White House encourages NFL to change rule regarding anthem

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Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, based in part on conversations with President Donald Trump, seems to believe that current league rules require players to stand for the national anthem. The NFL, somewhat sheepishly, articulated on Tuesday a belief that the rules don’t require players to stand — but indicated that those rules could change.

The White House, despite apparently believing that the current rules mandate standing for the anthem, wants the NFL to change its rules, if that’s what’s needed to compel players to stand.

“I think we would certainly support the NFL coming out and asking players to stand,” White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told reporters on Tuesday, via TheHill.com. “Our position hasn’t changed on that front. We’re glad to see the NFL taking positive steps in that direction.”

In other words, the White House is in the process of declaring victory and/or forcing the league into the corner of defeat. The stage is now set for what could be a memorable ownership meeting next week.

The only way it would be more memorable would be if it were televised.

127 responses to “White House encourages NFL to change rule regarding anthem

  1. For the first time ever, I willingly didn’t watch MNF. I DVR’d it and now I’m going to google to see what kind of nonsense if any the players engaged in before I watch their product and absorb their ads.

  2. Do you know why they all stand in baseball?? Because about half of the MLB is from 3rd world countries who have real oppression. Heck, some of them took rickety ships to get into this fine land to escape their government. Then you have these football players who have been treated like kings throughout their career stating how bad this country treats them. Baffling.

  3. By White House, do you mean our draft dodger in chief who skipped out on Viet Nam five times but who mocked John McCain, who did serve, for getting “captured”?

  4. This whole thing was done with Colin Kaepernick out of the league. All a footnote until big Donald Trump had to start talking about it a couple weeks ago.

    Now it dominates our lives. Thanks Donald!

  5. I’m glad that the Administration is spending so much time and effort on this as it is clearly the biggest problem confronting our contury at this time. Thanks President Trump!

  6. h0metownzero says:
    October 10, 2017 at 3:26 pm
    Remove the anthem from the games.

    Problem solved. You’re welcome.
    ___________________________

    BOOM!The words of a genius

  7. Can you imagine if the White House got involved at where you work and started telling your bosses to discipline you?
    As of now players have “permission to speak freely”. Trump wants to take that permission away. Be careful what you wish for, people.

  8. White House Press secretary still holding press conferences regarding a few FOOTBALL PLAYERS kneeling during the anthem?! SAD but i gotta admit that i laugh along with every other person (besides the lower middle class republican). Get a life!! but hey,I guess this would be 45’s only thing he has ever accomplished while playing golf since he became President.

  9. Remove the anthem from the games.

    Problem solved. You’re welcome.

    ——–

    Donald would never allow this solution at this point. Just that idea coming out of your mouth is disrespectful to the military!

  10. Not that hard. Teams will come out after the anthem is played, or player option. Stand or stay in the locker room. Media will find some other issue to hammer on about.

  11. jimmysee says:

    So the “White House” has nothing better to do with its time?
    ==================================================

    Like they spent more than a few seconds to make that statement. And the question was asked by a reporter. Trump knows he’s speaking for the majority because the media sides with the minority and he’s the one voice we have that they cannot ignore. And it drives you guys crazy.

  12. h0metownzero says:
    October 10, 2017 at 3:26 pm

    Remove the anthem from the games.

    Problem solved. You’re welcome.

    ****************************************

    Exactly.

  13. AreYouKiddingMe? says:
    October 10, 2017 at 3:25 pm
    This is getting beyond stupid – and I blame both sides.

    ***

    What’s more, is that one of the sides is the freaking White House. The White House is getting into petty arguments with 20-30 year old athletes.

  14. jimmysee says:
    October 10, 2017 at 3:24 pm
    So the “White House” has nothing better to do with its time?

    Guess not.

    ———

    The players have nothing better to do with their time than act like spoiled, entitled idiots?

    Guess not.

  15. henryjones20 says:

    White House Press secretary still holding press conferences regarding a few FOOTBALL PLAYERS kneeling during the anthem?!
    =======================================================

    No, it was a question asked in a normal daily press briefing.

