Week Four power rankings

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1. Chiefs (4-0; No. 1): How does this team ever lose any game at Arrowhead Stadium?

2. Bills (3-1; No. 11): You want respect, LeSean? Here’s your respect.

3. Falcons (3-1; No. 3): At least the Chick-fil-A workers didn’t have to witness this one.

4. Packers (3-1; No. 4): They should trade for Adrian Peterson before the Vikings do.

5. Steelers (3-1; No. 8): Antonio Brown 1, Gatorade cooler, 0. Barely.

6. Panthers (3-1; No. 17): You want respect, Cam? Here’s your respect.

7. Broncos (3-1; No. 12): Put Joe Woods at the top of the list of 2018 coaching candidates.

8. Lions (3-1; No. 9): Put Jim Bob Cooter at the top of the list of 2018 coaching candidates (if he decides on a first name).

9. Eagles (3-1; No. 13): It’s a good thing the Browns didn’t think Carson Wentz would be good.

10. Texans (2-2; No. 22): It’s a good thing the Browns didn’t think Deshaun Watson would be good.

11. Washington (2-2; No. 6): It’s a good thing the Browns didn’t try to trade for Kirk Cousins.

12. Patriots (2-2; No. 2): Maybe it would be a good thing to trade Jimmy Garoppolo to the Browns.

13. Rams (3-1; No. 18): In the Fight for L.A., it’s a first-round TKO.

14. Cowboys (2-2; No. 5): The Cowboys know how to build a lead; they now have to figure out how to hold a lead.

15. Raiders (2-2; No. 7): So much for being a Team of Destiny — unless the destiny is to not make the playoffs.

16. Titans (2-2; No. 10): Typically, a Dick LeBeau defense doesn’t give up that many points in a month.

17. Seahawks (2-2; No. 16): Save some of those points for future games, guys.

18. Vikings (2-2; No. 14): The Vikings don’t need a running back; they need an exorcist.

19. Buccaneers (2-1; No. 21): On Thursday night, Jameis Winston gets another chance to become as a franchise quarterback.

20. Jaguars (2-2; No. 15): This team is doing its helmet justice.

21. Saints (2-2; No. 23): Of all the teams that started 0-2, this could be the one that could make it to the playoffs.

22. Cardinals (2-2; No. 25): It always feels like Carson Palmer is one hit away from literally disintegrating.

23. Dolphins (1-2; No. 19): Cutler was just trying to figure out if “Wildcat” is a new brand of cigarette.

24. Jets (2-2; No. 26): The supposed worst team in the league isn’t even the worst team in New York.

25. Ravens (2-2; No. 20): It’s almost time to hit the reset button.

26. Bengals (1-3; No. 31): When told the Bengals beat the second best team in Ohio, some said in response, “They played the Buckeyes?”

27. Bears (1-3; No. 24): Once upon a time, a rookie quarterback whose last name started with “T” led the Vikings to a win over the Bears. It’s now payback time. Fixty-six years later.

28. Chargers (0-4; No. 27): They’re quickly becoming the Washington Generals of the NFL.

29. Colts (1-3; No. 28): Why do I have a weird feeling that this team could still win the division?

30. Giants (0-4; No. 29): Fee fi fo fuuuuuuuuuuudge.

31. 49ers (0-4; No. 32): Horseshoes, Hand grenades, Hoyer.

32. Browns (0-4; No. 30): They say there’s no rift between the coaching staff and the front office. How bad would this team be if there were one?

97 responses to “Week Four power rankings

  1. As a Bills fan – the Bills are WAY to dang high…
    (our offense is too suspect to be that high in the rankings.)

    … not to say that it doesn’t feel kinda nice…. 🙂

  2. 24. Jets (2-2; No. 26): The supposed worst team in the league isn’t even the worst team in New York.

    Since when do the Jets play in New York? The only NFL franchise in NY is the Bills.

  3. Name one other team that’s played 3 Super Bowl teams in the past 2 years and beat 2 of 3, the Buffalo baby !!

  4. The Bills are the worst team in New York.

    The Bills are the best team in New York.

