President Trump: I think NFL owners are afraid of their players

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President Donald Trump’s push to get the NFL to force every player to stand during the playing of the national anthem isn’t slowing down.

In an interview with Fox News taped on Wednesday and broadcast on Thursday morning, the President continued to hammer on the league for allowing players to take a knee or sit during the playing of the song. The latest round of comments focused on NFL owners, who the President says have told him they want to stop players from taking a knee but aren’t doing so out of fear.

“I have so many friends that are owners. And they’re in a box. I mean, I’ve spoken to a couple of them. They say, ‘We are in a situation where we have to do something,'” Trump said. “I think they’re afraid of their players, you want to know the truth, and I think it’s disgraceful. And they’ve got to be tough and they’ve got to be smart.”

There’s not too much difference between those comments and others the President has made recently outside of explicitly raising the idea of the owners, almost all of whom are white, being in fear of players, almost all of whom are black, taking a knee in protest. While the President has said race has nothing to do with his interest in this subject, the entire issue began with Colin Kaepernick protesting unequal treatment of minorities by police and this round of comments does little to keep race out of the forefront of the discussion.

During the interview, the President also asked why the league is not “enforcing a rule that’s been in existence for a long time” that forces players to stand for the anthem.

No such rule exists. The NFL’s Game Operations Manual says both teams must be on the field for the playing of the anthem, but that players “should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking.” Should and must mean two different things, obviously, and the NFL confirmed last year that there is no requirement placed on players to stand for the song.

The President has made it quite clear that he feels the league should have a different approach and it seems that he’s going to keep talking about it until they bow to that feeling.

143 responses to “President Trump: I think NFL owners are afraid of their players

  1. The NFL’s Game Operations Manual says both teams must be on the field for the playing of the anthem, but that players “should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking

    So what about the teams like Pittsburgh that stayed IN the locker room? Did they break the rule?

  2. 99% of us believe that kneeling for the Anthem is wrong because it shows support for crime and terrorism. However, only Donald, “the Divider” Trump could make something so despicable so popular.

  3. Stop talking about the NFL Trump! You are just using your fake patriotism to distract Americans from your treason and incredibly poor leadership.

  4. PATRIOT: a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors.

  5. Just read an article Republican Senator says Russian internet trolls stoked NFL debate… interesting.

    I don’t support the flag protest but I also don’t support Trumps cheap divisive tactics. I’m baffled about all of the outrage. Where was all the outrage when the confederate flag was being paraded around? I use to often see the confederate flag at college and pro games and different nationally televised events around the country. Is there anything more disrespectful to the flag than something that wanted to eliminate what it actually stood for States uniting to form a country? Trump and the extremes on both sides who seem to get some type of perverse enjoyment out of political and racial discourse appear to be happy about the renewed protesting. I thought the NFL was doing a good job with this ill advised protest. Colin was out of the league and, I believe, only 3 or 4 players were still protesting. The political views of young people in their 20’s is not something mature adults should waist much time on.

  6. Not Jerruh. They’re afraid of Jerruh. Jerry is afraid of Jerruh. You know how to get over this mess. Let’s quit talking about it. Players quit protesting. Lets play some darn football its only wk 4 and the only football story I can think of is the way the refs handled that Lions game and the KC rookie rb in beast mode. Now that guy deserves some attention.

  7. “Still amazed that the man who ran an entire campaign on saying “America sucks” has the gall to accuse others of insufficient national pride.”
    – Parker Molloy

  8. I actually agree with Trump on this one everyone of the owners is afraid of being called a racist plain and simple.

  9. Why is the President of the United States so worried about this issue ? All of the issues that are going on in this country and abroad that threaten our very existence and this is what this president want to stand on the table about. SMH it may be time to get him out and move on before we all perish.

  10. Sigh. I wish the President would stop deflecting. This is the equivalent of Nero playing the fiddle while Rome burns. Our federal government is in chaos and Trump has chosen to turn the publics attention to the National Football League and away from his governments failings.

  11. The players should be afraid of the fans – fans are going to speak with their wallets. 2017 ratings are already 11% below the 2016 ratings (which were 8% below 2015 ratings). That’s an 18% decline over the past two years.

    That is going to have an impact on the salary cap at some point.