  16. Donald would never allow this solution at this point. Just that idea coming out of your mouth is disrespectful to the military!

    ——————–

    We disrespect our military all the time with our false wars and not taking care of those who are injured in battle. Stop making this about the military when it is not.

  17. So now we are at a point where the government is forcing cicitzens to symbolically pledge allegiance to a flag. That is the antithesis of what our country represents. And yes I personally stand for the flag, but I’m not such an insecure snowflake that I feel like everyone else must as well.

  18. Evidently, good ole Rog is concerned, based on ratings, polls, etc. Is this the 3rd or 2nd meeting he has called to discuss these “matters”, in as many weeks?? That golden goose is looking a little brassy, especially when the NFL’s tax exempt status was brought up! The almighty dollar will have an effect, every time 🙂 The leadership is definitely lacking!! Protest on your own flippin’ time, not at your place of employment…..

  19. Puerto Rico destroyed, Florida and Texas still recovering, wildfires rampant in California, the aftermath of the Vegas shooting, North Korea still testing missiles, a legislature that can’t get a damned thing done. Sorry, I forgot that NFL players exercising their right to freedom of speech was at the top of the list, carry on.

  20. BuckyBadger says:

    We disrespect our military all the time with our false wars and not taking care of those who are injured in battle. Stop making this about the military when it is not.
    ============================================================

    Most of us who have been to war to not buy your false support.

  21. Adam Silver from the NBA showed how it’s done, too bad Goodell tried to suck up to the players & ruined the league

  22. “I think we would certainly support the NFL coming out and asking players to stand,” White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told reporters on Tuesday

    ======

    They already do ask them to stand, in the game ops manual it says “should stand” that’s kind of asking. The white house wants the NFL demanding

  23. h0metownzero says:
    October 10, 2017 at 3:26 pm
    Remove the anthem from the games.

    Problem solved. You’re welcome.

    ————

    Just curious. When CAN we play our Nationals Anthem? Not in schools, not in sporting events, apparently. When is it proper time to show respect to our flag, our country, and the men and women that have died to give us the freedoms we have today?

  24. “Most of us who have been to war to not buy your false support”.

    War experience based on playing Call Of Duty really doesn’t apply to this issue. Nice try though.

  25. This is how dictatorship starts, when the leader starts telling you how should obey and behave. If you think you got freedoms, they will be slowly taken away…this is just the start of it.

  26. When is it proper time to show respect to our flag, our country, and the men and women that have died to give us the freedoms we have today?
    —-
    You can do that whenever you like. It’s a free country. But is a sporting event the best place to do that? It most certainly doesn’t bother me. heck I like our National Anthem. 4th of July parade. Memorial weekend. May I ask if you have to have go to a football game to feel patriotic?

  27. I was worried that #45 would try to run the white house the way he runs his businesses. He’s learning more and more that people will not do something just because he tells them to. I’m sure he was able to walk into one of his hotels and demand changes but he’s learning that the United States is not one of his hotels.

  28. Do you suppose that Donald Trump has ever even read the Constitution. Or maybe even knows what it is? I wholeheartedly agree that the players should stand for the anthem. I also wholeheartedly believe in the Constitution of the United States. That Constitution also guarantees them the right to protest. So by taking the stand that he has, Donald Trump is being un-American.

  29. jimmysee says:
    October 10, 2017 at 3:24 pm

    So the “White House” has nothing better to do with its time?

    Guess not
    ————–

    Believe it or not Jimmy, sending out tweets and memos on this issue does not preclude the White House from engaging in other activities. There is this concept known as multi-tasking that perhaps you would be well advised to read up on.

  30. “Just curious. When CAN we play our National Anthem?”

    Anytime you wish. You can put it on a continuous 24 hour loop in your house, on your phone, etc. Of course, you won’t get much sleep because you’ll be standing all night. But please, feel free to play it as much as you like.

  31. jkossrt says:

    That Constitution also guarantees them the right to protest.
    ======================================================

    Not at work.

