V.P. Pence leaves 49ers-Colts game due to kneeling during anthem

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The Vice President has joined the President in their concerns regarding players kneeling during the national anthem.

Vice President Mike Pence, who previously served as the governor of Indiana, tweeted that he left Sunday’s game between the 49ers and the Colts. As previously, there were 23 49ers players who took a knee.

“I left today’s Colts game because [President Trump] and I will not dignify any event that disrespects our soldiers, our Flag, or our National Anthem,” Pence said via Twitter.

The Vice President can hardly claim that he was surprised by the development, given that so many 49ers took a knee last week — and given public comments from people like 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan and 49ers owner Jed York regarding the situation. Chances are that the Vice President showed up with every intention to quickly exit, if the 49ers did what he knew or should have known they’d do.

And so, as the issue was finally beginning to subside, it’s now moving back toward a full boil, with the holders of the two highest offices in the land developing a tag-team approach that likely will see the Commander-in-Chief soon make a return to the ring via the top rope.

UPDATE 2:13 p.m. ET: NFL spokesman Joe Lockhart tells PFT that the league has no comment on the situation.

177 responses to “V.P. Pence leaves 49ers-Colts game due to kneeling during anthem

  1. Why does everyone want to make this into a thing where the players are somehow protesting against the Armed Forces?

  2. ENOUGH OF THIS ALREADY!
    You have made your point! We get it! The fans cant do much more, you are just about to lose the people who pay your wages.
    You are taking it too far, FAR more Blacks are being killed by your own than bu Cops! If this isn’t you being Racist toward White people why haven’t I heard a single comment about my point??

  3. Of course 49er players are taking a knee, that’s how they play the games on their knees, all losers ease-ally take a knee

  4. Owners NEED and MUST tell players to either STAND AND RESPECT or STAY in the locker room! PERIOD!
    This is Football. Play Football! This is NOT your stage to demonstrate and protest political issues.
    Good for Pence!

  5. He’s covering up the fact he can’t behave himself in public around women if his wife isn’t there. He needs to a safe space. I think he’s the vice snowflake in chief!

  6. Works for an administration in which multiple members have been caught colluding with Russia to help win the election…

  7. Forget everyone’s opinion or comments on this for a moment.
    These players have everyone’s attention. Let’s get to the table and talk about their concerns. Why keep doing something that’s gonna cause a large percentage of people to turn you off and not hear said concerns.

  8. Here’s what the owners ought to do: tell their white players and fans if they can’t understand why the black players are upset by a blatant racist being elected president, shut up about it and let the black players protest however they see fit. And if the white supremacists among the fans don’t like it, stop attending NFL games.

  9. If you truly wanted this issue to subside you wouldn’t report on it at all, let alone with the frequency that you do. Glass houses, Mr. Florio

  10. Two things:

    1) This action might actually encourage more players to kneel, seeing the results they get.

    2) Odds are Pence was told by Trump he had to make a scene or Trump would declare him disloyal. That’s how he rolls.

  11. Good. Go home. Back in the 60’s we sat during the anthem as a protest against an immoral war because we felt that strongly. Trump/Pence just don’t get that this is about they way that Blacks in america are treated and nothing to do with a pep song.

  12. The ONLY thing this Entire disrespect kneeling has done is create RACISM and has DIVIDED US even more!
    PERIOD! oh yeah and it has kILLED our great sport.

  13. San Francisco losers. Scum. I hope they all get concussions. LOW IQ mongrels. Concussions might improve them.

  14. The Vice-President of the United States of America literally just ran away from the 1st Amendment.

  15. Curious. How many people changed the channel or turned off the tv when they took a knee? Too bad the ratings do not include that info.

  16. The only people falling for this are the fools who put these two buffoons in office in the first place.

    Bigger fish to fry, simpletons.

    Carry on.

  17. Ahahahahahahaha….and nobody cares that you left…you are just as useless as that draft dodging coward Trump, the phony patriot con-man who insults soldiers who actually served this country and were POW’S…where is the respect for the military and the flag in that?

  18. They won’t “dignify” an event with their presence? Dang, it hurts when my drink spurts through my nose.

  19. Easiest way to stop the kneeling is to stop letting cops walk free when they murder black people. Problem solved.

  20. This has gone far enough, WE UNDERSTAND. You are there to play football. If you want to make a change, retire from Football and run for public office.

  21. Well, seeing as how he knew there would be kneeling players, this was more just a PR stunt to be seen leaving the game

  22. Here’s my thoughts: The anthem is a time to recognize the sacrifices of our armed-forces. If you want to protest perceived injustice, great! Do it! That’s what makes America the best country in the world. BUT, do it at another time, do it during news conferences, interviews, or actually out in your communities where it would make a difference. All this anthem protesting is doing is putting off people. Very few, if any, are coming to your side because of this, and the poor timing is irritating people that maybe would have listened to you, had you chosen a better way to convey your message.

  23. I’m waiting for the first game to have fans protest by Staying home and spending the afternoon doing something with their family

  24. Good. No one wanted you there in the first place. And yes, I actually served unlike most of the people complaining about a legit protest against social inequity. Our Constitution, which I fought for, guarantees everyone’s right to do it (because our FOunding Fathers were denied it), and I don’t feel one bit disrespected by someone kneeling. I feel disrespected for my service by those who seek deny First Amendment rights to protest our government and society, that I fought and nearly died for.

  25. roseann894 says:
    October 8, 2017 at 1:35 pm
    Here’s what the owners ought to do: tell their white players and fans if they can’t understand why the black players are upset by a blatant racist being elected president, shut up about it and let the black players protest however they see fit. And if the white supremacists among the fans don’t like it, stop attending NFL games.

