Roger Goodell: We need to move past anthem controversy

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During a conference call on Tuesday, NFL spokesman Joe Lockhart said that discussions about the national anthem would be “front and center on the agenda” for next week’s league meetings.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell sent a memo to top team executives and presidents on Tuesday expressing the same and also outlining some of what will be discussed. Goodell writes that he is proud of the way that players and owners have worked to understand and address the issues that led to players protesting social issues, but that the controversy over the anthem that reignited this fall with President Trump making it one of the top items on his agenda has become a “barrier” to further progress.

Goodell writes that the league believes that everyone should stand for the national anthem, which echoes the language in the league’s operations manual. Lockhart said that the issue will be “front and center” on the agenda for next week’s ownership meeting, suggesting that  the wording could change so that players “must” stand without being collectively bargained with the NFLPA.

Goodell does not delve into that question, but writes that the league needs to “move past this controversy” and work with players to address the issues at the core of the protests that have taken place around the league over the last two years. His memo lays out some of the ways the league hopes to do that and the entire memo can be found right here.

135 responses to “Roger Goodell: We need to move past anthem controversy

  1. Good luck with that one Rogge. How about this idea, stop playing it and stop taking taxpayer money from the DOD to do so. Novel concept, but you know that the greed consumes that league.

  2. “Goodell writes that he is proud of the way that players and owners have worked to understand and address the issues that led to players protesting ”

    So the players and owners worked to understand why Kaep could not beat our Blaine Gabbert?

  3. You really want to “move past this controversy”? Then you either need to resign or the owners need to fire you for your gross incompetence in this matter.

  4. We as fans HAVE moved past it. It’s a non-factor in whether I’ll watch games or not. It’s not until after the anthem that I’m usually sitting down to watch the game anyway.

  5. Recent poll showed that favorability ratings for the NFL have dropped over 30% since Trump weighed in on the matter. Down to 40% which is lower than Donald’s. League is losing this PR battle big time and it’s showing up at the gate.

  6. How about you start a fund aimed at helping to quell the murder of unarmed citizens by the police, Roger?

  7. Is that really a Commissioner level memo in a billion dollar enterprise? It sounds like something an 8th grader would read over the PA during morning announcements. Their inability to understand 9th grade science finally makes sense.

  8. How about this…If you’re on the the field (as the owner) my field you will stand, if you choose not to stand then you are to remain in the lockerroom until the completion of the anthem.

    Feel free to discuss your cause during any of the mandatory NFL pressers if the media asks you to participate.

  9. It’s served its purpose. To distract a gullible public from the failures of the current administration. Time to move on to the next shiny thing.

  10. Sorry Charlie. It’s just beginning and you are forever going to be know as the person who brought down the NFL. This debacle and the forced European/Mexican/Chinese migration are going to be the leagues undoing.

  11. Just like Tebow will always be remembered more for his kneel than his actual play, so will it be for Kaepernick.

  12. You should do your job and enforce the rules on the books that the players will stand at attention during the anthem and hold their helmets. Then maybe America will move past it.

  13. And Trump needs to keep it at the forefront to distract from his lack of accomplishments as POTUS.

  14. Why is the President of the United States concerned about the political beliefs of idealistic young people in their 20’s? If he went to any college campus and demanded the students stand for The Anthem, and I guarantee you 20% of them wouldn’t. He is the president not the dictator of the United States and should be more concerned about more important issues. ….and yes, I voted him.

  15. Boy, that’s funny, he seems to be able to string out other controversies that are his self-interests to the extent that he makes sloths look like sprinters but now after a few weeks he needs to move on. LOL

  16. He is right. Even amongst people I know who strongly support the protesting there seems to be fatigue growing. They’ve reached a ‘Ok, this has been going on long enough.’ ‘The message has been muddled by the flag/anthem, we need to do something different.’ phase where even they are waffling on whether things should continue.

    I dont care what your political leanings are, it’s easy to see Trump and his side have in a sense “won” this argument. It’s turned into protesting taking place during the anthem = disrespecting the flag and lack of patriotism. Right or wrong, that is what it has become.

    People can say they don’t mean any disrespect to the anthem or flag, but other people view it that way. Even Nate Boyer, who advised Kaepernick not to sit but to kneel as a way to try and not disrespect the military, agrees that it has at least something to do with the flag and that symbolism. He asks if not, why has no player done any other type of protest at different points pre/post game?

