Jonathan Casillas worries intent of protest is being lost

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Giants linebacker Jonathan Casillas was part of a group of players who met with owners and commissioner Roger Goodell this week to talk about the state of the league’s approach to protests during the national anthem.

He’s also a man who has been singled out by police for no good reason. Casillas recounted his reality to Bob Glauber of Newsday, mentioned the number of times he’s been stopped, and how nervous he gets every time.

“I’m not going to be a football player all my life,” Casillas said, “but at the end of the day, I’m still going to be a black man in America.”

And because of that, Casillas seems worried about the actual impact of recent protests.

When former 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick began making a statement during the anthem, it was to protest the unfair treatment of minorities by law enforcement. (It should be noted he began by sitting, but chose to kneel after talking to veterans, as a way of showing respect to their service.)

But over time, Kaepernick’s intent was diluted and appropriated, sometimes by himself (by wearing sock depicting police as pigs, along with Fidel Castro t-shirts). But when President Donald Trump spoke last weekend, hoping owners would fire any “son of a bitch” who knelt, the message changed dramatically.

“Is kneeling conducive for us as players? Is it conducive for our league? Is it conducive for the guys that are actually kneeling?” Casillas said. “Because there’s a guy who kneeled a long time ago, and he hasn’t seen the field since then. Ever since he kneeled down, he’s only done the right thing. Maybe he didn’t do the right thing before that, the whole socks situation. But since he’s kneeled down, he’s only done the right thing. He’s donated his salary and jersey sales and all that.”

Casillas wondered whether last week’s wave of kneeling players were true to Kaepernick’s message, or simply a reaction to a politician throwing red meat to his most loyal supporters.

“Hopefully, we can make changes [in society],” Casillas said. “That’s all we want, and hopefully that can happen.”

Of course, the reflex to last week appears to be more shows of #unity like the Cowboys and Saints have chosen, when teams can separate any political statements from the political statement being made by playing a patriotic song before a ball game. With every team that chooses a route designed to offend the fewest amount of people possible, and resemblance to Kaepernick’s original intent fades further toward obscurity.

93 responses to “Jonathan Casillas worries intent of protest is being lost

  1. Of course it has been lost. Last weekend, players kneeled because they were angry that Donald Trump said they should be fired for doing so. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Sorry, but that’s reality. It’s a simple show of defiance at this point.

  2. Players are not protesting the flag, it has nothing to do with the American Flag. NFL Players are protesting Police Brutality and Social Injustice and they are doing it Peacefully. People need to stop saying players are disrespecting the flag because they are DEAD WRONG.

  3. Maybe pick leaders who have a better message? Kap’s message has included police pig socks (gross generalization), a Che t-shirt (racist mass murder), and $25k donation to a group named after a convicted cop killer…

  4. That was their plan all along. Make it about the flag and the military so you can get upset. Force them to waste time arguing a made up point. It’s how you maintain status quo. You see our president do it all day long.

  5. Sounds like the players are starting to back off of the whole kneeling thing. I’m guessing the owners and the league impressed upon them how this can adversely affect the whole league (players, coaches, owners) financially in the years to come if they don’t find another way to express themselves. I’m sure that the players that aren’t into taking a knee are none to happy to hear that fans are threatening to abandon the NFL in droves. Any patience and understanding they might have had in the beginning would go out the window if they thought their livelihood was being threatened.

  6. There would not have been any significant protests last Sunday had Trump not called the players sons of birches and called for them to be fired. To most of us, Sunday was about Trump. The anthem protests would have died on the vine. Every country has problems, but I would say the we have made incredible progress in the USA the past couple of decades to make the situation much better than it once was and very few believe that there is institutionalized racism in our government. The bigger problem is that there are fringe groups (on both the right and left) causing us all kinds of problems.

  7. The players have our attention, but they have no leader, no plan of action and are offering no solutions.

    How about they get some politicians on board to draft a bill that it mandatory for all law enforcement officers have a functional body camera, if camera is turned off by the officer it carries a minimum sentence.

