NFL on latest Trump remarks: “They’re not accurate. They’re not factual.”

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Reeling from an ongoing assault over the national anthem, the NFL is trying to make people understand that the situation has become a political issue. NFL spokesman Joe Lockhart addressed that position during a Thursday media briefing, accusing “political forces” of “distorting the views” of the league, the owners, and its players.

As to the specific allegation from President Trump that owners are “afraid” of players and the idea that owners reached out to political leaders to spark this issue, Lockhart said, “They’re not accurate. They’re not factual. But I’m not going to get in the business of fact-checking, so I’ll leave it there.”

Lockhart added that the league’s owners are “united in a sense that the attacks on the game, on the NFL, on the players were unfair and unfounded,” and that owners realize the issues “are being obscured and distorted by people with political agendas.”

He’s right, and there’s no reason to think the attacks will be ending soon. Because the attacks have successfully gathered public and media attention, and they’ve successfully mobilized a base of individuals who hadn’t reacted nearly as strongly to an issue that had been hiding in plain sight for more than a year.

118 responses to “NFL on latest Trump remarks: “They’re not accurate. They’re not factual.”

  1. This is going to be funny. The folks that say Trump is a liar and also say that the league lies now have a dilemma.

  2. Donald Trump is by far the least popular president in my lifetime. He’s already told more lies than all other presidents combined. I don’t think NFL owners and players are going to be influenced by anything he says. There are a lot of other countries out there begging the NFL to export NFL games to their country. Trump bragged on the campaign trail about how much he liked uneducated voters. Lol. Now you see why. They’re easier to pick-pocket.

  3. week 3 of the NFL, ratings down 11 percent from last year which were down over ten percent from the year before, last year they told us it was because of the election. direct TV in an unprecedented move is giving refunds on the NFL package. thousands of fans burning their NFL merchandise and vowing to never go to a game. fans booing in many stadiums across the country,

    sounds like the owners have a real good grasp on what is factual, looking forward to your next tv contract negotiations, then you can tell us how the owners offered a 600 million to one billion dollar reduction because of how strong their product is

    fire goodell, remove politics from the game, and treat your employees like every other business in america and dont allow them to offend your customers while being paid

    yes people free speech isnt protected while you are working, imagine a sales clerk offending customers under the guise of free speech and see how long that person keeps their job

  4. Not wrong or distorted at all………….pretty much dead on balls accurate………..But then again, the NFL has never been a beacon of truth honesty and fairness ! #Thanks Rog !!!

  5. docsmith54 says:
    September 28, 2017 at 11:24 am
    Since when does Lockhart speak for the owners?

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    Since they hired him. Goodell works for the owners too. Everyone in the NFL org does.

  6. “Unfair”? “He’s right”? What the???

    The league decided to make this an issue when they seem to fine players for virtually every issue under the sun, but when it comes to the flag and anthem, they support and celebrate disrespecting the action. The league and the players made this an issue – LIVE WITH IT!

    Athletes can protest all they want, do it during some other time than singing the national anthem.

  7. All this because Kaep could not beat out Blaine Gabbert….

    You have to possess a simple mind to believe that…..and you have proven that again and again on here. The problem in this country is real, but the method used to bring it to the forefront is not the best choice.

  8. Lockhart added that the league’s owners are “united in a sense that the attacks on the game, on the NFL, on the players were unfair and unfounded,” and that owners realize the issues “are being obscured and distorted by people with political agendas.”………………

    Point of order…Who has the political agenda? And as far as fear goes….The owners are petrified…of a walk if the NFL activists are not coddled…The questions is…how far will the bottom line go in supporting a radical agenda when the 10 percent decline in ratings turns to 15 and 20 percent….

  9. nhpats says:
    September 28, 2017 at 11:23 am

    All this because Kaep could not beat out Blaine Gabbert….
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    The end of the world has started….I agree with a Patriots fan!!!!

    The absolute best analysis I have seen of this issue.

