Lions win hard-fought NFC North contest in Minnesota

AP

The Lions and Vikings have a knack for playing close games, and the Lions have a knack for coming out on top.

Just as they did in both meetings between the two teams last year, the Lions won a hard-fought game against the Vikings today, 14-7.

It wasn’t always pretty from either team, as both offensive lines struggled to protect their quarterbacks. Matthew Stafford was sacked six times, while Case Kennum was sacked twice and pressured several other times.

Both teams got good games from their running backs Detroit’s Ameer Abdullah and Minnesota’s Dalvin Cook, but both runners got hurt in the second half and did not return. That’s a major concern for both teams going forward.

The Vikings appeared poised for a game-tying drive in the final minutes, but an Adam Thielen fumble was recovered by the Lions, sealing Detroit’s win. The Lions’ defense has improved significantly over last year when it comes to forcing turnovers, and they did it at the right time today.

The win gave the Lions a 3-1 record and helped them keep pace with the Packers in the competitive NFC North. The Vikings fall to 2-2.

92 responses to “Lions win hard-fought NFC North contest in Minnesota

  1. With the game hanging in the balance, clutch Adelaide Thielan fumbled in the clutch. I think he’s more prone to that because he’s actually from Loserville.

  2. The Lions were the better team, but Vikings D is probably the best in the NFL right now. Lions D isn’t too shabby either.

  3. Back at .500 and third place. All is right again. It’s a shame that Cook got hurt though. I remember in the story about Montgomery having broken ribs, some MN fans called him and the team soft. I won’t return that favor and will only say I hope both players are back in two weeks.

  4. Tough road win for Detroit. The loss of Abdullah is concerning. Stafford hasn’t had a 100 yard RB take the pressure off him since Thanksgiving 2013!!!

  5. Props to the Lions for doing what they should have done, take advantage of the turnovers. The Vikes had 3 of them, and the Lions converted them into 11 points. You take that away, the Vikes win. So props to the Lions.

    GB fans are only on here talking their usual smack because now they know they have 2 legitimate threats in the division while their QB and WR group is getting old. They stunk for 20+ years in the 70’s and 80’s, and that will happen again in the next 3-5 years. So enjoy it while you can, because we all know that when they start having bad season after bad season, the “fans” will bail on them again.

  6. The Packers better be on notice. They can’t beat the D of either the Lions or Vikings. They are ONE player ONLY: Aaron Rodgers. Get Im by the ribs, head, and knees Lions and Vikings.

  7. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again… Mike Zimmer is not HC material. Luckily, because Spielman is such a good GM the Vikings will be in the postseason where the NFC looks very, very weak.

  8. Ponytail Girl says:
    October 1, 2017 at 4:38 pm

    The Packers better be on notice. They can’t beat the D of either the Lions or Vikings. They are ONE player ONLY: Aaron Rodgers. Get Im by the ribs, head, and knees Lions and Vikings.
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    Look, Dalvin, I’m sorry you got hurt today but the Packers had nothing to do with it.

  9. Tough game, but the Vikings have two easy divisional games on the horizon and should have their starting QB back soon. It’s good to be a Vikings fan.

  10. Brutal game, big hits, tons of injuries, lots of physical secondary play. The loss of both starting RBs just made it worse.

    Turnovers were the key and the Vikes couldn’t handle the ball cleanly today. Should be a great rematch in Detroit.

  11. We just can’t catch a break!!! Some missed calls but , if you can’t convert when you need to that’s on you. Missed fg 3 fumbles. You won’t win like that. Sucks for the defense. Probably going to wear down like last yr. 40 yrs and counting for me. Smh

  12. Same old story in the week to week battle with the officials. In this game they “let them play” by not calling any penalties where they obviously should have. Even the announcers noticed and commented on it. So next week a different set of officials will call the game the exact opposite. Officiating determines who wins and loses games. Simple….call it the same, everywhere against anyone every time. Shouldn’t be that tough to do. Very tough to watch this junk.

