League needs to address Jerry Jones’ comments

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When it comes to the anthem issue, the NFL has taken a break from its habit of issuing edicts, primarily because the NFL realizes that, in this specific case, edicts won’t work. But when it comes to the newly-articulated position of Cowboys owner Jerry Jones regarding his expectation that players will stand for the anthem, the league needs to either issue an edict telling Jones to stop or grant him permission to implement a “stand for the anthem or sit on the bench” ultimatum.

The NFL has remained conspicuously silent about the remark from the Cowboys owner, despite multiple requests for comment from PFT. And the league has not yet conducted a media briefing since Sunday night, even though these ask-us-anything conference calls have become a regular part of the relationship with reporters in recent weeks. (The next media briefing will be occurring later this morning.)

The silence is surprise, because the league currently finds itself caught between a rock and a roll of paper towels. After more than two weeks of trying, the President successfully has driven a wedge, with Jones (and to a lesser extent Dolphins owner Stephen Ross) surrendering to the perception that kneeling or sitting constitutes disrespect of flag, nation, and/or military, even if those kneeling or sitting insist that they mean no disrespect. If the league tells Jones to knock it off, the situation could escalate into layers of people trying to force other people to act or not act, with Jones trying to compel players to stand and the NFL trying to compel Jones to not compel players to stand.

If, on the other hand, the league tells Jones it’s OK to tell players they have to stand, the league would be inviting legal action from the union. Apart from the fact that the labor deal does not give the league the power to force players to stand for the anthem, the internal NFL policy lacks mandatory language about standing for the anthem (it says “should” not “must”), even though the policy says that players “must” be on the sideline for the anthem.

Chances are that the NFL is working feverishly behind the scenes to get this thing resolved without picking a fight with either Jones or the NFLPA. That solution could be every bit as elusive as finding a broader solution to the anthem controversy.

166 responses to “League needs to address Jerry Jones’ comments

  1. Players are employees. While on the clock or on company property you will obey the rules laid down by the company. Failure to do so leaves your punishment at my discretion. Oh, and by the way, even if you aren’t on the clock, or on company property, and you bring discredit to the company, you will still be subject to punishment by the company.

  2. Many heap praise on Jones and his stance on the national anthem and the players. That is fine. I personally will never throw respect Jerry’s way as he has no problem bringing a player that likes to hit women (Hardy) yet it is a no no to silently and without violence protest a perceived injustice. Peeps stating players are protesting the flag itself drive me batty also..

  3. The NFL Policy states players “should stand” for anthem, not shall stand. It’s a suggestion, not a mandate. Any lawyer would know this.

  4. Isn’t he the owner and doesn’t he pay the players? If so he should be able to hire, fire or play anyone he wants…..

  5. NFL needs to address Jones’s comments and say that he is just stating what is in the league guidelines. NFL players are to stand. As is right in the set of guidelines. Now address it and pass it along to the rest of the teams. Unless…of course…you want to keep on losing business.

  6. Does the league need to address his comments? Its his team, its his game that the players are “potentially” protesting during – doesn’t Jerrah have the right as the employer to dictate what his employees do while on the clock?

    The players do not have the right to do anything they want while working – and make no mistake about it – while they are at the stadium on game day, they are most definitely “On the clock”.

  7. If you protest during the anthem, you make it about the anthem, flag, and veterans.

    Let them come up with protests during TD celebration or some other time/way so there’s no confusion.

  8. Trump tweeted that Jones will “BENCH” players who don’t stand. Let’s see how many Cowboy/Trump fans go for that.

  9. This hypocrite cares nothing about the US flag. Last time I checked, his state, Texas was one of the leaders in promoting the confederate flag. They lost the war against the UNITED states right? Also didn’t Texas try to secede from the Union and still declare themselves somehow a separate entity? OH the patriotism!

  10. No one has ever suggested the players aren’t able to say whatever they want on their own time.
    I really don’t understand the hysteria around players supposedly having the “right” to do whatever the hell they want on the job, including hurting their employers multi billion dollar business.

  11. Seems pretty Simple to me. EVERYONE NEEDS to Follow what Jerry is saying and doing Or this great sport will turn into bowling.
    No One will watch enough games nor go to the games to even support their paychecks.
    EVERYONE is forgetting WE the fans whom HOLD the cards. What ABout Us!
    I didnt even watch the Cowboys, but I herd the ratings were the highest. That will NEVER change. We always will be the biggest entertainment in sports history. on a WHOLE the NFL is taking a beating and that beating will get worse and worse until politics are OUT of sports and not SHOVED in our faces everytime we turn on tv.
    Yes I CAN continue to post on blogs about my disgust with out watching football. One has NOTHING to do with the other.
    This Crap has CREATED RACISM AND DIVIDED US ALL NOTHING ELSE!
    GO JERRY!

  12. Employers do have the right to set limits on employees while they are on the clock. So why doesn’t he have the right to set a standard for his team during business hours????

  13. what doesnt the media get that everyone else gets? we are tired of being called racists & oppressors…somehow im an oppressor when my family wasnt even on this continent during the civil war…jeeze..get over it like everyone else has..

  14. Jerry and ALL the owners just got their 1st quartly revenue reports from the accountants…$$$$…..THEY ARE NOT HAPPY CAMPERS!!! It’s effecting their bottom line so this garabge will NOW stop.