  10. Creeping mis-management by the NFL. They have an NFL trade-mark (brand) they won’t protect and the “kneeling players” are stomping all over it. The fans, on which the business is based are being betrayed as well. Sadly, the NFL believes the fans will do anything and pay any amount the NFL wants. The NFL has let the game become too sterile, too expensive e.g.(Charger parking is $100, tickets $250, consessions off the charts) and they’re betraying decades long loyal fans by allowing teams to relocate. Again, e.g. the Charger move is clearly unraveling. How does the San Antonio Bills sound to you?

  11. Y’all want your football back right, and that sacred respect for the flag? Why not ask the people you call the true leaders of your community, cops, to have their union leaders sit down and discuss wholesale reforms which hold the bad cops accountable? Because if not, what you are saying is “its totally okay if people are killed by cops who get away with it. Just don’t interrupt what matters to me”

  12. All of the positive displays the NFL has made toward service men and our country over the years is simply forgotten when a fake patriot .. white nationalist in the white house calls for his minions to show their disapproval. Don’t they know they are being played by a draft dodging, russian loving, hypocrite?

  13. JustJim says:
    September 28, 2017 at 11:31 am
    ………..But then again, the NFL has never been a beacon of truth honesty and fairness !…
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    Compared to Donald Trump, Goodell is a beacon of truth, honesty and fairness.

  14. week 3 of the NFL, ratings down 11 percent from last year which were down over ten percent from the year before

    ____________
    you forgot to tell the fun story of course Ratings are down for everything, except for cable news.
    and also

    Overnight ratings for National NFL games on CBS for Week 3:

    2014 — 16.9 (Super Bowl rematch)
    2015 — 14.1
    2016 — 13.9
    2017 — 13.8

  15. All this because Kaep could not beat out Blaine Gabbert….great comment! You left out he “opted” out of a 16.5 million contract for 2017…16.5 mill…obviously, not a businessman…

  16. “They’re not accurate. They’re not factual. But I’m not going to get in the business of fact-checking, so I’ll leave it there.”

    LOOOOOL

    “I’m fact checking, but I’m not going to fact check.”

  17. All this because Kaep could not beat out Blaine Gabbert…

    deplorables and fake news… when both were healthy who started?

  18. Since when does Lockhart speak for the owners?
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    That’s quite literally his job. If/when he’s out of tune with owners, they can easily replace or correct him.

  19. beerbaron says:
    September 28, 2017 at 11:32 am
    If you hate Colin Kaepernick now, you would have hated Martin Luther King, Jr. in the ’60s.

    ========================

    I don’t recall MLK wearing socks with pigs dressed as cops.
    I don’t recall MLK celebrating Fidel Castro.

  20. ….but these are “alternative facts.” They’re just as good…………..only, you know, made up to fit a narrative that really doesn’t exist.

  21. You allowed your product to become a political battleground, this is on you. The league could’ve worked with the players to find another platform, another venue instead of whizzing all over the country we love. If that means cutting out all the forced (and paid) patriotism, fine.

    Make Football Football Again

  22. What makes me laugh is that there is a girl I am friends with on Facebook that has been screaming about Trump every day for a year and on the last week has tweeted all kinds of support for the players and that they should not be bullied by Trump. This is the same person who went on a rant last Super Bowl Sunday complaining about how many people let their lives to be ruled by football and she wanted everybody to know that she was going to a play during the Super Bowl and she was not watching that crappy violent game that gives everybody brain damage. This week, the NFL took her side. When the protests are no longer run-of-the-mill anti-Trump protests, she won’t care anymore. And theNFL will have alienated a lot of people like me who have spent 40 years watching football. I will never stop watching Eagles games let’s not kid anybody but they are sapping my desire to care about the rest of the league which is the difference between the NFL and the other leagues. The NFL needs to choose more wisely.

  23. I don’t know why people are so offended by trumps comments… The same exact things are being said around every water cooler in America. Trump is the one who is in touch. The NFL and players are way out of touch.

  24. “This is going to be funny. The folks that say Trump is a liar and also say that the league lies now have a dilemma.”

    Both of them do lie, there’s no dilemma at all. Doesn’t have to be one or the other.