  13. Despite the ref’s trying their best to hand this one to the Vikings, the real reason they lost is because the players quit on Zimmer. Just plain quit.

  14. Considering how banged up the Lions’ O-Line is, I’m surprised. Stafford sacked 7 times didn’t surprise me. He was not himself today, and you could tell. Who can be when you’re dodging or getting hit by the best pass rush in the league? Credit to his toughness and poise for hanging in there.

    That said, Austin’s D from the D is BACK, baby. Not too many sacks but plenty of bend-but-don’t-break and turnover-generating maneuvers. What’d they take away, 4? That’s incredible. I gotta go look up what they have on the year, but I don’t remember seeing anything like this in terms of takeaways in Detroit. Ever.

    The cheeseheads can run their mouths all they want. As far as I’m concerned, they’re the ones who have to prove it this year. Four weeks from today, everyone will get their chance.

  15. Stellarperformance what game were you watching? Take your win. Yall lil crybabies last week talking about the refs cost you the game well this week they helped give it back. Horrible no calls but hey their was other opportunities we let get away. Your 3-1 tied for first why you worried about the Vikings. Team quit! You sound foolish

  16. It amazes me how the Vikings lost to the Lions, are about to face a hungry Bears team that is playing much better than their record indicates, yet all the purples can do is comment about the Packers.

  17. Don’t like losing but it’s part of the game. but when there are three holding penalties in a row vs Detroit not beingcalled by any referee and TV announcers are also acknowledging them it makes you wonder.

  18. Lions fan here – sorry to see Abdullah get dinged up late – I think he had 94 yards rushing, it would have been nice to get him 6 more yards and get that 100 yard rushing monkey off Detroit’s back.
    Also, Taylor Decker cannot get back too soon! Robinson gets beaten like a drum by every DT and DE that lines up across from him.
    On to the Panthers!

  19. Listen I’m a lions fan. There were bad calls in this game yes but you lose the turnover battle by 3 and you will lose. Not much else to say. You win the turnover battle by 3 and you will win most weeks. Vikings offense was really handled by Lions D. And Lions offense at least took care of the football against a tough D.

    I still hold to the belief that GB owns this division until Detroit can prove otherwise. Should be a good Monday night in lambeau and week 17 in Detroit should have some implications as well

  20. Vikings defense could not have done any better. Didn’t allow a single TD to the highest paid QB, and only 1 TD allowed after offense gave up 3 turnovers. But the Vikings offense was just plain bad. Hey, this is the type of offense you get with a backup QB, and now probably losing your starting RB for the rest of the year.

  21. stellarperformance says:
    October 1, 2017 at 4:57 pm
    Despite the ref’s trying their best to hand this one to the Vikings, the real reason they lost is because the players quit on Zimmer. Just plain quit.
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    The stupidity of your comment doesn’t surprise me. It’s what you do. But the fact that almost everybody liked it is quite perplexing.

  22. don’t turn the ball over and you usually win. gave the game away. the players didnt quit though you simple minded cheeseheads.

  23. carlpanzramwasatypicalminnesotan says:
    October 1, 2017 at 4:49 pm
    See Contra complaining about the refs?

    The only reason the Vikings have ever lost a game is because the refs screwed them.

    This is why nobody–and I mean literally nobody–respects Vikings fans.
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    The announcers pointed out the bad refereeing and numerous defensive holds, not Vikings fans.

  24. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    October 1, 2017 at 5:11 pm
    It amazes me how the Vikings lost to the Lions, are about to face a hungry Bears team that is playing much better than their record indicates, yet all the purples can do is comment about the Packers.
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    You sure you even read the comments here? I do see a few Vikings fans pointing out that making fun a hurt player by Packer fans is classless. But other than that, most appear to actually be talking about the game. You should give it a try some time.

  25. golforepar says:
    October 1, 2017 at 5:03 pm
    Vikings fans blame the refs lmao That is hilarious! Score more than 7!!
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    Easier to score without defensive backs holding and interfering with 4-5 passes.