    The Bills are the only team in New York.

  5. Patriots way too high. So far they suck.

    With the talent they have their effort should have them down the botton of the ranking.

  6. Reminder: The Chiefs lost to the Titans last year at Arrowhead Stadium in December. The Titans.

    The Titans should be in the bottom 5 of all power rankings today, as that was one of the most hopeless, miserable performances I’ve ever seen from them. They will finish last in their division and waste away another good draft pick like they did with Corey Davis. There is absolutely no way you can say with a straight face that they are in the top half of the league right now. No way.

  7. After taking out two undefeated teams in back-to-back weeks in Denver and Atlanta, the Bills deserve respect.

  8. How does a team play AT the #1 team according to your rankings. Come within a dropped pass of winning the game ON THE ROAD, and drop 5 places in the power rankings. It seems like that game would have proved they were closer to the power of the #1 team rather than farther from it.

  9. Ppl try to rank these on the teams previous years. “yea, patriots are 2-2 but they will bounce back”, well THIS YEAR they are 2-2. Bills have a dominant defense (which won the bronco’s the SB 2 years ago), and tyrod is statically better than Peyton was that year. So why dont they have a chance? I agree falcons were beat up and missing 2 key WR’s, so id go atl 2 and bills 3.

  10. I get the Patriots are in a Breakdown and kinda Free Fallin right now, but Houston is still Learning To Fly and Runnin Down A Dream. Both teams Won’t Back Down – but putting Houston over the Patriots is heartbreakingly in error. And you know, Even The Losers – get lucky sometimes……

    Peace out Tom

  11. Bills have two huge wins, but 2 is madness. Our offense has a lot to prove (and lord help us if Shady goes down). I’d say 10-12 is more reasonable at this point, if the purpose of these is “who would beat who if they played tomorrow”. Not sure the Bills are keeping this up over the course of the season, either.

  12. Wow one undefeated team and FOUR 0-4 teams. The NFL has too many teams and not enough players. The scrub games are piling up week after week…The Cassel/Cutler – Titans/Dolphins game this weekend will be a snorefest!!!!!

    The Packers are way to high on the Power Rankings….and this from a PACKERS Fan!!!

    Go GBP!!!!!

  13. I’m the biggest Pat’s hater I know but don’t we do this at some point early every season? Talk of their downfall? Why do I have the feeling within two weeks they’ll be back on track like they always are? If any coach can miraculously fix the D and O line, it’s Bill. Some how, some way, he will do it. And I say this with a scowl on my face

  14. That feels a bit high for the Bears… but if Trubisky can give them the spark they need then hopefully they’ve seen their low point for the year already.

  15. As a Bills fan, it is really strange to be ranked that high….been a while. I will say that, to this point, we have the best defense in the NFL. Just watching them play, and having the stats to back it up, does show that.

    However, our offense might be one of the worst in the league. Definitely in the bottom third. A limited QB, to go along with one of the worst WR groups in the league, hurts. With Matthews out a month, a bland group just got worse. Hopefully we’ll be able to figure something out to get better there.

    Sure, you can’t take anything away from us as a team, yet, because we have been winning tough games against good teams, but if we don’t get better play on offense, we won’t be ranked that high for long. We’ll be in games all year if the defense keeps playing the way they are, but we won’t win too many games scoring under 20 points and passing for under 200 yards every week.

    That said, it’s been a much better first quarter of the season than most of us, including Bills fans, could have expected.

  16. The Bills have beaten 2 top 5 teams.. their only loss came by 6 inches off the hands of Zay Jones… the deserve respect. Power Rankings don’t matter anyway so we will take #2

  17. (Dusts off the old rusty bandwagon, gets out the 88′ AFC Eastern Division Championship Sweatshirt (red), Fays Drugstore bag of old SB pennants, Wilson Farms 2-liter, some Dan-dee Chips and some Chris Berman soundbites)

    Lets go Buffalo!

  18. 12. Patriots (2-2; No. 2): Maybe it would be a good thing to trade Jimmy Garoppolo to the Browns.

