Lions’ Akeem Spence: My dad lost work because of my anthem protest

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Akeem Spence was one of a handful of Lions players who knelt during the national anthem on Sunday, and he says that has been held against his father.

Spence wrote on Twitter today that his father was denied a job by someone who saw Spence’s protest and wanted to make a statement of his own.

“Got some awful news from my father,” Spence wrote, “a contractor deny giving him a job on doing a house because of my peaceful protest.”

Many people have threatened to boycott the NFL because of players’ protests during the anthem, but this is the first time we’ve heard of someone boycotting an NFL player’s family member. Spence’s protest was his own decision, but someone has decided to take it out on his dad.

87 responses to “Lions’ Akeem Spence: My dad lost work because of my anthem protest

  1. this is how it starts. theyre allowed to make their own decisions, but anyone that makes a choice based on theirs, becomes the enemy. like I said before; those who choose to stand will become villified

  2. LakefrontLegend says:
    September 28, 2017 at 2:20 pm
    Nothing scares America like black men having/voicing/exercising their opinions. It’s uncanny.
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    More like people who are uneducated athletes and are always in trouble with the law. But yet it’s never their fault. Yes that is a problem.

  3. This country was founded upon colonization. Which led to protests. Which led to war (which led to expansionism).

    You don’t think there was just a tad bit of collateral damage? Every step of the way, in every direction.

  4. Based on this country’s principles Akeem can protest…that’s his right.Contractors can hire whoever they want…that’s their right. Make sense Akeem?

  5. LakefrontLegend says:
    September 28, 2017 at 2:20 pm
    Nothing scares America like black men having/voicing/exercising their opinions. It’s uncanny.

    So scared that this America 2x voted in a black man for President. I don’t buy what you’re selling.

  6. If I walk into a Walmart and an employee is wearing a t-shirt that offends me IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER, I can turn around and walk out, never to return. And if that person’s son or spouse or relative is known to me, I don’t have to do any business with him or her either. It is called liberty. MLK demonstrated versus genuine evil and went to jail. He knew the price of his stand. These guys want to pay nothing for their gestures. This is not how it works, people.

  7. dude signed a 3 year deal worth 10.5 million and his pops is working?
    Pretty sure it’s because he wants to, I doubt pops is going to starve

  8. I am against the Virtue Signaling “protests” by the kneeling players and think they are a bunch of entitled, arrogant, self important athletes…with that said his father has noting to do with it… We have the right to criticize, boycott etc.. but there is a line where you become just as bad as the group you are opposed to and if this is true, that guy crossed it.

  9. Newton’s 3rd Law, for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Welcome to reality where all of us can affect/impact those around us by actions.

  10. Who knows if this is even true, but if it is then HEY – that’s life, man. Actions have consequences and even though you have the right to protest, don’t be surprised at the reaction of others.

  11. patriotmaleorgy says:
    September 28, 2017 at 2:29 pm
    LakefrontLegend says:
    September 28, 2017 at 2:20 pm
    Nothing scares America like black men having/voicing/exercising their opinions. It’s uncanny.
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    More like people who are uneducated athletes and are always in trouble with the law. But yet it’s never their fault. Yes that is a problem.

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    Wow, this is one of the most ignorant statements I’ve seen in a long time. Lumping all football players in as uneducated athletes that are always in trouble with the law? Sure, there are some bad apples and some uneducated players, but there are many more who are very smart, never in trouble with the law, and use their standing as a professional athlete to help others who are in need. Hopefully, you’re not a cop, because you’re the type of person who would shoot an unarmed black man because you’re sure he’s guilty of something.

  12. Standing for the national anthem without distractions is an American social norm/more. Ergo, it is frowned upon by society to protest the national anthem. In those two minutes, it’s our time and responsibility to show appreciation, respect and patriotism.
    There are many other examples of social norm, that do not violate any laws, but are socially unacceptable, such as: Yelling bomb on a plane, dating a close friends ex or laughing during a funeral.
    People like to say that protest by nature make people uncomfortable but should be accepted. That Rosa Parks sat, and MLK marched. However, those “protests” were widely accepted by our society and brought forth change. I’m sure some were displeased, but society as a whole found acceptance, and change. Contrast to current time and subject. Protesting during the national anthem is widely rebuked by society, so much that the subjects intention is completely missed.
    Society is saying NO, and to all the left biased media outlets, it is not OK for 80% of any population to ignore their beliefs being trampled for sake of the 20%.