  25. alltee, get your facts straight before posting.
    The Cowboys versus Cardinals game posted the highest Monday Night Football ratings in 3 years.
    If you are standing by your president, then get use to his many errors in judgement.

  26. nbptma says:

    September 28, 2017 at 11:33 am

    “Unfair”? “He’s right”? What the???

    The league decided to make this an issue when they seem to fine players for virtually every issue under the sun, but when it comes to the flag and anthem, they support and celebrate disrespecting the action. The league and the players made this an issue – LIVE WITH IT!

    Athletes can protest all they want, do it during some other time than singing the national anthem.
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    But Booing and giving the middle finger to the players is perfectly acceptable during the National Anthem. Instead of placing your hand over your heart and quietly respecting the flag.
    Got it!

  27. Make no mistake about it, this was a massive mistake by the NFL and they are just starting to pay for it.

    They bent over for the vocal minority, massive mistake.

  28. The CNNFL’s comment’s are hilarious to me. They’re “not going to get in the business of fact checking”. Yeah, why start now.

    The attacks on the game and the players are “unfair and unfounded”. Right, just like the NFL Owners universal boycott of Colin Kaepernick over the exact thing the fans are up in arms about.

    The NFL higher-ups should just stay quiet.

  29. beerbaron says:
    September 28, 2017 at 11:32 am
    If you hate Colin Kaepernick now, you would have hated Martin Luther King, Jr. in the ’60s.
    ________________________________
    Martin Luther King, Jr. actually had something to protest.

  30. Canadian here: When Dwyane Wade took free throws during the Canadian national anthem I was livid with him. He wasn’t protesting equality or anything..he just couldn’t be bothered to show proper respect.

    During dinner you wait for the server to be served.
    During a national anthem you take your hat off and stand.

  31. Leave the teams in the locker room until after the anthem like they used to. Then the players can kneel all they want. Oh course then they won’t do it though because they want the division and social unrest.

  32. NFL spokesman, you make me laugh. The NFL and it’s player has made it a political,And divided. You better Open your ears and eyes. Before it’s to late. We the fans are not going to tolerate it much longer. Owners better get their players under control.

  33. Donald Trump should be selling bridges. He seems to have a few buyers. He’s trying to create a distraction while he’s getting crunched on health care, and his tax plan to feed the rich and starve the middle class is about to fail too. He can’t stand the fact that he’s losing on everything he’s tried. He always goes back to old reliable. The race card. He’s out of every other option. Oh by the way, the NFL set a new record last year for revenue. Remember? That was the year Colin Kaepernick scared away all the viewers. Lol. Yeah, the owners are really hurting.

  34. Good Lord, Trump is toying with the NFL right now, and the NFL doesn’t have the sense to realize it.

    I long for the days of Pete Rozelle, who would have in no uncertain terms told the players to stand for the anthem. The NFL is trying to make this issue about Trump, and it is not. This issue is about players disrespecting the flag of the nation that has given them the opportunity to become part of top 1% of wage earners. Middle class Americans who pay their salaries through ticket purchases, merchandise purchases, etc, expect these players to appreciate that, and spend their time off working to promote their pet causes.

    Fans enjoy football, but we do not worship the players or give their political opinions any greater credence than we would that of a total stranger. The NFL is going to rue the day it went down this path, and all because Roger Goodell has completely lost touch with the fans.

  35. Accuracy is not something Trump cares about. Only ratings, and what seems to be required or useful at the moment to achieve his objective.

    At this point I don’t think he even understands what “accuracy” means.

  36. So now this weekend the whole crowd has to kneel to the flag sponsored by nike and ford while the players wear pink? Uh…ok this is what normal is and the league is not going to hell. See you at the color-rush thursday ratings bonanza.

  37. If Trump was truly as patriotic as he says he is, perhaps he would have served during Viet Nam instead of dodging the draft five times. Perhaps he would also have refrained from mocking our POWs for “getting captured”.

  38. “I long for the days of Pete Rozelle, who would have in no uncertain terms told the players to stand for the anthem. The NFL is trying to make this issue about Trump, and it is not. This issue is about players disrespecting the flag of the nation that has given them the opportunity to become part of top 1% of wage earners. Middle class Americans who pay their salaries through ticket purchases, merchandise purchases, etc, expect these players to appreciate that, and spend their time off working to promote their pet causes.”