  12. Majority of people up in arms about this do not even know what they are kneeling for. The flag has nothing to do with the military so they are not disrespecting the American service men and women. The flag is for the American people. Anyone who protests is well within their rights no matter what they are doing thanks to the second amendment. I really wish the majority of people that comment would at least know what they are talking about and get the facts first. Once Trump gets impeached this will all settle down and someone will have the job of bringing the U.S. back into the 21st century and making America great again.

  13. To the players,- I knew it would be just a matter of time that you would screw up a good thing !!!

  14. Owners are scared of players sitting out.
    They assume the fans will get over it.
    What a “great” time to have the weakest commissioner in the history of sports at the helm to navigate this PR disaster! Time to earn that $30 million paycheck, Rog!

  15. Great opportunity for an owner to meet with the team, start a dialogue, come up with some out-front action that they can all do together on their off day. Out in the community, showing solidarity. Meet with city officials, law officials, MAKE change happen if change is the ultimate goal.

    I’m in sales, I can’t wait for sales to come to me, I have to go get it, make it happen. Kneeling isn’t going to make any changes come to fruition, get off the knees and use your feet.

    The NFL has screwed this up so bad. I do hope ratings continue to plummet, revenues drop, and Goodell is finally fired. This is a PR nightmare bigger than Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson, not that those offenses aren’t worse, just that this is personal for so many more people.

  16. anyone that learned Latin or French or Spanish know should and must are the same:

    “should
    SHo͝od,SHəd/Submit
    verb
    1.
    used to indicate obligation, duty, or correctness, typically when criticizing someone’s actions.”

  17. This is the world we live in now. I don’t know where we went wrong. On one side, today’s youth think that they have the Right to not be offended by anything (which is against the ENTIRE reason for our 1st Amendment). On the other side we somehow came to the point where we elected this Demagogue to the highest office in the land. As human beings we all make mistakes, and the beauty of our system is that we get to correct those mistakes. I am not an Obama fan in any sense of the word, but can anyone honestly say they were more embarrassed on a world stage with him in office? If the owners acquiesce to Trumps demands, the next step will be to make “God Bless Trump, Our Supreme Leader” the only legal cheer at any sporting event. I dislike seeing anthem protests just as much as the next person, and it is definitely hurting the league. That being said, being President doesn’t also automatically make you the stand-in commissioner of any sport you choose. He is putting himself AND the owners in a very tough spot. If the owners cave, the players will probably strike. If they don’t they diminish the (very little remaining) credibility in the Office of President. Meanwhile fans have to sit and watch all this as it happens.

  18. This idiot needs to focus on running the country. Instead he’s trying to get his supporters all charged up over athletes kneeing, that they don’t see there’s no wall being built, no ACA being repealed and none of his other campaign promises are happening. Meanwhile he’s playing chicken with a leader just as crazy as he is with less to hold him back in North Korea. Oh and there’s that whole Russian angle as well…

  19. Well people can say what they want about Trump. But he is thankfully not a politician. Politicians try to appease people all the time. They fall in line with what people tell them to do and say. They are puppets who ultimately give up on their beliefs and just try to keep their jobs and line their pockets-In other words sell out the country.

    Trump does not discriminate. If he is willing to publicly call out his very powerful and rich friends-Agree or not, this man is about the principles he believes in. And is not afraid to put the country first. This is what it means to keep it real, people. And we as Americans have not seen this in a very very long time. Thats why many don’t even consider it. TRUMP IS WHO HE SAID HE WOULD BE. That’s quite refreshing.

  20. From Snopes:

    WHAT’S TRUE
    The NFL’s rulebook says nothing about player conduct during the pre-game playing of the U.S. national anthem.

    WHAT’S FALSE
    The NFL’s game operations manual may contain a policy stating that players must be present on the sidelines during the national anthem, but not that they must stand.

  21. Speak by removing advertising dollars. If the nfl supports vets, let them do it with their own money. No more tax payer money being used on nfl advertising.

  22. The owners at some point had to decide that ticking off the flag people would be less harmful to their brand than telling their players to stand- they don’t want the media calling them racist, while the players and their lady friends start tweeting that the owners are Uncle Tom’s. Not hard to see. One of the groups is going to be unhappy at the end of this

  23. They are afraid of the publicity for being “racist.” As a long time NFL fan, I’m ready to watch this burn. Direct TV is giving refunds for anyone who is unaware. Just mention the protests.

