Devin McCourty: We have to be sure not to turn this into NFL vs. Donald Trump

AP

Patriots safety Devin McCourty was part of a group of players who met with team owners and NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell this week to discuss player protests related to racial inequality and the national anthem.

McCourty said that it was a “unique opportunity” for all involved to share their thoughts and that “both sides got to walk away with an understanding of how each other felt.” That didn’t lead to a unified, league-wide approach to how they’ll handle things in the weeks to come and McCourty said he wants to remain focused on not allowing the players’ message to get lost in a fight with political figures.

“I think the biggest thing is as players, we’ve got to keep in the forefront of what we want to get [across], the inequality,” McCourty said, via the Boston Herald. “I think that’s what’s important. We’ve got to make sure this whole thing doesn’t turn into the NFL vs. Donald Trump. As players, obviously, he is whatever he is. We can probably have an hour of trying to describe that and everything he is. But I think as players, we have an agenda of what we think can be done better and we’re trying to use our platform, and I think we have to stick to that.”

Sixteen Patriots players took a knee during the anthem last Sunday and McCourty said the team will be unified in their approach this weekend, but didn’t specify what they’ll do before the game against the Panthers.

57 responses to “Devin McCourty: We have to be sure not to turn this into NFL vs. Donald Trump

  1. Trump has had a few issues with his base recently. He now supports amnesty for the Dreamers, Obamacare repeal went down in flames again. He just needed a wedge issue to fire the base back up. If he was really patriotic would he have mocked our POWs or dodged the draft five times?

  2. This issue was dying on the vine then Ralph Kramden/Archie Bunker opened his “Big Mouth” in front of his football and biased base. He will now take a victory lap when the bigger issue still remains, the police beatdown of blacks and anyone else who dare to question their authority.

  3. Too late. If Trump’s goal was to bury the message of the protests behind the method, he’s already accomplished his goal. Usually the man’s insane, but once in a while he’s insane in a very calculated way.

  4. When was the last time Devin McCourty and most of these kneeling players spoke up about the situation in Chicago? The protests are a giant distraction about the real issues of inequality.

  5. I think it is a little too late for that.

    How about trying for a little unity with our President instead of uniting against him? How about maybe try that? You wanted a “discussion” and that discussion is now armlocks in silent protest. Your silence is now proof that you didn’t want a discussion and you backed down from your protest pretty quickly.

    Uniting against the President when your fan base is 90% male, 75% over the age of 40 and 80% white is probably not a very smart strategy.

  6. The issue is between the NFL and the FANS.

    FANS, you know the people that buy all the NFL merchandise, attend games (outrageous priced games) pay exorbitant parking fees, beers, bottled price gorging water, hot dogs etc.

    FANS, the people that generate all the loot that pays the NFL.

    FANS, the people that watch hours of boring commercials just to see a game.

    You’ve ticked off the FANS and it needs to stop or it’s going to continue to cost the NFL big $$$$$$$$$.

    They still haven’t figured out who they have offended. FANS FANS FANS

  7. BrownsTownOH says:
    September 29, 2017 at 9:54 am
    A millionaire preaching to us about equality…..these guys are really that dumb?

    Sad!
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    2 issues here. First is that it is entirely possible for someone of means to have empathy and understanding of issues other people face and to try to bring attention to those issues in order to find a remedy.
    Second, I’d be willing to bet the above poster voted for a billionaire that has mocked gold star families, captured soldiers, and dodged the draft 5 times because of phantom bone spurs and yet doesn’t see the hypocrisy in supporting him while chastising affluent athletes.
    Memo to conservatives, when people of color become wealthy they may possibly care about other people of color and their mistreatment by authority.

  8. Can always count on Patsies fans to be mostly libtards in their response. Keep your protests and your inflated salaries, but protest on your own time. You have 5-6 months of off season to fill up. If you were really invested in this protest then use your off time.

  9. pauldeba says:
    September 29, 2017 at 9:59 am
    I think it is a little too late for that.

    How about trying for a little unity with our President instead of uniting against him? How about maybe try that? You wanted a “discussion” and that discussion is now armlocks in silent protest. Your silence is now proof that you didn’t want a discussion and you backed down from your protest pretty quickly.

    Uniting against the President when your fan base is 90% male, 75% over the age of 40 and 80% white is probably not a very smart strategy.
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    Thank you for speaking up for all oppressed white people. May your snowflake never melt. This is your safe space.

  10. revren10 says:
    September 29, 2017 at 10:16 am
    How about football players just play football and stop acting like they care about issues, when in reality they don’t.
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    Right, it’s the players who don’t care about issues. They just uppity!

