Joe Namath says oppression has “obviously taken place”

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Hall of Fame quarterback Joe Namath’s vision is apparently better than Mike Ditka’s.

During an appearance on Fox News, the former Jets quarterback rebuked Ditka’s assertion that there has been no racial oppression in the last 100 years.

Look up the meaning of oppression,” Namath said, via The Hill. “Look up the definition of oppression, and you understand that it’s obviously taken place.”

While Namath believes that owners of private businesses have the right to limit protests during work hours, he also pointed out that the original point has largely been lost. Former 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick initially sat (and then chose to kneel upon talking with veterans) to bring attention to the unfair treatment of minorities by law enforcement, it has since become a political football spiked by President Donald Trump.

“Going back to what Colin Kaepernick initially did, it was to point out some injustice that’s being done to the black race,” Namath said. “Or to people that obviously when you look — and I say obviously, some of these dash cams and shootings that were done to unarmed people. He was reaching out to try to get it more investigated. So that’s where this oppression thing comes in.”

Asked by one of the host whether he’d participate in a protest if he was playing now, Namath hedged.

“I’m not there, but I’ve never walked in a black man’s shoes either,” he said.

Neither has Ditka, apparently. He just knows he wants all the shoes off his lawn.

79 responses to “Joe Namath says oppression has “obviously taken place”

  1. He originally sat to mope about the fact that he was benched. It was only when he was called out on it that he came up with the whole ‘protesting injustice’ angle.

  2. Let’s get a poll of all current and former players and coaches of the NFL and hear what each of their experiences and perspectives are.

    Then, whenever we dislike what any of them have to say, let’s vilify them online to trick ourselves into believing that we are totally unlike them.

    And then let’s DO nothing else after that.

    That’s what this internet is all about, right?

  3. Only in 2017 could it be true that Joe Namath presents one of the more nuanced opinions on a topic.

  4. On almost every political/social justice article that has been written on this site there have been several comments written that we don’t want to see any more of this on a football blog. Those comments usually get 1,000+ votes and it’s usually a 10-1 majority in upvotes. In a presidential election, that would be the biggest landslide in history. Do you really care so little about your readers as to spit in their faces and dare them to quit trafficking your website? Your readers have politely asked you to stop, but you double down with almost 10 articles before most have even eaten lunch. Please stop. Please?

  5. the flag was still there after a war fought for freedom. freedom is the core principle that sets us apart. If someone burns a flag? Yawn… our freedom remains.

  6. “Looking back”, Squidward was throwing a personal tantrum to get himself cut by the 9ers after he’d defrauded the injury clause in his contract so his money was guaranteed for the year. He didn’t feel like spending it sitting on the sideline, separated from his “Reality TV Hostess”. But, obviously, he couldn’t come out and state that, so he grabbed some handy #TRENDINGTWITTERHASHTAGS to air brush things a bit. When the public finally noticed (after three games and a heads up to a local groupie journalist) it blew up on the same shallow social media world that Kap and Co. live in). Lowest Common Denominator gold.

  7. Okay Harvey Wein.. errr, Joe Namath. Stick to wearing fur coats, getting hammered & sexually harassing Suzy Kolber.

  8. edenprairieballer says:
    October 10, 2017 at 2:15 pm

    You either stand for the flag or spit on it. Plain and simple.
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    Binary logic? You want plain and simple, you should look in the mirror.

  9. Oppression has taken place. Ok, now what. I am not a perfect person. Keep telling me how imperfect I am and our relationship is not going to improve. Does anyone have the ability to lead through positivity anymore or are we going to continue playing the blame game until we all hate each other.

  10. “You either stand for the flag or spit on it. Plain and simple.”

    Other than nowhere in the Constitution does it say you have to “stand for the flag” you might have something there.

  11. Ditka’s brain is oppressed. That guy belongs in a memory care facility. God bless him.

  12. Thanks for being a decent human being Broadway Joe. It doesn’t take a blind man to see what’s been going on in this country since the beginning of time. For him to simply acknowledge he’s never been in a black man’s shoes proves so much about his character.

  13. “nowhere in the Constitution does it say you have to “stand for the flag” you might have something there.”

    edenprarieballer does not have a First Amendment Right to say what he did? I will also say Stand for it or spit on it, there’s no “respectful” protest of the anthem.

  14. Does anyone here actually look at the shooting statistics before commenting, and I mean really look at it and see the most inconvenient fact(s) against the narrative that stares you in the face?

  15. I don’t agree with the protests, all of that. But if you can say Ditkas comments are 100% correct and back him you clearly skipped history class, come on now.

  16. The worst part is that there are people that actually agree with Ditka. It’s like the 70s, 80s, 90s, didn’t exist to them.

    Actually, it probably didn’t – they seem thoroughly unaware.

  17. youngnoizecom says:
    October 10, 2017 at 2:28 pm
    Thanks for being a decent human being Broadway Joe. It doesn’t take a blind man to see what’s been going on in this country since the beginning of time. For him to simply acknowledge he’s never been in a black man’s shoes proves so much about his character.
    ________________________________________________________

    And if you are female he just wants to kiss you which also says a lot about his character.