    The have a linebacker I like …. last name is Collins… Palmer is getting up there, and I like that Jones fella in Arizona, maybe they could work a deal with the Cards

  19. Sorry, I’m a Vikings fan but just have to laught when I read this, so true:The Vikings don’t need a running back; they need an exorcist.

  20. I’m a Rams fan and even though I feel like they maybe should be a few spots higher I’m still pretty excited in that this probably the highest I have seen them ranked since the George W Bush administration.

  21. AP to the Packers makes sense — for a conditional low round draft pick (7th?)
    =====

    They didn’t show any interest whatsoever in the offseason, and Thompson SURELY won’t part with a draft pick for him.

  22. From a Bills Fan, #2 is just too high.

    Yes our defense is solid. However our depth is questionable at best.

    We have a great RB and a useful QB but our WRs are a weak group.

    Teams like the Pats, Packers, Falcons, Giants, Cowboys and Hawks are still stronger simply because of their QBs, star power and overall depth.

    I like Tyrod but once those teams get on track they are better.

    I would have the Bills as a top 10-12 team at this point.

  23. skoobyfl says:
    October 3, 2017 at 11:47 am
    Name one other team that’s played 3 Super Bowl teams in the past 2 years and beat 2 of 3,
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    Okay…how about the Chiefs. Played and beat the Broncos in 2015. Played and beat the Falcons in the 2016 regular season. Played and beat the Pats the first week of this season. 3-0

    That and a dollar will buy you a cup of coffee.

  24. New England’s team should be #1!!!!!!!!!!! They are the most balanced team in the league!!!!
    #1 total offense, #32 total defense. (423.8 offense/456.8 defense) that is balance.
    #1 pass offense, #32 pass defense. (328.2 offense/324.0 defense) That is balance.
    Run game is where they are unbalanced (96 offense/133 defense)

    If Brady would just run the ball more himself for 35 ypg, they would achieve true balance.

  25. Horse Shoes, Hand Grenades, Hoyer… that was great – and completely accurate. Can we beat the Luckless Colts?

  26. To the Bills fans your team has earned their ranking, enjoy it.

    On the other hand our Pat’s seem to be playing worse each week.

    Bad penalties, blown coverage etc. They just don’t make those mistakes under Bill. He must be. Pulling his hair out.

  27. Footballfan825 says:
    October 3, 2017 at 11:50 am

    Vikings are cursed… but they have maybe the best wr duo in the game. Now if they can get a healthy qb and rb they could be dangerous. But again, cursed.
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    LOL – Best duo in the game? I guess by default. Doesn’t make them an elite duo by any means. Additionally, with Cook out, I’d expect less single coverage on those guys, meaning less wide open catches.

  28. AP to the Packers is just stupid, unless you know nothing about their offense. He cannot pass protect or catch out of the backfield, something all GB backs must do. Ty may play in DAL and Williams’ injury is not season ending. Plus, Jones carried well and they still have Davante Mays. IF GB were adding a back, add Lacy.

  29. joetoronto says:

    October 3, 2017 at 11:48 am

    The Bills at #2 is a joke, they have no QB and no depth at all.
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    You don’t have a QB either, you live in Toronto remember, but if you do like the Raiders, you do have EJ Manuel LOL.

  30. The Bills are top-5 right now until they prove otherwise. 2 HUGE wins against quality opponents gives this team the right to boast a bit. They have holes, but so does every other team below them. The schedule is pretty light, but nothing where I don’t think the defense can keep them in it to win it. I’d rank them right at 5, as they are not the second best in the league. On to Cincinnati.

  31. I’d rather go with Aaron Jones and Devontae Mays than old washed up Adrian Peterson. We already know AP doesn’t have any juice left, AND he doesn’t know the offense AND he’s not a good fit for it anyway. Let’s see what the young guys can do.

  32. Hmmm, Bills at #2? Enjoy that one while it lasts for a week.

    As for Arrowhead, The Steelers showed them the door out of the playoffs in Arrowhead…

  33. 1. Chiefs (4-0; No. 1): How does this team ever lose any game at Arrowhead Stadium?
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    You’ll find out Sunday night!