    He makes a great point. As attention grew on the protest and it became a national story as opposed to a sports story the protests became “anthem protests.” It was bound to happen. Where and how you protest matters, just as what you are protesting does. If you protest racial injustice/police brutality/etc at military funerals no one would accept as an answer: “No, wait. You have this all wrong. We have great respect for the military. We aren’t protesting them. We just want to highlight injustice.’ So it’s easy to see why so many don’t just easily accept exploiting the anthem for attention.

  17. hailtotheking1897 says:

    Owners are in favor of a forced display of patriotism.
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    It’s called respect. A behavior. Something an employer can demand of you in front of paying customers.

  18. Agreed. Can’t believe it makes national headlines and stirred the pot this much. Politicians (one in particular) and media to blame in fueling this “manufactured outrage.”

    Perhaps we should focus on economic strength and stability, nuclear proliferation, suppressing international terror cells, etc…..instead of whether or not some dude stands during a song before a football game.

  19. waldoampere says:
    October 10, 2017 at 1:46 pm
    Hopefully the president and VP are finished with their cheap publicity stunts and the controversy will just die a quick and natural death.

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    Oh come on now, you’re not awaiting the game that they show up together and start a fist fight in the skybox over “who’s hands are bigger.”

    Now THAT I’d pay to go see.

  20. The owners desperately need to have Colin Kaepernick attend this meeting to add even a shred of legitimacy to whatever decisions come out of it. He is the spokesman for the opposition and simply has to be a part of the decisions.

    I still have not seen any statements from the NFL about advocating improved training for police officers, more community outreach, a call for prosecution for murders by police officers, etc. Did I just miss that?

    Whenever someone like Jerry Jones (who has not served in the military) shoots off his mouth about the flag without even mentioning the reason for the protests, I get a feeling of despair.

  21. As long as the players are wearing the uniform they get paid to wear, they need to abide by the wishes of their employer. Until there is full compliance, expect this issue to continue to fester and erode the public’s affinity for their entertainment product.

  22. Letting politicians stir up the uneducated for their own agenda of distraction. How about the government stop paying the NFL for these over the top half time tributes to increase recruiting?

  23. I get sick to my stomach every time I see a player kneel during the National Anthem. Enough is enough. If anybody wants to kneel stay in the locker room and kneel with the other idiots in private.

  24. hailtotheking1897 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 1:48 pm

    Owners are in favor of a forced display of patriotism. Sounds very North Korea like to me. But domestic violence and DUIs are tolerable. Lol
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    Actually true. And the amount of downvotes is downright scary. The fact that most Americans don’t realize they live under an oppressive regime is astounding. Sheep.

  25. Keep the players off the field until after the song. Don’t give them a choice in the matter. I am sick of the politics. I watch football to escape politics, not for the political perspective of a 25 year old rich kid.

  26. medialovesthecowboys says:
    October 10, 2017 at 2:05 pm
    hailtotheking1897 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 1:48 pm

    Owners are in favor of a forced display of patriotism. Sounds very North Korea like to me. But domestic violence and DUIs are tolerable. Lol
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    Actually true. And the amount of downvotes is downright scary. The fact that most Americans don’t realize they live under an oppressive regime is astounding. Sheep.

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    Funny thing is that even though they’ve “boycotted” football after “20 years of fandom” because someone else does patriotism differently, they still come to PFT to downvote comments.

  27. Goodell threw gas on the fire when Trump brought it up. He buckled to the Players Union and then went running for owner support. He thought he would push Trump to drop the whole thing and got his darling media and TV networks to demand a presidential apology. The majority of fans stand behind the anthem. Trump has stood his ground and now Goodell has to back down and ask for it to go away. The man is a tool and a puppet of some of the most out of touch business owners in the world.

  28. Many of us fans have been telling you for over a year that the protests were divisive, were getting in the way of any real progress, and would eventually cost the NFL money. Sometimes it takes leadership a very long time to catch up.

  29. Commissioner Goodell, the problem is it will take Leadership to move past the Anthem controversy, and You have Zero Leadership skills. Jerry Jones and Donald Trump have Leadership Skills. So Does the NBA commissioner. So, the NFL will likely be embarrassingly stuck in the mud on the anthem controversy for a while longer.