    You do realize that Goodell is the reason we have the flag display anyways right? Up until 2009 this wasn’t standard fare? Also, considering everyone also pays for cops (and fun fact, its not a choice the way watching a football game is), maybe, just maybe, we should be asking cops to reform practices which hold them totally unaccountable? You’d rather boycott NFL players who are standing for poor people who look like them, than stand up to the 1-3% of police officers who aren’t looking out for their communities?

  39. beerbaron says:
    September 28, 2017 at 11:32 am
    If you hate Colin Kaepernick now, you would have hated Martin Luther King, Jr. in the ’60s.

    ___________________________________________________________________________________________

    Did you just compare Kap to MLK Jr.?!?! LOL

  40. viva la Trump. The only President who has balls to call it as it is without any PC BS.

    I prefer Presidents to be more focused on policy details and weeding out waste. We don’t need the leader of the free world dishing “hot takes” about entertainers making worthless gestures. Focus on your agenda and stop getting distracted by middle school fights.

  41. Everyone says President Trump has “thin skin” and then they lose their minds about anything he says. I don’t know who is crazier at this point.

  42. To paraphrase Heath Ledger’s Joker, “Nobody panics when things go according to norm, even if the norm is horrifying. If I tell people 500+ people have been shot to death in Chicago alone so far this year, nobody panics. Because it’s all as expected. But when I say kneeling NFL players disrespect the flag and the owners allow it everybody loses their minds!”

    Wake up folks, everybody’s getting played.

  43. What a total waste of energy. Here is an exhaustive list of how this manufactured debate over kneeling and the national anthem has improved Americans’ lives:

  44. I wonder how many of you all put your food and beer down, stand up and take your hat off during the anthem when you’re out watching the game at the bar? Because ever since I’ve been watching any type of sport, I haven’t seen a single person do it ever.

  45. How ironic, the NFL talking about “accurate” and “factual”. Hire full time refs and do away with your third world quasi judiciary system and an I won’t roll my eyes.

  46. “Fans enjoy football, but we do not worship the players or give their political opinions any greater credence than we would that of a total stranger. The NFL is going to rue the day it went down this path, and all because Roger Goodell has completely lost touch with the fans.”

    You don’t think fans worship players? Go to a grade school or junior high or high school and check out what they are wearing and talking about. These players ARE their role models and they will grow up with views that can relate to their role models. This is where progress comes from. White kids learn values from outside of the home as well and I would guess this worries a lot of white parents who are against social equality.

  47. Nofoolnodrool says:
    September 28, 2017 at 11:34 am
    All this because Kaep could not beat out Blaine Gabbert….

    You have to possess a simple mind to believe that…..and you have proven that again and again on here. The problem in this country is real, but the method used to bring it to the forefront is not the best choice.

    ———–
    If you believe Kaep’s original intent was to protest anything you are mistaken. Kaep was pouting….plain and simple. And he wasn’t kneeling he was sitting. Only when called on it did he cococt his “story”…

  48. These comments from Joe Lockhart. This Joe Lockhart:

    He is best known for being the White House Press Secretary from October 5, 1998 to September 29, 2000, during the administration of U.S. President Bill Clinton. He worked as press secretary for several Democratic politicians, including Walter Mondale, Paul Simon, and Michael Dukakis; he was an advisor to John Kerry during his 2004 presidential campaign.

    The NFL is quietly becoming a political organization. The fans just want football.

  49. isitheshoes says:
    September 28, 2017 at 12:29 pm
    I wonder how many of you all put your food and beer down, stand up and take your hat off during the anthem when you’re out watching the game at the bar? Because ever since I’ve been watching any type of sport, I haven’t seen a single person do it ever.
    __________________________________________________________

    That is the lamest of all arguments. Ever since I’ve been watching sports I have never once seen the colors being physically presented at a bar or in my living room for that matter.