  34. Is no #1 team rather are 25 #1 teams with only 7 considered poor – in this parity reigns NFL century 21 no team is dominant, any the 27 can win a Superbowl and any one them likely will, this without a doubt the poorest era in pro football history.

  35. rabidbillsfan says:
    October 3, 2017 at 1:27 pm
    The Bills are top-5 right now until they prove otherwise. 2 HUGE wins against quality opponents gives this team the right to boast a bit. They have holes, but so does every other team below them. The schedule is pretty light, but nothing where I don’t think the defense can keep them in it to win it. I’d rank them right at 5, as they are not the second best in the league. On to Cincinnati.

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    Well to be fair, we still don’t know who the quality opponents are. Chicago had 4 chances on the last few plays of the game to beat ATL and they stink. Bills were fortunate that Julio went out early against ATL too, which makes them a different team.

    Denver aren’t the same on the road as they are at home and their offense is just ok. They are likely a quality opponent though, but the jury is still out on Siemian.

    The Bills offense isn’t good at all but they are complementing the defense which is great. It’s a winning formula.

    The two Patriots games (which fortunately for the Patriots don’t start until Dec) will be interesting for the Bills. The Patriots just dropped 36 and 30 on two great defenses, so I think they can move the ball on the Bills, and the Bills can move the ball on the Patriots if their defense doesn’t improve.

    The Bills and Patriots both lost to Carolina, who might be better than people think. Houston is definitely better than people think, although after the last two weeks of Watson’s play, it’s probably known by all.

  36. willycents says:
    October 3, 2017 at 12:50 pm
    New England’s team should be #1!!!!!!!!!!! They are the most balanced team in the league!!!!
    #1 total offense, #32 total defense. (423.8 offense/456.8 defense) that is balance.
    #1 pass offense, #32 pass defense. (328.2 offense/324.0 defense) That is balance.
    Run game is where they are unbalanced (96 offense/133 defense)
    If Brady would just run the ball more himself for 35 ypg, they would achieve true balance.

    ————-

    That is probably the craziest stat I have ever seen actually.
    It’s almost impossible.

  37. skoobyfl says:
    October 3, 2017 at 11:47 am

    Name one other team that’s played 3 Super Bowl teams in the past 2 years and beat 2 of 3, the Buffalo baby !!
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    The Chiefs. Beat the Patriots, Falcons, and the Broncos. Beat the Broncos more than once.

  38. Why put Jim Bob Cooter at the top of the list of coaches? It’s the Lions D making all these positive things happen. The Lions offense has been stagnant and predictable since Cooter took over. Yes, he’s done better than Joe Lombardi but the credit should go to Austin, not Cooter.

  39. sdchicken says:
    October 3, 2017 at 12:27 pm
    Jets at .500, Saints D pitching shutouts, Jaxonville with 2 wins, Patriots D is terrible, Rams are a scoring machine…what a bizarre season

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    And Alex Smith and the Chiefs are one of the highest scoring offenses. Giants can’t win a game. Chargers are playing 16 road games.

  40. TylerHills says:
    October 3, 2017 at 2:11 pm
    sdchicken says:
    October 3, 2017 at 12:27 pm
    Jets at .500, Saints D pitching shutouts, Jaxonville with 2 wins, Patriots D is terrible, Rams are a scoring machine…what a bizarre season
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    And Alex Smith and the Chiefs are one of the highest scoring offenses. Giants can’t win a game. Chargers are playing 16 road games.

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    Never thought about it before, but that might make the Chargers more dangerous on the actual road as the season progresses. A team to watch out for coming into your house.

  41. I always think that you know what teams are after game 6. So you can look in week 7 and see who beat actual good teams, and which teams that looked good to start the year aren’t so good, etc.

    Seen too many times teams start hot through 5 games, and it turns out they are playing bad teams and end up bad.

    Still a bit early to tell.