  13. Welcome to the tyranny of Trump….

    Thanks for the info. I had no idea Trump was interviewing Mr Spence for a job…

  14. I have a difficult time believing the two (Akeem kneeling and his father losing work) are in fact related. Even so, have any laws been broken? I know of a Silicon Valley CEO who was fired for donating money to a religious charity that was deemed to be anti-gay, not by the charity itself but by the gay rights groups who claimed it so despite the lack of any evidence.

    So cry me a river, try standing next time and hopefully your father is working next week.

  15. when you inject yourself into a political environment, people take sides. regardless of intent, when you disrespect the flag,country and/or anthem it is offensive to millions of americans.

  16. @ipeefreelyagain says:

    Standing for the national anthem without distractions is an American social norm/more. Ergo, it is frowned upon by society to protest the national anthem. In those two minutes, it’s our time and responsibility to show appreciation, respect and patriotism.
    There are many other examples of social norm, that do not violate any laws, but are socially unacceptable, such as: Yelling bomb on a plane, dating a close friends ex or laughing during a funeral.
    People like to say that protest by nature make people uncomfortable but should be accepted. That Rosa Parks sat, and MLK marched. However, those “protests” were widely accepted by our society and brought forth change. I’m sure some were displeased, but society as a whole found acceptance, and change. Contrast to current time and subject. Protesting during the national anthem is widely rebuked by society, so much that the subjects intention is completely missed.
    Society is saying NO, and to all the left biased media outlets, it is not OK for 80% of any population to ignore their beliefs being trampled for sake of the 20%.
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    We have a winner…protests by Rosa Parks and MLK were NOT WIDELY accepted. At least judging by the news footage of all the angry mobs of white people shouting racial slurs, policeman using dogs and fire hoses on women and children shows a much different “acceptance” than what you’re saying. Laws had to be passed because the world saw White America for what it truly was and still is trying to be.

  17. Billsthickmthin, the person protested against Akeems protest by giving the work to a party that wasnt affiliated with anthem protesting. How can you defend 1 person’s protest but not another?

  18. It’s screwed up. But anybody that is willing to go after a person’s father because they don’t like that individuals silent protest is somebody you probably don’t want to do Contracting work in the first place.

  19. @maiphatdong says:

    dude signed a 3 year deal worth 10.5 million and his pops is working?
    Pretty sure it’s because he wants to, I doubt pops is going to starve
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    It’s obvious you no nothing about big money or NFL contracts. He will pay more in taxes for those 3 years than you will pay in your working life. Nothing like some facts…the only thing you have correct is he signed a 3 year deal. It was not $10 million. It was $9,000,000 contract, including a $2,250,000 signing bonus, $3,500,000 guaranteed. Of the $9 million, he’s guaranteed $5,750,000 (signing bonus + guaranteed $$). So yes, his pops is still working. Akeem’s career and $$ could be over by 2019 before the age of 30.

  20. People on both sides are getting a little ridiculous. Trump isn’t bringing tyranny and the players aren’t being unpatriotic. Yeesh. The NFL sure does produce a lot of blowhards with their fanbases. Chill out and let the dudes protest police violence. If it upsets you then tune-out. AT the same time all of the people boo-hooing about Trump, just tune out and let him tweet. Everyone is such a freaking masochist with searching for things to be upset about. Double Yeesh.

  21. Sort of like when police officers are refused service at restaurants or are simply trying get a cup a coffee? Bet he, and other NFL Employees, had no problem with that.

  22. Kap will go down in history in the Rosa Parks category. Trump will be in the Nixon category. Enjoy it while you can hooligans.

  23. As Fr. Finian said EVERY day, “Actions have consequences!” And sometimes, OTHERS have to face consequences for OUR actions. As I have said and will continue to say, this was an ill conceived protest by the players.

  24. If this is true and his father losing his job is connected to Spence kneeling, it is a perfect example of just because it is his first amendment right to protest, it doesn’t mean there aren’t consequences.

  25. Unfortunately, this is a lesson in free speech for both sides. By the end of the football season, I don’t see any winners coming out of this mess.

  26. Wow, that is a terrible deal. He will make “only” $5.57 million before he is 30. Will he have to move into his parents’ basement then? Sign up for food stamps? Go to work at Walmart?

  27. Free market at work. Don’t like consequences? Act like 95% of Americans that have to work for a living, and watch what you say at work…If most Americans offend others at work, they no longer have work…

  28. This case is a prime example why people should think through their actions before taking them. Actions have consequences. Sometime consequences that you do not anticipate but should be considered before taking an action. Impact on his family is a consequence that he should have considered. The problem with the whole chain of events dating back to original protest is very few considered the consequences. Even now, players and owners are not fully considering a “black swan” event where people get so turned off they walk away, and thoset golden gooses takes their eggs with them. ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!