  32. suncawy says:
    October 10, 2017 at 4:19 pm

    This is how dictatorship starts, when the leader starts telling you how should obey and behave. If you think you got freedoms, they will be slowly taken away…this is just the start of it.

    ————–

    You mean like when the Commissioner of a league tells its players they can’t celebrate after scoring? Or what they can and cannot wear during game day?

  33. jkossrt says:
    October 10, 2017 at 4:27 pm

    Do you suppose that Donald Trump has ever even read the Constitution. Or maybe even knows what it is? I wholeheartedly agree that the players should stand for the anthem. I also wholeheartedly believe in the Constitution of the United States. That Constitution also guarantees them the right to protest. So by taking the stand that he has, Donald Trump is being un-American.

    ———————-

    Actually, if you read the Constitution, you would understand that there is no right to protest while on the job. The First Amendment protections only protect against improper government prohibitions on free speech. There is no right to free speech at the workplace. If you understood the issue, you’d see that is why the NFL is within its rights to prohibit celebrations after scores.

  34. Trump’s playing chess…..bahahahaha. That’s the funniest thing I’ve read in ages, thanks. His performance this first year says otherwise, but why let the truth penetrate that bubble.

  35. While the racist returned to Charlottesville and Trump once again had nothing to say. Hey if u r nazi you are good people. If you are black in the NFL you are just a SOB

    #MAWA

  36. “Not at work”.

    Just curious about your work situation. Does your employer have a rule against personal internet usage at work? Because you’re commenting here all hours of the day and night.

  37. It’s amazing how little the supporters of the players protesting know about the Constitution and the 1st Amendment.

    They have the part that the players want them to believe down pat.

    They just won’t take the time to actually read and comprehend the actual document.

    Same thing with the NFL’s Game Day Operations Manual.

    It does say “should” stand, but it also goes on to say that players can be fined and or suspended. It also says that teams can lose draft picks if their players don’t stand at attention.

    If Goodell grows a pair and suspends 23 49er players and pulls a draft pick from the team, this protest would be over.

  38. My comment is way way down the row of comments, so probably no one will read this. If you read the article AND follow the link, you’ll see that the White House did no bring up the issue. A reporter asked because the league is meeting next week. Sarah Sanders says “We’d love to see the players stand.” She does not say “There must be a rule.” Big, big difference.

  39. vusnu says:
    October 10, 2017 at 4:37 pm
    jkossrt says:
    October 10, 2017 at 4:27 pm

    Do you suppose that Donald Trump has ever even read the Constitution. Or maybe even knows what it is? I wholeheartedly agree that the players should stand for the anthem. I also wholeheartedly believe in the Constitution of the United States. That Constitution also guarantees them the right to protest. So by taking the stand that he has, Donald Trump is being un-American.

    ———————-

    Actually, if you read the Constitution, you would understand that there is no right to protest while on the job. The First Amendment protections only protect against improper government prohibitions on free speech. There is no right to free speech at the workplace. If you understood the issue, you’d see that is why the NFL is within its rights to prohibit celebrations after scores.
    ————-

    Read his comment again. Does he say anything about the NFL not being able to stop protests? He is asking if DONALD TRUMP has ever read the Constitution, not Roger Goodell. Do you understand the difference between the President of the United States and the Commissioner of the National Football League?

    YES YES YES we all get it- if the league wants to pass a rule banning anthem protests, they can. But the President- who last I heard was still a government employee, is NOT allowed to use his office to bully a private entity into silencing its employees. THAT is a violation of the 1st Amendment.

  40. Wilbon is an idiot. When you harken back to slavery vs. an issue that clearly is not, it weakens the reference. The whole point about slavery is they “didn’t” have a choice. Players have a choice. The problem is they want it both ways. They want to get paid by the boss, but not do what the boss siys.

    Now if Jerry Jones or any owner started coming down on players for speaking out outside the football field, that’s another issue.