  15. I’m as tired of this protest as anyone, the means having become more of an issue than the message, but I would love to see the entire team take a knee just to call Jerry’s bluff.

  16. Again, for the umpteenth time:

    Like it or not, the NFL players are employees of the teams. If the team owner says you need to stand, like it or not, you need to stand. If you want to break workplace rules, there are potential consequences. As far as the 1st Amendment applying, uh, no:

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

    Nowhere in the above statement does it say an employee, person, whatever can say what they want when they want without consequence. It says CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW, not the NFL owners shall not.

  17. Sorry PFT, but you are dead wrong on this one. The Dallas Cowboys are Jerry Jones’ football team. When those players don a Cowboys uniform and take the field, they are representing Jones’ company and his brand. What those players do on company time is Jones’ business and his call.

    If he believes that players kneeling during the anthem is going to harm his business, then he has the right and in fact the obligation to direct those players to stand.

    To be clear: What these players do on their time is a different story. But while they’re wearing that uniform, they need to tow the line as Mr. Jones has defined it. Why? Because he signs their paychecks.

    If the NFL publicly opposes Jones on this, their ratings are going to tank like nothing they have seen before.

  18. The union should go on record with a written statement explaining why the players are kneeling. Most Americans whether offended or not can not properly explain to a spouse or their kids what exactly the players are protesting and why they are protesting it by kneeling for the anthem. The union has a responsibility here to explain the actions of their players.

  19. Jerry is a players’ owner who will defend them to the hilt (i.e. Michael Irvin). He even knelt with them two weeks ago. Now he’s over it and I agree with him. If they don’t follow the rules of their employer they can be benched. No lawyer can change that.

    Good for you Mr. Jones!

  20. The only way to fix this is to return to the days when ALL players were in locker rooms during the national anthem.

    This is a tough issue for Jones. His fan base in Texas is deep in the heart of conservative country. Those are his customers and his players should help him keep his customers happy. There is a lot of money on the line. ESPN and Jemelle Hill raised the stakes to even boycott Jones’ advertisers. ESPN is supposed to be the NFL’s business partner. If the players care more about social injustice than they do about earning a living, then they should do something else.

  21. True, there are no rules that say that a player “must” stand for the anthem.

    There is also no rule that a team “has” to play any player, regardless of their contract.

  22. Is the expectation that the labor agreement details any and all activity for employment? In that case the NFL, and you as well, should be asking where in the labor agreement does it grant the right for players to use the NFL logos and uniforms in protest? If the owners need it to outline specifically that they can or can’t give an edict foe actions during an event the same must be applied to the players. Otherwise your applying bias towards the NFLPA and labor unions. Have ypu tried to contact the NFLPA to clarify on what grounds they are using the NFL logo and representation to protest?

  23. even though the policy says that players “must” be on the sideline for the anthem.
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    Where? Here is the actual Game Operations Manual entry:
    “National Anthem
    During the playing of the National Anthem, players on the field should stand at attention, face the flag. hold helmets in their left hand and refrain from talking. Players in the bench areas should do the same and should line themselves up evenly along the sidelines. The home team should ensure that the American Flag is in good condition.”
    Note it does not say players must be on the field, only that those who are should stand. And “should” may seem lesser than “must” but any deviation from the manual can result in fines, suspensions or lost picks (“should” Fraudger bother) so you have to stand. Your “must be on the field” comes from a recent league communique doing all the rounds to the media that (as typical) misquotes the rules.

  24. It is not a difficult concept to grasp. NFL players have a right to protest. That right does not protect their employment, only from government infringement. Owners have a right to run their team as they see fit. If an owner does not want to see his employee kneel, he may fire them or bench them. Freedom and Liberty is a two way street.

  25. It doesn’t matter that the players insist it’s not about disrespecting the flag and the country. The action itself disrespects the country.

  26. The league is flirting with danger here. Declining TV ratings, too many boring, unwatchable games, constant discipline problems, etc. personally I look to sports as a respite from the rest of the world’s problems and if this constant bickering keeps up I will be forced to look elsewhere. And I know I am not alone in feeling this way.

  27. I can’t stand the “that’s not our intent” argument. Where does that work in the world? Go spit in someone’s face, but explain afterwards it wasn’t your intent to offend them. Let me know how that works.

  28. Just to be totally fair…
    Mike Pence is an employee of the American people. He protested on Americas tax dollar while on American dime. Had he got into his own car and drove to the game without taxpayer security then he would have been protesting on his personal time. Practice what you preach.

  29. Things definitely turned once the revenue began to shrink. Owners are locked into current player contracts so any reduction at the gate comes right out of their margin. This is the NFL three legged system working — players anger fans, fans take it out on owners, owners go after players. Publicly they are propping up ratings by adding streaming and counting the pigeons that fly over games, but inside the building they know the truth.

  30. I’m with Jerry, and so are enough others that the NFL ratings will suffer. this kneeling crap is what’s hurting the NFL, not the reduced scoring

  31. “Apart from the fact that the labor deal does not give the league the power to force players to stand for the anthem,”

    Technically the labor deal doesn’t give the league the power to discipline for public comments that are negative against women either.