    Tha might not be it…but it’s something. They will never make any change if they split their message and try to right every injustice.

    Take President Obama in his 1st term until he got the ACA passed if he opened his mouth Affordable Care Act came out…everytime.

  8. Some people are going to try to change the narrative and that is the problem. They will change the narrative to a position that isn’t defensible, have to continue strong with your message if you want change. It was never easy and the complaints I see now are no different than of the past. If you have to change the conversation away from equal treatment under the law you are proving the point of the protest.

  9. Wouldn’t it be great if the players of two teams decided to protest during the actual game by running the “kneel down” play for the ENTIRE GAME! I don’t know much about protesting but that seems like protesting gold IMO

  10. Considering that both black people and white people are injured in .08% of their encounters with police, that only 16 unarmed black people were killed by police (not even including violent resistance, etc) out of millions of encounters, and that white males are stopped more often by police, the entire point of this protest is nonsense.

  11. The country is divided. Black Lives Matter has done little or nothing to help their brothers and sisters in the wake of Harvey and Irma. Nothing. It’s a sham. Black Lives Matter have done nothing to help stop the violence among themselves in Chicago, Detroit and other crime-ridden cities. Black Lives Matter include some of the same men who walk out from their families leaving mom’s to work two and three jobs to support themselves and their children. The American Black communities need to “take the high road” and start improving their own situations themselves before continuing to blame white folks for their plight. I’m sick of hearing it. The family breakdown where 70% of black families are fatherless is the primary cause of their problems. People and the press are afraid to talk about it.

  12. Most Americans believe the danger to people of color at the hands of law enforcement is overblown sensationalism that occurred a handful of times and is not a National problem. It’s a media creation – which most “crisis” are.

  13. “But over time, Kaepernick’s intent was diluted and appropriated, sometimes by himself (by wearing sock depicting police as pigs, along with Fidel Castro t-shirts).”

    And that is the closest PFT has come to placing any responsibility for Kaepernick’s situation where it belongs.

  14. So movie stars aren’t going to make movies (yeah, right) because they don’t like the president and football players are going to bring light to social injustice by kneeling down. No and no.

  15. But when President Donald Trump spoke last weekend, hoping owners would fire any “son of a bitch” who knelt, the message changed dramatically.

    That’s not what he said but as expected the Ck/ Big Lie Movement apology tour (PFT) will say anything to support their cause. Why do you feel the need to spin instead of using accurate quotes?

  16. Never was about the American Flag or Military. How about everyone gets treated equally and Police stop shooting unarmed citizens. America is not what It use to be and we have a President in office who is not qualified to run it!

  17. If there’s one thing I’ve learned from PFT – if something offends someone, not everyone like say the name of a team – it should stop.

    In this case – it offends A LOT of people but PFT now says it should continue.

    I also don’t know why he’s concerned as a black man being pulled over by police. Statistics show and have shown – white people are shot and killed by LEO more than any other group.

  18. I hope NFL Players continue to protest and Kneel for the Anthem as long as its peaceful, I see NO PROBLEM AT ALL WITH IT. If you are a fan or Spectator and disapprove of it, BYE, Don’t watch it, you don’t have to. Get a life people, Grow UP. !

  19. “All he did is the right thing”? REALLY. Kap doesn’t have a job because HE OPTED OUT. He had a job with the 49ers, but chose to walk away and now he doesn’t have a job and it’s a social issue? NOT IN MY WORLD. Kap did THE WRONG THING. He opted out of a job and that’s on him. He has to own it. Who walks on $14,500,000.00?

  20. It must be tough to be an angry snowflake. After all, if the protestors are pro free-speech and anti-police shootings, then that makes the snowflakes anti-free speech and pro-police shootings! Furthermore, the snowflakes are led by the draft dodger in Chief who said he is anti-POW. Talk about indefensible positions!

    When you go to boycott the NFL, don’t let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya!

  21. Ask the average alt-right conservative, even here on PFT, and they couldn’t tell you WHY the protests started. They’ve been successfully brainwashed by far right wing talk shows who have spread the message that the black players are only being “disrespectful” to the flag. Period.