    But let me give you an example: Say you’re flying from LA to NY and your captain gets on the mike and says, “This is your captain speaking, let me say a few words about the current political situation.” Is that appropriate? Say the airline management found out about it and told the pilot not to do it. Would that not be appropriate?

    You get paid by the boss, you have to follow the boss’s rules.

    I’m not sure why that is all of a sudden a hard thing to understand.

  41. This wild goose chase will go on, even if they make it mandatory to stand. Players will have their fists in the air, they might turn their back on the flag, close their eyes, etc. They’ll do something to continue protesting, and Trump will continue to go hard after the NFL and the players because it’s a very nice distraction from the trainwreck that is happening in Washington, D.C. right now.

  42. 1st of all, none of these athletes are disrespecting the flag or the anthem. They are kneeling to bring light to the things they see in their communities. They know they aren’t oppressed, they are trying to be the voice of those who don’t have a platform to have their voices heard. A lot of you are a bunch of idiots thinking the athletes themselves are oppressed. Police brutality runs rampant in the minority communities. You must be deaf, dumb and blind to think it doesn’t. And before any of you respond with the typical Black on Black statistic, White on White crime happens just as much. Former President Obama didn’t cause any riff in this country, it was always there. The buffoon in office is the one causing a racial divide in this country. Most of the players protesting are black, you don’t see many whites joining in on the kneeling, they have no reason to. But what 45 is doing is stirring up a lot of you closet racists. Getting you mad at the black players. In turn, a lot of racist sentiments are being expressed, yet most you will still contend racism doesn’t exist. Stay under your rock, in your bubble, in your cave.
    How are they disrespecting the flag? The anthem only started playing in the NFL around 2012. Before that, what did you do before the game? Nothing!!! Continue doing the same thing.

  43. And don’t forget, the NFL is a union job. They have been on strike before. That means they PROTESTED!!!!!!!! Used their job as a platform. Many of you were on the players on side, YOU WANTED THE OWNERS TO PAY THEM!!!! Many of you had no problem with that.

  44. This is like the ‘50s McCarthyism but bass ackwards. Republicans are becoming Democrats and Democrats are becoming Republicans. Communism is the new Fascian.

  45. Yeah, the upvote downvote thing is definitely being manipulated here, at least at times. No consistency whatsoever. Not that it’s that relevant, but interesting. Russian troll farms? Trump and Pence hitting refresh repeatedly? It’s a mystery.

  46. Liberalsruineverything says:
    October 10, 2017 at 4:30 pm
    Trump playing chess, the anti Trump media playing checkers.——————–

    you bring up an interesting point but you haven’t a clue about it. the chess game that’s being played is between China/Russia and their proxies (like N.K.) and the U.S. and our proxies (like Israel). the Chinese and Russians understand something this clown and his supporters don’t: Doturd Donnie is an extremely weak, immoral, and vacillating person. he can’t concentrate on more than one issue at a time. China and Russia are being very aggressive around the world and THEY ARE WINNING. watching Donnie react to them is like watching him play Whack-A-Mole. the problem is he’s consistently fives moles behind……………….

    longtimefanh8tr says:
    October 10, 2017 at 5:50 pm
    Instead of this fake patriotism about standing for the anthem, how about Trump mentioning the 4 special forces guys who died in Niger?

    I agree but you really can’t expect that out of him. he has never acknowledged the sailors killed in the accidents in the Pacific. if it’s isn’t about Donnie he won’t say a thing. his whole world revolves around…………………….Donnie.

  47. For all you guys worrying about the constitution, have you even read it? I’ll make it easy for you, the pertinent language (i.e., the First Amendment) is: ” Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

    How does this apply to Jerry Jones?

    I wonder how many of you guys think you could stand up at work and start protesting whatever cause to the customers or clients and have the boss be OK with it.

    And for you guys that are bosses, are you ok with your salesmen getting on the phone and bringing a little political awareness to the customer before getting down to business?

  48. daruckusbringa says:
    “And don’t forget, the NFL is a union job. They have been on strike before. That means they PROTESTED!!!!!!!! Used their job as a platform. Many of you were on the players on side, YOU WANTED THE OWNERS TO PAY THEM!!!! Many of you had no problem with that.”