  50. Dear Mr. Trump;

    Please refrain from sticking your nose into
    business, especially one you know nothing
    about having ruined the USFL. You are more
    than likely suffering from sour grapes.

    Please attempt to administer to governmental
    affairs, something else you know little or nothing
    about.

    Ugh

  51. I wish all you “tough guys” that are threatening to “leave the NFL forever” would actually do it. I’m sick of your whining. Of course, as the players are proving, it takes a lot more stones to actually DO something than to just cry about it on the Internet.

    Get out there! Mobilize! Counter protest! Just stop crying, already.

  52. ajames35 says:
    September 28, 2017 at 12:21 pm
    viva la Trump. The only President who has balls to call it as it is without any PC BS.

    ———–

    This right here is Trump’s base. Nothing anyone says or does about Trump will change their minds. It’s dogmatism at its worst. It will be interesting to see what happens in 2020 (assuming Trump is not in jail). Our country could potentially be in serious distress.

  53. Can President Trump get to fire Goodell? I think that event should be on PPV!

    I don’t know what I’d prefer… Apprentice style “You’re fired”? Or Vince McMahon style? Hmm. Tough choice! 🙂

  54. Per Historian Milo Quaife;

    From early congressional debates, for instance, it is quite clear that the only reason the founders adopted a national flag was for the practical reason that the navy needed one for identification when sailing into foreign ports. The bill providing for the establishment of the flag consisted of a single sentence, just twenty-nine words long. The first verse of the Star-Spangled Banner is longer (fifty-two words). When in 1794 someone introduced a bill to add two stars to the flag to take into account the admission into the union of Vermont and Kentucky, many members objected that the matter wasn’t worthy of their attention. It is “a trifling business,” said one, “which ought not to engross the attention of the House, when it was their ‘duty to discuss matters of infinitely greater importance.” The Vermont representative agreed. In the end, says Quaife, the members approved the bill “as the quickest way of terminating” debate about it.

  55. I read some of these comments and it is clear that one ideology wants to dictate their morality on owners, players and fans.

    We went a year where one young man, Colin Kaepernick, peacefully protested what he saw as excessive violence against young black males by a segment of law enforcement. He didn’t get in anyone’s face. He didn’t say anyone had to comply with him example. He chose to do so while kneeling during the playing of the National Anthem. When Kaepernick was blackballed this year, a select few players followed in his footsteps.

    In response, our president, a guy who used Fake Ailments to defer being drafted into the armed service for the Vietnam War on five occasions, who disrespected a Gold Star family and a war hero, whose popularity is mired in lows not seen by any other president in American history, chose to exploit the situation for personal political gain. The president pitted black against white, player versus owner, fan against all things NFL while threatening the business and personal livelihoods of owners and players if they didn’t succumb to his rant calling protesting players SOBs. Fox Network, in a rare rebuke of the president, called him out because his actions harmed their business and that of their business partner, the NFL.

    Trump, the divider in chief, now has his mob buttressed by feelings of moral superiority and false bravado dictating to everyone else how they must think and act.

    Sorry, Mr. Trump, that dog don’t hunt. We can see the Confederate Flag underneath the American Flag you have wrapped yourself in.

  56. It’s always the person cheating who is accusing their significant other of cheating. Trump always claims everything is ‘fake news’ because he is the one lying non stop. A year ago when publications printed that trump had ties to russia, it was ‘fake news’, now we know they took secret meetings with russian officials, and donald signed a letter to build a trump tower in Moscow. Sooooo it wasn’t fake news that he had ties to russia. Just a liar trying to distract the less educated people who are more gullible.