    Did Trump even once mention WHY they were protesting? No. Has Rush or Hannity? Never.

  22. Whatever happens from here that iconic image of Villanueva standing alone for National anthem while his teammates stayed in the tunnel will haunt the NFL for a long time. It was a PR disaster and effectively shut down any cause Kapernick was championing.

  23. Not sure why people think that wanting justice for all is a bad thing. That flag you people love and supposedly respect so much? The pledge of allegiance to is states “with liberty and justice for ALL”.

    Its good thing to want that. The players have taken a controversial way of delivering that message, but no one should be against the message itself. If you are you have no idea what the flag is supposed to represent.

  24. Maybe what i say will be posted….you know freedom of speech.
    Rogers said “To start a conversation” now this.The conversation has been started long ago.
    Too me The protests are really cuz Trump opened his big mouth when this was dieing down. I like some things he does, but this is not one of them. However, the protests are against him. Why? Cuz this has been going on for over a year. People realize there is a problem and I believe the effort has been made to be aware of it(Police brutality). WHAT are you trying to accomplish by kneeling or protesting at this point??? Ok protest all this year and next….weeeeee! Guess what there are always going to be bad cops. So what is the real agenda? Because I truly am questioning what black people really want at this point? I get called a white supremacist czu I like Trump for the most part. Is it because you want Black Supremacy??? You know….projecting. Give us everything or we will protest!! lol
    It is starting to look like that

  25. The message is getting lost and it’s not by accident. People who are racist are ashamed of themselves, so they want to change the subject. That’s understandable. It’s just the way our brains work. Donald Trump is motivated to use this as a distraction to the horrible things he’s trying to ram through congress, so he’s hoping to divert our attention as long as we’re willing to go along. I think it’s time for all Americans to change the way we’re communicating. We seem to turn everything into a sound bite. The original message was about black people being shot by police, and Kaepernick wanted to make sure we all knew about it. Now that we all know about it, and seem to not give a hoot, the whole issue has changed. Now all the hidden racism is out in the open for everyone to see. The curtain has been pulled back, and everything is exposed. Some people can keep denying it, but everyone can see they’re lying. God bless America.

  26. Players are not protesting the flag, it has nothing to do with the American Flag. NFL Players are protesting Police Brutality and Social Injustice and they are doing it Peacefully. People need to stop saying players are disrespecting the flag because they are DEAD WRONG.

    Then they need to protest on their own time. And if they do, we have to look at the statistics on police brutality. If they are basing their knowledge on high profile cases that have already been ruled in court. Then they are wrong

  27. Did I miss something? Are NFL referees, coaches, equipment managers, or someone from the league office pulling over black men and shooting them? White players? Hispanic? Anyone at all?
    I understand he players’ rage over this issue. But they’re taking their protest to the wrong place. Their beef is not with the NFL, or the fans/customers who ultimately pay their salaries. Yet the damage they’re doing may take many years to overcome.
    If you really want to protest, do it on a street corner, or outside city hall, or at the police station. Run for office. Contact your congressman. Write a letter to the editor. But all that would be hard. You’d have to get off your butts and do something on your own time, which probably wouldn’t garner a fraction of the attention you’re getting now.
    No, it’s much easier to piggyback off the exposure of your employer, who offers a free national stage, a sympathetic media, and built-in publicity you couldn’t get anywhere else. You know it, and we know it.
    So far, owners have allowed this to continue because they don’t want to upset the players. But as fans begin leaving in droves they will have no alternative but to confront this, and it’s probably too late to undo the damage already done. It will get much worse before it gets better.
    As for you, objectivefootballfan, they may not be “protesting the flag,” but in choosing the anthem as the platform for their protest they are certainly disrespecting it. They’re also being dishonest by dragging their employer into their cause.by protesting something non-job-related while on the job.

  28. I can understand Casillas concerns, but do you think a police officer enjoys walking up to a driver’s side window – whether the driver is black, white, Hispanic, Asian or other?