  30. Oh my Lord, Goodell is the epitome of an empty suit. First Goodell comes out and supports the “right” of players to kneel during the anthem, and (very stupidly) attempts to make this issue about President Donald Trump. That blows up in Goodell’s face, and now he wants to “move beyond” it once he realizes that he just messed up, and is costing the league and its sponsors revenue.

    I miss Pete Rozelle, who had his faults but at least had a back bone and would have told the players in no uncertain terms that they will stand for the anthem. Goodell is so controlled by political correctness, he can’t make a decision without sticking his finger in the air to see which way the PC winds are blowing on any given day.

  31. Anyone taking their cues on patriotism from our draft dodging, POW trashing President was probably unenlightened enough to vote for him.

  32. The problem is that a lot of fans have also decided to move on and not waste time and money on Roger Goodell’s business venture but do more productive things instead. The fans base has been getting older and older and the NFL and players have been going out of their way to alienate them in chasing younger casual fans. The problem is young guys (18-24)consume a lot less sports because they have a 1000 channel streaming universe and Xbox culture to amuse them now. Funny to see the rise of spectator Esports kind of matches the fall in NFL attendance. The NFL has way bigger problems in the future than anthem protest with this kind of apathy.

  33. medialovesthecowboys says:
    October 10, 2017 at 2:05 pm
    hailtotheking1897 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 1:48 pm

    Owners are in favor of a forced display of patriotism. Sounds very North Korea like to me. But domestic violence and DUIs are tolerable. Lol
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    Actually true. And the amount of downvotes is downright scary. The fact that most Americans don’t realize they live under an oppressive regime is astounding. Sheep

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    What you are complaining about actually is that people aren’t being sheep. You do want sheep, but you want them to be your sheep. You are not being oppressed when people voice disagreement with your views. You got to speak your mind, the players were allowed to speak theirs. Neither you nor they ever got oppressed. But you forget that your tights don’t guarantee agreement. You are not allowed to oppress those that disagree with you. They too are free to voice their opinions.

  34. medialovesthecowboys says:
    October 10, 2017 at 2:05 pm
    The fact that most Americans don’t realize they live under an oppressive regime is astounding. Sheep.
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    The fact that you believe we live under an ‘oppressive regime’ is astounding and proof you don’t get out much.

  35. Until the miscreants stop squatting for the National Anthem and all cease and desist to display the overt racist raised fist when standing, we have nothing to talk about.

    Fire these clowns and hire people who do more than to pay lip service to respect when they show everything to the contrary.

  36. Maybe we should change our Constitution to say that “Freedom of Speech to be determined by our employers”. I don’t think this will increase the amount of people watching. I think the decline is due to more games televised than people have time to watch.

  37. No, we will not be silenced. This is only going to get worse for you, Roger. This is what systematic oppression looks like everyone!

  38. I haven’t watched one second of a game in 3 weeks. I have to say swapping out Sundays of sitting on the couch and drinking beer for yard work on a beautiful day, leisurely enjoying lunch out instead of running home to be in front of the TV at 1PM, walking the dog and going to the kids volleyball games has been a great improvement. Thanks, Rodge!!!

  39. Member when players were patriotic and stood to show their support for the heroes that allowed them to get paid thousands, if not millions, to play a sport for a living?

    Member when the NFL had honor and respect for those who MAYBE got a chance to watch a game from a war zone?

    Member when players saved politics for personal times since hard working men and women pay money to just be entertained for a few hours?

    I sure member.

  40. An in-season platform to promote the work of our athletes on these core issues…What work have the players actually done on these core issues aside from kneeling???

  41. >ipdaily69 says:
    >As long as the players are wearing the uniform they get paid to wear, they need to abide by the wishes of their employer.

    It’s never that simple when you’re dealing with a unionized workforce, whether at the grocery store, in Hollywood, or in the NFL.

  42. “I get sick to my stomach every time I see a player kneel during the National Anthem”.

    You care way too much about this issue if you literally become nauseous. Try some introspection to develop some self-worth, instead of attaching your identity to issues that have no personal effect on you.

  43. veddermn8 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 2:25 pm
    So Goodell wants a favor from the players…or what? The article 46 hammer drops?