  57. xavier179 says:
    September 28, 2017 at 11:52 am
    alltee, get your facts straight before posting.
    The Cowboys versus Cardinals game posted the highest Monday Night Football ratings in 3 years.
    If you are standing by your president, then get use to his many errors in judgement.
    =========================================================================================

    this is a perfect example of the problems facing information today, xavier here thinks that one game of good ratings means a factual statement that ratings for all 16 games were down based on the previous year. so i wants to send a congrats to xavier if you replace 15 of the games with the ratings of the one monday night game than ratings are booming this year, please ignore the 100 articles easily searchable on google about how the nfl ratings are significantly down because xavier has proven the flaw in that statement. as well the ratings for the emmys werent horrific this year as minute 35 of the emmys was up in comparison to minute 35 of the emmy’s last year

    the error in judgement you refer to is based on your desperation to alter facts which nobody is denying, you cant find a single article stating that the week 3 ratings are up for this year, but you found a loophole, if we ignore 93.75 percent of the games this week than ratings are booming!!! thanks for your input genius

  58. Lets recap:
    – some nazis are good. fire all kneelers.
    – McCain isn’t a hero because he was captured. Stand for the flag
    – Navy Seal says kneeling during anthem is respectful. Keyboard patriots who won’t even drop their kneelers from their fantasy teams so much as fight for their country say that it’s disrespectful.
    – non football stuff? Not enough time. Let’s just say, “Lock Her Up.” vs. What about Jared, Ivanka, pick anyone in the inner circle.

    This is what it must be like living in the Twilight Zone.

  59. “They’re not accurate. They’re not factual.” That can and has been said about the evidence in the Brady and Elliott suspensions. What we have here between Trump and the NFL are two compulsive liars making up “facts” to fit their narratives.

    On a side note, it’s hilarious how the left think that anyone who voted for Trump is uneducated. You’re showing your lack of comprehension and common sense by making that assumption.

  60. rjwalnuts says:
    September 28, 2017 at 1:21 pm

    “They’re not accurate. They’re not factual.” That can and has been said about the evidence in the Brady and Elliott suspensions. What we have here between Trump and the NFL are two compulsive liars making up “facts” to fit their narratives.

    On a side note, it’s hilarious how rjwalnuts thinks that anyone who didn’t vote for Trump must feel a certain way. You’re showing your lack of comprehension and common sense by making that assumption.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    There. I fixed it for you. While you’re sputtering, the word you seek is “irony.”

  61. A lie? What part? According to Reuters, a left leaning polling organization, 59% of those polled believe that the players should respect the anthem and stand. Looks like the public gets it and the NFL doesn’t.

  62. I love how these idiots continue to say the protests are not about the national anthem and are not meant to disrespect the national anthem but they only protest DURING the national anthem. They’re not protesting before the game, after the game, at city hall during the week, at police HQ during the week. Only during the national anthem, but it has nothing to do with the national anthem. Its like saying you hate McDonalds but you only eat at McDonalds. No wonder 85% of these fools are broke 3 years after their last NFL game.

  63. alltee says:

    September 28, 2017 at 11:29 am

    week 3 of the NFL, ratings down 11 percent from last year which were down over ten percent from the year before, last year they told us it was because of the election. direct TV in an unprecedented move is giving refunds on the NFL package. thousands of fans burning their NFL merchandise and vowing to never go to a game. fans booing in many stadiums across the country,
    ___________________________________________________________________________

    Good, ticket prices have been over-inflated for years. Maybe now they’ll drop back to a reasonable price, and I won’t have to listen to so many willfully stupid/uneducated people complain while trying to enjoy a game.

    The NFL won’t bend to politicians or whiny fair-weather fans who will ALL be back the moment their team starts looking like it has a chance for the playoffs. The NFL will be just fine!

  64. commentawaitingdeletion says:
    September 28, 2017 at 12:48 pm
    isitheshoes says:
    September 28, 2017 at 12:29 pm
    I wonder how many of you all put your food and beer down, stand up and take your hat off during the anthem when you’re out watching the game at the bar? Because ever since I’ve been watching any type of sport, I haven’t seen a single person do it ever.
    __________________________________________________________
    That is the lamest of all arguments. Ever since I’ve been watching sports I have never once seen the colors being physically presented at a bar or in my living room for that matter.
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    According to the flag code, no distinction is made whether the flag has to be physically presented at your present location or not:

    The Salute
    To salute, all persons come to attention. Those in uniform give the appropriate formal salute. Citizens not in uniform salute by placing their right hand over the heart and men with head cover should remove it and hold it to left shoulder, hand over the heart. Members of organizations in formation salute upon command of the person in charge.