  18. Amendment I. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

    Hey phony patriots, thes is the document in question.

  19. thelastwordyaheard says:
    October 10, 2017 at 2:21 pm

    Okay Harvey Wein.. errr, Joe Namath. Stick to wearing fur coats, getting hammered & sexually harassing Suzy Kolber.
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    Let’s be fair: who hasn’t done that themselves?

  20. Patriot1 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 2:50 pm

    Amendment I. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

    Hey phony patriots, thes is the document in question.
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    Precisely what law has Congress passed that violates this Amendment?

  21. Think about it this way, from an independent voter:

    Conservatives validate the anthem protest by having a tantrum over it. Liberals relish in the idea that conservatives are throwing a tantrum. The people kneeling aren’t doing it for politics, they are doing it for awareness. They too are happy that conservatives are validating them via tantrum.

    The reaction conservatives want to create out of their tantrums are for the protests to stop. However, their actions are only reinforcing the actions which they disagree with.

    I don’t agree with the timing of the protests, but I’ll defend the player’s rights to do it without governmental backlash. However, their employers make the decision whether or not to create consequences for the protests. It’s their sport, let them make their decisions.

    Boycotting the NFL is cute, but I have a feeling based on ratings recently, that your boycotts via soapbox aren’t being backed up via sofa. Most of you are still tuning in, even if you say you are not. Some of you are backing up your stance, but only time will tell if there’s enough non-hypocrites to change the NFL’s behavior.

  22. If you get stuck in traffic on the way to a football game and miss the national anthem would you turn around and go home or continue to the stadium to watch the game anyway? I think most fans would go to the game anyway….how did this really even become an issue. Is kneeling such an issue or is it a group of people mad that another group knows their rights.

  23. Patriot1 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 2:50 pm

    Amendment I. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

    Hey phony patriots, thes is the document in question.
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    Hey snowflake: The players can exercise their right, but the owners can also exercise their right by penalizing the player. It works both ways.

  24. Amendment I sure on your own time but not while at work when someone else is paying you to do a job.

  25. Kaepernick has been radicalized by his muslim brotherhood girlfriend, he’s a useful idiot with no idea what he’s talking about

  26. @ricko112 Where have you gotten the notion that education isn’t valued or prioritized? That may be the dumbest take I’ve ever heard. Most of those school systems don’t even have the proper textbooks or funding. Do you know how bad children of color want the opportunity to have an equal academic playing field as their counterparts? Do you know how much money athletes and celebrities have donated to different school districts, so kids could read the same books as other kids on their grade level? This is what you call oppression when there’s a lack of resources in a community in order to ensure they don’t have an equal opportunity to succeed. Obviously, you’ve never been in any of these homes and you know nothing. The whole notion that education isn’t valued or prioritized is a farce.

  27. Oppression has undeniably occurred. And the dash cam video of the shooting in SLC is undeniable. I try to stay out of these things but to completely deny what is going on right in front of our faces is not helping either agenda. Police abusing their authority is not a new phenomenon and it happens in po-dunk USA just like in the cities. People are finally to the point of no longer being willing to submit to the bullies. There are 2 sets of rules and the cops enforce either one of them at their own discretion. THAT is the problem IMO.

  28. edenprairieballer says:
    October 10, 2017 at 2:15 pm
    You either stand for the flag or spit on it. Plain and simple.
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    It’s living in absolutes like this that makes it impossible to find common ground or resolve issues.

  29. To all the deniers and NFL boycotters:

    When is enough enough? Are you all that stubborn that you don’t want to get on the right side of history even though in your hearts, you probably know it’s the right thing to do?

    It’s one thing when it’s young millenials of color speaking out against injustices, but this is a white man who grew up in a time when open racism was perfectly acceptable. If he can see these injustices going on, why can’t everyone else?

    It’s not too late to get on the right side of history! Remember when slavery was abolished? (Yeah, me neither.) A lot of people were against the abolition of slavery, so much so that they actually formed a traitor political group and attempted to secede from the UInioted States over it.

    They were obviously on the wrong side of history. Look how stupid those people look now. So my question to you all is, doo you want to be on the wrong side of history again in the 21st Century?

  30. I think it’s crazy that people are making a social issue a political one. This is about right vs. wrong, unarmed people being murdered by police. This isn’t about the right or the left, it’s about basic human rights and making sure we put the proper police officers in the right communities so these things don’t happen. They aren’t protesting the flag or the military, quit spewing that false rhetoric. Also, African Americans account for 13 percent of the population, factor that in when you factor in murders by police my mathematician friends.

  31. youngnoizecom says:
    October 10, 2017 at 2:28 pm
    Thanks for being a decent human being Broadway Joe. It doesn’t take a blind man to see what’s been going on in this country since the beginning of time.

    ——-

    Uhhhh, the country is only 241 years old, Einstein.

  32. You’re right Joe. It’s no accident either. Nobody wants to talk about the real issue because we like to think we “earned” everything the hard way. We like to think there’s an equal playing field.