    The players going on strike is a legally protected workplace right, not a protest. What they are doing now isn’t legally protected. See my post above if you need more clarification on that piece.

  49. smithdp says:
    October 10, 2017 at 3:28 pm
    By White House, do you mean our draft dodger in chief who skipped out on Viet Nam five times but who mocked John McCain, who did serve, for getting “captured”?
    ============================================================
    John Kerry was awarded 3 Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star and a Silver Star while serving in Vietnam.
    When he ran for President he was smeared as a anti-American traitor while Bush was portrayed as some kind of hero for going AWOL from the Indiana National Guard where he served his duty.
    People will believe what they want no matter how crazy it is or how much evidence says otherwise.
    Look around you.

  50. “White House Press secretary still holding press conferences regarding a few FOOTBALL PLAYERS kneeling during the anthem?! SAD but i gotta admit that i laugh along with every other person (besides the lower middle class republican). Get a life!! but hey,I guess this would be 45’s only thing he has ever accomplished while playing golf since he became President.”

    ———

    How misinformed you are. The White House had no press conferences about the anthem issue. Reporters keep asking the press secretary questions about it during the Q and A and she answers them. Simple as that.

  51. This is a very simple issue. The NFL wants to have a rule akin to what the NBA already has.

    You will find no one, including Wilbon, saying that NBA owners or the NBA as a league has a slave master mentality. Those who favor the protests, in general, don’t want to talk about the NBA rule.

    I would imagine that the NFL is well aware of the NBA rule and I’m sure they will feel on solid ground to implement a similar rule, themselves, come next week.

    There seems to be some manipulation going on both with the up/down arrows at the moment, as well as in the posting of comments in this thread. As someone said above, Russia troll farms at work again?

    Anyways, it will be good to have this issue behind us in the near future. The NFL cannot have the continued ratings and reputational disaster which is presently occurring moving forward, and I’m sure that they will thus implement an NBA rule in short order.

  52. For the first time ever, I willingly didn’t watch MNF. I DVR’d it and now I’m going to google to see what kind of nonsense if any the players engaged in before I watch their product and absorb their ads.

    ——

    Boy you sound like the life of the party!

  53. donbat67 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 6:25 pm
    Every Trump supporter ” I’m not a Racist but…..”

    I find the irony astounding.

    In a thread and an issue that largely has prejudice as its genesis someone would say *every* Trump supporter is anything.

  54. ordluvasuperduck says:
    October 10, 2017 at 5:59 pm
    Where was all the indignation when Trump mocked Sen. John McCain’s service.

    ——–

    Ummmmmm……….everywhere? Pretty sure it dominated the news
    cycle. Well, everywhere but FOXNews that is

  55. As a show of solidarity the ENTIRE Cowboys team should take a knee and show jerry jones that without a team there is no game. Instead of threats why not sit at a table and discuss the issues that brought this situation to the forefront and try to find solutions.

  56. I’m puzzled at this site. I’ll click on one article and it’s full of pro trump crowd and another article I click on Its against trump. I’m referring to the comment section I can’t figure it out.

  57. kane337 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 3:41 pm
    So who’s taking a knee for all the cops that have been shot and killed
    _______________
    They dedicate an entire week towards police called National Police Week, with events such as Washington Area Law Enforcement Memorial Service and Blue Mass, however we can’t dedicate enough time to solve the problem of police brutality, opposition, and inequality.

  58. bengalsfan2079 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 6:53 pm

    I’m puzzled at this site. I’ll click on one article and it’s full of pro trump crowd and another article I click on Its against trump. I’m referring to the comment section I can’t figure it out.
    ————————————–

    Just look at the posters names. I read this site twice a day so am familiar with the posters pseudonyms. There are about 2/3 of the “names” on here I have never seen.

    The other thing I have noticed is that the Trump supporters show up before working hours, at noon, and after working hours end. During the day is when most of the anti-Trump folks post here.