  32. Goodell has done a fine job addressing this issue as soon as it reared it’s ugly head and putting it straight to bed, satisfying all parties. He truly is a great leader that considers all the benefits and drawbacks for everyone and comes to a swift and intelligent conclusion that no one can reject. What a man!!!!

  33. Its Jerry Jones’ team. He can do what he sees fit with his franchise, within the framework of the NFL rulebook. He’s the employer here.

    All of these players are independent contractors. If they dont like working for Jerry Jones because of Jones’ stance on the anthem, they are free to find work elsewhere. Contrary to popular belief, most NFL players are EASILY replaceable. The run-of-the-mill NFL player understands that too, especially if you are a young player still on your rookie deal or an aging vet with very little guaranteed money left. Most NFL rosters turn over at least 30% each season, with some rosters much more than that.

    If players dont like it, simply go to Jones and ask for your release. Otherwise, players need to start putting their mouth where their money is and start protesting now that an owner has threatened they will lose their job if they do.

    Free speech is wonderful. And one of the reasons why its wonderful is that others can express their free speech by holding you accountable for your beliefs.

  34. rogerdw66 says:

    October 10, 2017 at 10:29 am

    I would like to see 3-4 key players test Jones on his bold talk. They get paid regardless if they play or not

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    They can be suspended without pay, by the team.

  35. I would like to see 3-4 key players test Jones on his bold talk. They get paid regardless if they play or not.

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    You dont get paid if you are suspended or released. And a lot of middling players have clauses that lower their salaries if they are inactive on game days (the old “roster bonus” incentive).

    These players know they are all replaceable. If they continue down this road, they will find out sooner rather than later.

  36. Here’s a simple solution….STAND FOR THE ANTHEM and respect the flag and what it stands for. You want to kneel and make a statement, kneel when the paycheck comes and let the community you’re representing cash it. That will get your point across a lot better and you’ll certainly have my respect.

  37. I don’t have a problem with the players protesting if they feel that’s what they want to do. That said, I also don’t have a problem with the owners doing whatever they want to do in response either. What happens between them as a result is something to be worked out between them – the employer and the employee. If the owners are cool with the protests, then so be it, but if they’re not, then maybe the players who want to protest during the anthem need to be traded to a team where the owner is more receptive to the protests during the anthem, at least if they care about playing.

    Those in the media who are freaking out over what Jones said because they think he did an about-face after kneeling with his players a week or two ago need to reconsider what he actually did a week or two ago. He knelt with his players, in unity for what they are protesting, BEFORE the national anthem, not during it. After kneeling and showing unity in protest, they still stood for the anthem. So what he is saying now about standing for the anthem does not contradict what he did with his players a week or two ago.

  38. This argument of “oh they are employees” is complete b.s. Players are the definition of at-will employees, get cut all the time without explanation. If Jones or any other owner really believed the protests were disrespectful/worthy of firing they could just cut the player(s) without all this fanfare. No one is saying the owners don’t have to the right to fire these players; that does not have any impact on whether the players have the right to protest. Both rights exist. The reason no players have been (or will be) cut due to their protest is because the owners care about winning and the bottom line, not anyone’s political stance. Jones is trying to have it both ways with this little publicity stunt. Stop crying about “well if I tried that at work…” – that is irrelevant; you and I are not as valuable to our employers as these players are to their teams. It has nothing to do with whether the team “has the right” to cut these players. Stop crying.

  39. How is it that players can say that they are not disrespecting the flag by kneeling during the anthem, but Southerners are not allowed to fly a Confederate battle flag without being called racists? They often point out that the flag represents Heritage, Not Hate, so surely they should have the same right to define their message as players have to define theirs.

  40. I agree with Jerry Jones, but…is he really the guy who should be taking a moral stand? He’s always quick to defend some of his player’s sometimes “questionable” character issues, but he’s taking a stand against this? Don’t get me wrong, I hate when players kneel for anthem. I’ve only noticed it causing more racial divde. But at least they’re doing it for a reason that they believe is good. Jerry Jones ignores bad character if he thinks it makes his football team better. Isn’t that a little worse?

  41. When you try to force people to do something that’s when bad things happen…if owners ignored the protest it would of been over by now, instead they blackball Kaep and now that the F%^$# Moron figured out this is a way for him to get some votes and pay back the NFL for not letting him buy a team, its out of control….for all you saying you wanted politics out of football but welcome this intrusion by the Pres, welcome to cluster f*(& you created and now support….

  42. League is silent because they secretly wish all 32 owners were strong enough to do this. This continued protest is bad for business. The NFLPA should also realize this is bad for their clients’ business as well.

  43. I would absolutely love to see Dak, Zeke ,Dez and company take a knee, just to see what the old man does. I’ll bet he would eat those words in a hurry. Don’t say it unless you really mean it, Jerry.

  44. These are employees, at their place of employment, wearing their employees uniforms, representing their employer. They are fully entitled to exercise their god and constitutionally given right to free speach on their free time.

  45. surrendering to the perception that kneeling or sitting constitutes disrespect of flag, nation, and/or military, even if those kneeling or sitting insist that they mean no disrespect.
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    So if I spit in your face and say, “no disrespect,” it’s all good, right? Actions are what matter, not words.

    These players have the right to kneel during the anthem, but don’t tell me they’re still respecting the flag, nation, and/or military while they’re doing it.