  11. Because Trump can beat the left at their own game and leaves their heads spinning.
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    And herein lies the problem. As soon as Trump joined the fray, his base got all worked up and this immediately became another left vs right issue. So sick of the division and of republicans thinking anything that makes the left mad is good (and visa versa, to be fair). This isn’t a left vs right issue and that mindset has had our country in gridlock for a decade.

  12. At least he’s acknowledging that the protests have become about Trump, and not whatever else they claim them to be. That’s the first step. I’m actually somewhat disappointed they came to that realization because I was giddily enjoying the demise of the NFL since it turned into the CNNFL.

  13. Well, Devin, you never kneeled before, but decided to kneel the weekend after that orange buffoon opened his blowhole.

    So maybe you should acknowledge that it WAS about players vs president. Otherwise we need to wonder exactly what you were protesting for the first time last week.

    I effing hate all of this. Our ‘leader’ puts out the bait, and everybody has to take it… I wish we could all be better than that.

  14. Running scared. Hear the Boo’s at the games if the networks will let you. Read and observe that over 50% of fans don’t support kneel downers. Protesters have no organization or a directive on exactly what they are protesting. For all the millionaire
    athletes involved as of today do they have a unified one voice on any of it? Take away the free air time there given and then what really do they have or what are they all about?

  15. McCourty had been one of the more articulate voices and has been actively involved in working towards community based solutions but he has stripped a gear if he thinks he has to worry about it being the NFL vs Trump. It’s not as though Trump walks alone, it’s not even his fired up base (which is considerable)added in but rather the core nationalism of a substantial part of the population that otherwise might look at the machinations behind this with a skeptical eye. The sense of gradual erosion through appeasement of the country’s position leading to the rise of ISIS and the growing menace of a nuclear armed wingnut in N. Korea has them looking for a W and at least this is an issue that nationalism feels it can impact. It is frightening to contemplate how easily patriotism can be suborned into jingoistic nationalism. A true patriot always loves his country but at times fears his government. The players have no one to blame but themselves for the position they find themselves. In choosing the wrong vehicle for their protest they put themselves in the crosshairs.

  16. wolfiereasonedlife says:

    Memo to conservatives, when people of color become wealthy they may possibly care about other people of color and their mistreatment by authority.

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    Which mistreatment? Would you mean the beat down of a black guy who attacks a police officer? Perhaps it’s shooting the black teenager who pulls out a gun when told by the cops to get on the ground? Or maybe it’s shooting the black guy who led the police on a high speed chase then goes to get something from his glove compartment when ordered to show his hands? Or maybe it’s the treatment an NFL player receives as police respond to shots fired by a black male, at a club. When that player is seen hiding behind slot machines then flees when the police instruct him to come out he gets tackled and cuffed. Would you mean that mistreatment?

    Or perhaps you are trying to make a point that blacks are mistreated by authority more than whites, although the data has debunked that narrative just like the data debunks the narrative that women make 70% what a man does for the same job.

    There is a narrative and then there is the truth. The truth is that there is no systemic mistreatment of group by authority. It is all political garbage brought to you by all the same actors. The Black Panthers, BLM, “Progressives”, labor unions, La Raza, Antifa, CPUSA, and all the other Communists who have banged the inequality drum for 100 years.

    Don’t you think that these “protests” during the Anthem and against the Flag have a certain symbolism? If they are truly about seeking liberty and equal rights then protesting during the anthem and against the flag seems to be an very odd choice since the represent liberty and equality of opportunity. Yet the protests are aimed directly at those two symbols.

    They are because these groups do not seek equality of opportunity but control of property, centralized power and your serfdom. That way all the peons are equal in that they have to beg for their supper.

  17. Several players have noted these protests aren’t about Trump. You fools just fail to read, instead, you tune into your idiotic tv shows, get information framed in a certain way and then regurgitate false rhetoric like 3-year olds, who don’t know their ABCs yet. Listen to the sound bites, read the articles and maybe you’ll see that this isn’t about Trump, a flag or a meaningless song. The protestors have had a directive, hence why many of them have been involved in police ride alongs, done community service to help bridge the divide between neighbourhoods and the police force and have taken their grievances to congreess and other noted public officials. I understand that many of you are misinformed and doing research probably isn’t your strong suit, but there’s precedent that would we refute the nefarious claims that you’ve been spewing throughout this post.

  18. wolfiereasonedlife says:
    September 29, 2017 at 10:17 am
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    Thank you for speaking up for all oppressed white people. May your snowflake never melt. This is your safe space.