  33. granadafan says:
    October 10, 2017 at 3:37 pm
    Most conservatives and Trump don’t even know WHY players started protesting in the first place.
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    Neither do the players who are protesting

  34. matt2calvin says:

    October 10, 2017 at 3:01 pm

    Patriot1 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 2:50 pm

    Amendment I. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

    Hey phony patriots, thes is the document in question.
    ——————————————————————-

    Hey snowflake: The players can exercise their right, but the owners can also exercise their right by penalizing the player. It works both ways.
    ——————————————-
    Yeah, but the 1st amendment issue comes into play when the head of the executive branch calls for action against peaceful political protesters. A call like that from the POTUS would seem to violate the spirit of the 1st amendment at the very least.


  35. ——————————————-
    Yeah, but the 1st amendment issue comes into play when the head of the executive branch calls for action against peaceful political protesters. A call like that from the POTUS would seem to violate the spirit of the 1st amendment at the very least.
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    Not really, not when the Amendment in question is worded specifically to apply to the Legislative branch of government.

  36. Neither do the players who are protesting.
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    Yes they do. It’s people like you who give them legitimate reasons to continue….

  37. I am the father of TWO police officers. They go into minority neighborhoods every single day to protect black people from other black people. This little fallacy that cops pick on blacks is absurd. The truth is that they get more slack than white people. By a bunch.

  38. Police in the US are out of control, killing people regularly and without consequence. Apparently, a lot of Americans are in denial of this. Today it’s (mostly) black people. Who will it be tomorrow? When they come for you, it will be too late.

  39. rundmtrees17 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 2:24 pm

    Oppression has taken place. Ok, now what. I am not a perfect person. Keep telling me how imperfect I am and our relationship is not going to improve. Does anyone have the ability to lead through positivity anymore or are we going to continue playing the blame game until we all hate each other.
    ——-
    Or, it’s your opportunity to look within, find that imperfect place, and begin to examine ways you can improve yourself – Rather than allowing your EGO to feel bruised. How handle criticism is a measure of ones maturity. Ego feels hurt, and then wants to go to war. Who’s in charge, you or your ego?

  40. rho1953 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 5:35 pm

    I am the father of TWO police officers. They go into minority neighborhoods every single day to protect black people from other black people. This little fallacy that cops pick on blacks is absurd. The truth is that they get more slack than white people. By a bunch.
    ——
    You’re right. All of this noise about unarmed black men killed at the hands of police for so many years is just “fake news”. According to you Reagan should have stopped giving black men “more slack” at the same time he killed affirmative action, right.

    Father of 2 cops, or not, fact is cops unrelated to you don’t respect their badge, or the people they claim to serve. That’s fact. Retired cop!

  41. Harvard U. is being sued and investigated by the DOJ for it’s admission policies. For oppressing black applicants? Nope, for FAVORING black applicants at the expense of whites and other minorities. The pendulum has swung too far.

  42. Well then, we should probably make some laws to prevent people from being oppressed. Ohh, wait…we did that 53 years ago? Some people should learn the difference between oppression and racism. There is racism in the U.S., but not oppression.

  43. edenprairieballer says:
    October 10, 2017 at 2:15 pm
    You either stand for the flag or spit on it. Plain and simple.
    =============================================================
    America is more complicated than that.
    Some people just can’t deal with it so they always look for the most simplified version and go with that.
    What is worse is that they think everyone else feels that way too or should.

  44. DISRESPECTING the flag and the National Anthem is no way to protest anything. I see kids sitting during the National Anthem in the stands playing with their cell phones and I just want to scream at them to stand up. I have no military or public service background but I am so grateful for all the people who look out for me and have died for freedom. If you don’t respect it, then simply leave The United States. If you don’t respect the flag you don’t respect anything.

  45. People can just be whoever they want on the internet. For instance that could be a 14 year old kid talking about having two sons that are cops. Absurd? Yes

  46. Just so everyone knows; this is what Trump has been doing for….wait for it…six months
    President Trumps accomplishments so far!
    1.Supreme Court Judge Gorsuch
    2.59 missiles dropped in Syria.
    3.He took us out of TPP
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    10.Keystone pipeline approved.
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    20. MOAB for ISIS
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    23. Jump started NASA
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    27. Signed 41 bills to date
    28. Created a commission on child trafficking
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    33. Historic Black College University initiative
    34. Women In Entrepreneurship Act
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    36. Reversed Dodd-Frank
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  47. beachsidejames says:
    October 10, 2017 at 3:02 pm
    Amendment I sure on your own time but not while at work when someone else is paying you to do a job.
    ******
    I suggest you purchase an NFL franchise. Then you can dictate what your employees do while at work.

    You can vote by not watching the games on TV. Which many on here said they would not watch. I bet most watched.

    Additionally, if employers allow employees to exercise their Constitutional rights while at work, why do you have a problem with it?

    Look up the history of why flags were created, and the reason for them. Read multiple books about the Revolutionary War, by various authors, to get a perspective of the first ten amendments, and why the first amendment is the first one.

    Sincerely, a 23 year veteran.

  48. He’s right. Oppression has taken place. Key word is HAS. This ain’t the 60s anymore. This guy is living off success he had in the 60s and because of that perhaps doesn’t know we’re 50 years removed from the last oppressive period

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