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    He lacks the backbone to make the call because either way is going to have consequences.

    He can tell the owners to make their players stand in accordance to the rules. But if an owner refuses (and they can) that’s awkward. And if he does actually sanction players that’s going to get awkward (someone will file suit about first amendment rights and lose, but it will cost millions). Plus a large number of fans will boycott.

    Or he could rescind the rule (NFLPA would walk right with him on that one) or give some sort of public order it not be enforced. And public ally state that the position of the NFL is that the players can protest any way they like at games. But if an owner refuses to allow it (and they can) that’s awkward. Plus a large number of fans will boycott.

    Goodell doesn’t like either of these scenarios so he is trying to squirm between them to see if he can avoid either set of consequences. (I don’t think he can). But that’s the cost of letting the NFL get involved in the first place. A stronger leader would have seen this all coming and put it to bed before it blew up. (Goo dells first strategy was to close his eyes and hope it goes away)

    The one person that has no say whatsoever here is Donald Trump btw. Just wanted to point that out since he seems to be saying the most. He has his first amendment rights too so let him rip if he wants to. But it’s all meaningless noise to anyone that is willing to just tune it out and not let it get their goat.

  44. the players have already shown they’re too emotionally immature to handle the anthem responsibly. Thus, keep them in the locker room until it’s over. This is the only logical way to handle the current situation.

  45. “…with President Trump making it one of the top items on his agenda…”

    It would take a super computer a month to prove this due to the sheer volume of candidates for the top spot, but I would wager this to be the stupidest phrase you ever published on this site. Deregulation, immigration and border security, healthcare reform, disaster relief, terrorism intel, and tax reform are what he spends his days on.

    He trolls the left for fun before bed. It’s right up there with with the color scheme in the Oval office on the priority list. The media, in its self importance, thinks it’s higher than it is.

  46. Trump just won. We’ll be seeing a twitter post from Trump soon boasting how he got the NFL and it’s billionaires to do what he wanted.Sad part is Trump is a child and would never have let this go until the NFL stopped. Unfortunately the NFL had more at stake if the continued to stand against Trump/let players kneel so sooner or later they would’ve cracked anyway.

  47. jeffmage says:
    October 10, 2017 at 2:02 pm
    The owners desperately need to have Colin Kaepernick attend this meeting to add even a shred of legitimacy to whatever decisions come out of it. He is the spokesman for the opposition and simply has to be a part of the decisions.

    WHAT????? Are you serious? How is it not sinking in that this was never his intent? He perverted this into a “cause” when he was being slammed for sitting his lame behind on the bench pouting. It’s one thing to have an actual conscientious objector leading the charge but not this phony opportunist. Even sadder, the bandwagon riders that have hijacked this clowns self serving actions and have bastardized them for their own self righteous moment in the sun.

  48. Then fire yourself Goodell….You have rules about everything, including the anthem (until recently). You allowed a small group of players to hijack your theater stage. It’s your fault.

    Remember when the theater group performing the Broadway play Hamilton stopped the show to lecture the VP on social justice issues in front of the crowd and he politely listened and then left? That was “free speech” right? And then he leaves a sports event because he disagrees with the demonstrations of the participants, and some how that’s not him exercising his right to “free speech and it’s a political stunt?” And what the players are doing is not a stunt? A disrespectful political stunt at that? Hypocrisy knows no bounds….

  49. jeffmage ,

    Because like I said when the owners did it, they couldn’t have cared about the protests. They were protecting their egos and their brand. Trump called them cowards. That got them off the porch. Otherwise, they all agreed with him. They are clowns. And you know one way to get young people to defy you even more, try to force them to do something. I want to see this one. Maybe the whole league can spontaneously combust right in front of us. There were still 6 players who were protesting this year before 2 weeks ago. Count them, 6. Our failure of a President is the one who made this an issue by picking a fight with a league again that didn’t want him.

  50. What other league allows anthem protests? NBA? No. Soccer? No. Because everyone knows it is very bad for business as a whole. Even soccer players in other countries stand for their anthem and sing it.

  51. He is a good flip flopper so he should probably look to politics next which is where he probably belongs along with all those other useless folks as he is horrible at his current job.