    ——

    If anyone had any doubts about the liberal bias of this site you can place those aside. A comment like the above is allowed to stay while the comment that I make about possibly having an explanation for Cam Newton’s ridiculous comment is deleted. Ridiculous.

  26. Pence made his point for Trump’s base, whatever that might be. His own favorability rating in the state where he was once governor would be an interesting thing to know.

  27. Nice publicity stunt. He knew the Niners would be kneeling because they’ve been doing it all year. How much taxpayer money was wasted on security and travel so he could pretend to be outraged??

  28. I love the killing of the golden goose.Who will the players blame when the salary cap circles the drain?

  29. screbels89 says:
    October 8, 2017 at 1:35 pm

    These players have everyone’s attention. Let’s get to the table and talk about their concerns.
    ______________

    Screbles..I agree, but here is the issue, you cannot have this conversation with them because their facts are incorrect. They are operating on feelings and no one can negotiate a feeling that is based on incorrect information and lies to go away. This will bring down all sports involved and it is what it is. Let it burn down and start all over! When people start examining the real stats and operate from a position of fact, then we can resolve anything…for now, other than tell them they are right, you cannot fix what is not broken. They need counselors and a trip to the justice department statistics dept. Not a seat at this table.

  30. at least this site is consistent in it’s liberal bias. I seem to recall this site and every other media outlets having no problem with bashing Tim Tebow with taking a knee in prayer for forcing his views on everyone but yet does not have a problem with players shoving their views on on everyone who finds their views and actions offensive. I know this will not be published but had to point out your hypocrisy anyway.

  31. Regardless of what you think about the players kneeling during the anthem, did anyone that has been following this story have any doubt whatsoever that a bunch of the 49ers where going to take a knee today?
    Obviously Pence just showed up to demonstrate to everyone what a super-patriotic guy he is. I bet he also wore his flag pin in case anyone doubted how much he loves America.
    Just another rascal politician trying to play the citizenry for fools.

  32. I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color. To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder.
    — Colin Kaepernick, former San Francisco 49ers quarterback, Aug. 26, 2016

  33. Ironic that those who recognize and applaud the players right to free speech and action would criticize the Vice President for exercising the exact same right. Hypocrites, every one of you.

  34. So, he went there knowing player would kneel and then left in a huff because players knelt? Apparently, more than one person in the administration can be called a moron. More misdirection attempts to take focus away from all of the skullduggery. Things like this is why the five people in the administration using personal servers for official emails got swept under the rug, even though the whole email thing was the main rally cry during the campaign.

    A week from now, I wouldn’t be shocked to find out Pence wasn’t even in attendance, but just claiming he was.

  35. trainwrecksryan says:

    The Vice-President of the United States of America literally just ran away from the 1st Amendment.
    =========================================================

    No, he exercised his first amendment right. And the majority agree with him.

  36. buttfumbles says:
    October 8, 2017 at 1:35 pm
    Works for an administration in which multiple members have been caught colluding with Russia to help win the election…

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    Liar.

    Proof please. Site your primary sources please. NOT the NYT or some other Democrat house rag.

  37. Protesting wrongs being committed in America is patriotic. Attempting to stop such protests is unpatriotic. Pretending that protests against wrongs are the same as dishonoring America is unpatriotic.

  38. Why did he go in the first place? What did he expect? Quick to leave so he could go home and put on his favorite princess dress.

  39. What did he expect? Come to Wisconsin. We are as old and backward as it gets.

  40. Who didn’t see that coming from two weeks ago? Did anyone truly think that Pence would attend a football game and not grandstand?

    This is what terribly incompetent people do.

    They change the subject.

    Why keep electing these clowns and then complain when they act like children?

    Don’t like it? Don’t vote for it.

  41. Racist white nationalist trump supporters who subscribe to the Bible and morality fables really hate to be inconvenienced by anyone who doesn’t fall in line with their agenda here in Amerikkka these days.

  42. trainwrecksryan says:

    The Vice-President of the United States of America literally just ran away from the 1st Amendment.
    =========================================================

    No, he exercised his first amendment right. And the majority agree with him.
    ——————————–

    Yep, Pence’s conduct is an exercise in free speech. Too bad he, and you, object to others exerting free speech.

  43. Pence did what cowards do, run though I am not surprised by this at all.
    Instead of running away and using this as a publicity stunt why not go down to the field and engage those who are protesting. Listen to them and find out what this is all about.
    Trump and Pence are a disgrace to the values those brave veterans fought for. All they are doing is pumping up their base. It is shameful. If anyone is disrespecting the flag and constitutional rights it is Trump and Pence.

  44. red says:
    October 8, 2017 at 1:33 pm
    publicity stunt
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Which part, kneeling or leaving? I say probably both

  45. ldbeachtecorion61 says:
    October 8, 2017 at 1:33 pm
    ENOUGH OF THIS ALREADY!
    You have made your point! We get it! The fans cant do much more, you are just about to lose the people who pay your wages.
    You are taking it too far, FAR more Blacks are being killed by your own than bu Cops! If this isn’t you being Racist toward White people why haven’t I heard a single comment about my point??
    ———————–
    You clearly don’t get it. Your tickets, parking, and concession purchases contribute almost nothing to player salaries.

    You so called fans are not going anywhere regardless of how much you of a tattoo you throw every week. Ratings haven’t declined so you all clearly don’t care about players kneeling as much as you claim.

    Finally, enough with the black on black crime already. It’s been debited thoroughly. You are much more likely to be killed by someone you know than not so equating it simply to race is creating a straw man argument.