    What do you think goes thru his mind?

  29. Casillas is right, this is about cops who fail to “Protect and Serve” but rather “Harass and Intimidate”.This happens more in the black community but it is a police problem as much as a race problem.

  30. objectivefootballfan says:
    September 29, 2017 at 10:56 am
    Players are not protesting the flag, it has nothing to do with the American Flag. NFL Players are protesting Police Brutality and Social Injustice and they are doing it Peacefully. People need to stop saying players are disrespecting the flag because they are DEAD WRONG.
    ——————————-

    “I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color,” Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. “To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder”

    Colin Kaepernick
    August 2016

  31. hey jonathan, try being a white male driving between 11pm-2am, you are super prone to being stopped for a DUI check. Me being Asian male, i have been pulled over a lot, i dont complain, i just go with it and go about my day. You should try it to. The police isnt the problem, its your race, who kills black people more than anything in the world, its not the police, its the black man. Once your group of people get themselves in check, then you will see the police start to back off. But until then you will continue to be harassed, don’t get mad at the police, get mad at your own people.

  32. The folks who think fans are doing something wrong by getting angry about this: you should step back and ask yourself “Why do people protest?”

    The purpose of a protest is to make people angry and make them uncomfortable. They choose to kneel during the playing of the national anthem specifically because it elicits this response out of people. Protesting during the national anthem and then ridiculing people for being mad about it makes no sense. If nobody cared, nobody would notice. If nobody noticed, it wouldn’t be worth doing.

    The options for the players right now are simple:

    1) Continue kneeling and accept the fact that the blowback they receive from doing so is the ENTIRE purpose of this act.
    2) Understand that the blowback from this is hurting the NFL (and thus will be impacting their future salaries) and pick a different way to push a social justice agenda.

    I don’t hate the players who are kneeling, but the act of staging any kind of protest during our national anthem is inherently disrespectful. If I slap you in the face, it hurts, right? So what if I slapped you in the face but then I said “Hey, don’t get mad at me. I’m only slapping you in the face as a protest for racial inequality.” It doesn’t matter what your intent is if the act you’re performing is inherently hurtful/disrespectful.

    As we are all taught over and over in our lives, “perception is reality.”

  33. Of course it has been lost. Last weekend, players kneeled because they were angry that Donald Trump said they should be fired for doing so. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Sorry, but that’s reality. It’s a simple show of defiance at this point.

    It was an act of “defiance” all along. It was defiantly drawing attention to a systemic problem. The systemic problem is within law enforcement. Law enforcement is an extension of the government. Donald Trump is the face of American government.

    When he got up at his “rally” (or whatever those are called) and basically said “sit down and shut up, American citizens!” he threw gas on a fire. Creating chaos is the only thing the president actually succeeds at.

  34. …could care less (and definitely could not care more) about your protest…didn’t watch Thursday night game, won’t watch out of country games, won’t watch Sunday night games or Monday night games. Watch the Red Zone and they don’t show the anthem being played…may not renew Red Zone next year (on the fence)…life goes on…

  35. Typical of clown SJWs. They think kneeling will change things. Maybe a hashtag next, right guys? If these rich men actually cared, the players would set up a charity that creates after school programs for children in violent neighborhoods to keep them out of gangs and away from drugs. The police brutality stems from the Police seeing the crime stats and the majority of violent crime (especially murder) is committed by 6.5% of the population (black men), so they feel justified in their actions. If the highly paid players start by donating $500k-$1m, the other players will follow. Make a positive impact for the future and hopefully the negative stats will decrease. Keep kneeling and hashtag-ing, then keep expecting the same results.

  36. when you’re protesting about inequality in a league that’s disproportionated black & in a day & age where there are no restrictions put on minorities as to what they can achieve…your message will fall on deaf ears just as it has

  37. The ORIGINAL intent, by Colon Crapperneck, was to NOT honor a flag that represented “racisim and oppression” to people of color. That’s why so many people are PO’d about this sham of a protest.