  46. The league works for the owners. Not the other way around. Players are employees of the owners. The only time the league steps in is when they are enforcing fairness for the other franchises. If my boss tells me not to do something and I do it, I suffer the consequences. Simple concept.

  47. Jemele Hill made her statement “Not on the ESPN clock”. She was suspended for her “private” speech, not at work. Where is the outrage over her suspension for things she did on her own time?
    IF the NFLPA wants to really shoot themselves in the foot, they will try to take this issue to court. Guaranteed, the courts will simply reaffirm an employers right to make whatever rules they wish, as long as they do not violate the rights of some “protected” class, or, some other law.
    The NFL is comprised of 32 independent businesses, with the inherent rights to operate as such. IF the NFLPA wishes the NFL owners to not allow these protests league wide, get it in the CBA, but, they better be ready to give up something of great value, maybe 10% of their income, to get it done. Money will talk.

  48. Don’t see the problem with JJ’s position. He isn’t saying that a player who refuses to stand for the anthem will lose his job. The player still has a job, and is still getting paid. He just won’t play.

    Question? Does the rule book speak specifically about benching a player who is late to practice? Is the decision to bench certain players at the discretion of the organization, or according to specific guidelines dictated by the NFL?

  49. Why are they making this so difficult?

    Either sing the anthem with the players in the locker room, or create a rule saying that the players will stand for the anthem, or get a day off without pay. Their choice.

  50. It is amazing to me to see just how out of sync the NFL, the NFL Players Association, ESPN, sports media, and PFT are with the NFL customer base if the likes/dislikes on stories like this are any indication. The NFL fans, by and large, just want the players to stand during the anthem. I suspect most NFL fans are sympathetic to what is being protested, but hate the manner of the protest.

  51. The players’ intent has been twisted and co-opted and misunderstood. At this point, I think everyone should stand. But if we’re going with the logic that players are at work and therefore have to stand for the anthem as part of their jobs (which it never was before), fine. Stand. But follow that logic all the way through. Eliminate EVERYTHING, unless it a contractual obligation. When you score, give the ball to the ref and walk away. Don’t celebrate. They’re at work, right? You don’t dance and jump around at work! I wouldn’t do an extra thing for the team, the fans, or the media. No more sick kids in the locker rooms or on the field. Those are causes. Do causes on your own time! You’re required to answer questions after games. That’s your job. But keep it short and sweet. Make sure no one is offended. Be a thoughtful citizen on your own platforms. That’s what I keep hearing over and over that people want. Fine! If it’s a job, do the job. See how much the owners and fans enjoy a joyless game with robots on the field. The NFL is over. I’ve been saying it for a while now. It will take some time to see the real effects, but the party is over!

  52. we dont want to see it. any more than I want to hear a waiters politics before he brings me a cheeseburger. The NFL stadium (paid for by us by the way) is NOT a public square and there is zero freedom of speech in the workplace.

  53. “If, on the other hand, the league tells Jones it’s OK to tell players they have to stand, the league would be inviting legal action from the union. Apart from the fact that the labor deal does not give the league the power to force players to stand for the anthem, the internal NFL policy lacks mandatory language about standing for the anthem (it says “should” not “must”), even though the policy says that players “must” be on the sideline for the anthem.”

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    If the NFLPA takes the NFL or Jones to court over Jones telling his players they must stand for the national anthem, the NFL will be done in this country.

    Major League Baseball still hasnt recovered fully from the 1995 players strike, and that was over a decade ago. The working public seeing more millionaire players going to court over the national anthem will set the NFL back to a point where they wont recover.

  54. I’m against Jones on this one. He’s going against the spirit of America. He’s going against what our soldiers fought for. Freedom. They didn’t fight for the flag, they fought for what the flag represents. Certainly the people in Texas are smart enough to distinguish between the two. Jones is betting they’re not. I think this is a bigger slap in the face to the Dallas fans, than it is to our freedom. He’s counting on their ignorance.

  55. In Teddy We Trust says:
    October 10, 2017 at 10:52 am

    surrendering to the perception that kneeling or sitting constitutes disrespect of flag, nation, and/or military, even if those kneeling or sitting insist that they mean no disrespect.
    __________

    So if I spit in your face and say, “no disrespect,” it’s all good, right? Actions are what matter, not words.

    These players have the right to kneel during the anthem, but don’t tell me they’re still respecting the flag, nation, and/or military while they’re doing it.

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    It’s the Ricky Bobby “With all due respect” schtick.

  56. Seems like the larger problem is reading comprehension. We have a portion of the citizenry running around screaming 1st Amendment when they clearly do not understand the concept.

  57. This is his business. He can run his business how he wants. Employees do not make business policy. They adhere to it.

  58. “I personally will never throw respect Jerry’s way as he has no problem bringing a player that likes to hit women”

    What owners do you throw respect at then? Not many have players without questionable issues on their rosters.