    If you really care about crime in this country which is an American problem then pitch in and do something about it.

  46. buttfumbles says:

    Works for an administration in which multiple members have been caught colluding with Russia to help win the election…
    ============================================

    “The whole Russia thing is a big nothing-burger.”

    – CNN’s Van Jones on secretly recorded tape

  47. Speaking of disrespecting soldiers, didn’t trump disrespect McCain and say he wasn’t a hero? Didn’t he dodge a few drafts? Oh and didn’t he disrespect a 5 star family? Oh wait and then there’s him discrediting current military generals during the election? Take proper care of the vets after they come home and maybe some of that lip service will carry a lil weight.

  48. buttfumbles says:
    October 8, 2017 at 1:35 pm
    Works for an administration in which multiple members have been caught colluding with Russia to help win the election…

    ——-

    You mean like when Hillary and Obama sold 1/3 off our uranium to three Russians?

  49. uncommon1 says:
    October 8, 2017 at 1:37 pm
    If you truly wanted this issue to subside you wouldn’t report on it at all, let alone with the frequency that you do. Glass houses, Mr. Florio
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    People have short memories. There was nothing but constant reporting about the Washington name controversy last year. What changed? Nothing. There are so many sports, news, and opinion sites online that reporters really don’t have much influence. You think the players are going to stop if Florio stops reporting about it? If he doesn’t cover it, somebody else will. The players are doing it more to piss off Trump and his ilk at this point as most people would react to a bully.

  50. To all those claiming that the players protesting are exercising their 1st amendment rights…..try going into work tomorrow and staging a protest that alientates any of your customers and see what happens….

  51. Just grandstanding by Pence and, like Trump, an effort to wrap the Administration in the American flag to distract from their lack of significant accomplishments. Yawn.

  52. What the hell was he doing there in the first place? Trump already declared war on the NFL and he allowed his number 2 to waltz right into the war zone? Great leadership man, great leadership.

  53. Between January 2015 and October 2017 almost twice as many whites were killed by police than blacks were killed by police – 1293 whites to 658 blacks. This information is available at the Washington Post for anyone interested in the truth.

    Yet, I have not seen a single video of a white person being killed by police, I have only seen videos of black people being killed by police.

    658 blacks killed by police in 2.5 years.

    Aren’t there more blacks than that killed by other blacks in Chicago in ONE year?

    Seems like a very phony issue to be protesting.

  54. I watch a game when the game starts. I’ve never watched any of the pre-game action, including the anthem. If you’re offended by something that goes on before the game starts, there is a very, very simple solution.

  55. screbels89 says:
    October 8, 2017 at 1:35 pm
    Forget everyone’s opinion or comments on this for a moment.
    These players have everyone’s attention. Let’s get to the table and talk about their concerns. Why keep doing something that’s gonna cause a large percentage of people to turn you off and not hear said concerns.
    ————————–
    Their “concerns” are that about 120 or so black men were killed by cops last year. Why they’re not equally concerned about the 8,000+ blacks killed by other blacks is the question.

    Pence was right to leave. The players association donates to the American hating globalist George Soros and as such have become an extension of the Obama/Clinton wing of the Deocratic party. If you’re a Republican/Constitutional Patriot/American Loving citizen at least know that you’re financing these guys at the expense of your country.

  56. A politician taking advantage of what was essentially a staged photo-op? Get outta town!

    Probably kissed some babies on his way to out of the stadium to the motorcade too.

    Can’t wait to see where VP Pence turns up next?! Could be like Where’s Waldo.

  57. I wonder how much we taxpayers paid to secure that stadium for him to pull his little stunt?

  58. usmutts says:
    October 8, 2017 at 1:59 pm
    trainwrecksryan says:

    The Vice-President of the United States of America literally just ran away from the 1st Amendment.
    =========================================================

    No, he exercised his first amendment right. And the majority agree with him.
    ——————————–

    Yep, Pence’s conduct is an exercise in free speech. Too bad he, and you, object to others exerting free speech.
    ===================================================================

    It’s not our side who starts riots if someone we don’t like comes to a college to speak.

  59. joeychittwood says:
    October 8, 2017 at 1:52 pm
    Hey trainwreck, the 1st ammendment doesn’t cover speech in the workplace…… which is what a football field is for the players
    Ya ignorant wretch

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    No but it covers the right to free speech without reprisal from the government. So when the President says that private enterprise should fire players who exercise their first amendment rights, he’s actually going against the first amendment.

    As for whether the right is valid in the workplace, that’s for each employer to decide, not the government. If the NFL decides that they’ll allow the protests, or at least not punish them, that’s their right as the players’ employer.

  60. This clown came to the game with every intent to leave early. Everyone know that the 49ers have players that kneel during the anthem. This was just a way for Trump to keep this in the news.

  61. He went there with the specific goal of being able to leave and continue with the smokescreens while they steal the what remaining public wealth there is. This was a very calculated move by Pence.

  62. Thats what everyone there should have done. Im not watching any football and I have no plans to watch anytime in the near future. I have also been avoiding brands that are major sponsors of the NFL.

  63. “No, [Pence] exercised his first amendment right”.

    The Vice President has a higher obligation than expressing his personal freedom speech right. He represents all Americans, including those conducting peaceful protests. He should conduct himself as a statesman, instead of pandering to the anthem loving, anti-black cretins.

  64. “Has a player ever experienced racism while cashing their 6 figure game check?”

    ****************

    Be honest with yourself and do a little thought experiment. If you were paid an NFL salary, would you agree to live as a black man in America? It’s a sad commentary on the state of racial relations even today that I wouldn’t consider it for a minute, no matter how high the payment.