  24. The players kneeling now are doing it because of you Trump..keep fanning the flame and your supporters like the Pennsylvania fire chief will continue to show their true colors

  25. Trump has made this situation infinitely worse. Although it makes me sick to my stomach to observe and I think it’s wrong…the bottom line is: it is not against the law to kneel during the national anthem. It’s a form of peaceful protest. It is also not against the law to criticize the players, owners, not attend/watch games! The NFL players keep saying this is ‘not about disrespecting the military’…I think the general fan response to the players is ‘standing for the anthem is not disrespecting minorities’. Shut up Trump, let the chips fall where they may.

  26. This guy is an idiot. Diversion tactics…then when all else fails, blame the problem on someone else.

  27. It’s been 13 months. You have had more than enough time to either get over it, or accept it. After 13 months you can’t still get shocked and outraged over something so trivial and then call others snowflakes.

    If people can’t handle a silent non contact protest that widely goes un-televised how could they possible take on any sort of real issue? get a hold of yourselves for gods sake.

  28. Where’s the Commish in all this? In a dark cave sucking his thumb in the fetal position? I wanna see Trump and Goodell go mano a mano! One defends our flag while the other defends his shield! LETS GO!!

  29. No, the OPerating Manual says, the players MUST be on the sidelines for the anthem. In your quest to prove Trump incompetent/out of touch/wrong/lying, you have illustrated your own lack of integrity.

  30. Say what you want about Trump but he stated what polls say almost 70% of NFL fans were thinking in that the players were stepping on sacred ground by protesting during the anthem. People actually need to understand that the anthem should\always be a time for unity of a nation and respect for those who have sacrificed, you just don’t impede on that.

  31. My popcorn can’t pop fast enough! I am thoroughly enjoying watching this league being torn apart torched at the hands of snowflakes and this is coming from a former diehard fan of 27 years. Keep the tweets coming POTUS!!!

  32. “President Trump: I think NFL owners are afraid of their players”

    Now I know Trump doesn’t know anything. That’s the NBA he’s thinking of. The only league I’ve seen where the players fired an owner, here’s looking at you Donald Sterling. Who come to think of it was a lot like Donald Trump (research Sterling’s discriminatory housing practices for more info.)

  33. Supporting your employees is actually a sign of good leadership. Throwing them under the bus and trying to rule with an iron fist is a sign of an inferiority complex. Whether the owners personally agree or not, making their players feel supported by the organization is the smart thing to do.

  34. pjbergeron81 says:
    September 28, 2017 at 9:24 am
    I think they should go back to rules prior to 2005 when the Anthem was only played
    at the playoff and Superbowl.
    _______________
    Seriously?
    Not much of a sports fan, eh?

  35. If people are truly that offended, then turn off the TV. Don’t set your fantasy lineups. Don’t go to the games. Seriously, just stop. Move on.

  36. “PATRIOT: a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors.”

    Draft Dodger … someone who uses their money and influence to avoid the draft.

  37. Please. Just. Stop. Do something useful like helping hurricane victims or maybe do so actual LEGISLATING. Stop deflecting from the things that YOU’VE done wrong, Mr. Trump

  38. America… let’s all BOO the kneelers off the field. BOO them every chance you get. When their names are mentioned on PA? Boo louder.

    You wanna disrespect our anthem and flag? We the people disrespect you right back. Maybe you’ll get the hint.

    BOOOOOOO

  39. fsstnotch says:
    September 28, 2017 at 8:35 am
    PATRIOT: a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors.
    ______________________________________________
    …yea well 2 things about that.

    When “the don” was called to “vigorously support his country” he ultimately bowed out (5 times) and the jury is still out on whether he is defending of colluding with enemies.

    but don’t let truth ruin your narr.

  40. There are now credible reports that network camera operators were instructed to not broadcast the wide negative reaction in the stands to the protests, and just focus on the players. What a surprise.

  41. fsstnotch says:
    September 28, 2017 at 8:35 am
    PATRIOT: a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors.
    ——————————————-

    How convenient you left out the second definition at dictionary.com

    2. a person who regards himself or herself as a defender, especially of individual rights, against presumed interference by the federal government.