  26. I didn’t say in my comments earlier that the vikes lost because of the refs, as our packer trolls assume. My point is the inconsistency of officiating in the NFL in all games. Call the penalties the same all the time on every team and player, then no one can complain.

  27. ad28bestever says:
    October 1, 2017 at 4:35 pm

    GB fans are only on here talking their usual smack because now they know they have 2 legitimate threats in the division while their QB and WR group is getting old. They stunk for 20+ years in the 70’s and 80’s, and that will happen again in the next 3-5 years. So enjoy it while you can, because we all know that when they start having bad season after bad season, the “fans” will bail on them again.
    —————————-
    Without a doubt, this has to be my favorite sad and whiny refrain from the Barney fans.
    “Your team sucked 30 years ago, and sometime in the future, your team is going to suck again!”
    Thanks, Nostrodamus.
    Dry your tears on your annual 3rd place commemorative towel.
    skoLOL!

    And as far as Packer fans bailing on their team, Lambeau has sold out since the 1960 season and will continue to do so.
    Sold out and supported through some horrible teams, terrible games, leading to dreadful seasons.
    I know because I’ve been through them all.

  28. The lions had 6 penalties for 60 yards to the Vikes 2 penalties for 10 yards.

    Yet Vikings fans are here blaming the refs for the lose. Unbelievably pathetic

  29. wafflestomp says:
    October 1, 2017 at 5:35 pm

    ….from the Barney fans…
    ////////////
    You’ve been trying for ages to get this name to stick. Literally nobody uses it. Give it up. It’s childish. But mostly, it’s just dumb.

  30. Frum Slum says:
    October 1, 2017 at 5:40 pm
    The lions had 6 penalties for 60 yards to the Vikes 2 penalties for 10 yards.

    Yet Vikings fans are here blaming the refs for the lose. Unbelievably pathetic
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    You didn’t actually watch the game, did you?

  31. It’s amazing how low packer fans can stoop. They take pleasure in seeing players they see as a threat getting hurt. There’s something truly disturbing about that.
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    Please copy and paste one post in this comment section where a packer fan took pleasure in Cook getting hurt. Did you make that post before you read the comments?

  32. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    October 1, 2017 at 5:11 pm

    It amazes me how the Vikings lost to the Lions, are about to face a hungry Bears team that is playing much better than their record indicates, yet all the purples can do is comment about the Packers.

    ____________

    As much as it amazes you how many Packer trolls come on here a bash the Vikings? Take off your blinders every once in a while.

  33. conormacleod says:
    October 1, 2017 at 5:41 pm
    Frum Slum says:
    October 1, 2017 at 5:40 pm
    The lions had 6 penalties for 60 yards to the Vikes 2 penalties for 10 yards.

    Yet Vikings fans are here blaming the refs for the lose. Unbelievably pathetic
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    You didn’t actually watch the game, did you?

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    No just followed online and watching redzone. That’s a huge disparity in penalties yards. What did I miss that would explain how the somehow helped the Lions win?

  34. That was a fun came even though the Vikings lost. No player from either team quit on their coach and left the stadium during the game and for some reason at the end of the first half they showed a drunk with cheese on his head causing problems in the stands.

  35. Question for the packers trolls. You lose your love Aaron Rodgers and your backup plays against the lions do you lose by 7? We lost ok 2-2 . Listen to most of y’all this was week 17 and the packers won the division. Trolling every article about the vikings when they lose but not to be found when they win or you lose. Go drink some more and go to bed.

  36. Very difficult to win a game when you commit that many turn-overs. It could have been a very different game minus the turn-over swing.

    Holding the Lions to a single TD is an accomplishment for the Vikings D in itself- especially with the turn-overs. The Vikings O needed to step up and hold onto the dang ball. Not sure how different the game would have been with Bradford in there.

    Looking forward tp the rematch in Detroit. Hopefully both teams have their starting RBs back. Cheers!

