penalty. No ref to coach or vise versa communication whatsoever. Football is an outside sport, play it outside. Make all stadiums open, with every playing surface natural grass and play some smash mouth football. If todays players could handle it. Its not only the players but also the owners. They don’t want any of those huge contracts on IR. Bottom line: Greed is killing this sport.

  89. …which makes it that much more of a head scratcher why your beloved Seahawks BARELY beat SC in Seattle last week and those crappy Rams have beaten them 3 out of the last 4

    Easy…you’re not worth the effort. The Seahawks did just enough to beat the Whiners, and they have managed to win the NFC West 3 out of the last 4 years…where are the Rams?

  90. After having watched my Hawks’ 2017 attempts at futility, I might watch this game for one reason: To hope these two division rivals kick the crap out of each other. That could be entertaining and serve the greater good down the road.

  91. NFL dying a slow agonizing death. The Kapernick’s, elliott’s, hardy’s , tom Brady intimidating spineless refs to pick up legitimat flags, jerry Jones, the chargers, the browns, garbage monday and thursday night games. ” turn out the lights the party’s over “
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    I don’t know if it isn’t already happening or not, but throw in the lawsuits all these ex players will be filing for brain damage and the NFL is going to go way down even further.

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