  42. My popcorn can’t pop fast enough! I am thoroughly enjoying watching this league being torn apart torched at the hands of snowflakes and this is coming from a former diehard fan of 27 years. Keep the tweets coming POTUS!!!
    ———-
    unfortunately there are a lot of people like yourself loving watching the progress our parents and grandparents generations made come tumbling to the ground. There is a responsibility that comes with living in a free county. Freedom isn’t exactly free. It has a cost. We seem to have a ton of free loaders not pulling their weight while admitting to enjoying watching freedom burn while calling themselves a Patriot.

  43. I am a veteran. I am outraged. Not at the NFL or its players, but at our president who focuses only on matters that are A) personal affronts or B) will score him easy political points.

    Keep protesting, NFL. Don’t believe the rhetoric. There are more of us vets who support you than the crazies will let you believe.

  44. I could swear he said that he wasn’t preoccupied with the NFL but here he is everyday talking about the NFL.

  45. #LyinRoger Goodell of course hasn’t got a whole lot to say about it these days. No leadership whatsoever. Time to go. Just like my name says.

    #FireGoodell

  46. …the President also asked why the league is not “enforcing a rule that’s been in existence for a long time” that forces players to stand for the anthem.

    Just another lie from Chief Oompa Loompa

  47. Uh oh the backlash has begun. Major sponsor just pulled out and I’m sure more to follow. How many of you think Delany is sitting in team officials office graveling and apologizing to keep his job? You don’t alienate the consumers the owner to lose money.

  48. NFL owners fearing their players is the equivalent of corporate CEOs fearing their own employees. That’s ridiculous.

    Moreover, Trump still misses the point on what the players are really doing. They aren’t protesting the military or the American flag. They are protesting racial inequality in this country, which is undeniable when considering events like Charlottesville. How has this message gotten lost amid all this debating?

  49. Trump literally knows nothing about running the country and relies on his handlers, who barely know as much as he does. He has spent more time and used more political capital on this NFL nonsense than he did trying to get a healthcare replacement through congress.

    He is the absolute worse. We should not be talking about this on PER but the man keeps using his bully pulpit on the most inconsequential things that has zero impact on people’s lives except maybe some hurt feelings from people that like to call others snowflakes for being easily offended.

  50. unfortunately there are a lot of people like yourself loving watching the progress our parents and grandparents generations made come tumbling to the ground. There is a responsibility that comes with living in a free county. Freedom isn’t exactly free. It has a cost. We seem to have a ton of free loaders not pulling their weight while admitting to enjoying watching freedom burn while calling themselves a Patriot.
    ****************************************************************************
    I think we are comparing apples to rocket ships here. Any one of those players has all the freedom I do, if not more because of their economic status. What exactly are they being oppressed from?

  51. “NFL owners fearing their players is the equivalent of corporate CEOs fearing their own employees.”

    You clearly don’t work at a unionized company or one that is trying to unionize.

  52. If the owners were afraid of the players they would have never forced a lockout or secured a CBA that benefits them so much.

    As far as the protests not doing anything; that’s just silly. You’re here talking about it and if you’re reading all the comments you’re at least seeing that many Americans feel there is a constitutional violation being conducted by our nation’s law enforcement. You can no longer plead ignorance to the issue you’re forced to deal with it or be willfully ignorant of the argument.

    Sadly the president is choosing willful ignorance. Stating that “this isn’t about race”, only serves to reinforce the protesters point. Because a white government official is telling black protesters why they are protesting. He’s not engaging in the discussion he’s changing the subject ignoring their concerns.

    No protest is going to be both effective and socially acceptable. Everyone knows Rosa Parks because she refused to follow the law and stand, the same with MLKJ who was arrested over and over and over.

  53. For the last time :

    1. There is no rule in the NFL rulebook regarding standing for the National Anthem.
    2. Major sponsors ARE NOT pulling out of the NFL
    3. Revenue IS NOT down due to the kneeling
    4. There is no evidence that a majority support Trump in his NFL crusade
    5. Prominent military families have said they DO NOT feel the NFL is disrespecting the flag.