  65. What a waste of money with all that security detail. There was 100% certainty that at least one player was going to kneel during the anthem, yet he still showed and left because of that. Pence should personally reimburse the country back for the expenses to be there.

    What’s worst is this is most likely staged by Trump. I guess they don’t have anything better to do than play games with the NFL. What an embarrassment.

  66. Sick and tired of hearing the word disrespect and everyone losing their mind over every perceived slight. I honestly don’t care. Kneel,stand, lay down for all I care. Ugh, get the frack over it and move on….

  67. Nice staged walk out Pence. I will reiterate what I have said before. You cannot legislate or demand nationalism. This has been done in the past with horrific results. You are asking for the 2nd rise of Nazism. It is better to discuss and debate than mandate.

    It does not surprise me tho in the least that this type of behavior comes from the likes of Pence and Trump. They would prefer a subjugated electorate.

  68. I thought all these super patriots posting here quit paying attention to football after their feelings were hurt a few weeks ago. Guess that was faux outrage.

  69. I suspect there is not a single player that would choose to live in another country over the US; kneeling during the anthem is a way to call attention to an issue. It is weird that some of you equate standing for the flag with patriotism when actions such as avoiding the draft, under paying taxes, selling US green cards, etc are actually unpatriotic things that have been done by this president or his family members.

  70. pats777 says:
    October 8, 2017 at 2:06 pm
    What the hell was he doing there in the first place? Trump already declared war on the NFL and he allowed his number 2 to waltz right into the war zone? Great leadership man, great leadership.

    2 1 Rate This

    Ahhh< he was the Governor of INDIANA

  71. No, no, I’m pretty sure he left because it’s 49ers/Colts. They’re both so bad you have to sentence people to watch it.

  72. “Hey trainwreck, the 1st ammendment doesn’t cover speech in the workplace…… which is what a football field is for the players
    Ya ignorant wretch”

    Sure employers can squash it; but clearly the NFL has chosen not to do so. Therefore, the protesters are well within their rights until the NFL changes its mind. Since Pence took a vow to “preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution” (including the 1st Amendment) he should be held to a higher standard and at least tolerate all forms of peaceful protests and expressions of free speech, without running off to his safe space when someone says something he doesn’t like…

  73. To paraphrase the words of Pittsburgh’s military vet and left tackle Alejandro Villenueva, quit using his military service for your politics. Only one side of this issue does this. The protestors have repeatedly said why they do why they do, and it has nothing to do with the military, so quit lying about it for bs politics reasons. These players are better Americans than most conservatives are, because they are at least honest about what they’re are doing and why.

  74. Maybe the NFL will add the right to fire a player and get rid of their cap hit if they demonstrate or protest while in the stadium to the next contract with the NFLPA.

  75. He actually left because there were women in the crowd that weren’t his wife. He’s in the confessional as we speak.

  76. saltineamerican says:
    October 8, 2017 at 1:55 pm
    Has a player ever experienced racism while cashing their 6 figure game check?
    __________________________________________________

    I am sure they have.
    Once you realize racism has absolutely nothing to do with wealth, then maybe you can begin to understand the problem.

    Ask 4 Star General Colin Powell.

  77. “So when the President says that private enterprise should fire players who exercise their first amendment rights, he’s actually going against the first amendment. ”

    Not unless he makes them fire the players. Until then it’s just his opinion.

  78. “snowpea84 says:
    October 8, 2017 at 2:13 pm
    Thats what everyone there should have done. Im not watching any football and I have no plans to watch anytime in the near future. I have also been avoiding brands that are major sponsors of the NFL.”

    Of course you are giving ad traffic to a website that is owned by one of the NFL broadcasters…

  79. greenandgoldgirl says:
    October 8, 2017 at 1:59 pm
    Pence did what cowards do, run though I am not surprised by this at all.
    Instead of running away and using this as a publicity stunt why not go down to the field and engage those who are protesting. Listen to them and find out what this is all about.
    Trump and Pence are a disgrace to the values those brave veterans fought for. All they are doing is pumping up their base. It is shameful. If anyone is disrespecting the flag and constitutional rights it is Trump and Pence.

    We hVe heard what it’s all about… over and over again. Problem is, nobody is taking the next step. It’s just a broken record. And at this point, the NFL is losing fans by the hundreds, if not thousands or more. It’s not just one or two people sick of it. It’s a lot! Local bars aren’t even playing the games on tv anymore. People have flat out quit watching football. Listening to sports talk shows during the week, you name it. I haven’t watched football in weeks. Used to read pft constantly all week. Now, I barely look at it. Partially because every time I comment, it gets deleted, but mainly because I’m just sick of these protests, and these whiners. I even used to go to 5-6 home games every year. Now, I won’t even bother. And I wont sell my tickets, I’ll just throw them in the trash. Sure money is spent on tickets. But atleast if there’s 4 less people, that’s less revenue for them. When these guys who feel so strongly about inequality, actually put their money where their knee is, and start putting an effort into the change they wish to see, rather than not doing anything, and they actually respect the flag and what it stands for. Then maybe I’ll start to watch again. But right now, I just don’t even care. I just like coming on every Sunday just to hear how many of these overpaid babies take a knee.

    Go ahead… take a knee.. especially after we saw so many law enforcement, and medical personnel risking their lives last week in vegas to save people. Those very same people are ones that protect and serve you. Whether you like it or not, we need them, more than we need the NFL!