  59. White House encourages NFL to change rule regarding anthem
    _____________________________________________

    I think you mean a vindictive donald trump wants to get even with NFL owners. trump destroyed the USFL and he was rebuffed by the NFL not once but twice. And like the spoiled child he is, he wants revenge. Plus this serves as a diversion from his daily mistakes and mounting failures.

  60. I doubt this makes it through moderation, but it is simply amazing how many people commenting and voting on PFT don’t understand the Constitutional right to free speech has absolutely nothing to do with what your boss says you can or can’t do while on the clock.

    The NFL should absolutely require the players to stand, just like the NBA does, and quit allowing the players to hijack the NFL sidelines for a protest that has nothing to do with football. The players are free to do that on their own time.

  61. Once more Trump is telling white owners to control their black players.
    And still, not one word about white supremacists marching again in Charlottesville.
    It’s not rocket science to see what this is about.

  62. nbptma1 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 3:22 pm

    Trump the genius wins again!
    ____________________

    Wins again? Wins what? Successfully turning your attention away from all things important? All the things he’s failed at do far?

  63. This has become such a fine distraction from the original silent protest about police brutality and racial inequality. Typical move to make it about something it is not. The NFL players have effectively been Swift-boated…

  64. The players have somehow forgot who their customers are. They shouldn’t be using the NFL stage for their personal political whims, especially when it effects everyone’s salaries as a whole.

  65. jimmysee says:
    October 10, 2017 at 3:24 pm
    So the “White House” has nothing better to do with its time?

    Guess not.

    ———

    The players have nothing better to do with their time than act like spoiled, entitled idiots?

    Guess not.
    _______________________________

    What an idiotic non-equivocation.

    Guess so.

  66. It’s really depressing that a large number of people on this site: 1. believe they can define someone else’s peaceful protest. 2. Have no idea what the First Amendment is about. 3. Believes every single lie that comes out of Trump’s mouth (multiple everyday). And 4. will be completely shocked when he is indicted for treason.The Lizard is coming Trump fans and you will have to admit you support a traitor. Lets hope that gets handled before trump’s reckless behavior gets us into World War III.

  67. I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color. To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder.
    — Colin Kaepernick, former San Francisco 49ers quarterback, Aug. 26, 2016
    ————————————–
    It’s about the flag.

  68. vusnu says:
    October 10, 2017 at 4:34 pm

    jimmysee says:
    October 10, 2017 at 3:24 pm

    So the “White House” has nothing better to do with its time?

    Guess not
    ————–

    Believe it or not Jimmy, sending out tweets and memos on this issue does not preclude the White House from engaging in other activities. There is this concept known as multi-tasking that perhaps you would be well advised to read up on.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Hey Genius Vusnu — so what, exactly has he accomplished? His multitasking skill consists of tweeting while sitting on the porcelain throne in the middle of the night.

  69. daruckusbringa says:
    October 10, 2017 at 5:48 pm
    “1st of all, none of these athletes are disrespecting the flag or the anthem. ”

    See, this is where there is a huge disconnect.

    Let me take them at their word, and, frankly I do.

    It doesn’t matter. If I use the flag to clean up an oil spill – I wasn’t disrespecting the flag, I just didn’t have a rag handy. Really?

    But let’s prove it another way:

    Why are they kneeling in the first place? Because they knew it would start a conversation.

    Why would it start a conversation? Because it’s not an accepted form of behavior, i.e., it’s disrespectful.

  70. The NFL should have stopped the kneeling when it first started, which they had every right to do in the first place. When an entire sport starts making divisive political statements, also they divide their customer base and lose customers because of it.

    The NFL can do nothing but lose customers by allowing political protests during their games. They should have stopped it last year, but they didn’t. Now they’re paying the price for it and will likely be discouraging it, if not outlawing it in the future.

  71. csszrr says:
    October 10, 2017 at 8:18 pm
    “No American should have the freedom to protest our symbols of freedom. See how stupid that sounds?”

    What would your boss say if you laid down a little political awareness to your customers before getting down to business?