  59. cosmoman11 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 10:34 am
    I would love to see Dak and Zeke kneel. I want to see Jerry’s head explode.
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    Welcome back Romo

  60. factschecker says:
    October 10, 2017 at 10:34 am
    Just to be totally fair…
    Mike Pence is an employee of the American people. He protested on Americas tax dollar while on American dime. Had he got into his own car and drove to the game without taxpayer security then he would have been protesting on his personal time. Practice what you preach
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    You act like:
    a) he actually paid for his tickets
    b) his security detail wouldn’t be near him, regardless where he was

  61. I would absolutely love to see Dak, Zeke ,Dez and company take a knee, just to see what the old man does. I’ll bet he would eat those words in a hurry

    He’d find a way but fast to “take the issue under advisement”. He can’t risk not making the playoffs. I imagine if he had to, he’d find a way to make them serve the punishment in pieces, so if they’re up in one game, the players can be sat for the rest of it.

  62. rogerdw66 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 10:29 am
    I would like to see 3-4 key players test Jones on his bold talk. They get paid regardless if they play or not.
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    That is not accurate. They get paid the weekly salary of their guaranteed base. That being said many of their contract $ is tied to various bonus’ like playing time, % of snaps, # of sacks/tackles etc. If you test him and he actually benches you at the end of the year it could cost you dearly. Example – 2 years ago Sean Lee missed playing time bonus that equaled almost $2 million. Would you be willing to kneel if it potentially cost you that munch money? TO some of these players it can be more than 50% of their pay.

  63. escapedconvict says:
    October 10, 2017 at 10:49 am
    I have no problem standing for the anthem when it is my choice. When someone tells me I HAVE TO STAND, then it becomes an issue.

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    Yeah….you are a real internet “tough-guy”

  64. escapedconvict says:

    I have no problem standing for the anthem when it is my choice. When someone tells me I HAVE TO STAND, then it becomes an issue.
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    Then you’re free in this country to find new employment.

  65. collectordude says:
    October 10, 2017 at 10:02 am
    Jones is right.

    Players are empmoyees.

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    Technically they’re independent contractors. The Cowboys and other teams are their clients.

  66. So if he is sincere and consistent, Jerry will enforce this rule on all his employees, including office personnel, stadium workers, concession workers, and ticket takers within the stadium confines.

  67. “AreYouKiddingMe? says:
    Why is it so difficult to understand for some people to understand the nature of employer / employee relationships?”

    Are you a highly coveted employee with millions in guarantees? Jones can sit or fire people as he wishes, but he would still owe the players their guarantees, and the cowboys will still take the cap hit.

  68. Why are people comparing being a player in the NFL to their relatively low wage/worker bee positions at a company?

    Apples and Oranges but most hardcore NFL fans are extremely low I.Q.

  69. “Why is it so difficult to understand for some people to understand the nature of employer / employee relationships?”
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    Because they have never had a job, is my answer to your question.

  70. Eye opening that so many are eager to easily give up their constitutional rights.
    Be careful, read the 1st amendment, it not only a freedom of speech amendment but it also covers freedom of religion and press. So what are you going to say when they take your religion from you? or that you cant bring it to work? Are you willing to give Xmas up at the work place? Where does the taking of rights end, when they take you guns?

    This whole thing is complicated but think it out and look at the big picture before you start giving back what so many have died to protect.

  71. I don’t get offended by kneelibg, but if you are at work and verbally assault a customer or coworker, you can’t shout freedom of speech when you get dismissed.

  72. Fellas, this isn’t like you or me at our jobs….the Teams OWN your rights to work in the NFL, period. You don’t have free will to work at any company you want like me and you. They OWN the players working rights.

    Imagine being in Construction and you have an a-hole boss and he OWNS your rights to work in the construction industry. You can’t pick any other Construction company in the industry to work at without his approval. Welcome to the NFL.

  73. Quit trying to make this a freedom of speech issue. I if I wanted to kneel in the middle of a meeting at work to protest something, I’d be fired. And legally so.

  74. Does Jerry have the right to make this decree? Yes, of course.

    Should he? No, probably not. As long as the protests are respectful (taking a knee is quite respectful, while inviting a discussion) then he should leave it be.

    Sitting or turning one’s back would be disrespectful, and that changes the discussion.

  75. raiderej says:
    October 10, 2017 at 10:14 am

    This hypocrite cares nothing about the US flag. Last time I checked, his state, Texas was one of the leaders in promoting the confederate flag. They lost the war against the UNITED states right? Also didn’t Texas try to secede from the Union and still declare themselves somehow a separate entity? OH the patriotism
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    You’re talking about the 1800’s. How does this have to do with Jones? Because he now lives in Texas generations later? Wow.

  76. “After more than two weeks of trying, the President successfully has driven a wedge …”

    Actually that was done the second Colin Kaepernick started all this over a year ago.

  77. Jerry Jones is not the only one doing this. Dolphin players have to stand as well and I’m sure other teams will as well. Owners understand if NFL get taxed they will lose millions.

  78. The players have said on multiple occasions, they’re protesting social injustices against minorities in this country. Somehow, there’s a group of people who keep saying, “these guys don’t know why they are protesting, they just want PR.” I’m sure Tamir Rice, the 12-year old who was gunned down at the hands of police didn’t want PR, and I’m sure his family didn’t want that either. Jerry Jones not only negatively impacted the way free agents view playing in Dallas, he also alienated his team and the majority of his employees at the Star, including those in higher positions. A dude gets alcohol sprayed on him in a US Flag speedo and there is no outcry. Mind you that’s a violation of the flag code. No grown person should be told they need to stand for a song. Shoot, the third stanza of the national anthem promotes slavery, what self-respecting minority wants to stand up for that? I’ve already seen former players vehemently upset by this and I hope a few players with clout have the gall to kneel and see what old Jerruh wants to do about it.