  80. nhpats says:
    October 8, 2017 at 1:50 pm
    Were the SFplayers protesting the 70% of black families where loads live with only a single parent?
    ________________________________________________________________
    35,000 falsely convicted is Suffolk County alone.

    4billion for prisons and enforcement of the Crack Scourge of the 80’s-90’s but 40 million proposed for treatment of the “opiod epidemic” in heartland america.I can’t imagine how many “families” have fallen victim to systemic racism.

  81. @ldbeachtecorion61

    no one has referenced your comment because it reflects your lack of understanding of law, the Constitution & basic human rights. (consider this a refresher of your elementary school civics class)

    If a citizen kills another citizen, ideally they are arrested for their crime, tried for it and, if found guilty, sentenced for that crime. Police are not authorized to be the judge, jury & executioner, irrespective of how citizens respond to, or committed crimes against, each other.

    I hope that no one in your family is ever pulled over for “failure to signal”, for a malfunctioning tail light, or other minor infraction & ends up in the morgue. If, God forbid, it ever happens, you *may* understand the protests. They’re NOT about disrespect of the flag, the military or other “red herrings” that some claim.

    I hope this helps you to avoid sounding less than well informed.

  82. Hey florio, hate to break the news to you but most of commenters on your site are unbelievably racist.

    Personally I like internet racists less than I like the tiki torch rubes. At least they have the balls to say what they say in public. On the net it’s just a bunch of snowflake cucks who would pee their pants if confronted in person.

    The nfl needs to come out in full support of its players.

    Oh, and to the commenter who thinks blacks guys kneeling at anthem “created” “more racism” you sir are the single dumbest person on the planet.

  83. San Francisco losers. Scum. I hope they all get concussions. LOW IQ mongrels. Concussions might improve them.
    ——-
    Why don’t you call them what you really want to call them? Be a man and say it because you know it’s there.

  84. ldbeachtecorion61 says:
    October 8, 2017 at 1:33 pm
    ENOUGH OF THIS ALREADY!
    You have made your point! We get it! The fans cant do much more, you are just about to lose the people who pay your wages.
    You are taking it too far, FAR more Blacks are being killed by your own than bu Cops! If this isn’t you being Racist toward White people why haven’t I heard a single comment about my point??
    ———————–
    You clearly don’t get it. Your tickets, parking, and concession purchases contribute almost nothing to player salaries.

    You so called fans are not going anywhere regardless of how much you of a tattoo you throw every week. Ratings haven’t declined so you all clearly don’t care about players kneeling as much as you claim.

    Finally, enough with the black on black crime already. It’s been debited thoroughly. You are much more likely to be killed by someone you know than not so equating it simply to race is creating a straw man argument.

    If you really care about crime in this country which is an American problem then pitch in and do something about it.
    *************************************************************************************

    Have you actually WATCHED the Videos of these shootings?? Every one I have seen would have been avoided IF the person would comply,or RUN, or Follow the Polices instructions!
    but no they have to Argue, resist, fight with the officers.
    I have had contact or known Cops that were total jerks, but put yourself in the COPS SHOES
    close to 20 to 1 more Policemen are shot by Blacks than Blacks by Cops. Also have you wondered why no other Minority group has joined Blacks in the protest?
    Perhaps it would be a better point for players to kneel to inform ALL people that IF STOPPED COMPLY, DON’T RESIST, Don’t RUN, Don’t ARGUE with Law Enforcement. I am so sick of the poor me card. This Country has tried very, very hard, to resolve race issues.
    Get all the facts, read, Don’t let emotion blind you.
    Open your eyes to the real issue, A Federal 10 year study of CONVICTIONS shows 8% of the population were guilty of 54% of Violent crime! If it Looks like a Duck!

  85. Pence made that statement because his daddy Donald told him to. In reality, he had a flight to catch for a fundraiser.

  86. vjack says:
    October 8, 2017 at 2:09 pm

    Their “concerns” are that about 120 or so black men were killed by cops last year. Why they’re not equally concerned about the 8,000+ blacks killed by other blacks is the question.

    ————–

    You shouldn’t make up facts, there is enough misinformation out there already. And PFT shouldn’t publish such rubbish.

    According to the Washington Post Database on the subject, last year (2016) 233 blacks were killed by police and 466 whites were killed by police, not 120 or so blacks. And where did you get the 8000 killed figure?

    And bringing your dingbat “Soros grand conspiracy” theory into the mix makes you seem like an Alex Jones nut job.

  87. Haha, so they buy tickets for him and his wife, and secret service, and then leave before the game? How is that hurting the NFL. You just paid them.

  88. dcpatfan says:
    October 8, 2017 at 2:32 pm
    nhpats says:
    October 8, 2017 at 1:50 pm
    Were the SFplayers protesting the 70% of black families where loads live with only a single parent?
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    35,000 falsely convicted is Suffolk County alone.

    4billion for prisons and enforcement of the Crack Scourge of the 80’s-90’s but 40 million proposed for treatment of the “opiod epidemic” in heartland america.I can’t imagine how many “families” have fallen victim to systemic racism.

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    Don’t you believe much of this has to do with kids growing up without both a mother and a father?