    These false narratives are being pushed by a vocal few with an agenda. If anyone disagrees with what i have posted please fact check for yourselves because the people who keep posting these falsehoods are doing it deliberately.

    I’m sure Trump would rather you focus on this rather than the huge tax giveaway for the rich that he expects the poor and middle class to pay for.

  54. “Afraid of their players”? Why then does the NFL consistently flaunt article 46 to put players in their place? Why is the NFLPA by far the weakest of the major US sports unions? Trump again shows he isn’t following things very closely before he comments.

  55. fsstnotch says:
    September 28, 2017 at 8:35 am
    PATRIOT: a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Enemies such as Donald J. Trump.

  56. markg5wagon says:
    September 28, 2017 at 8:41 am
    Why is the President of the United States so worried about this issue ? All of the issues that are going on in this country and abroad that threaten our very existence and this is what this president want to stand on the table about. SMH it may be time to get him out and move on before we all perish.

    I don’t believe he is worried about this issue. He just knows the level of hysteria his thoughts on this will create thus distracting all of you from things that matter. America continues to fall for this, the same way I continue to fall for Amari Cooper in fantasy football each week.

  57. ricko1112 says:
    September 28, 2017 at 8:32 am
    99% of us believe that kneeling for the Anthem is wrong because it shows support for crime and terrorism

    ———-

    Stop telling yourselves that everyone agrees with you because they certainly do not.

    According to the comment ratings, barely 20% agree with this viewpoint and according to other polls, barely half disagree with players using this opportunity to shine a light on racism and inequality.

    Except for the 49ers, I haven’t seen even one owner take up POTUS on his suggestion.

    Perhaps owners are actually opening their eyes to systemic racism, and thinking about this issue and listening to their players as they reflect on donald’s overt racism and try to distance themselves from this disaster of a presidency.

    I can’t wait to see how he “makes Christmas great again” after his total failures with the Boy Scouts, the NBA and NFL.

    M.E.W. (make everything worse)

  58. While the President has said race has nothing to do with his interest in this subject, the entire issue began with Colin Kaepernick protesting unequal treatment of minorities by police
    ===========================================================

    So? Trump didn’t say Kaepernick shouldn’t protest the issue he was protesting.

  59. Remember when it was cool to finally have a businessman in the White House to run this country like a business? Yeah…..

  60. I think we are comparing apples to rocket ships here. Any one of those players has all the freedom I do, if not more because of their economic status. What exactly are they being oppressed from?
    ———
    They are not protesting for themselves. They never have been. They are protesting for equality for the minorities in general. They are standing up (by kneeling LOL!) for those that didn’t make it big. They are standing up for other Americans that have no stage. Nobody knows them because they are poor. And live in poor neighborhoods where nobody goes. The athletes still have families. Aunts, Uncles cousins. Childhood friends. Think about all the people attached to your lives? Hundreds of people, thousands people?
    Money should have nothing to do with justice. I know rich lawyers get rich people off but poor people don’t deserve to be mistreated just because they are poor.

    The protest is just to bring the subject to the forefront for conversation, which is exactly what it has done. I’m not going to protest myself but I do respect what they are doing, while also understanding why it upsets others. I just care more about people general than I care about symbols that are important to me. People are flesh, blood and bone. Symbols are ideals. My ideals can not be killed but my fellow Americans can be mistreated and unfortunately killed.

  61. Hey buddy, why don’t you work on lowering my taxes and stop talking about stuff that doesn’t have anything to do with you. Stop failing at everything. It’s an embarrassment. I mean he can’t even keep his staff from leaking to the media but is talking about somebody being scared, lol.

  62. wyboemail says:
    September 28, 2017 at 8:48 am
    Majority of people up in arms about this do not even know what they are kneeling for. The flag has nothing to do with the military so they are not disrespecting the American service men and women. The flag is for the American people. Anyone who protests is well within their rights no matter what they are doing thanks to the second amendment. I really wish the majority of people that comment would at least know what they are talking about and get the facts first. Once Trump gets impeached this will all settle down and someone will have the job of bringing the U.S. back into the 21st century and making America great again.

    Uh the first amendment maybe

  63. America… let’s all BOO the kneelers off the field. BOO them every chance you get. When their names are mentioned on PA? Boo louder.

