Patriots contend overheard conversation fueled touchdown pass

AP

An interesting postscript has emerged following New England’s closer-than-expected win over the Texans.

Via Aaron Wilson of the Houston Chronicle, Patriots coach Bill Belichick contends that a touchdown pass from quarterback Tom Brady to receiver Chris Hogan happened after offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels overheard an on-field conversation between Texans cornerback Jonathan Joseph and safety Andre Hal.

“This is kind of a key part of the play right here is Hal and Joseph talking about this afterwards,” Belichick explained during a film review following the game. “Josh McDaniels did a great job of picking this up and seeing this and I think Hal was telling Joseph the next time they do this, ‘You are going to trap and I’m going to go over the top,’ and all that. . . . So rather than waiting until that happened, we ran this play again. It’s a little bit of a different look, because this time the back is in the backfield, but it’s the same idea.”

Joseph disputes that loose lips sank the Texans ship.

“I read that and heard something about it,” Joseph said Friday, per Wilson. “I don’t know if there’s any facts to it or if it’s correct. I think I know that one particular play they’re talking about, and we weren’t in that same particular coverage. So that’s why the two stories don’t match up together.”

The touchdown was still surrendered, regardless of whether there was eavesdropping or not. And since it was the Patriots, some will call it something other than what it was — two players communicating openly and someone on the sideline paying attention to it.

19 responses to “Patriots contend overheard conversation fueled touchdown pass

  1. Raiders in the Snow Game did the same thing to the Patriots. From Wikipedia: “With 1:50 left, Raiders cornerback Eric Allen, while lurking at the Patriots’ sideline, heard Brady’s talk with Weis. Allen stated that he heard the Patriots’ play call. He then rushed to his sideline and told his team what he had heard.”

  2. Everyone on or off the field must always be alert and paying attention to everything because you never know when it’s going to help your team

  3. I saw the footage from this video. I got the impression that they got it from the tape not from hearing the guys talk.

  4. BS, I did not question it until now. Have you heard a conversation 20 feet from you anytime in a football stadium? My question is why lie about studying? They are covering up something more mischievious than “overhearing strategy”.

  5. I suggest everyone watch Do Your Job (2014) and Do Your Job 2 (2016) for an insight in how smart the Patriots are. It is often the difference between winning and losing. Examples are that they practiced the goal line pick play D the week of the Seahawks game. Butler failed in practice so Browner and Butler recognized the pick formation and adjusted (press for Browner and sprint to the ball for Butler) That defensive play was not an accident. No one in America expected that call, but the Patriots were ready for it.

  6. I’m a Cowboys fan but you have to appreciate what the Patriots have done. Their accomplishment in the salary cap era makes them the greatest franchise in sports history. Patriot fans are spoiled, every year they can be counted on to at least have a legitimate chance to win the Super Bowl. A time will come when that’s not the case so enjoy it while you can.

    That said, you have to assume BB had a reason for saying this. I’m sure overhearing a conversation is common in the league so why mention it now? It gains him something for sure.

  7. I suggest everyone watch Do Your Job (2014) and Do Your Job 2 (2016) for an insight in how smart the Patriots are. It is often the difference between winning and losing.
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    Sure.

    I’ll put it on the list next to frontal lobotomy and half-past never.

    Life is too short to watch Patriot football.

  8. 12 is reason they are great. Nothing more nothing less.. all this huff and puff about the Patriot way is garbage. When 12 is gone its over. I would never bet against 12 or 16. Transcendent players that make good teams great. Wait and see. The end is coming and when it does the Pats will be just like everyone else.

    Until then they are favorites for the big game every year. Enjoy it.

  9. Bill Billichek has how many SB’s without 12? He didnt have a bad team in Cleveland but he didnt have 12 what happened there? Did he just invent his way of coaching when he got to New England? NO! He has 12. I love the guy he is amazing but he can’t play forever. Start looking for the next guy because Jimmy aint it.

  10. Outsmarting a team does not mean the Patriots cheated. Moral of the story: don’t have a conversation withing earshot of the opposition’s sideline. I’m sure that they weren’t whispering since they were in a stadium.

  11. crackbubba says:
    September 30, 2017 at 10:47 pm

    BS, I did not question it until now. Have you heard a conversation 20 feet from you anytime in a football stadium? My question is why lie about studying? They are covering up something more mischievious than “overhearing strategy”.
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    17 years of domination, 5 SBs, utterly consistent performance and people are still looking for some magic reason? Here’s a secret: It’s that coach on the sideline and that guy in the #12 jersey.

  12. Bill Billichek has how many SB’s without 12? He didnt have a bad team in Cleveland but he didnt have 12 what happened there?
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    Started the foundation of a Super Bowl winner, and one of the greatest defenses of this era.. ’99 Ravens.

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