    Reading comprehension is not for millennials. I never said white people were oppressed. I said the players had a lousy strategy considering the demographics of their fans. They should probably work with the guy that was elected, that’s the thing about Trump – he was elected and if you want to protest him without even addressing your grievance to him in a respectful, dignified manner, you’re not going to win. Do you want to win for your cause or just annoy Trump and Trump supporters? that’s the choice

  19. That iconic image of Villanueva standing for the anthem alone is what doomed the NFL protest movement. Not Trump. If anyone is to blame it is Mike Tomlin for creating the circumstances for that iconic image.

  20. Too late. That’s all these protests are now, generic anti-Trump protests. And the players have let themselves be co-opted by people who want football eliminated anyway due to its “toxic masculinity.”

  21. Trump is an incompetent, draft dodging, serial sexual assaulter, fraudster, narcissist and pathological liar. If you think he cares one bit about “respect” for the flag you have your head up your rear. He cares about one thing: Donald Trump. If he were 100% the exact same guy but had (D) after his name instead of (R) these same morons would pitchforking him. Tired of wining yet?

  22. @ patriots123456 dead on call. thanks

    Once again, Armeggadden(sp?) is around the corner! I have agreed with a Patriots fan twice in one week!!!

  23. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:

    September 29, 2017 at 11:24 am

    That iconic image of Villanueva standing for the anthem alone is what doomed the NFL protest movement. Not Trump. If anyone is to blame it is Mike Tomlin for creating the circumstances for that iconic image.

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    You are aware that Villanueva has said he regrets leaving his teammates and is ashamed of that “iconic” image, right? Or are you just another low-information Trumpkin?

  24. This whole little protest was a lost caused when it was decided it was only about black people. It creates more inequality than it helps. Police brutality happens to every race not just black but to just make it only about one race is racist in it self. Also the protests are just a level of pure defiance lately and aimed at President Trump hurting their feelings that most people forget to aknowledge that this all started when Obama was in office. Then you get some full of hate person like Michael Bennett to carry the message because he had a bad encounter. I will tell you one thing that if don’t want to get shot by police just start by following these 2 simple rules 1 don’t carry a firearm on you to look cool or tough and 2 follow police orders and don’t resist arrest or detainment. Then after your encounter doesn’t end in loss of life then you can file any grievances. If you watch the majority of the cop shooting videos loss of life could of been prevented by cooperation wether you agree or not. So far this anthem protest crap has created more racial tension than its solved.

  25. No doubt the players have an axe to grind on a particular issue. However choosing the one moment of the game when the crowd are asked to stand and respect the flag and our country was the wort moment they could of picked to stage their protests.
    The players have shown that they don’t care about the fans who are standing at attention respecting both our flag and country. Why the players don’t understand that is truly baffling.

  26. kwf484 says:

    September 29, 2017 at 9:52 am

    The President of the United States demands respect for the flag

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    Fine. Respect the flag, everyone. It doesn’t mean that we have to respect this president. He shouldn’t even be involved in this.

  27. Never take away a shot to voice how yer feelings are hurt still about losing the election. You ruined the country and now ya want to ruin football. Congrats liberals.

  28. goodellmustgoblog says:

    September 29, 2017 at 11:31 am

    Trump is an incompetent, draft dodging, serial sexual assaulter, fraudster, narcissist and pathological liar. If you think he cares one bit about “respect” for the flag you have your head up your rear. He cares about one thing: Donald Trump. If he were 100% the exact same guy but had (D) after his name instead of (R) these same morons would pitchforking him. Tired of wining yet?
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    I bet you loved Billy Bob Clinton though…

  29. For those who say mistreatment by police happens to every race, the answer is duh. Just like several different types of cancers affects everyone, but the NFL chooses to highlight breast cancer for a month. Please choose not to be so dense.

  30. “The President of the United States demands respect for the flag”

    You forgot to point out “when he has none for it himself”

  31. “You ruined the country and now ya want to ruin football. Congrats liberals.”

    Funny because when Clinton left office there was a 50 billion surplus. When W left office there was a 6+ trillion dollar debt and a destroyed economy.

    Who ruined the country again?

  32. Because that’s exactly what you made it out to be, i.e players versus The President. Where were all these demonstrations two weeks ago? Why is it that nobody can articulate what this is all about? Why is it that it changes depending on who you ask, and when you ask them? Currently, it’s all about the fact that Trump said the NFL owners should fire players that are disrespecting the time they take to pay their respects to the country, flag, Fallen Soldiers, Etc. Considering that the players protesting were largely black, many of the players decided that what the President said was racist, and they sprung into action without actually thinking. Now they’re backtracking. It may be too late. I personally haven’t watched it since that party we had on opening night. That was before whatever it is that they’re doing became widespread. I’m okay with it. I seem to have more time for other things. it’s something I considered for a long time anyway, considering how political the NFL and it’s mouthpiece organizations like BSPN have become. I don’t need these guys telling me what my concerns should be.