    You wanna disrespect our anthem and flag? We the people disrespect you right back. Maybe you’ll get the hint.

    BOOOOOOO
    ——————————————————-
    While it is your 1st amendment right to boo. How is booing during the anthem not being disrespectful to the flag?

  64. The “intent” was for players to protest their perceived police discrimination against black or ethnic people. Whether that is actually happening is debatable.

    The biggest problem was that, regardless of their intent, the actions that they chose to employ were an affront to the entire country, not just the police that they were angry with. And now the flawed original protest has been subverted into being a “freedom of speech” issue and an I hate this president issue.

    When the NFL’s own rules state “players should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking”, that seems clear enough to indicate the kneeling, sitting or intentionally staying in the locker room are outside of the rules. It is up to the team owners and the league to enforce those rules. How they choose to enforce them is up to them.

    Yes, the owners are afraid to oppose the protesting players. They do not want to appear to be racist, or insensitive to the players’ desires. But the president is right in this case: The owners and the league should tell them to protest in some other way that doesn’t violate the rules, like maybe in front of a police station on their off-time?

  65. Booing during the playing of the national anthem is infinitely more disrespectful than silently taking a knee. It’s also much more un-American to try and prevent someone from peacefully protesting than it is to peacefully protest. This is juts the humble opinion of someone in year 30 of military service.

  66. the word “should” simply implies a level of dignity and integrity a citizen of the country they live in would be expected to conduct themselves with regarding ceremonies to honor said country. Not mandatory, just expected out of pure common sense, which has become all too uncommon.

  67. “I actually agree with Trump on this one everyone of the owners is afraid of being called a racist plain and simple”

    The only thing the owners are afraid of is losing money. If people call them racists but they still continue to earn money they could care less.

  68. “America… let’s all BOO the kneelers off the field. BOO them every chance you get. When their names are mentioned on PA? Boo louder.

    You wanna disrespect our anthem and flag? We the people disrespect you right back. Maybe you’ll get the hint.

    BOOOOOOO”

    THAT is hysterical. Great players have been boo’d and had nasty things said to them since childhood. They get boo’d by their own fans. Fans have been booing about this since last year. Better get back to the lab and work on a new fix.

  69. It’s also much more un-American to try and prevent someone from peacefully protesting than it is to peacefully protest.

    There is plenty of time and plenty of ways to peacefully protest that does not involve disrespecting the anthem or the flag.

    And Kaep himself said the word “flag” so that is indeed what it is all about.

    I got no problem booing the players who deserve to be booed either when they take a knee to disrespect the anthem and flag or during the football game itself.

  70. davikes says:
    September 28, 2017 at 10:42 am
    Whatever the outcome, it’s clear that the NFL needs strong leadership from Roger Goodell to resolve the situation. Yup, the NFL is screwed.

    Ding ding ding. Winner.
    🙂

  71. weepingjebus says:

    September 28, 2017 at 9:38 am

    “There are now credible reports that network camera operators were instructed to not broadcast the wide negative reaction in the stands to the protests, and just focus on the players. What a surprise.”

    How is this different from any other time? The cameras have ALWAYS been on the players and others on the field during the anthem.

  72. You know who else will hear the boos?

    The people who matter who pay #LyinRoger Goodell and wonder where he is during all of this.

    A real commissioner would have done something by now. I’m sure his beloved Article 46 can be put to creative use. There’s a time when you can protest and a time when such protest will damage the game and the league.

  73. “The President has made it quite clear that he feels the league should have a different approach and it seems that he’s going to keep talking about it until they bow to that feeling.”

    He’ll keep talking about it until there is another newsworthy event that keeps news focus off his failed healthcare legislation, poor handling of North Korea, poor handling of natural disasters at home and in Mexico, and the Mueller investigation that is closing in.

    During the election he grabbed a hold of the news cycle and never let go. He manipulates the media now, and when he can’t manipulate it, he calls it fake news.

  74. count974 says:
    September 28, 2017 at 10:50 am
    Booing during the playing of the national anthem is infinitely more disrespectful than silently taking a knee. It’s also much more un-American to try and prevent someone from peacefully protesting than it is to peacefully protest. This is juts the humble opinion of someone in year 30 of military service.