    The Pledge of Allegiance and National Anthem
    … When the national anthem is played or sung, citizens should stand at attention and salute at the first note and hold the salute through the last note. The salute is directed to the flag, if displayed, otherwise to the music.

  65. Everyone commenting about fair-weather fans that will return if their team is good are the same people that believed Hillary had a 99% chance of winning. You’ve missed the boat once and you continue to miss the boat. Unlike this ‘protest’ movement, the end of the PC snowflake era has just begun.

  66. isitheshoes says:
    September 28, 2017 at 1:58 pm
    commentawaitingdeletion says:
    September 28, 2017 at 12:48 pm
    isitheshoes says:
    September 28, 2017 at 12:29 pm
    I wonder how many of you all put your food and beer down, stand up and take your hat off during the anthem when you’re out watching the game at the bar? Because ever since I’ve been watching any type of sport, I haven’t seen a single person do it ever.
    __________________________________________________________
    That is the lamest of all arguments. Ever since I’ve been watching sports I have never once seen the colors being physically presented at a bar or in my living room for that matter.
    ——————————————————————————————

    According to the flag code, no distinction is made whether the flag has to be physically presented at your present location or not:

    The Salute
    To salute, all persons come to attention. Those in uniform give the appropriate formal salute. Citizens not in uniform salute by placing their right hand over the heart and men with head cover should remove it and hold it to left shoulder, hand over the heart. Members of organizations in formation salute upon command of the person in charge.

    The Pledge of Allegiance and National Anthem
    … When the national anthem is played or sung, citizens should stand at attention and salute at the first note and hold the salute through the last note. The salute is directed to the flag, if displayed, otherwise to the music.
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    Great info…except they dont show the playing of the anthem before the game on TV while at a bar or anywhere. Watch much football? If its an instance like perhaps “The Big Game” and they DO show the playing of the national anthem I certainly do participate. I get fired up frankly. America!!!

  67. isitheshoes says:
    September 28, 2017 at 12:29 pm
    I wonder how many of you all put your food and beer down, stand up and take your hat off during the anthem when you’re out watching the game at the bar? Because ever since I’ve been watching any type of sport, I haven’t seen a single person do it ever.

    —————

    How many people have a flag in their living room? Pretty stupid comment.

  68. isitheshoes says:
    September 28, 2017 at 12:29 pm
    I wonder how many of you all put your food and beer down, stand up and take your hat off during the anthem when you’re out watching the game at the bar? Because ever since I’ve been watching any type of sport, I haven’t seen a single person do it ever.
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    They dont play that portion of the pre-game on TV. So no, you’ve never seen it at a bar. If its before “The Big Game” and they do show it, I certainly participate. I get fired up, frankly. America!!!

  69. Joe Lockhart wants to cry that this has “become political”, he is wrong. It has always been political, the problem the NFL owners, employees and players are now facing is that the other side of the political spectrum is pushing back hard. One can argue that last year’s ratings (down ~10%) was the initial soft push back, which had the Owners been smart would have cued them to take corrective action. Now they face blow back from a growing anti-NFL/protest in sports movement, that is how a movement works – slowly at first, gain speed then eventual become mainstream. The NFL should have suspended Colin Kaepernick last year, not because of the statement he was trying to make but because is behavior was inappropriate for the workplace/venue/league/NFL/etc. If I launch into a political protest at my work when their is a participation activity taken place I am going to get discipline and eventually fired. Same rules should apply in the NFL, this is their workplace, these players or tarnishing the league product and they are doing it while they are on duty and in uniform.

  70. Trump is creating his own fake news and his very conservative base falls for it every.single.time. There’s a reason he’s had the most turnover in staff in less than one year and is the most unpopular president in history.

  71. Sal Tynuts says:
    September 28, 2017 at 2:19 pm

    Great info…except they dont show the playing of the anthem before the game on TV while at a bar or anywhere. Watch much football? If its an instance like perhaps “The Big Game” and they DO show the playing of the national anthem I certainly do participate. I get fired up frankly. America!!!