    Sept 23 he is slamming the president’s comments on standing and now a little over 2 weeks later he is agreeing with them.

  52. thegreatgabbert says:
    October 10, 2017 at 1:51 pm
    Recent poll showed that favorability ratings for the NFL have dropped over 30% since Trump weighed in on the matter. Down to 40% which is lower than Donald’s. League is losing this PR battle big time and it’s showing up at the gate.
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    The NFL has averaged between 17.3 and 17.7 million fans at the gate per season since 2012. This year it is on pace for 17.4. I don’t think your “30%” drop is showing up at the gate. Just on the internet……

  53. The only kneeling that should be taking place is Roger Goodell and the owners begging for forgiveness and apologizing to the fans for allowing this garbage to corrupt the game.

  54. As a Vietnam vet I don’t have a problem with the players kneeling for a peaceful protest. As a resident of St Louis I have bigger issues with the NFL.

  55. Oh, for Pete’s sake, just quit giving them camera time. Keep them in the tunnel until the end of the Anthem, and then let them run out during the applause.

    As a retired, disabled vet with 30+ yrs, I fought for their right to peacefully protest BUT, I support their respective employers to not be embarrassed by their protests.

    I am sick of a billionaire president telling the billionaire owners whose businesses depend on playing in billion dollar stadiums paid for by hard working tax payers…and charging our military branches to march on the field or do fly-overs. Hypocrisy at its finest.

    Keep the players in the tunnel and no one’s panties get twisted. They can use the extra time for another beer commercial.

  56. If Roger handled it the 1st time, with Kaep, he would have been suspended, or fined. Problem solved because the buck should stop with the commish. And, Kaep would still be in the league today.

  57. crashdog says:
    October 10, 2017 at 4:12 pm
    thegreatgabbert says:
    October 10, 2017 at 1:51 pm
    Recent poll showed that favorability ratings for the NFL have dropped over 30% since Trump weighed in on the matter. Down to 40% which is lower than Donald’s. League is losing this PR battle big time and it’s showing up at the gate.
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    The NFL has averaged between 17.3 and 17.7 million fans at the gate per season since 2012. This year it is on pace for 17.4. I don’t think your “30%” drop is showing up at the gate. Just on the internet……
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    Strangely paralleling the number of people who said they were moving to Canada if Trump got elected versus the number that actually did.

  58. Sit, stand, kneel, I don’t care. I only watch my team and don’t even pay attention until kickoff. This has already gotten far too much media hype. What’s going to make me quit watching this season is that the Giants suck and most of the WR core ended up on IR after 1 game.

    That said, if I had to guess, I’d say that your average NFL viewer doesn’t take too kindly to millionaire athletes disrespecting the flag and anthem of the only country that allows them to get paid 7 figures (on average) to play professional football. It just comes off as whiny and entitled.

  59. The only possible way to get past this is for everyone to stand, because otherwise there will always be problems. The anthem protests have no specific and measurable goal, so it could just continue on for eternity unless they just decide to stop doing it. I’m not saying they should be forced to stand, because that just makes the problem even worse, as we saw with Jemele Hill vs Jerry Jones. But for all this mess to end, the best solution is for them to stand for the anthem and find another way to protest…

  60. Comish we fans are not as stupid as those taking a knee. Trump did not ringin until game three. Players took a knee in pre season and into the new season. You sir encouraged it by saying they have a right to address grievances instead of taking the side of veterans, the flag, and those that gave their lfe for the country. Funny how that conversation goes missing

  61. Rodger and NFL want this to blow over as fast as possible.

    November is Armed Forces month and any “display” during the National Anthem would be heavily scrutinized.

    Also, remember some NFL players wanted to change November from Armed Forces month to Social Activism month. Yeah. That would really piss fans off.

  62. ipdaily69 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 2:02 pm

    As long as the players are wearing the uniform they get paid to wear, they need to abide by the wishes of their employer. Until there is full compliance, expect this issue to continue to fester and erode the public’s affinity for their entertainment product.