    ———

    I instantly discount anyone claiming to be a vet and agreeing with the protesters. I have 17 years in Law Enforcement and I work with numerous vets every single day. Not one of them agrees with protesting during the National Anthem. The closest I have heard is that they think they can protest, but it doesn’t mean they should, and that it is blatantly disrespectful.

    Booing people that are disrespecting the flag by kneeling when they should be standing is more disrespectful? That’s straight up intellectual dishonesty.

    I guess we should throw a parade when players start burning the flag on the field, eh? Because that is apparently constitutionally protected speech too.

  75. Did you guys actually post the rule(s) that we’re talking about so people can look at them themselves? Instead of just telling us what they say and don’t say..?

    ——-

    “The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.
    During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.”

    ———-

    Looks like you guys also want dismiss the ‘should’ part of “pointing out to the players that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country”.

    Trump didn’t start this… Someone else made a ‘divisive’ move first.

  76. NFL fines and/or penalizes players for over celebrating in End Zone, uniform violations, lewd gestures, etc.etc. Yet NFL does not enforce the rule on anthem below and pretends to be military supporters. Hypocrisy.

    POTUS is right.

    “The NFL’s Game Operations Manual says both teams must be on the field for the playing of the anthem, but that players “should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking.”

  77. bigdbaby says:

    September 28, 2017 at 10:38 am

    wyboemail says:
    September 28, 2017 at 8:48 am
    Majority of people up in arms about this do not even know what they are kneeling for. The flag has nothing to do with the military so they are not disrespecting the American service men and women. The flag is for the American people. Anyone who protests is well within their rights no matter what they are doing thanks to the second amendment. I really wish the majority of people that comment would at least know what they are talking about and get the facts first. Once Trump gets impeached this will all settle down and someone will have the job of bringing the U.S. back into the 21st century and making America great again.

    Uh the first amendment maybe

    LOL, sorry about that. I am a hunter so I am usually worried about the second one. My bad. See, unlike Trump I can admit a mistake.

  78. I hope all the NFL teams do what the Cowboys did. Kneel together before the anthem and stand together during it. Hopefully that will put the focus back on what kneeling was supposed to be about in the first place, and it will show everyone is unified. Trump or anyone else that had a problem with kneeling during the anthem shouldn’t have a problem with that, so it takes away that argument.

  79. Again…from Snopes:

    WHAT’S TRUE
    The NFL’s rulebook says nothing about player conduct during the pre-game playing of the U.S. national anthem.

    WHAT’S FALSE
    The NFL’s game operations manual may contain a policy stating that players must be present on the sidelines during the national anthem, but not that they must stand.

    You can keep posting the lie…that doesn’t make it true.

  80. I think that some of you are losing site of the bigger picture.

    Kap said he started the protest about racial inequality, other players joined. This is their right, however most of them chose a method that focused the entire country. FJW2 mentioned it above as well. And while some of the players are still saying that, the players and owners that just started last week were talking more about unity and supporting each other not the protest.

    When Trump entered and said what he did, everyone was up in arms about what he said and decided to unity and support for each other. This served to only inflame the method, not the actual protest as more and more people are viewing this as even more anti-American because it is against the President. And it continues.

    At this point, you read the comments some are talking about racial inequities but most are talking about standing, kneeling, or sitting. What has been most forgotten about is what actually started the whole issue (or that is what was said to start it).

    So as far as an effective tool, it has had an almost adverse effect. Nobody will win this particular fight as they are fighting 2 different battles and by the time everyone recognizes this each side will be to far down their respective ideologies.

    What a shame

  81. LyinRogerMustGo says:
    September 28, 2017 at 9:17 am
    I’m ready to boo the kneelers off the field this weekend! Who is with me?
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    Booing during the playing of the national anthem? In what crazy universe is booing less disrespectful than silently kneeling?

  82. Standing up for your players who Trump called “SOBs who should be fired”? Speaking of and acting upon UNITY as opposed to the language of fear and division? Pointing to the fact that MOST NFL players do a lot of work to support their communities? This translates to being “afraid”. Wow. Ok. Trump is right again and “really giving it to the left”. However, he is NOT preoccupied with the NFL, he just cant quit talking about it.