  79. Let me ask you Trumpkins a question? Just wonder don’t the football players sign contracts? So how can you fire a contractor? You can terminate the contract, but you still have to pay.

  80. Also, players are employees of the NFL. They are independent contractors once they’ve been chosen by a team. If the NFL has no problem with kneeling, there’s an easy civil suit the NFLPA could file for the rights of the players being taken away. Jerry playing with fire.

  81. daysend564 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 11:07 am

    Welcome back Romo
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    Great. They can all be totally patriotic as they go 3-13.

  82. With North Korea, the Tillerson mess, a war of words with Corker, an ongoing investigation into election meddling, etc, etc going on, Trump desperately needed a distraction for his base of supporters. He found it with the NFL. He successfully took what was a non-issue and created an ongoing “fake” controversy. And the Trumpsters have eaten it up! Like sheep to the slaughter

  83. Whatever the league would say is just going to push this uncontrollable roller coaster to an unknown destination. They, like, almost everyone else, just want it to go away. And btw, it would, if the media & president would stop trying to perpetuate the situation.

  84. nhpats says:

    October 10, 2017 at 10:12 am

    Just think…..if Kaep could have beat out Blaine Gabbert we would not be here today

    Another delusional fan lol. Anyways I would love to see the players sit or ask for a trade that would be awesome. kill the brand lol

  85. It is HIS team and he can bench whoever he wants to bench!! I hope one of these fools test him and he sits them on the bench. Just because you are under contract to be on the cowboys doesn’t mean the coaches have to play you. What is next? Someone going to whine because they didn’t get a corner locker in the locker room? Good for JJ !!!

  86. factschecker says:
    October 10, 2017 at 10:34 am
    Just to be totally fair…
    Mike Pence is an employee of the American people. He protested on Americas tax dollar while on American dime. Had he got into his own car and drove to the game without taxpayer security then he would have been protesting on his personal time. Practice what you preach.

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    Making thing sup is totally fair? Pence traveled to the game because he is from Indiana and is a long time Colts fan. He wanted to see the tribute to Manning, and had made those plans before any of this anthem protesting became such a huge issue. The VPOTUS doesn’t have the option to travel without his security detail, and they always travel via official transport. Once he was at the venue, what option did he have when the 49’er players kneeled in protest, disrespecting the flag, the country, and the VPOTUS who they well knew was in the stands. While he may have known there was a likelihood it would happen, I’m sure he would rather have stuck around and watched the game. The kneeling players are the ones who made that impossible.

  87. cheetasnevaprospa says:
    October 10, 2017 at 10:20 am
    Few things have been more fun this year than watching bigoted NFL fans lose their tiny minds over Kap’s spreading protest.
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    Respectfully Cheeta, your comment is part of the problem Just because someone does not agree with you or your stance on something …that does not make them a bigot .

  88. carloswlassiter says:
    October 10, 2017 at 11:23 am
    What happens when Jerry tells the players that if they do not attend church services on Sunday they will not play? Is that OK too?

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    What does this have to do with what Jerry Jones said? You must be one of those whiny millennials trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill!!

  89. This is simple.
    The owners have the right to run their team as they wish.
    The players have a right to protest.
    The owners have the right to fire them.
    The fans have a right to not watch
    And The players have the choice of career change.

  90. If you are knowingly costing the league money then you are in violation of the CBA. Saying that you mean no disrespect to the flag or the military is no different than the ESPN employee stating that when she said “Boycott the Cowboys ” she wasn’t calling for a boycott of the Cowboys.

  91. I’m personally hoping Dak and Zeke call his bluff and kneel. Probably won’t happen, but it would be great to see JJ forced to make a choice between his Ego and his ill advised tantrum.

  92. Making thing sup is totally fair? Pence traveled to the game because he is from Indiana and is a long time Colts fan
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    He flew in from Las Vegas fund raiser just for the game. Then he flew from Indy to New Orleans for another fund raiser. That PR stunt cost taxpayers an estimated 250,000. It’s not just him he’s the VP so he has to transport his entire entourage.

  93. It doesn’t matter how many times you say it’s not disrespecting the flag or the military. It is EXACTLY what they are doing by their actions. Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

  94. The league better look at the demographics of ticket payers. These are the people with income and who loathe the squatters. You won’t be able to replace them with people who support squatting for the National Anthem. And those folk also make up a small percentage of the population as well. Learn who your consumer is and start enforcing a MUST STAND POLICY.

  95. johnsonmarce says:
    October 10, 2017 at 11:57 am
    Another question for your Trumpsters. Does the players kneeling having an effect on your life? Asking for a friend!
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    Well, I’m not a “Trumpster” but it does have an effect on my life. The anthem protests, started because Kaepernick wanted to protest the anthem and what this country stands for, is an insidious attack on the foundations of our society.

    Kaepernick being a communist sympathizer, should be readily apparent. Communism and my liberty, freedom and pursuit of happiness can not coexist. So yes, it does affect my life. I am old enough to have seen what the Communists have done across the globe, how many minorities they have killed, how many gays and their general lack of respect for the smallest minority of all – the individual.