  38. Aug. 26 … in an NFL for com article titled Kapernikick explains why he sat for national anthem…

    “I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color,”
    – Colin Kaepernick

    Not one mention of police brutality in this quote…

    If you wanted to protest Smoking cigarette or child prostitution … would you do it in front of a McDonald’s or Home Depot parking lot?…

    If you want to protest police brutality…do it in front of the guilty police station…if you want to protest abortion…do it in front of an abortion clinic…if you want to protest the flag and national anthem…do it during the national anthem…why isn’t this common sense? Seriously?

  39. Jonathan is absolutely correct. HOW HARD IS THIS! There are plenty of people who would support the cause. But when you protect is a way that offends half your audience you’re robbing yourself of that many more potential supporters. The players shot themselves in the foot. NOBODY is talking about racism. The debate is now focused on patriotism. The right voices started using the wrong platform. Your message has almost been completely buried.

  40. it’s already lost because it was rudderless to begin with.

    Kaepernick had an impulse (fueled by a raging psychotic girlfriend) and followed that impulse but didn’t have the brains or gumption to follow it through and instead became a symbol for whatever injustice people feel like throwing out there.

  41. The league and players are backtracking. Looks like they’re realizing they’re in a bubble and majority of Americans are fed up with the identity politics crap. I watch football for football. If I wanted this millionaire victimhood crap I’d watch The View.

  42. If groups of people can perceive that confederate statues are disrespectful to blacks, then, sitting kneeling during the anthem can be perceived as disrespectful to a large number of fans. Regardless of what the players think it is about disrespecting the flag, anthem!

  43. Yes, only people of color get singled out by police.

    Police only wrongly killed people of color.

    Police only profile people of color.

    These laws were ONLY created by white people, not people of color.

    This seems to be what people actually think.

    What ignorance.

    The fact remains, that every race, color, and creed had a hand in creating our situation, enforcing the situation, and suffering.

    The needless divisive focus on race is ludicrous. It’s always been about policy. Policy that is negatively effecting EVERYONE.

    The protestors are ignorant, act ignorant, and the intent wasn’t lost, it was always screwed up and wrong to begin with.

    Kaepernick has only done the right thing? Yes, by championing rioters, terrorist sympathizers, giving money to these morons, wearing fidel castro shirts, pigs socks, and being a divisive moron whose actions betray his ignorant goal because he’s looking through everything from a psycho racist lens.

    Yes antagonizing America is the best way to make change? What idiots.

    Trump’s words were counterproductive, but this isn’t about him, it’s about moron players being ignorant and using the flag as a wedge during a football game. Trump called it out. These ignorant fools went ballistic, because the owners couldn’t risk mutiny for the situation they let fester, and the players rallied around other players, even if it was protecting ignorance.

  44. objectivefootballfan says:
    September 29, 2017 at 11:13 am

    I hope NFL Players continue to protest and Kneel for the Anthem as long as its peaceful, I see NO PROBLEM AT ALL WITH IT. If you are a fan or Spectator and disapprove of it, BYE, Don’t watch it, you don’t have to. Get a life people, Grow UP. !

    ________________________________

    The ignorance displayed by this post is exactly why we have division in this country.

  45. I don’t hate the players who are kneeling, but the act of staging any kind of protest during our national anthem is inherently disrespectful. If I slap you in the face, it hurts, right? So what if I slapped you in the face but then I said “Hey, don’t get mad at me. I’m only slapping you in the face as a protest for racial inequality.” It doesn’t matter what your intent is if the act you’re performing is inherently hurtful/disrespectful.

    Except…it’s not “inherently hurtful” unless you’re someone who values the SYMBOLS of a country more than the RIGHTS imbued to all citizens.

    No one is feeling pain over this. No soldier is weaker because Delanie Walker kneeled at a football game. No veteran is going hungry today because Doug Baldwin didn’t stand during a song. I don’t know a single veteran who is angry about these protests. Every one I’ve heard from, in fact, is baffled by the controversy and the quickness with which people have co-opted a protest about police misconduct into an indictment of the military.