    Hey ip…

    As long as players are members of a union, I believe that, all “changes to working conditions” must be bargained. Roger, and his greedy “puppet-masters” will probably implement anyway and force the players to stand, prior to bargaining the issue. This will force the union to file after the fact and leave players who don’t stand open to discipline in the meantime. It will be interesting to see what happen next…

  63. The NFL has averaged between 17.3 and 17.7 million fans at the gate per season since 2012. This year it is on pace for 17.4. I don’t think your “30%” drop is showing up at the gate. Just on the internet…
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    Seriously asking… Do they make more at the gate or off of tv contracts? Do you have the numbers for the? While I doubt it’s 30% I bet it’s sizeable. Or else you wouldn’t be heading about the owners requesting players to stand when just a few weeks ago they were all for the protests…

  64. I’d love to see everyone in the stadium, players included, kneel and hang their heads in shame at the direction this narcissistic phony “president” is taking this great country.

    Are you looking for a gesture that restores honor and respect to this great country and everything it stands for? Get rid of the confederate flag.

    Start there.

  65. udub says:
    October 10, 2017 at 2:00 pm

    He is right. Even amongst people I know who strongly support the protesting there seems to be fatigue growing. They’ve reached a ‘Ok, this has been going on long enough.’ ‘The message has been muddled by the flag/anthem, we need to do something different.’ phase where even they are waffling on whether things should continue.

    I dont care what your political leanings are, it’s easy to see Trump and his side have in a sense “won” this argument. It’s turned into protesting taking place during the anthem = disrespecting the flag and lack of patriotism. Right or wrong, that is what it has become.

    People can say they don’t mean any disrespect to the anthem or flag, but other people view it that way. Even Nate Boyer, who advised Kaepernick not to sit but to kneel as a way to try and not disrespect the military, agrees that it has at least something to do with the flag and that symbolism. He asks if not, why has no player done any other type of protest at different points pre/post game?

    He makes a great point. As attention grew on the protest and it became a national story as opposed to a sports story the protests became “anthem protests.” It was bound to happen. Where and how you protest matters, just as what you are protesting does. If you protest racial injustice/police brutality/etc at military funerals no one would accept as an answer: “No, wait. You have this all wrong. We have great respect for the military. We aren’t protesting them. We just want to highlight injustice.’ So it’s easy to see why so many don’t just easily accept exploiting the anthem for attention.
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    Newsflash. “so many don’t accept” players protest because “so many” voted for a man who use racist dog whistles in his campaign. It’s not rocket science to understand “who” are against the protesters. Tell the truth about it, instead of writing 3 paragraphs of dogma.

  66. I bet you do wish that “Milk Toast” Goodell. Since you should have enforced your own rules in the first place.

    3 weeks straight NOT watching NFL.

    GO USC!!!!!!

  67. So Mr Goodell it’s ok to break the rules and disrespect the flag, but it’s not ok to put stickers on shoes showing respect for fallen heroes. You sir are an idiot. And you didn’t care until it started hitting everyone in there wallet

  68. Too late. 35 years I spent rooting for the Miami Dolphins. I’d rather spend my Sundays doing anything else than support the NFL, its players or the participants of this site. I hope the sport is gone in 5 years. Go MMA and Hockey! Woo!!

  69. I find it funny that so many of you who think one must stand for the anthem also say you don’t like politics being brought into football. What you actually mean is you don’t like politics that differ from your own view being brought into football. Isn’t it politics when the government gets involved and demands the players stand? Isn’t spreading a huge flag horizontally over the field (against one of the Codes of the Flag I will add)and marching out veterans inserting politics into the game? Isn’t the government paying the NFL to have such displays available for you to watch inserting politics into football. How about we do away with the anthem all together and just play football. That would take politics out of the game now wouldn’t it?

  70. Actually true. And the amount of downvotes is downright scary. The fact that most Americans don’t realize they live under an oppressive regime is astounding. Sheep.

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    Yeah, this is such a repressive government we live under. The tanks in the streets, the spies outside our doors, the way they force us to vote on election day, the billions of dollars from the federal government to rebuild after a hurricane or other disaster, idiots barely able to construct a grammatically correct sentence in english yet making tens of millions of dollars for playing a game. It’s just so terrible here, but the sheep just don’t realize it.

    We ought to move with Kaperdink to Cuba or Russia, lands of paradise and freedom. Creep.

  71. jayhawk6 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 1:51 pm
    How about you start a fund aimed at helping to quell the murder of unarmed citizens by the police, Roger?….