  37. conormacleod says:
    October 1, 2017 at 5:23 pm
    The Almighty Cabbage says:
    October 1, 2017 at 5:11 pm
    It amazes me how the Vikings lost to the Lions, are about to face a hungry Bears team that is playing much better than their record indicates, yet all the purples can do is comment about the Packers.

    //////
    You sure you even read the comments here? I do see a few Vikings fans pointing out that making fun a hurt player by Packer fans is classless. But other than that, most appear to actually be talking about the game. You should give it a try some time.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    You never have been big on the facts. There’s lots of whining about the Packers in this thread… as there always is. But NOW, after I call you and your little purple brethren out on it, you want to talk about the game? Excellent. Let’s do that. The Vikings lost and they looked like a real clown show doing it. The defense was decent but that’s it. The offense and special teams were flat terrible.

    Your biggest problem today was Mike Zimmer. 4th and goal on the 14 and he goes for it, down by 7, with over 2 minutes to go? What, he no longer trusts his “vaunted” defense? He burns TWO timeouts trying to get a 5 yard penalty, when they needed well more than 5 to convert? Move over Tice, Childress and Frazier… Mike Zimmer’s coming to town.

    Shurmur (your great Savior) calls for his goofy Wildcat nonsense when Keenum FINALLY got a little bit of a rhythm going… which resulted in a fumble (of course). Talk about a back breaker.

    This loss was squarely on the coaching staff, although the offensive players could spend a little more time on football, specifically ball security, and a little less time and effort on their hokey celebrations. Especially Diggs. Every catch, he finds the nearest camera to jaw at while he gyrates wildly… all while his team is losing. The perfect Minnesota Viking.

  38. And as far as Packer fans bailing on their team, Lambeau has *sold out since the 1960 season and will continue to do so.

    *with the occasional help of TV stations to buy out the remaining tickets at the blackout deadline.

  39. mistyzhang says:
    October 1, 2017 at 6:04 pm
    Penalties

    Lions 6-60
    Vikings 2-10

    ____________

    Okay- I’m not saying the reason the Vikings lost is because of the refs- but pointing out the total penalty yards in the game is an absolutely rediculous.

    Do you understand that non-calls will give a very significate advantage to the team getting away with the non-calls? The commentators pointed out quite a few times what should have been defensive holding penalties against Lions secondary that were not called. Tough for a receiver to catch the ball when the defender holding him back- especially when the play could have resulted in a first down- keeping the drive alive. Your stats are completely pointless.

  40. Trolling every article about the vikings when they lose but not to be found when they win or you lose. Go drink some more and go to bed.
    ——-
    Stop crying….you guys infest every packer comment section….you outnumber packer fans in every story….then you come in here and whine. Cowboy up son.

  41. Apparently Viking fans aren’t handling the negative comments about them or their team very well. We can expect them to start picking needless fights soon, especially if they’ve had one or two beers.

  42. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    October 1, 2017 at 5:11 pm
    It amazes me how the Vikings lost to the Lions, are about to face a hungry Bears team that is playing much better than their record indicates, yet all the purples can do is comment about the Packers.

    —————————

    Says the guy, or gal, that spends the vast majority of their so called life, on Viking news threads.

  43. stellarperformance says:
    October 1, 2017 at 6:28 pm
    Apparently Viking fans aren’t handling the negative comments about them or their team very well. We can expect them to start picking needless fights soon, especially if they’ve had one or two beers.

    —————————–

    Just how would somebody replying to you and your village’s needless trolls, be picking needless fights?

  44. Satanic Hell Creature says:
    October 1, 2017 at 6:44 pm
    Just how would somebody replying to you and your village’s needless trolls, be picking needless fights?
    ///////////////////////////////////////////

    In the absence of anything football-related with which to engage us, many of your “fans” will resort to insults, putdowns, personal attacks, fat-shaming, any other assorted desperate measures to temporarily make themselves feel better.

    That’s how.