  89. Everyone knows Pence is a useless tool and look at the problems REAL fans had due to extra security for an idiot that spends one series at the game. They call him “No Clue” Pence behind his back, but to his face, I’d say – stay the hell away from my games – you and Fifty Shades of Orange have screwed this country up enough. There’s Donnie Boy trying to hide the Russian investigation by playing “wag the dog” with North Korea. Then, he takes on the NFL for kneeling & not “allowing” helmet-to-helmet hits. Donnie – that causes concussions, mental derangement, but those illnesses seem to work for you – just look how far you’ve gotten with that warped brain of yours. You spill more bull crap from your lips than you’d find at a rodeo. So, in conclusion, Pence, Trup, don’t venture out of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. You guys are like the plague, so let’s contain this administration before all they wanted hatred spreads. Nuff said

  90. roseann894 says:
    October 8, 2017 at 1:35 pm
    Here’s what the owners ought to do: tell their white players and fans if they can’t understand why the black players are upset by a blatant racist being elected president, shut up about it and let the black players protest however they see fit. And if the white supremacists among the fans don’t like it, stop attending NFL games.

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    Perfect leftist example above! I believe in “Fill in the blank topic” dont you? No!? You are racist then!

  91. @NHPats

    Actually, Yes. the absence of Father figures in the Black Communities is of major concern.

    However of greater concern to me is how oppression is working to create these problems.

    As a Ranger you would appreciate my Father. He was nicknamed “The Bull.” He served in both the European and Pacific Campaigns WWII. Until his dying day he was bitter he never served in the Ranger Corps. He often talked abut it. It was never a matter of His abilities. He was just Black. Now I realize we are in a different era. But i just don’t know what forces are at play here 50 years later

  92. For the love of all that is good! Please people do RESEARCH and STOP regurgitating false information. Trump did not “dodge” any drafts, there were student issued pass and medical evals that did not allow him to join. Same issue for the other side of the argument as well. You all are too lazy to look up information and just puke out the lame and false info that’s spewed by 90% of the other lazy people

  93. mrzazz41387 says:
    October 8, 2017 at 2:44 pm
    Haha, so they buy tickets for him and his wife, and secret service, and then leave before the game? How is that hurting the NFL. You just paid them.

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    If you seriously think any celebrity or politician “Pays” to go to a game. You don’t know how the world works. And if you think the secret service has to buy a tickets to protect a client at a game, I can only hope you are trying to joke and be funny

  94. mackcarrington says:
    October 8, 2017 at 1:30 pm

    Why does everyone want to make this into a thing where the players are somehow protesting against the Armed Forces.
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    trump started this to serve as a diversion from his daily stupid mistakes and the Russian investigation.

  95. steeldominance says:
    October 8, 2017 at 1:42 pm
    Easiest way to stop the kneeling is to stop letting cops walk free when they murder black people. Problem solved.
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    Then maybe black people should stop committing crimes, and if they must, when the cop says “freeze” they should probably freeze and not try and fight the police.
    Problem solved

  96. ldbeachtecorion61 says:
    October 8, 2017 at 1:33 pm
    ENOUGH OF THIS ALREADY!
    You have made your point! We get it! The fans cant do much more, you are just about to lose the people who pay your wages.
    You are taking it too far, FAR more Blacks are being killed by your own than bu Cops! If this isn’t you being Racist toward White people why haven’t I heard a single comment about my point??

    This comment is off base. More whites kill whites, more blacks kill blacks. Crime is a thing of proximity. You are than likely to be victimized by people near than from somewhere else. Many neighborhoods, are still segregated therefore it stands to reason more people of the same race will kill each other. For the record, the protest isn’t about cop shootings (though that does factor in) it’s more about the descripancy in justice. For example Blacks are more than likely to get a harsher sentence for the same crime that a white person will.

  97. snowpea84 says:

    Thats what everyone there should have done. Im not watching any football and I have no plans to watch anytime in the near future. I have also been avoiding brands that are major sponsors of the NFL.
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    Avoiding brands that are major sponsors of the NFL huh, then why are you here posting. NBC is a brand that sponsors the NFL, they show NFL football. The people who say they aren’t supporting or watching the NFL, sure do spend a lot of time on a site where football is discussed. I can’t take you non-football watcher seriously.

  98. @reprob8
    I hope that no one in your family is ever pulled over for “failure to signal”, for a malfunctioning tail light, or other minor infraction & ends up in the morgue.
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    That is because if we do, we stop, we listen to the Officer, and do what we are told. Every video I have seen shows a total disrespect and intentional refusal to do what is asked by the Officer to protect themselves in an unknown situation.
    I also see people who feel they are above the Law and choose violence first..
    A sad thing to watch are the St Joseph Cancer spots, but even in this horrible position when asked what would they do to Cancer, the little girl says put cancer in a box, other little boy says I’d say leave me alone, the little black boy says I’d Beat him up. It is sad, but shows a Violence first raising SOME Minority Parents choose to teach violence first. NOT ALL BLACKS ARE LIKE THIS My point is clean up your problems before blaming someone else (here Law Enforcement) Remember Cops get killed 18 to 1 by Blacks. The chance of stopping a car with multiple Blacks carrying weapons is far higher than other races EVEN Minorities.

  99. @ldbeachtecorion61

    How do explain the shootings that occur when someone is asked for some form of information, go to reach for it and still gets shot dead. That person obeyed the officer and still ended up killed. If a driver is pulled over for a traffic violation, why does the officer walk up on the vehicle with his hand on his weapon, they are looking for a ticket not a hot one (bullet). But cops use traffic violations as a reason to want to search vehicles, just give him a ticket, that’s the intended purpose. I remember walking from a friends house at 2am, one block from my house, and I was stopped and put on a hot hood of the police car. What was I doing to deserve that treatment (walking)…absolutely nothing.

  100. “I left today’s Colts game because [President Trump] and I will not dignify any event that disrespects our soldiers, our Flag, or our National Anthem,” Pence said via Twitter.—————————–

    go0od riddance Mikie. we certainly wish you and Rump would leave the W.H. it’s sad that after all this time YOU still haven’t a clue to what this is all about. maybe if you or Rump had served this vet would have some respect for you, as it is I have none.