  42. Kerouac says:
    October 3, 2017 at 1:52 pm
    Is no #1 team rather are 25 #1 teams with only 7 considered poor – in this parity reigns NFL century 21 no team is dominant, any the 27 can win a Superbowl and any one them likely will, this without a doubt the poorest era in pro football history.

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    Yeah, I guess that’s why Brady, Manning and Roethlisberger have represented the AFC in the Super Bowl 14 of the last 16 years. Parity.

  43. chiefsfolife says:
    October 3, 2017 at 11:39 am
    Bills at #2 is comical. After last nights performance in KC, I’d put the 2-2 Redskins above them easy, and I’m a Chiefs fan! Bills will fold.
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    and so will the Chiefs in the Playoffs. But please, enjoy the regular season!

  44. joetoronto says:
    October 3, 2017 at 11:55 am
    Bills have two huge wins, but 2 is madness. Our offense has a lot to prove (and lord help us if Shady goes down). I’d say 10-12 is more reasonable at this point, if the purpose of these is “who would beat who if they played tomorrow”. Not sure the Bills are keeping this up over the course of the season, either.

    ————–

    Too late… Target is on their back now!

  45. jjackwagon says:

    October 3, 2017 at 12:49 pm

    skoobyfl says:
    October 3, 2017 at 11:47 am
    Name one other team that’s played 3 Super Bowl teams in the past 2 years and beat 2 of 3,
    ———————————————————–
    Okay…how about the Chiefs. Played and beat the Broncos in 2015. Played and beat the Falcons in the 2016 regular season. Played and beat the Pats the first week of this season. 3-0

    That and a dollar will buy you a cup of coffee.

    __________

    It’s actually 4-0 against Super Bowl representative teams in the past 2 years. 2016 they beat the Broncos, Panthers, and Falcons, 2017 they beat the Patriots.

  46. nfella says:
    October 3, 2017 at 11:54 am
    I get the Patriots are in a Breakdown and kinda Free Fallin right now, but Houston is still Learning To Fly and Runnin Down A Dream. Both teams Won’t Back Down – but putting Houston over the Patriots is heartbreakingly in error. And you know, Even The Losers – get lucky sometimes……

    Peace out Tom

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    The best post on PFT today. Well said, sir.

  47. The logic used in this ranking is seriously skewed….

    #11 Bills beat the #3Falcons in a close game and jump 9 spots to #2…

    #21 Bucs barely get by #29 GIANTS… Doesn’t that prove the Bucs are a top to mid 20s team rather than move up 2 spots…

    Thursday will not end well for them..

  48. I LOL’d at the vikings line. That was good.

    As a Vikes fan, nothing would make me happier than seeing AP go to the Packers. Watching all those Packer fans justify supporting their Team with AP on it after all the times they ripped on Vikings and their fans for him being on the team would be priceless. I have no doubt they’d bring AP in too, if he’d shown even an ounce of his former self in the first 4 games.

  49. 1. Chiefs (4-0; No. 1): How does this team ever lose any game at Arrowhead Stadium?

    It should have happened last night. The Redskins we’re laying the wood to the Chiefs. So much so, that they lost a half dozen defensive players allowing the Chiefs so pull away.

    I think they will lose on the road this week to Houston.

  50. It’s the defense in Detroit, not the offense.

    Hopefully, my Lions have hit a point where now we can look to beating elite teams and not just beating the teams we “should beat.” Green Bay is still, somehow, surviving without a cognizable defense. We need to learn to beat them. At Ford Field We have Pittsburgh and Carolina this month with New Orleans away. We need to win 2/3. We need to start the focus on beating those teams who are as good or better than we are.

    Hopefully, this is a bright time for my team. We’ve waited patiently for some success in this league. This first quarter of 2017 has really turned the tide here.

    In Quinn We Trust.

  51. Kdk33 says

    October 3, 2017 at 3:20 pm
    1. Chiefs (4-0; No. 1): How does this team ever lose any game at Arrowhead Stadium?

    It should have happened last night. The Redskins we’re laying the wood to the Chiefs. So much so, that they lost a half dozen defensive players allowing the Chiefs so pull away.