  29. As a foreigner I’m having problem separating those that are angry because of the protesters from those who are angry because the protesters are black. Since these same people are likely among those who had no trouble booing during the Anthem, I doubt this has much to do with the anthem/flag either.

    Perhaps it’s a way for people who harbor racist feelings to express them without having to acknowledge their own racism?

  30. I learned at a very young age that life decisions – and their consequences – are a chess game. Better people think three or four moves ahead.

  31. Funny how many are against free speech these days. In North Korea, they make you stand for the anthem. Americans can stand, sit, kneel or dance a jig. That’s called Freedom. Can’t believe how many want to see that go away.

  32. I wish he would name the contractor. I would gladly boycott anyone who punishes people for protesting police brutality. Just like I will boycott the NFL if they punish protesting players.

  33. cabosan1978 says:
    September 28, 2017 at 2:18 pm
    What else would he expect to happen when he did not stand for the country’s national anthem? I don’t get why anyone is shocked at these consequences?
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    Because some human beings have an IQ over room temp and aren’t satirical characters from “Team America: World Police”

  34. This is only over free speech.

    I wonder how many of you have relatives who committed crimes and are in jail. How would you feel if you were fired or denied work because a relative committed a crime you had nothing to do with? That’s essentially what’s being done to Akeem’s Dad.

    This is petty and small minded. Its certainly the employer’s right to do so, but it doesn’t make it correct. Shame on them.

  35. In many communist countries people’s families were punished if an athlete, musician or performer tried to defect or otherwise speak out against communism.

    How does that feel all you right wing, conservative flag wavers? You’re cheering on someone who is doing exactly what the communists did in a similar situation.

  36. Your anthem protest doesn’t get a safe area. This is just the start of the consequences for your actions. 1st amendment rights are given to all, not just dirt balls who protest our flag and anthem.

  37. My business which selling team sports merchandise has gone from +10% for the week leading into the season through Saturday 9/23. Since Sunday my business is down -24%.

    Not sure how this activity is good for the economy as if this continues I for one will be out of work as well.

    I think it will do two things in addition. Strengthen relationships that were already strong and had no issues of race or creed, a coming together if you will. But sadly it will also strength hatred and cause racial divide in those who already have the underlying feelings.

    What is lost on all this is that these are the most peaceful of protests, no violence and actually could be very effective since it has accelerated conversations. These are people who are doing this for others not themselves. Just like these players are the one donating their time and money for sick kids, underprivileged and other charitable causes.

    SAD and petty but that is what the American People elected to lead us. We are all experiencing history and not in a good way.

  38. Or maybe they chose someone else for a myriad of other reasons like being more skilled/experienced, less expensive, more specialized, etcetcetc. No, it couldn’t be that. It’s totally 100% no doubt because of the protest.

  39. thunderstruck24 says:
    September 28, 2017 at 4:07 pm

    What is lost on all this is that these are the most peaceful of protests, no violence and actually could be very effective since it has accelerated conversations. These are people who are doing this for others not themselves. Just like these players are the one donating their time and money for sick kids, underprivileged and other charitable causes.
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    Just because the protests are “peaceful” does not make them “respectful” – and that’s the problem. If I came over to your house and took a dump on our law, that’s peaceful – but it’s not respectful either.

    Figure out the difference.

  40. Beginning tonight, when the anthem is played…post video of you standing in your living room or wherever you’re watching the game. Probably won’t be very many videos posted.

  41. This loser contractor you know is just bragging to anyone that will listen that he pulled this stunt. In 25 years he’ll be walking from barstool to barstool trying to tell just one more person what he did.

    I bet nobody can trump this loser…… oh, wait……

  42. While attending the Raider Washington game, i was wearing Raider shirt and boy did I get it from the fans about the Raider protest. I have been attending games since 1995 in Oakland but the vitrioul reaction from redskins fans directed about the protest was intense, load and profane. They directed their displeasure at me and my family and the team. having spent the week in Washington, reading about our histroy of protest and fight for our right i was seriously conflicted. We are very observant of the flag protocols and observance in my family. To say the least I did not like to be put in that situation but fully understand the reasons and individual rights the NFL is allowing to be voiced.

  43. harrisonhits2 says:

    September 28, 2017 at 4:03 pm

    In many communist countries people’s families were punished if an athlete, musician or performer tried to defect or otherwise speak out against communism.

