EJ Manuel “didn’t have what he has now” when he was in Buffalo

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The Raiders brought EJ Manuel to the team this offseason to give themselves an experienced option behind Derek Carr and they got their first look at him in their offense after Derek Carr injured his back last weekend.

There were ups and downs in the loss to the Broncos, but coach Jack Del Rio said he didn’t think “the moment was too big for” Manuel and the hope is that will remain the case against the Ravens this weekend. Tight end Lee Smith played with Manuel in Buffalo for two years and presented one reason to think Manuel can do better with the Raiders than he did with the Bills.

“EJ didn’t come into the greatest situation years ago in Buffalo,” Smith said, via NBC Sports Bay Area. “We were in a building process up there, and we didn’t have Amari Cooper and Michael Crabtree and Jared Cook. Not to say we were terrible back then, but he didn’t have what he has now. He was a 22-year old man with great expectations as a first-round draft pick. It wasn’t the best situation for him, but he always handled things like a pro. He’s a good quarterback and he’s a good man. I’d let him babysit my kids.”

In a perfect world, the Raiders would probably prefer Manuel was babysitting than leading the offense but that’s not the boat they’re in right now. They’ll have to make the best of an imperfect situation and hope that Carr is back under center sooner rather than later.

31 responses to “EJ Manuel “didn’t have what he has now” when he was in Buffalo

  1. When EJ came to Buffalo he was not expected to be the starter. He was going to be brought along slowly behind Kevin Kolb. Kolb had a freak slip on a mat career ending injury and EJ was starting.
    Good guy, smart guy, good leader who had some turnover issues. Hopefully a change of venue and some better receivers help him turn his career around. Best of luck to EJ.( except on Oct. 29th of course)

  2. Honestly I thought he played better than Carr on Sunday. Not saying he is a better QB, just saying he did better and will hopefully do okay. Enough to win and keep us in the conversation.

  3. “EJ didn’t come into the greatest situation years ago in Buffalo,” Smith said, via NBC Sports Bay Area. “We were in a building process up there, and we didn’t have Amari Cooper and Michael Crabtree and Jared Cook.

    The Bills have always been in a rebuilding process, but nothing changes.

    Just lose baby.

  4. I’d say his offensive weapons were comparable. Stevie Johnson was no slouch. Chandler was an big bodied target at TE. Fred Jackson?? He was wildly inconsistent from an accuracy standpoint, had nothing to do with his weapons.

  5. Uh, EJ manuel lost his job twice, to a now retired Kyle Orton and then to Tyrod Taylor.

    Doug Marrone quit because he wanted to get away from Manuel. Marrone brought in Orton from retirement because he thought so little of Manuel. He took the money and left because the GM at the time doubled down on trying to prove it wasn’t a mistake to draft him.

    AS a backup QB, he had like 3 turnovers for TDS in a few minutes vs the Jaguars in England. They made a huge comeback, but…he was like a turnover machine. I think it was Two fumbles and a pick 6 or something.

    I’m curious to see if he does better in LA, but a QB with lots of issues with accuracy usually doesn’t become a very accurate passer due to a change in venue.

    He was 1st round pick because the Bills made a major mistake. They could have waited and taken him in the 3rd or 4th round. Nobody projected him to go before Geno Smith. Including the head coach at the time.

  6. He blew the game last week. if he was a real QB he would have put some speed on that ball down the sideline and it wouldn’t have been an INT.

  7. Derek Carr has been very timid at QB this season. watch the film. He pretty much goes into the fetal position when a defender is within 1 foot of him. He is afraid of being injured, which we all know only assures that he WILL be injured, and he was. With that being said, EJ will guide this offense in a much better way, while he is in there. The entire offense will have a different attitude and he will have a 4-0 record as a starter for my RAIDERS!

  8. Manuel has had more time to mature and perfect his skills by watching others since he was at Buffalo. Few QBs coming directly out of college to the NFL are successful without a strong period of adjustment. Besides having a better group of receivers, Oakland has an offensive line who has a strong ability to block,when they want to.