  45. pkrlvr says:
    October 1, 2017 at 6:27 pm
    Trolling every article about the vikings when they lose but not to be found when they win or you lose. Go drink some more and go to bed.
    ——-
    Stop crying….you guys infest every packer comment section….you outnumber packer fans in every story….then you come in here and whine. Cowboy up
    ——
    It definitely goes ways. The only difference is on Packer comments it is the Packer trolls from Viking comments that cry about Viking trolls in their thread. Even in this thread you can see they can only see it on one side
    I am not sure if they are just that not self aware or it part of their trolling. As funny and entertaining as it is I do shake.my head

  46. stellarperformance says:
    October 1, 2017 at 6:49 pm
    Satanic Hell Creature says:
    October 1, 2017 at 6:44 pm
    Just how would somebody replying to you and your village’s needless trolls, be picking needless fights?
    ///////////////////////////////////////////

    In the absence of anything football-related with which to engage us, many of your “fans” will resort to insults, putdowns, personal attacks, fat-shaming, any other assorted desperate measures to temporarily make themselves feel better.

    That’s how.

    —————————

    Point being, if you, and yours, didn’t live on Viking news threads, needlessly trolling, they wouldn’t have to engage you. And, I don’t care what happens on Packer news threads, because I very rarely read comments there. If you, and yours, weren’t playing “they did it first” it wouldn’t be happening here. And if you, and yours, ignored them on Packer threads, it would cease all together.

  47. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    October 1, 2017 at 6:11 pm

    You never have been big on the facts. There’s lots of whining about the Packers in this thread… as there always is. But NOW, after I call you and your little purple brethren out on it, you want to talk about the game? Excellent. Let’s do that. The Vikings lost and they looked like a real clown show doing it. The defense was decent but that’s it. The offense and special teams were flat terrible.

    Your biggest problem today was Mike Zimmer. 4th and goal on the 14 and he goes for it, down by 7, with over 2 minutes to go? What, he no longer trusts his “vaunted” defense? He burns TWO timeouts trying to get a 5 yard penalty, when they needed well more than 5 to convert? Move over Tice, Childress and Frazier… Mike Zimmer’s coming to town.

    Shurmur (your great Savior) calls for his goofy Wildcat nonsense when Keenum FINALLY got a little bit of a rhythm going… which resulted in a fumble (of course). Talk about a back breaker.

    This loss was squarely on the coaching staff, although the offensive players could spend a little more time on football, specifically ball security, and a little less time and effort on their hokey celebrations. Especially Diggs. Every catch, he finds the nearest camera to jaw at while he gyrates wildly… all while his team is losing. The perfect Minnesota Viking.
    ////////
    Now I know why you don’t talk about football much. You simply don’t know what you’re talking about.

    1. The defense was outstanding today. Zero TD’s for NFL’s highest paid QB. Only 1 TD allowed after the offense had 3 turnovers.
    2. The special teams were terrible? How? Because of 1 missed FG? Not sure what else you’re even talking about.
    3. The offense did struggle, and had those 3 TO’s. A backup QB often struggles. It’s why they’re backups and not starters.
    4. I liked the 4th down play for a TD try. A FG does what in that situation? You still have to score another TD. And with 2 minutes to go, you’d have to kick off, hold them, and then still get the ball back and score a TD. How is that a better plan?
    5. The Vikings did NOT need more than 5 yards to convert on their fake 4th down try. If they did, then why would they have been trying to draw off the defense? Also, the two timeouts burned had zero outcome on the game.
    6. The wildcat offense usually does quite well. Shurmur now has to call plays AND somehow tell his players not to fumble the ball?
    7. This loss is squarely on the offense and the backup QB, not the coaches. The coaches did not fumble 3 times. I’m to going to talk about how the announcers kept saying the officials couldn’t find their flags, but that didn’t help an already struggling offense.
    8. Diggs is one of the best WR’s in the NFL. But you want to point out his celebration after scoring a TD? You’re reaching now. And always. Not to mention they were not losing at that time. They were winning.
    9. Go back to just telling us how great your fan base is. It’s not true, but at least you’re good at bragging about nothing.