  96. 6thsense10 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 11:14 am
    collectordude says:

    Technically they’re independent contractors. The Cowboys and other teams are their clients.

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    They are unionized employees. They are not independent contractors. Please refer to the IRS publication Titled, Employee or Independent Contractor.

  97. ez0682 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 11:57 am
    nhpats says:

    October 10, 2017 at 10:12 am

    Just think…..if Kaep could have beat out Blaine Gabbert we would not be here today

    Another delusional fan lol. Anyways I would love to see the players sit or ask for a trade that would be awesome. kill the brand lol

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    Really? How much protesting did Kaep do when Kaep was the starter?

  98. carloswlassiter says:
    October 10, 2017 at 11:23 am
    What happens when Jerry tells the players that if they do not attend church services on Sunday they will not play? Is that OK too?
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    Jerry’s rules apply when they are at work on HIS team wearing HIS uniforms. He isn’t telling them what they can/can’t do on their own time. This isn’t complex!

  99. A point of clarification. If you are employed in a “non-union” job, employment is at will, and either side can terminate at will. This is the whatever the boss says goes universe.

    When there is a contract between a union and a corporation, the powers of the employer and power of the union members are explicitly stated in the CBA.

    Either way most owners are not placing this demand, so it is a moot point. Those who disagree of course say owners not mandating this are bullied by the “social justice congregation”. Perhaps some. Many believe it is overblown and will go away when the Prez and likeminded citizens ignore it. Personally football to me is a sport, not a nationalist pageant. I don’t need any pageantry. If you ditch the flag waving pageantry associated with a sport, there is nothing to protest.

  100. factschecker says:

    He flew in from Las Vegas fund raiser just for the game. Then he flew from Indy to New Orleans for another fund raiser. That PR stunt cost taxpayers an estimated 250,000. It’s not just him he’s the VP so he has to transport his entire entourage.

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    In fact he was flying back to DC from the LV fundraiser and instead stopped in Indy for the game. That little stunt actually saved taxpayers money because he cut his travel short by 580 miles.

    And when the POTUS or VPOTUS travel and attend fund raisers the organizations they are raising funds for reimburse the government for added travel expenses.

  101. The union should go on record with a written statement explaining why the players are kneeling. Most Americans whether offended or not can not properly explain to a spouse or their kids what exactly the players are protesting and why they are protesting it by kneeling for the anthem. The union has a responsibility here to explain the actions of their players.

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    Or you could just do a LITTLE research and find our yourself. Again, just be honest, you don’t care about their cause, don’t cloud the issue.

  102. raiderej says:
    October 10, 2017 at 10:14 am

    This hypocrite cares nothing about the US flag. Last time I checked, his state, Texas was one of the leaders in promoting the confederate flag. They lost the war against the UNITED states right? Also didn’t Texas try to secede from the Union and still declare themselves somehow a separate entity? OH the patriotism

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    First of all, Jerry Jones isnt from Texas, he is from Arkansas, Second, yes, Texas was a member of the confederacy, if thats what you mean by “promoting the confederate flag”. Although Texas seceded from the union, there was a pro-Union minority within the state that organized several units for the Union Army. Sam Houston, who was the govenor at the time, refused to take the oath of the confederacy at the time. Third, Texas was its own republic for about 9 years before becoming a state in 1845…..so there have always been people who thought Texas should be it own republic again.

  103. In fact he was flying back to DC from the LV fundraiser and instead stopped in Indy for the game. That little stunt actually saved taxpayers money because he cut his travel short by 580 miles.

    Sounds great, except for this…

    Hours after Vice President Mike Pence left a professional football game in protest of players taking a knee during the national anthem, he landed Sunday in Southern California for a series of fundraisers aimed at helping vulnerable members of Congress in the state.

    So, he actually flew several hours out of his way to go to Indianapolis, then back to California, all to pull this stunt. If he actually had wanted to “save taxpayers money” he would have gone directly from LV to LA…and driven instead of flying. It’s amazing the lengths you people will go to to lie.

  104. factschecker says:
    October 10, 2017 at 12:22 pm
    Making thing sup is totally fair? Pence traveled to the game because he is from Indiana and is a long time Colts fan
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    He flew in from Las Vegas fund raiser just for the game. Then he flew from Indy to New Orleans for another fund raiser. That PR stunt cost taxpayers an estimated 250,000. It’s not just him he’s the VP so he has to transport his entire entourage.
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    Im unclear on your logic. Because he went to fund raisers before and after the game this is a PR stunt? He is from IN and this was a big deal game for them with the Manning ring of fame and statue thing. Or is it he shouldnt be allowed to go to a football game because he is the VP and its expensive? Cause I hate to break it to you but that cat has long been out of the bag.

  105. No refuge could save the hireling and slave
    From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
    And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
    O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

    There are historians (notably Robin Blackburn, author of The Overthrow of Colonial Slavery, 1776-1848, and Alan Taylor, author of “American Blacks in the War of 1812”), who have indeed read the stanza as glorying in the Americans’ defeat of the Corps of Colonial Marines, one of two units of black slaves recruited between 1808 and 1816 to fight for the British on the promise of gaining their freedom. Like so many of his compatriots, Francis Scott Key, the wealthy American lawyer who wrote “The Star Spangled Banner” in the wake of the Battle of Fort McHenry on 14 September 1814, was a slaveholder who believed blacks to be “a distinct and inferior race of people, which all experience proves to be the greatest evil that afflicts a community.” It goes without saying that Key did not have the enslaved black population of America in mind when he penned the words “land of the free.” It would be logical to assume, as well, that he might have harbored a special resentment toward African Americans who fought against the United States on behalf of the King.