    I think they will lose on the road this week to Houston.

    So, how would that be a loss at Arrowhead? Though the Texans played in….Texas.

  52. purplepackerhater says:
    October 3, 2017 at 3:07 pm
    I LOL’d at the vikings line. That was good.

    As a Vikes fan, nothing would make me happier than seeing AP go to the Packers. Watching all those Packer fans justify supporting their Team with AP on it after all the times they ripped on Vikings and their fans for him being on the team would be priceless. I have no doubt they’d bring AP in too, if he’d shown even an ounce of his former self in the first 4 games.
    —————————-
    As I stated all offseason, it will never happen.
    Thompson would’ve never welcomed aboard a player with such a checkered past.
    And there hasn’t been a single moment that has changed my mind since.
    The funny thing though, if it happens, it wouldn’t matter to me.
    Because I could never root for or cheer on that piece of garbage.
    Ever!
    You see, I’m intelligent enough to separate the love I have for my team and the displeasure I may feel for a particular player and their actions.
    It’s totally possible.
    Most fans are able to do that.
    It was Viking fans that continually tried justifying all of his bad behavior.
    In fact, you guys still do.
    And you simply can’t change the past.
    You and all your brethren wantonly cheered for a man who tortured a 4 year old.
    Deal with it. And quit trying to sully Green Bay with your trash.

  53. I believe the rankings are pretty much dead on, up to this point. The stats match now. Will it change every week, of course. But remember any given Sunday!

  54. We’ll see what MN can do going forward. The defense is no doubt top-notch. Two of the 3 fumbles given up against Detroit were completely on the O. McKinnon’s wild-cat fumble (why?) and Cook’s torn ACL fumble (protecting the ball when feeling your knee shred would be a tough thing to do). Detroit’s D did cause the one that sealed the game- but it could have been an entirely different game by that point (minus one or two of those and it’s most likely a Vikings win). More than anything this team needs Bradford back. Floyd will be out there too- working’ it with Diggs and Theilen- has to be better than Treadwell. RB will now be a rotational combo-attack. Hopefully this team is being exorcised this week at practice. Vikings are asking for all Rosary donations to be sent to their team HQ… Holy Mary, mother of God…

  55. After this weekend:
    1. Houston
    2. Kansas City
    3. New England
    4. Green Bay
    5. Philadelphia
    6. Denver
    7. Pittsburgh
    8. Atlanta
    9. Seattle
    10. Buffalo
    11. Washington
    12. Detroit
    13. New Orleans
    14. LA Rams
    15. Carolina
    16. Jacksonville
    17. Chicago
    18. Tampa Bay
    19. Dallas
    20. Arizona
    21. NY Giants
    22. Cincinnati
    23. Tennessee
    24. Minnesota
    25. NY Jets
    26. San Diego
    27. Indianapolis
    28. Baltimore
    29. Oakland
    30. San Francisco
    31. Cleveland
    32. Miami

  56. For all the “Bills too high” people out there. I understand your concerns, but understand this. If the KC Chiefs lost on Monday night, which they almost did, the Bills would officially be the #1 team in the NFL according to standings and NFL tiebreakers.

    Let that one soak in

  57. Bills at #2 is comical. After last nights performance in KC, I’d put the 2-2 Redskins above them easy, and I’m a Chiefs fan! Bills will fold.

    The Redskins are 2-2 for a reason. The Bills may be a bit high, but they’ve beaten some quality teams. Bring it on KC!

  58. I don’t think Peterson is washed up. He just signed with the wrong team. Ingram is a better fit as the lead back because of his receiving skills and Kamara has broken out as the change of pace back. Sadly for Peterson, and maybe the Saints is that they may never be able to showcase him to get better value in trade. Given how little they’ve used him, not sure there is much tape to show he can still break tackles in the NFL.

  59. 29. Colts (1-3; No. 28): Why do I have a weird feeling that this team could still win the division?

    Maybe because you’re high?
    I realize they are only a game back… but have you watched this team? I’m not sure they are better than 5-6 wins WITH Luck.

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