    It’s preposterous. The flag is not more important than your rights. The national anthem is not more important than your rights.

    You know what’s disrespectful? Racism. Police misconduct. Death threats. Those things *actually* affect people in tangible ways. Kneeling football players do not.

  46. I feel like I’m seeing the same headlines over and over and over and over with different names in them. This is driving me crazy

  47. I’m so tired of people saying the players are not protesting the flag. Of course they are. Read what Kaepernick said when he started kneeling — he said I refuse to STAND FOR THE FLAG of a country that is evil and kills minorities. If it isn’t about the flag, then why are they kneeling during the anthem, and not at a police station. They ARE protesting the flag and America.

  48. Trump did this to strengthen his base and it worked. He was able to get a lot more people on his side by turning them against the NFL. The players played right into his hands. They could have showed class and ignored him, and continue to respect the flag and our vets but they didnt. I hope they enjoy being used by Trump to make himself stronger because thats what happened.

  49. It may be best to frame the current #NFL protests, as President Donald Trump vs. the Constitution, which he thinks should be ignored. he feels his power supersedes civil liberties guaranteed by that great document.

    Just how important is Freedom of Speech and the right to protest? The founding fathers, thought it so important, that they addressed it first in the Constitution. Trump’s ignorance or arrogance intentionally distorts the issue.

    Most of these players are American citizens. With that comes the Constitutional right to protest. Call it what it is: Trump vs. Constitution.

  50. sparty0n says:
    September 29, 2017 at 11:42 am
    objectivefootballfan says:
    September 29, 2017 at 11:13 am

    I hope NFL Players continue to protest and Kneel for the Anthem as long as its peaceful, I see NO PROBLEM AT ALL WITH IT. If you are a fan or Spectator and disapprove of it, BYE, Don’t watch it, you don’t have to. Get a life people, Grow UP. !

    ________________________________

    The ignorance displayed by this post is exactly why we have division in this country.

    That person said “I hope these American citizens exercise their right to peaceful protest, if they want to. If you don’t like it, you don’t have to watch them.”

    So…you don’t really know what the word “ignorance” means, do you?

  51. I find it kind of ironic that black people are complaining unfair treatment by law enforcement when they have absolutely no issue with joining gangs & killing each other & really don’t care about the collateral damage they cause to the innocent bystanders as a result of those actions…..
    I don’t envy the police & the job they have to do while risking their lives on a daily basis…. are there some bad apples, Sure, there are in EVERY ASPECT/PROFFESSION in life, & all these “VIDEOS” of so called perceived injustices
    Don’t help as most that I have seen are only catching the back end of the confrontation without what happened prior to the video starting……
    Bottom line, life is not always fair & pretty much ANYONE can cry about injustices no matter what their race creed or color…..there’s just not enough love in the world & that’s a sad fact….& yes I hope that changes soon…
    I watch football to be entertained…NOT for political statements & perceived social injustices in society as a whole that, in turn, translate to disrespecting our flag & country…..America is not perfect, no place is….however, if you think life is greener someplace elseplease feel free to go there & take your disrespecting actions with you!!!

  52. Of course the meaning has been lost. And that’s on the players and the media. For the players it can mean racial inequity or police brutality or anti-America or support for their teammates or just plain defiance to the POTUS who called them unnecessary names. And for the media, it’s become a daily game of click-bait inducing headlines and flame fanning to keep this story going.

    I literally have no idea the purpose at this point.

  53. Kaepernick: I’m gonna draw attention to racism in this country.
    PFT commenters: OH, I DON’T *THINK* SO, BRO! STAND UP AND SHUT UP!

    How’s the lunch counter at Walgreens, guys?

  54. thetooloftools says:
    September 29, 2017 at 11:14 am

    “All he did is the right thing”? REALLY. Kap doesn’t have a job because HE OPTED OUT. He had a job with the 49ers, but chose to walk away and now he doesn’t have a job and it’s a social issue? NOT IN MY WORLD. Kap did THE WRONG THING. He opted out of a job and that’s on him. He has to own it. Who walks on $14,500,000.00?
    —————————–

    He didn’t walk away from $14,500,000.00. Why do people keep posting this lie?