    I would be thrilled with a report and data showing that this happening…

  72. itsfootballfolks says:
    October 10, 2017 at 6:38 pm
    Actually true. And the amount of downvotes is downright scary. The fact that most Americans don’t realize they live under an oppressive regime is astounding. Sheep.

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    Yeah, this is such a repressive government we live under. The tanks in the streets, the spies outside our doors, the way they force us to vote on election day, the billions of dollars from the federal government to rebuild after a hurricane or other disaster, idiots barely able to construct a grammatically correct sentence in english yet making tens of millions of dollars for playing a game. It’s just so terrible here, but the sheep just don’t realize it.

    We ought to move with Kaperdink to Cuba or Russia, lands of paradise and freedom. Creep……

    Great post..And, you may have discovered an option for Colin…The Canadian football league !!! If he wants to really play, play with Trent Richardson and rebuild his career

  73. And now, everyone in America is aware that the NFL players disrespect our service members, veterans and fallen hero’s. Congrats!

    But, Kaepernick is still unemployed, because he isn’t any good. And soon, teams will be shedding kneelers contracts like sinking ships shedding rats…because there are tons of guys willing to play who do respect our Country, who deserve a job more than any of you!

  74. I find it funny that so many of you who think one must stand for the anthem also say you don’t like politics being brought into football. What you actually mean is you don’t like politics that differ from your own view being brought into football. Isn’t it politics when the government gets involved and demands the players stand? Isn’t spreading a huge flag horizontally over the field (against one of the Codes of the Flag I will add)and marching out veterans inserting politics into the game? Isn’t the government paying the NFL to have such displays available for you to watch inserting politics into football. How about we do away with the anthem all together and just play football. That would take politics out of the game now wouldn’t it?

    If you think the anthem, flag and national pride is just politics then you are woefully misguided. It represents the American People. The Military is not politics, it is national protection to be shared and admired by all Americans for their endeavors. If you put the flag and anthem in the back room, how long before more statues finally the Constitution will join them?? A Progressive dream..

  75. Some of you don’t understand. The majority of Americans still love this country, it’s flag, it’s anthem and everything this country stands for. Mess with that and you will piss a lot of people off and the majority of those you will piss off are the ones who work, pay taxes and make this country work. Trump is just some one who knows how to use the bully pulpit of the Presidency to rally those who fill this way. It is simple, stand for the anthem and show some respect for the country that supports many of you who do not work, pay taxes or contribute positively to society.

  76. itsfootballfolks says:
    October 10, 2017 at 6:38 pm
    Actually true. And the amount of downvotes is downright scary. The fact that most Americans don’t realize they live under an oppressive regime is astounding. Sheep….

    Hmmmm.. Many rights have gone back to the states since Trump is President. Thats oppressive? An open trading business environment that has the stock market 25 percent since Nov 8th and at new highs? That oppressive?

    Oppression is forcing bakers to go against their rights
    Oppression is silencing women speaking out of injustices in Hollywood

    Shall I go on? I’ve never felt more free….

  77. If you were one of the silent majority of check cashing owners wouldn’t you expect the people you pay handsomely to move the league past the anthem controversy?

  78. The biggest danger for Goodell is that the NFL has been called out by not just the President, but by a huge percentage of Americans (a Yahoo poll shows that 78% of America thinks the kneeling is simply wrong). Meanwhile, many thousands of fans have discovered that they don’t need anywhere near as much pro football in their lives. The quality of the play has been rapidly deteriorating and you can easily substitute the word “bland” for “parity” when discussing the level of NFL competition. Also, a fair market value for NFL tickets is being established: while players whine and kneel in ill-educated poorly-defined protests, the league waffles and struggles to explain why it can’t enforce its own rules, and the White House regularly spanks the NFL via social media, astute fans wait for stadium seats to go unsold, until they can buy tickets for a song at the last minute. All of this points to an impending economic collapse for the NFL–the league no longer able to defend their outrageous pricing for tickets, stadium food, gear and pay-per-view. Call it a “market correction”, and also yet another opportunity for a competitive league to emerge and challenge the NFL monopoly.

  79. waldoampere says:
    October 10, 2017 at 1:46 pm

    Hopefully the president and VP are finished with their cheap publicity stunts and the controversy will just die a quick and natural death.
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    Hmm…Potus and Vpotus are doing a cheap political stunt and the players are expressing their first amendment rights. Seems to me what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Libs like to have it both ways.