    How does that feel all you right wing, conservative flag wavers? You’re cheering on someone who is doing exactly what the communists did in a similar situation.

    Comparing his dad not getting a job from a contractor to communism is ignorance in the highest form possible.

  44. You know what is funny about the people crying about this guy’s family suffering consequences from his actions, saying that it is communism or comparing it to dictatorial countries like North Korea……..

    These same people probably cheered or even boycotted along with the people that were boycotting any stores that were selling Ivanka Trump’s brand clothes, and they probably cheered when some stores decided not to sell her line of clothing. At the very least, these people weren’t up in arms crying about how a family member is suffering consequences of another family members actions.

    Go figure.

  45. the contractor has every right not to hire someone, but this seems pretty petty. The man’s son was exercising his FIRST AMENDMENT right to protest. America is built on the Constitution and is made great by what the constitution stands for. I believe in the Constitution and hope that that this administration starts to exhibit the same respect for it that it does for the flag.

  46. Good for your Dad, that person wasn’t worth working for anyway. They are closed minded to equal protection under the law and freedom of speech for everyone. It’s not like the player was voicing hate, hurt someone or did something illegal. What hypocrites many of you are. If your family member voiced their opinion about unfair treatment to other people how different many of you would feel.

  47. I hire people everyday and I wouldn’t touch him, that’s my right.

    He has a right to protest just like his son though.

  48. Nobody here knows what this guy wasn’t given the contract, and until the guy that didn’t give him the job tells anybody then nobody knows. Getting a contract to do a job had to do with many things, including quoted price and time it takes to previous work done, to getting along with other contractors etc. I doubt the guy that didn’t give him a job even knew who he was related to unless his dad tried to use that to gain a leg up to start with.

  49. Love the reactions, just assume that it’s a hit job…for all we know he was not the lowest bidder or just plain wasn’t the best choice. My question is how did the hiring guy know that the dude’s son was a back-up in the NFL? I know if I heard teh name Spence, I wouldn’t assume it was a bidding contractor’s Son, LOL!! Unless…Dad was trying to use his Son’s position as leverage to get the job in the first place.

  50. Akeem Spence is from Florida. He played for the Lions.

    Did this contractor even know that Akeem’s dad had a son in the NFL – and if so – did he know that Akeem knelt during the anthem?

    Not saying that the story isn’t true. But it sure sounds suspicious to me.

    Now is his dad was bragging about how his son was one of the protesters, and that is why the contractor decided to go with another subcontractor because of this, I admit that I would have probably made the same decision to go with someone else.

    As an employer, I’m not hiring people that believe protesting on company time is ok.

  51. What is the problem? Libs love it when someone they deem to be ‘racist’ with no proof loses work. Other people can do the same you know? It works both ways.

    Why all the crying?

    I think what these protestors truly hate is freedom / free speech, not racism.

    They want THEIR views expressed but no one else’s.

    These tough, strong football players sure act like crybabies.

  52. markg5wagon says:

    September 28, 2017 at 2:38 pm

    White priviledge. Someone just wanting to have supremacy over another human so he used what little power he had to knock a man down a step.

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    Who said the contractor was white? Now who is making assumptions?

  53. Of course, when the house collapses because it wasn’t build up to spec, that will be someone else’s fault too.

  54. More like people who are uneducated athletes and are always in trouble with the law. But yet it’s never their fault. Yes that is a problem.

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    Wow, this is one of the most ignorant statements I’ve seen in a long time. Lumping all football players in as uneducated athletes that are always in trouble with the law? Sure, there are some bad apples and some uneducated players, but there are many more who are very smart, never in trouble with the law, and use their standing as a professional athlete to help others who are in need. Hopefully, you’re not a cop, because you’re the type of person who would shoot an unarmed black man because you’re sure he’s guilty of something.
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    So, while keeping that statement in it’s entirety, I’m gonna take the liberty of substituting just a few words here:

    Wow, this is one of the most ignorant statements I’ve seen in a long time. Lumping all (POLICE OFFICERS) in as uneducated (RACISTS) that are always in (VIOLATING HUMAN RIGHTS) with the law?

    Sure, there are some bad (COPS) and some uneducated players, but there are many more who are very smart, (DO A THANKLEES JOB VERY WELL), never in (VIOLATING) the law, and use their standing as a professional (POLICE OFFICER) to help others who are in need.

    Hopefully, you’re not a (BAD) cop, because you’re the type of person who (WHILE IN THE VAST MINORITY) would shoot an unarmed black man because you’re sure he’s guilty of something.

    See how that works??

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