  101. atwatercrushesokoye says:
    October 8, 2017 at 2:10 pm

    No but it covers the right to free speech without reprisal from the government. So when the President says that private enterprise should fire players who exercise their first amendment rights, he’s actually going against the first amendment.
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    A personal opinion is not a reprisal. If Trump were to attempt to arrest the players for kneeling or the owners for allowing it then your point would be applicable. If he attempts to invoke an executive order reflecting that opinion then there might be some issue just from the drafting of the policy and definitely from enforcing it…but none of that has happened.

  102. If you will actually read the first amendment, you will see that, relevant to free speech, this is what it says: “CONGRESS shall make NO LAW…abridging the freedom of speech…”

    This is not a governmental interference with free speech. This is a case of workers, in their workplace, protesting a political issue. Hence, unless the government steps in, and tries to stop these non-violent protests,the first amendment is Not relevant here.

  103. ldbeachtecorion61 says:
    October 8, 2017 at 2:39 pm
    ldbeachtecorion61 says:
    October 8, 2017 at 1:33 pm
    ENOUGH OF THIS ALREADY!
    You have made your point! We get it! The fans cant do much more, you are just about to lose the people who pay your wages.
    You are taking it too far, FAR more Blacks are being killed by your own than bu Cops! If this isn’t you being Racist toward White people why haven’t I heard a single comment about my point??
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    You clearly don’t get it. Your tickets, parking, and concession purchases contribute almost nothing to player salaries.

    You so called fans are not going anywhere regardless of how much you of a tattoo you throw every week. Ratings haven’t declined so you all clearly don’t care about players kneeling as much as you claim.

    Finally, enough with the black on black crime already. It’s been debited thoroughly. You are much more likely to be killed by someone you know than not so equating it simply to race is creating a straw man argument.

    If you really care about crime in this country which is an American problem then pitch in and do something about it.
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    Have you actually WATCHED the Videos of these shootings?? Every one I have seen would have been avoided IF the person would comply,or RUN, or Follow the Polices instructions!
    but no they have to Argue, resist, fight with the officers.
    I have had contact or known Cops that were total jerks, but put yourself in the COPS SHOES
    close to 20 to 1 more Policemen are shot by Blacks than Blacks by Cops. Also have you wondered why no other Minority group has joined Blacks in the protest?
    Perhaps it would be a better point for players to kneel to inform ALL people that IF STOPPED COMPLY, DON’T RESIST, Don’t RUN, Don’t ARGUE with Law Enforcement. I am so sick of the poor me card. This Country has tried very, very hard, to resolve race issues.
    Get all the facts, read, Don’t let emotion blind you.
    Open your eyes to the real issue, A Federal 10 year study of CONVICTIONS shows 8% of the population were guilty of 54% of Violent crime! If it Looks like a Duck!
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    Yes, I’ve absolutely watched the videos. But when does failure to comply mean you forfeit your life when an officer is clearly not in danger. And I speak for all Americans who are unnecessary gunned down by police who do not bother to deescalate a situation before drawing their service weapon.

    Policing in this country needs a fundamental change. Cops are stretched too thin having to answer calls for a variety of issues which can be handled simply by counselors being dispatched to handle emotional situations which cops are not trained to deal with.

    If you’re going to cite a federal study of crime stats please look your sources, otherwise you’re just pulling crap out of air. You claim violent crime is only committed by one race, but you fail to mention the violent white collar crime which has affected all Americans.

  104. From ABC News:The vice president was scheduled to fly to Indianapolis to attend Sunday’s Colts football game before jetting to Los Angeles for a private 6:30 p.m. reception
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    The in air flight time alone is like 4 hours. Can anyone else tell me that this wasn’t a staged display of patriotism?

  105. This was nothing more that a grandstand. So don’t come back. You and dumpster can buy your own league and move away. A long way away. Bye bye now. America will be just fine.

  106. dbeachtecorion61 says:
    October 8, 2017 at 2:39 pm
    ldbeachtecorion61 says:
    October 8, 2017 at 1:33 pm
    ENOUGH OF THIS ALREADY!
    You have made your point! We get it! The fans cant do much more, you are just about to lose the people who pay your wages.
    You are taking it too far, FAR more Blacks are being killed by your own than bu Cops! If this isn’t you being Racist toward White people why haven’t I heard a single comment about my point??
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    You clearly don’t get it. Your tickets, parking, and concession purchases contribute almost nothing to player salaries.

    You so called fans are not going anywhere regardless of how much you of a tattoo you throw every week. Ratings haven’t declined so you all clearly don’t care about players kneeling as much as you claim.

    Finally, enough with the black on black crime already. It’s been debited thoroughly. You are much more likely to be killed by someone you know than not so equating it simply to race is creating a straw man argument.

    If you really care about crime in this country which is an American problem then pitch in and do something about it.
    *************************************************************************************

    Have you actually WATCHED the Videos of these shootings?? Every one I have seen would have been avoided IF the person would comply,or RUN, or Follow the Polices instructions!
    but no they have to Argue, resist, fight with the officers.
    I have had contact or known Cops that were total jerks, but put yourself in the COPS SHOES
    close to 20 to 1 more Policemen are shot by Blacks than Blacks by Cops. Also have you wondered why no other Minority group has joined Blacks in the protest?
    Perhaps it would be a better point for players to kneel to inform ALL people that IF STOPPED COMPLY, DON’T RESIST, Don’t RUN, Don’t ARGUE with Law Enforcement. I am so sick of the poor me card. This Country has tried very, very hard, to resolve race issues.
    Get all the facts, read, Don’t let emotion blind you.
    Open your eyes to the real issue, A Federal 10 year study of CONVICTIONS shows 8% of the population were guilty of 54% of Violent crime! If it Looks like a Duck!
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    Yes, I’ve absolutely watched the videos. But when does failure to comply mean you forfeit your life when an officer is clearly not in danger. And I speak for all Americans who are unnecessary gunned down by police who do not bother to deescalate a situation before drawing their service weapon.