  48. h0metownzero says:
    October 1, 2017 at 5:51 pm
    Viking fans sure are some sore losers.
    ////////
    You show me a good loser, and I’ll show you a loser.

    You’re supposed to be a sore loser. If you aren’t, then you aren’t much of a fan.

  49. stellarperformance says:
    October 1, 2017 at 6:28 pm
    Apparently Viking fans aren’t handling the negative comments about them or their team very well. We can expect them to start picking needless fights soon, especially if they’ve had one or two beers.
    /////////
    Isn’t that exactly what you just did?

  50. Satanic Hell Creature says:
    October 1, 2017 at 6:42 pm
    The Almighty Cabbage says:
    October 1, 2017 at 5:11 pm
    It amazes me how the Vikings lost to the Lions, are about to face a hungry Bears team that is playing much better than their record indicates, yet all the purples can do is comment about the Packers.

    —————————

    Says the guy, or gal, that spends the vast majority of their so called life, on Viking news threads.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Here’s the difference… I have never once trolled the Vikings or their fans and don’t ever intend to. You’ll notice my first reply in this thread was in response to one of your little purple pals calling for Rodgers to be injured and even then all I did was point out the fact that the Packers had nothing at all to do with Cook’s injury.

    You want to talk football sensibly? I’m your guy. You want to troll the Packers and/or Packer fans? I’m your guy and I’ll respond with facts. If you’re upset with the facts, that’s on you… or on your team for supplying me with a never ending set of facts that bother you so.

  51. Oh, Conor, you never disappoint.

    1. The defense was decent, yes.

    2. A missedd field goal and several questionable decisions on returns.

    3. The offense was terrible. You can give all the excuses you want but it doesn’t change the fact that the offense was terrible.

    4. With two timeouts, you kick the field goal, which gives you a win IF you can score the TD after your “vaunted defense” can get a stop.

    5.It was 4th and 8 or 4th and 9. Go back and watch it again.

    6. Yeah, that’s why the Wildcat is used so much (that would be sarcasm, btw).

    7. The Vikings played well enough to have had a chance in this game if it weren’t for Zimmer tripping over his own “vauntedness” and for the back breaking fumble on the stupid wildcat play.

    8. I have no problem with outbursts of genuine emotion after a TD but these choreographed… whatever they are… are terrible. The bigger problem with Diggs is that after every catch, he looks around to find the nearest camera, sprints over to it and jaws in it while gyrating.

    9. Yes, 13 World Championships including 4 Super Bowls, the third largest and most iconic stadium in the NFL, sold out since before the Vikings sputtered into existence and no greedy owner threatening to move the team is “nothing” (that would be more sarcasm. Ask the neighbor kid what it means).

    Care to try again?

  52. Shocking the annual excuse train pulls into Minnesota a few weeks earlier than usual. You got beat at HOME and looked pretty bad doing it. This is after all the proclamations of 1st place from the m.i.a. posters who predictably go into hiding. Emrace the suck…didnt that mantra originate in Minneasota?

  53. Hey connor – cry some more and call yourself a waaahmbulance. There are enough montages out there about how often the zebras have screwed Detroit, including LAST FREAKING WEEK. Until they start making those about Minnesota, you really ought to suck it up, buttercup.

  54. Addendum – you know what’s great? I google video search ‘detroit screwed by refs’ and about 50 videos of said subject come up. I replace ‘detroit’ with ‘minnesota’ in the same search… and the second video is the Case of the Batted Ball in Seattle last year. Literally, ‘screwed by refs’ doesn’t even need Detroit in the search for Detroit to come up. xD

  55. golforepar says:
    October 1, 2017 at 6:19 pm
    But the Vikings were September champs!? Vikings vs Lions just call it the No Rings Bowl lmao!!
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    Don’t put the Lions in the same category as the Vikings, the Lions have 4 rings.