  33. Trump is just upset with the NFL because it has been successfully ran despite some hardships. Something he could never manage to do without going bankrupt. Bum

  34. Which mistreatment? Would you mean the beat down of a black guy who attacks a police officer? Perhaps it’s shooting the black teenager who pulls out a gun when told by the cops to get on the ground? Or maybe it’s shooting the black guy who led the police on a high speed chase then goes to get something from his glove compartment when ordered to show his hands? Or maybe it’s the treatment an NFL player receives as police respond to shots fired by a black male, at a club. When that player is seen hiding behind slot machines then flees when the police instruct him to come out he gets tackled and cuffed. Would you mean that mistreatment?

    Or perhaps you are trying to make a point that blacks are mistreated by authority more than whites, although the data has debunked that narrative just like the data debunks the narrative that women make 70% what a man does for the same job.

    There is a narrative and then there is the truth. The truth is that there is no systemic mistreatment of group by authority. It is all political garbage brought to you by all the same actors. The Black Panthers, BLM, “Progressives”, labor unions, La Raza, Antifa, CPUSA, and all the other Communists who have banged the inequality drum for 100 years.

    Don’t you think that these “protests” during the Anthem and against the Flag have a certain symbolism? If they are truly about seeking liberty and equal rights then protesting during the anthem and against the flag seems to be an very odd choice since the represent liberty and equality of opportunity. Yet the protests are aimed directly at those two symbols.

    They are because these groups do not seek equality of opportunity but control of property, centralized power and your serfdom. That way all the peons are equal in that they have to beg for their supper.
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    That’s a great post right there. Sums it up perfectly.

  35. jdubkc says:

    September 29, 2017 at 1:28 pm

    goodellmustgoblog says:

    September 29, 2017 at 11:31 am

    Trump is an incompetent, draft dodging, serial sexual assaulter, fraudster, narcissist and pathological liar. If you think he cares one bit about “respect” for the flag you have your head up your rear. He cares about one thing: Donald Trump. If he were 100% the exact same guy but had (D) after his name instead of (R) these same morons would pitchforking him. Tired of wining yet?
    _____________

    I bet you loved Billy Bob Clinton though…

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    No. He was a lying turd too. I’m consistent. This is what baffles me about Trumpkins. All the principles they claim to stand for are violated by Trump and they just say “whatabout Clinton.” Guess what, Clinton is not president. Trump promises to drain the swamp, and then fills it with Goldman Sachs execs, lobbyists, etc who bill the taxpayer for private planes and profit from public business. Trump claims to respect the flag and the anthem but he insults John McCain for getting captured during the Vietnam War (which Trump draft dodged like Clinton) and gold star families who died in the Iraq war. He’s for the dreamers, then he’s against them, then he’s for them. He likes health care reform, then he’s against it. He’s gonna build a wall, but its going to be an invisible wall. Trump’s flip flops make John Kerry look like a stand up guy. He lies about stupid crap like having his phones tapped. He wants to lock up Hillary for private email but then Jared and Ivanka do it too. He gives classified info to the Russians because he’s too lazy to read a briefing book from the CIA. So much winning.

  36. I’m confused, Devin. Which two sides? The ownership and the players? Those two sides were already in agreement, apparently. JJ knelt with his players for God’s sake. The one brave sole (a veteran, no less) was shamed into apologizing in Pittsburgh. So which other side was represented? The fans were not included. I like McCourty a lot and am (or have been) a Pat’s fan. But the players and owners are totally tone def on this issue.

  37. objectivefootballfan says:
    September 29, 2017 at 10:59 am
    Donald Trump has been an absolute Failure every since he took office. The guy is a fool and complete idiot who makes stupid and dumb statements every week.

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    A complete failure with two straight quarters of 3% GDP growth. Obama was the first president to never manage a single quarter of 3% GDP growth his presidential term. He had 8 years. His financial officers and supports said 3% growth was a thing of the past and would never be achieved again in our lifetime. Trump did it in less then a year. Twice. He was and always will be a blowhard, but he knows how to get people to show their true colors, that’s for sure.

  38. I would love to see a list of the 16 players who knelt last week. As a long time patriot fan and former season ticket holder those 16 players are all dead to me.

  39. I wish Bill would trade or release all the kneelers and we’ll just go 6-10 for a few seasons if we have to.

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