  106. charliecharger says:
    October 10, 2017 at 11:00 am
    I’m against Jones on this one. He’s going against the spirit of America. He’s going against what our soldiers fought for. Freedom. They didn’t fight for the flag, they fought for what the flag represents. Certainly the people in Texas are smart enough to distinguish between the two. Jones is betting they’re not. I think this is a bigger slap in the face to the Dallas fans, than it is to our freedom. He’s counting on their ignorance.

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    Why don’t you stage a protest at work today that alienate’s 1/2 your company’s customers. Get back to us on how that worked out.

  107. Everyone telling people to try protesting at their work… does your work make you stand up at your desk and salute the flag while the anthem plays every morning? Didn’t think so.

  108. The majority of fans want them to stand so all the other things should be thrown out the window,we pay their salaries .

  109. My job requires us to clock in, wear a certain dress code, act a certain way in front of customers. Any deviation is a strike, 3 strikes and you are out. It’s like people have never had a real job and think free speech means you can do, say and act anyway you want at work when someone else is paying your salary…insane

  110. kindbass says:
    October 10, 2017 at 2:06 pm
    Everyone telling people to try protesting at their work… does your work make you stand up at your desk and salute the flag while the anthem plays every morning? Didn’t think so.
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    Excellent. You’ve determined the obvious. Now again, please protest at work at the beginning of each work day about something you feel strongly about personally while in the presence of clients that probably dont agree with your stance.

  111. I wonder how Jerry would respond if during free agency players stated they didn’t want to sign with his team because he’s a bigot I guarantee that would change his stance.

  112. kindbass says:
    October 10, 2017 at 2:06 pm
    Everyone telling people to try protesting at their work… does your work make you stand up at your desk and salute the flag while the anthem plays every morning? Didn’t think so.

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    NO, they do not, but if they did….I’d do it…because…..you know…paycheck and all! What people like you fail to grasp is that these players are not forced to play football. This isnt slavery, they are free to seek employment where they want. If they dont like the policy to stand, they dont have to…they have a choice and so do the people that own their team!

  113. No, actually. The league does not NEED to address the comments. People can state their opinion without the league constantly weighing in on it. Good grief!!

  114. Does the league pay the Cowboys players, or does Jerry Jones. Apply a modicum of common sense next time.

  115. The only people with less understanding of this situation than PFT Commenters are the players. I wonder how they are going to feel when the next QB contract is under $1 million because the TV deals and ratings have all flatlined…

  116. drflamehead says:
    October 10, 2017 at 10:03 am
    Dude just try protesting at your work place and see how long you last…..SMDH
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    We don’t blast flag praise and worship over the loudspeaker here at work every morning.

  117. “perception that kneeling or sitting constitutes disrespect of flag, nation, and/or military, even if those kneeling or sitting insist that they mean no disrespect”

    The intention of the players is irrelevant. It is mindblowing that people cannot seem to understand that. Some people find it disrespectful. Bottom line. That doesn’t make them stupid or racist or whatever other names you want to call people. You disagree with them, fine. That’s where it ends because this is a subjective issue. It’s like telling a woman that the comment you made was not intended to be sexual harassment. Intentions don’t matter. Never will.

  118. pftthoughtpolicemostwanted says:
    October 10, 2017 at 10:02 am
    Want More Trump? Because this is how you get More Trump.

    Other than Trump making most of the players join in the protests after Trump’s comments instead of just the handful before said comments,I dont think this has anything to do with Trump. The NFL is losing fans and money that’s why they are changing their tune. Heck they havent even said they will do anything about the protests, just talking about it…That’s not bowing to Trump, that’s being worried about losing $$$ which is really all they care about. JJ was out there with his boys just 2 weeks ago, Trump aint why JJ has changed his tune, believe me on that. It’s about $$$$

  119. “Eye opening that so many are eager to easily give up their constitutional rights.
    Be careful, read the 1st amendment, it not only a freedom of speech amendment but it also covers freedom of religion and press.”

    Holy moly. You have no understanding of the first amendment if that is your take away. I suggest YOU read it. It is specifically stated that it applies to the GOVERNMENT passing laws to restrict those freedoms laid out in the amendment. So, yes, you CAN protest, and you CAN say basically whatever you want, that absolutely does not mean that your employer cannot discipline you or restrict certain actions you might take. This is middle school level stuff and it is downright embarrassing how many people do not understand the first amendment.

  120. Goodell needs to go! This is his problem. A simple reference to the NFLPA contract clause that prohibits players from doing anything that hurts the team or another player would have stopped the entire mess. Goodell could have said that NFL players would stand for the National Anthem like the NBA and others. There would have been no controversy and no loss of ratings from this topic anyway. I commend Steve Ross and Jerry Jones for protecting their franchises. Employees can be directed by employers to act, dress etc in a certain manner. You see it even in the NFL. Wear the wrong clothing or celebrate a little too much in the end zone and see what happens. The second Amendment only applies top the government curbing your freedom of speech – not your employer.

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