    Also very interesting that the owners control players “free speech” rights when it comes to how the players dress on the field, how they celebrate after a touchdown, the color of their socks, etc.

    Not to mention the poor slobs (me included) who shell out hundreds of dollars to be entertained for 3 hours on Sunday afternoon after we have had all this crap shoved down our throats all week. I used to look forward to a peaceful Sunday afternoon w/o politics.

    And as long as I’m ranting away, If the players want to effect social justice for the African-American community a better way might be for them, on their off day, to suit up in a police uniform and walk a beat in the poorer sections of Chicago, preferably between the hours of 10pm and 4am. And then during the off-season they can spend a month or 2 in the bad parts of Afghanistan with our front line troops. After that if they still want to kneel and disrespect our brave men and women in uniform then more power to them. Until then, I would like to see them stand for the national anthem and play football.

  80. rogerdw66 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 2:32 pm
    Maybe we should change our Constitution to say that “Freedom of Speech to be determined by our employers”. I don’t think this will increase the amount of people watching. I think the decline is due to more games televised than people have time to watch.

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    Are you a product of our broken public school system?

  81. Let’s not forget about addressing the black power raising of the fist during the anthem! I find that just as offensive and a racist symbol. But saying that is not politically correct. Can you imagine if white players showed a sign of power during the anthem? Oh my. Goddell is weak and should have handled this immediately last year. All he had to say at the time was that the NFL football field is not a place for politics. Just like my workplace and millions of other hard working Americans. NFL will never be the same. Nor should it.

  82. I for one wish a new league would form- and base it on real football- not this pball variant that goodell has created, where cheating is rewarded and players with a couple of good years get into the hof (they have to hit their quotas after all)
    I could use a good USFL league – one that stands for the Anthem!!

  83. Players have right to protest. It’s peaceful and does not infringe or stop others from enjoying their rights.employers can’t make you stand for anthems.unless your in military then you lost most of your individual rights but that’s why they joined they feel they have to. The rest of us are not bound to it . Nobody is being harmed stand sit go to bathroom get a beer I do not care

  84. “wte1 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 2:03 pm
    I get sick to my stomach every time I see a player kneel during the National Anthem. Enough is enough. If anybody wants to kneel stay in the locker room and kneel with the other idiots in private.”
    Sure, anything to make your weak stomach better.

  85. Everybody is missing something….think…..

    The week before this whole protest thing started….what happened? Yep…Aaron Hernandez diagnosed with CTE. That story was getting ready to explode….which over the long haul would have been much worse for the NFL than the current crisis it finds itself in. Did Trump throw shade on Roger? Either way CTE is not going away, although they have successfully suppressed it for the moment. The NFL has bigger issues…much bigger issues.

  86. It took a while but the NFL finally came around. President Trump will be persistent, he won’t give up. He will stick to his statement and mean what he says. Regardless of what some of the players and the posters here think he’s a businessman he knows what is good for business. The NFL owners and those who run the league have enjoyed their cash cow and have forgotten that lesson.

  87. Play the Star Spangled Banner at military and political events. It’s military-centric. Just stop playing it at sporting events. The national anthem should be America the Beautiful……..something for EVERYBODY!!!!!!

  88. I wonder what the penalty would be for players who refuse to stand? Thousands per violation perhaps. Let’s see, if it is $5k per offense, then it would cost a layer $80k over a 16 game season. That may not deter some players from protesting. For some players it is 1/10 of their salary, but for a player who gets millions per season, it is a drop in the bucket.

  89. The NFL have opened the flood gate on two massive, deeply concerning issues. 1. cowtowing to players. 2. Relocation of teams. The Charger relocation is a fiasco and has unraveled. The NFL better do something and fast. Goodell has invited POLITICAL CORRECTNESS and LIBERALISM into the NFL. The NFL has let the genie out of the bottle. Goodell is afraid of the players and the NFLPA. Wait till THAT meeting takes place. Joe Lockhart is a Liberal liar. He’s paid to lie, cover-up and dodge important issues while saying “there have been no discussions…” He’s a phony like Goodell. It’s screw the decades old fans and get the money.

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