    He was never going to get that money, because he was going to get released.

  55. mmack66 says:
    He didn’t walk away from $14,500,000.00. Why do people keep posting this lie?
    He was never going to get that money, because he was going to get released.
    ++

    It’s probably true that Colin Kaepernick would have been released by the 49ers. At least that what they said after the fact, and it probably made good financial sense.
    But you have no way of knowing if they actually would have done it or not, or that they wouldn’t have at least tried to get him to renegotiate to a lower but decent salary in voiding his current deal.
    Either way, the only undisputable fact here is that Kaepernick opted out BEFORE the 49ers had a chance to move on or change their minds and keep him, therefore it is not technically a lie.

  56. Maybe if people are “misinterpreting” your intent, you should reconsider the method of your protest. Maybe you’re doing a poor job of communicating it, and picked the wrong means to convey your message.

  57. “Kap doesn’t have a job because HE OPTED OUT. He had a job with the 49ers, but chose to walk away”

    The 9ers told him he would be cut as you almost certainly know. He simply opted out because it gave him more time in the preseason to try and catch on with another team.

  58. He didn’t walk away from $14,500,000.00. Why do people keep posting this lie?

    He was never going to get that money, because he was going to get released.
    ——————————————————————————
    He also has done little to help himself. He’s been largely silent until the past 10 days about his desire and readiness to play. He’s sat back and let this kerfuffle escalate. He’s let every one else (i.e. Spike Lee, PFT, etc) speak for him.
    I literally don’t think he’s all that interested in playing versus sitting back and playing martyr.

  59. I am mixed race, I know the south fought for slavery, it’s in their articles of confederation.. I can see why their Flag can be considered racist symbol, but now the current Flag is now a symbol of oppression and police brutality? Do they know that 620000 white union soldiers died to end slavery carrying that flag minus a few stars? They make millions of dollars, and out of all the things that they can do in show of protest is take a knee? I know some military veterans told Colin, that he could just take a knee, but I know quite a few that says that dishonors those that passed. Villanueva didn’t run out of that tunnel for nothing, many veterans told him to get his booty out there.

  60. lol @ willycents. If only I could live the life of ex-presidential luxury. I would be on someone’s yacht and not posting here.

    Sidenote, I almost upvoted your comment purely off the hilarity. It was good man.

  61. Racism does exist, and those instances should be rectified, but after a while, when every time something happens, the cry of racism is shouted from the rooftops, many people tune out. Take for instance, the now famous video of the woman ranting/raving about the service dog in the restaurant…after she saw how ignorant she looked, guess what, she now claims it was all over racist comments (a complete fabrication).

    They claim, by definition, that minorities can’t be racist, but the fact is, hate and prejudice don’t know what color your skin is.

  62. He’s totally right. It’s almost as if this was planned to defang the whole movement, but that would be giving Trump too much credit.

  63. We all have problems and the first thing we should do is look at our own behavior before pointing the finger at others. Nobody should attack someone just because they have a different opinion. I think Casillas is misguided in his conclusions but I respect him and his opinion.

  64. Casillas is right about one thing. He won’t be a football player all his life. In fact he will still be a relatively young man when he finishes up in the NFL, whenever that is. Kaepernick is already unemployed. It occurs to me if they really see police brutality as the problem we are told then why don’t they start new careers as cops once they leave the NFL? They could get jobs wherever they think the worst areas of brutality are. They are big, strong, young, and certainly able to do police work. I would have a ton of respect for any of them that did something like that.

  65. objectivefootballfan says:

    Players are not protesting the flag, it has nothing to do with the American Flag. NFL Players are protesting Police Brutality and Social Injustice and they are doing it Peacefully. People need to stop saying players are disrespecting the flag because they are DEAD WRONG.
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    Kaep’s original quote: “I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color”

    Who is DEAD WRONG?

  66. Kaep’s original quote: “I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color”

    Who is DEAD WRONG?