  83. bigjdve says:

    So as far as an effective tool, it has had an almost adverse effect. Nobody will win this particular fight as they are fighting 2 different battles and by the time everyone recognizes this each side will be to far down their respective ideologies.

    What a shame
    ____

    So true. The statement had to be made different than what had been made. It will be made and made again and by more people as each statement is getting through to some. Ultimately though, this populous that can’t let themselves listen, actually listen to the other side will always be an impediment to both sides.

  84. Spot on! Yes, the NFL IS afraid of their players and the NFLPA as well!
    ======

    Yet the owners have broken the players in every labor dispute.

    The Union nearly collapsed in 1982, and the 1987 players strike was all but pointless.

  85. agent7x6 says:
    September 28, 2017 at 11:39 am
    LyinRogerMustGo says:
    September 28, 2017 at 9:17 am
    I’m ready to boo the kneelers off the field this weekend! Who is with me?
    ——————————————————————————————–
    Booing during the playing of the national anthem? In what crazy universe is booing less disrespectful than silently kneeling?

    ——-

    False equivalency, and not even a good, or even remotely rational one.

    The booing is because of the disrespecting of the National Anthem and our flag. The kneeling is intentional disrespect. The booing is a result of the kneeling, not a result of the National Anthem being played.

    The booing would stop if the kneeling stopped.

    Try harder.

  86. jh82208 says:
    September 28, 2017 at 9:56 am

    I think we are comparing apples to rocket ships here. Any one of those players has all the freedom I do, if not more because of their economic status. What exactly are they being oppressed from?
    ——————

    Good grief. These players aren’t protesting because they are oppressed, they are providing a voice for the people that don’t have the means or opportunity to protest.

  87. A sitting President of the United States has publicly stated he is against the first amendment rights held by these citizens. In fact they should be fired for it. Check the Constitution you swore to uphold, Imbecile Donnie. You’re going against what the founders of this country intended and put on paper. The fact that there are people aligning themselves with that, and calling themselves patriots might be the greatest oxymoron ever. You’re a Traitor Patriot. So are your minions. You are either for the Constitution to apply to all citizens, or you’re not. IF you are calling for their firing, or that they have to stand, they need to stop, you are not for the Constitution of the United States, the amendment is clear. Take all of it and accept it, even what you don’t like, or take the benefits of none of it for yourself, and don’t dare call yourself patriotic. Trump has spent more time on this…than he did Charlottesville, VA.They were celebrating a treasonous general while protesting his statue’s removal. The Confederate States, was a treasonous action. The Confederate Flag is treasonous, therefore flying is treasonous. Apparently kneeling offends him, but not celebrating treason and it’s symbols.

  88. “For the last time :

    1. There is no rule in the NFL rulebook regarding standing for the National Anthem.
    2. Major sponsors ARE NOT pulling out of the NFL
    3. Revenue IS NOT down due to the kneeling
    4. There is no evidence that a majority support Trump in his NFL crusade
    5. Prominent military families have said they DO NOT feel the NFL is disrespecting the flag.

    These false narratives are being pushed by a vocal few with an agenda. If anyone disagrees with what i have posted please fact check for yourselves because the people who keep posting these falsehoods are doing it deliberately.

    I’m sure Trump would rather you focus on this rather than the huge tax giveaway for the rich that he expects the poor and middle class to pay for.”

    All the overwhelming boos when the camera was focused on kneeling players are unbiased evidence that you’re wrong.

    As far as Trump’s tax plan, it calls for doubling the standard deduction, which will ensure even more liberal layabouts will pay no net income tax.

  89. helldog33 says:
    September 28, 2017 at 1:15 pm

    All the overwhelming boos when the camera was focused on kneeling players are unbiased evidence that you’re wrong.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________

    Are you saying they are booing in agreement with the kneeling players or booing at the kneeling players?

  90. Another lame comment from a lame president. Who cares if D.J.Rump thinks the NFL owners are afraid of their players? What matters is that our president Rump is tweeting garbage rather than doing his job. He talks about the players getting paid load of $ to play and that they should just play the game and stop the garbage … should he do the same?

  91. I thought this boob would have been removed by now. I hope whatever sentence he receives is at least as long as we have had to put up with his ignorant statements.

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