  56. RB’s get hurt…a lot! That’s why Packers GM, TT, has decided to go with low cost quantity, over high priced quality, at that particular position. You can always find a serviceable RB these days. As far as officials go, the good teams scout the ref’s almost as much as they do the next opponent. Saying that they all should be consistent is wishful thinking. Maybe they are not as good at it as the Patriots, but I think the Packers go into a game having a pretty good idea of the a particular group of officials tendencies. PS: The Lions are looking pretty good this year. They went toe to tow with the Falcons and winning in the glass monstrosity is quit impressive.

  57. The Vikings didn’t deserve to win today. They played a stupid game. Guys jumping off side on defense. Desperate trick play early in the second half.Missed FG AGAIN! Shurmur owns this loss. He doesn’t find Rudolph until the 4th quarter. The weakness on the Lions defense is at linebacker. They had no one to cover Rudolph. No targets.
    Defense held Stafford to one TD and 14 points. But they missed tackles and assignments. It is a shame Dalvin is out for the season. He is a stud.

  58. I’d feel pretty silly if my team -carefully crafted and well paid- squeaked out a win against another squad with a revolving door at QB, RB, O-line, etc. Still, the moral victories earned by Minnesota’s depth isn’t helping in the standings…just a s it didn’t help last year. It’s taking a lot of willpower to not say the team is cursed or snakebit. It was no secret that Bradford was a risk, but Bridgewater and Cook (for example) are young, talented guys cut down too damn early. Those healthy and playing on offense today were outworked by a tough Lions D.

    2-2 doesn’t feel so great right now, but it could be worse. It’s still wide open.

  59. Now I am a HUUUUUGGGGEEEEE Packers fan, but I must say, that most Packer fans do not live by the old adage of “act like you been there before”. And its not really surprising considering the mental wherewithal concerning us fans. All that being said, Detroit’s D is good, Minnesota’s D may be better. Detroit’s O’s is good (and Stafford is only 29, sheesh). Minnesota’s O was hoping to take a step up from whatever it ranked last year (27th, I think) to somewhere in the teens. Weeks 1 and 3 it was probably playing out of its skin a bit, but I do not think it’ll be as bad as weeks 2 and 4. As stated before, Detroit’s D is pretty good and they have a good secondary. Division games are tough, and I wouldn’t give the Packers a free pass on any of the teams in the division. I’m not so sure our D could be as effective as the Vikes against Stafford, and again, Detroit’s D is good. Unfortunately, for the Vikings, their season will come down to how well its offense can adapt. No more Cook (likely )and who knows with Bradford. You’ve seen the spectrum from Keenum and I expect he is going to end up looking more like he looked today (against Detroit) than what he looked like against Tampa or Pittsburgh. He is a backup. He will put the ball in the general area but it won’t be pinpoint and he’ll end up leaving some of his receivers out to dry. All in all, each Sunday is weird and I would, in no way, say that the Packers have this division wrapped up. Sure we have the best quarterback, but a quarterback isn’t everything. And back to my original point, trolls are trolls and they are trolls for a reason, they got nothing better to do.

  60. …ahem…

    minneanderthals says:
    September 28, 2017 at 10:39 am
    The Packers should win by 10. They’ll design a bunch of rollouts and quickhitters to move the chains and the Bears don’t have the weapons to keep up. Primetime gets Glennon to throw a pick or two.

    The Vikings are playing a playoff team, so they’ll lose.

    You’re welcome.

  61. Cabbagehead you claimed 2 “world Championships ” when you didn’t play a playoff game.
    When you don’t win a playoff game, you don’t win a World Championship.
    I notice the packer fans are the only fans to speak of old titles from the NFL days.
    Pathetic really. You have 4 SB Titles. You had a 2-0 lead on the whole league and were past by in 12 years by the Steelers first. And other teams since.

  62. I don’t claim any titles. I don’t get to determine who is or isn’t World Champion. Neither do you. The NFL does and the NFL says Green Bay has 13 World Championships. The NFL also says your Vikings have zero. Zilch. Nada. 55 years (and counting) of abject failure.

    Again, these are just the facts. There’s a word for people that just can’t accept actual facts. That word is delusional.

    Care to try again?

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