    The flag represents the country, genius. Kaep was protesting the state of affairs in the United States, a real place with real citizens and real rights — not just a cloth.

  67. If protests…err…acts of unification NOT about the anthem and the flag, then why are they happening DURING the anthem? If you can answer that…..

    Because the anthem is only point in the game where we recognize our country. It’s a political/civic moment shoehorned into a sporting event. If you’re okay mixing sports with politics in the first place, what is your problem with Kaep taking a knee?

    Be honest…there is NO act of protest Colin Kaepernick could wage that you (and many like you) would find acceptable. If you can admit to that…

  68. I hope that when TV contracts are next bid the networks offer less money to televise the games. That will mean the cap will go down and the players will get hit in their wallets. Then they might wake up.

  69. Tim Buttrum says:
    September 29, 2017 at 11:23 am

    This kneeling trend has about as much credibility as the ice bucket challenge.
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    Quote of the year award goes to Tim Buttrum.

  70. anytime I say ANYTHING that the leftists don’t agree with, I’m a bigot. This is ridiculous. Perhaps if Kaepernick ever voted, I’d show a modicum of sympathy to the movement. However, right now, all you punks are trying to do is ruin my football and I do NOT appreciate your efforts.

  71. tonyzendejas says:
    September 29, 2017 at 2:12 pm

    If protests…err…acts of unification NOT about the anthem and the flag, then why are they happening DURING the anthem? If you can answer that…..

    Because the anthem is only point in the game where we recognize our country. It’s a political/civic moment shoehorned into a sporting event. If you’re okay mixing sports with politics in the first place, what is your problem with Kaep taking a knee?

    Be honest…there is NO act of protest Colin Kaepernick could wage that you (and many like you) would find acceptable. If you can admit to that…
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    When in the world did standing for the national anthem at a football game to recognize our country become political??? As an aside, I hate coconut. if Colin protested coconut I’d be right there with him.

  72. it was to protest the unfair treatment of minorities by law enforcement.
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    False narrative. Mainstream media blew it way out of proportion

  73. objectivefootballfan says:
    September 29, 2017 at 10:56 am

    Players are not protesting the flag, it has nothing to do with the American Flag. NFL Players are protesting Police Brutality and Social Injustice and they are doing it Peacefully. People need to stop saying players are disrespecting the flag because they are DEAD WRONG.
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    This was the first sentence out of Kaepernick’s mouth when he decided to sit during the preseason in 2016, “I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color.”

    You were saying?

  74. tjacks7 says:
    September 29, 2017 at 11:06 am
    Considering that both black people and white people are injured in .08% of their encounters with police, that only 16 unarmed black people were killed by police (not even including violent resistance, etc) out of millions of encounters, and that white males are stopped more often by police, the entire point of this protest is nonsense.
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    A – EFFING – MEN!!
    There are no statistics to support “police brutality” with African-Americans. The fact that there is a higher proportion of African-Americans being arrested and incarcerated is because there’s a higher proportion of crimes being committed in their communities. Why is that? That’s the question that needs to be answered, and action taken…how can we improve urban neighborhoods, their schools, dismantle gangs, etc.?? Those crying about social justice, equality and blaming the police please just stop, and let’s all work together (and in some instances look in the mirror) to find a solution to these problems.

  75. guyjuneguyjune says:
    September 29, 2017 at 11:06 am
    The country is divided. Black Lives Matter has done little or nothing to help their brothers and sisters in the wake of Harvey and Irma. Nothing. It’s a sham. Black Lives Matter have done nothing to help stop the violence among themselves in Chicago, Detroit and other crime-ridden cities. Black Lives Matter include some of the same men who walk out from their families leaving mom’s to work two and three jobs to support themselves and their children. The American Black communities need to “take the high road” and start improving their own situations themselves before continuing to blame white folks for their plight. I’m sick of hearing it. The family breakdown where 70% of black families are fatherless is the primary cause of their problems. People and the press are afraid to talk about it.

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    THIS……TIMES 1,000. Well said, friend.

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