    Policing in this country needs a fundamental change. Cops are stretched too thin having to answer calls for a variety of issues which can be handled simply by counselors being dispatched to handle emotional situations which cops are not trained to deal with.

    If you’re going to cite a federal study of crime stats please look your sources, otherwise you’re just pulling crap out of air. You claim violent crime is only committed by one race, but you fail to mention the violent white collar crime which has affected all Americans.
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    Why don’t you look up the video of Officer Quincy Smith then!!!!!!!

  107. 658 blacks killed by police in 2.5 years.

    Aren’t there more blacks than that killed by other blacks in Chicago in ONE year?

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    Not quite. According to the University of Chicago Urban Crime Lab, in 2016 there were 764 homicides in Chicago, 78% of which were black people, which equals 595. So the answer to my question is no. I apologize for obfuscating the issue with that question.

  108. You clearly don’t get it. Your tickets, parking, and concession purchases contribute almost nothing to player salaries.

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    Really? Then why don’t they let us in for free? Your statement is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read on this website.

  109. itsfootballfolks says:
    October 8, 2017 at 8:02 pm
    You clearly don’t get it. Your tickets, parking, and concession purchases contribute almost nothing to player salaries.

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    Really? Then why don’t they let us in for free? Your statement is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read on this website
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    Do I really need to explain this to you…. Really???

    User your common sense.

  110. @vegaskid21

    That officer survived his wounds. Look at the video of Philando Castile (passenger, not the driver), pulled over in a car with a broken tail light and not the driver. Anthony Antonio Ford, Charles David Robinson, Aaron Bailey, Jordan Edwards, Alteria Woods, Raynard Burton, Chad Robertson, Nana Adomako, Darrion Barnhill, JR Williams and the list goes on and on

  111. Yes, please your smugness, explain to us ignorant folks how a team could survive losing the revenues from tickets, concessions, and parking – approximately 25% of its total revenue and how players’ salaries could remain as high as they are without fans in the stands. I’m all ears, er, eyes.

  112. chc4 says:
    October 8, 2017 at 1:53 pm
    Ironic that those who recognize and applaud the players right to free speech and action would criticize the Vice President for exercising the exact same right. Hypocrites, every one of you.

    So spot on chc4!

  113. I understand all the cheering of this move by Pence- however, I think in the big picture this was a really a selfish act by Pence. The ‘reason’ he was even at the game was because this PEYTON MANNING was being inducted into the ring of honor and his number 18 retired. Manning is the single most influential athlete in Indiana history, and Pence knowingly went the celebration and made it all about this political issue. It’s sad he couldn’t find a better forum. The top 5 articles trending in the Indy Star are ALL about Pence. So I don’t applaud this at all. I’m all for respecting the flag, but you’re at a football game to supposedly ‘honor’ Peyton Manning and you 100% knowingly stole the show. The 49ers have kneeled for 23 STRAIGHT GAMES. There was no way they weren’t kneeling for this one. Much like the protests themselves, Pence’s act was misplaced and did little more than take attention away from productive acts like affecting social change, defending the flag, and honoring local and national heroes.

  114. I respect everyone’s feelings on both sides of this issue. Now, can we all stop talking about what’s wrong with everyone and actually DO SOMETHING to make the situation better for our country’s future? There are many programs in our communities designed to help disadvantaged kids (all races). Shut your pie holes and go out there actually make a difference! Otherwise you’re just another yelping dog.

  115. The players keep saying they mean no disrespect but they are being disrespectful. They either don’t comprehend this or don’t care. Their message is lost due to their actions.

  116. It helps distract from the FBI investigation into tRump’s criminal behavior, so it is a few million dollars stunt, but anything to divert attention from Mueller.

  117. Yep… sounds like someone has a case of the Snowflakes.

    If what the players are doing makes you feel like the flag/anthem/soldiers/cops/fire fighters/whatever is being disrespected, that’s your problem. Not theirs. They see an injustice and this is how they choose to use their notoriety to bring attention to that injustice. Are some of them doing so because they are jumping on the outrage bandwagon? Sure they are. That doesn’t diminish the original message, though.

  118. joeychittwood says:
    October 8, 2017 at 1:52 pm
    Hey trainwreck, the 1st ammendment doesn’t cover speech in the workplace…… which is what a football field is for the players.
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    what an idiotic comment, read something, anything!!
    NFL players are not at will employees, like most of the regular folks, they work on a contract. and such contract does not stipulate anything regarding on how to behave during the pregame (unlike the NBA contract).
    big difference in At will employment, the employer can get rid of you with/without reason. If any owner try to break the contract with an NFL player it will probably have to fulfill the total payment plus anything else stipulated in of such contract.

  119. pence likes to kiss trumps butt…he needs to reimburse the tax payers…or hire another lawyer…which he has done…mikey is going down with the ship…time to go to church and ask forgiveness…

  120. NFL TV ratings continue to drop. 2.5 million fans not watching. Lowest SNF viewership of the year. Major sponsors backing out. Jemele Hill suspended from ESPN. It is a great day in America, everybody!

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