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    I watch football every Sunday, Monday, Thursday and Saturday when they show those games late in the season. I also watch Baseball and the NBA. While it is correct that the anthem is regularly not televised, that was not the point I was making. Like I said earlier, when it is shown on TV, I’ve yet to see anyone participate, including myself. It is great that you do, because the vast majority cannot truthfully say the same thing.

  72. blah, blah, blah… All the progressives hate Trump. What’s new? You socialists are the minority in this country. Better get used to that.

    It was not Trump that made this a political issue. It was Kaepernick and a few others who had to use the sacrosanct anthem and flag to promote their incessant whining. They are the ones that brought social justice war to the NFL pregame.

    Trump is just calling them out on that being Un-American. He isn’t wrong.

    By the way, as liberal as most Canadians are, they are about the most nationalistic bunch you’ll ever meet. I doubt many would take kindly to disrespecting the ol’ maple leaf flag.

  73. brobokil says:
    September 28, 2017 at 1:52 pm

    The NFL won’t bend to politicians or whiny fair-weather fans who will ALL be back the moment their team starts looking like it has a chance for the playoffs. The NFL will be just fine!

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    you are correct the owners wont bend to politicians or fans, but they will always bend to their pockets, and right now things arent looking good for future revenues moving in a positive direction.

  74. REMEMBER THIS IS 11% ON TOP OF THE 10%-12% LAST YEAR. Anyone that is the retail business knows that those numbers are some bad same store sales numbers and heads about to roll or big changes are about to be made.

    Numbers like that will certainly demand some massive changes in many aspects , so we now have hope…. OR finally some REAL “hope and change”

  75. It appears that most fans have an issue with the sitting / kneeling during the anthem, not the fist raising or joining of arms (I am in this category). It really is about the optics of the specific protests and the players just don’t get it. People, at this point, are focusing on what they consider unpatriotic gestures and have lost sight of what the players are actually protesting. In the end the protests are actually becoming counter productive. Most fans don’t want politics mixed with sports. Most fans watch sports to escape this stuff.

  76. He’s using this outrage to draw attention away from his healthcare plan failed again, he’s widely criticized for provoking North Korea, and his soon to be unveiled tax plan isn’t getting good ‘ratings’ either. He’s controlling the news cycles. He did this during the election. When he can’t control the news cycle he just calls it “fake news” in an attempt to discredit it.

  77. Trump probably shouldn’t have put his nose in it and as a president probably shouldn’t have said anything about it. That aside, he’s been spot on about everything he’s said about this. Don’t let your sensationalized hate and Trump Derangement Syndrome blind you from rational thought.

  78. Owners are absolutely afraid of the players. If an owner tells him players they shouldn’t protest and has coaches bench them, they aren’t going to sign any free agents the next year. Those players with contracts ending will get out as soon as they can.

  79. What the foolish owners have decided to do is to placate their black players that want to use the NFL platform/audience and the National Anthem to protest racial issues. The owners don’t give a damn about how the customers/fans feel about it, that’s OBVIOUS because they’ve allowed it to go on for a long time.

    This is a lose/lose/lose situation. We the fans lose because I haven’t watched an NFL game this year and won’t until the owners end this problem they’ve allowed to fester. The players are going to lose because many of them will either quit or get fired before this is all over. The owners will lose billions of dollars over the next 5 years because their sponsors and the television networks are going to reduce what they are willing to pay the owners for damaged goods.

    I’ve watched NFL football EVERY Sunday for 50 years. This is the first time ever I’ve intentionally stayed away. I don’t miss it because I know I’m doing the right thing. My golf game is improving and extra days of fishing is great.

  80. The owners need to put an end to this before they lose their fans.

    I’m not watching any NFL football until this is over!

    My golf game is improving and more fishing is great.

  81. And it’s just going to get worse…. the NFL isn’t a sport anymore….it’s a money gouging machine and the fans are catching on….

    Overnight ratings for National NFL games on CBS for Week 3:

    2014 — 16.9 (Super Bowl rematch)
    2015 — 14.1
    2016 — 13.9
    2017 — 13.8

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