  9. There’s no arguing that the weapons he has in Oakland are better than when he came into the league in Buffalo, but that doesn’t mean he’ll be successful. In fact, if you look at the entirety of his time in Buffalo, he got worse the longer he was there. The weapons improved but he got worse every season. He’s a good guy but he’s a bad QB.

  10. I got no beef with the Raiders and I wish EJ the best, really. But for anyone who suffered through his games, it had little to do with coaching or on-field talent..he was just horrific. Ideal situation in Buffalo far from it, but still he just wasn’t good. Find the Jags game from London a few years back. Pick6/fumble6/int on three straight plays? Go get em EJ…really prove me wrong and I have Cooper in a lot of leagues so I do have some vested interest

  11. He is unable to feel any pocket presence at all. Take a look at Von MIller’s sack, Manuel had absolutely no feel for the pressure. Miller has taken down alot of qb’s so i’m not even talking about the sack. Watch the replay, he never even knew someone was coming. His accuracy is pretty bad and his deep ball is usually wildly underthrown..

    He is a great dude and maybe he can be ok for a game or two, but the guy who said they will go 4-0 with him… well if they do, it will be in spite of him, not because of…

  12. No doubt he hold down the fort for the next 3 games. The offensive line needs to get their act together

  13. FSU fan who watched EJ’s whole career here. It was…confusing.

    He’s a HUGE guy with a big arm, obvious intelligence and the look of a great QB. His college career started off really well. He could pass from the pocket, and he had sneaky speed when he ran, and a knack for continuing to look downfield when on the move. Then…he kind of hit pause just when we thought he’d take off.

    He stopped running (FSU fans still debate whether that was the staff telling him not to, or EJ refusing to- with most evidence pointing to the latter), he got much more tentative with the ball and he developed this baffling spin move to avoid sacks that almost always ended up with him still getting sacked, only 8 yards further back than before. Watch the link for one example, but this happened A LOT.

    http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=11585408

    He was drafted WAY too high IMO, but the potential was there and he actually looked ok at times, then things got confusing again. Minor injuries led to him being benched, where he just stagnated. Maybe he’ll have some success in Oakland. I hope he does. But when it comes to EJ I’m not comfortable predicting anything.

  14. EJ looked very relaxed in that game. There’s too much of an expectation placed on young QB’s today.

    There’s only been 1 QB drafted in over 10 years that has won, and he because of his defense – Russell Wilson

  15. teek77 says:
    October 5, 2017 at 12:26 pm
    Manuel has had more time to mature and perfect his skills by watching others since he was at Buffalo. Few QBs coming directly out of college to the NFL are successful without a strong period of adjustment. Besides having a better group of receivers, Oakland has an offensive line who has a strong ability to block,when they want to.
    ——-
    …….when they want to. Nail firmly driven in. Went from being regarded as the best o-line in the league to a bunch of turnstiles. Maybe they can return to their former selves now.

  16. I think Carr is the only one on the team that did not take a knee during the anthem, then I watched the game . The line had poor blocking which is unusual for Oakland. Carr got sacked many times and even the ball was snapped to him at his knees. Very poor execution from the OL….Hummmm you have to wonder…..?

  17. AH HAH HAHHHH. What’s he got now? That sieve of an offensive line? Old Beast Stumble Mode for a running game? Hey how bout them hands o’ stone “Number 1” receiver??? GOING TO THE SUPER BOWL!!!

    Just lose baby… just lose.

  18. All this hate coming from Buffalo fans lol. What qb for that franchise has been successful (playing there) in the last decade? This is the same franchise that dragged PJ losman and gave an overrated kevin kolb a fortune.Don’t kid yourselves.

  19. Lee Smith says he is a good babysitter. Asked basically what he thinks about Manuel as a quarterback, he brings up he is a good guy and is really qualified to babysit. That doesn’t sound good. On the other hand he did ok. 2 times last year Carr went down and we had a huge lead and it was like a nightmare. The other team instantly started coming back. The defense got worse. The offense was a disaster with Mcgloin or mccook. This year Carr goes down, we are losing but Manuel actually manages to get points against a great d and our d holds up and we cut into the lead. Still in the game with a chance. Regardless of how bad he might be, its a big upgrade.

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