  72. Michael E says:

    October 10, 2017 at 4:03 pm

    BuckyBadger says:

    We disrespect our military all the time with our false wars and not taking care of those who are injured in battle. Stop making this about the military when it is not.
    ============================================================

    Most of us who have been to war to not buy your false support.
    ____________________________________________

    I’ve been to war unlike our draft dodging texter-in-chief whose Vietnam was avoiding VD in the nightclubs. He’s turned an example of free speech protest into something it isn’t. He’ll say and do anything to divert the public’s attention from his daily failures. I can’t believe anybody’s buying what he’s peddling.

  73. NFL and MSM hubris led to this and it is long overdue. Remove preferential tax status for the NFL.

    I miss Florio crowing about the undisputed #1 sport of America. LOL. Golden Goose is on fire.

  74. kjack59 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 8:16 pm
    “It’s really depressing that a large number of people on this site: … 2. Have no idea what the First Amendment is about. ”

    I agree … maybe you should read it.

  75. As a 34 yo American i can’t think of any place other then sports that even sings the anthem. We don’t sing the anthem at the air port, post office, or dmv. We aren’t even taught the words to the anthem in school. How many even know the words to all 4 stanzas?!

  76. gtodriver says:

    October 10, 2017 at 5:05 pm

    It’s amazing how little the supporters of the players protesting know about the Constitution and the 1st Amendment.

    They have the part that the players want them to believe down pat.

    They just won’t take the time to actually read and comprehend the actual document.

    Same thing with the NFL’s Game Day Operations Manual.

    It does say “should” stand, but it also goes on to say that players can be fined and or suspended. It also says that teams can lose draft picks if their players don’t stand at attention.

    If Goodell grows a pair and suspends 23 49er players and pulls a draft pick from the team, this protest would be over.
    ___________________________________________

    And so the chaos continues. Exactly why the Russians helped trump win.

  77. dsigrey says:
    October 10, 2017 at 3:30 pm
    h0metownzero says:
    October 10, 2017 at 3:26 pm
    Remove the anthem from the games.

    Problem solved. You’re welcome.
    ___________________________

    BOOM!The words of a genius

    —————
    Replace it with Niel Young’s Rockin In The Free World.

  78. “Under what conditions does a symbol of our people gain more importance than our people? By what stretch of the imagination, does the flag for a nation, founded in protest of mistreatment, suffer any loss by the people it represents protesting mistreatment? At what point does a worship of inanimate objects not oppose the Constitution itself, in denying the most basic premise, that all power and purpose of this nation derives from, and for, we, the people? I cannot, as a veteran sworn to protect the Constitution, place a flag or anthem above the status of our own citizens’ rights.
    I cannot.
    I will not.”
    – US Navy Veteran Dan A.

  79. daruckusbringa says:
    October 10, 2017 at 5:48 pm

    1st of all, none of these athletes are disrespecting the flag or the anthem. They are kneeling to bring light to the things they see in their communities. They know they aren’t oppressed, they are trying to be the voice of those who don’t have a platform to have their voices heard. A lot of you are a bunch of idiots thinking the athletes themselves are oppressed. Police brutality runs rampant in the minority communities. You must be deaf, dumb and blind to think it doesn’t. And before any of you respond with the typical Black on Black statistic, White on White crime happens just as much. Former President Obama didn’t cause any riff in this country, it was always there. The buffoon in office is the one causing a racial divide in this country. Most of the players protesting are black, you don’t see many whites joining in on the kneeling, they have no reason to. But what 45 is doing is stirring up a lot of you closet racists. Getting you mad at the black players. In turn, a lot of racist sentiments are being expressed, yet most you will still contend racism doesn’t exist. Stay under your rock, in your bubble, in your cave.
    How are they disrespecting the flag? The anthem only started playing in the NFL around 2012. Before that, what did you do before the game? Nothing!!! Continue doing the same thing.
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    Can I get an AMEN!

  80. vusnu says:
    October 10, 2017 at 4:34 pm

    jimmysee says:
    October 10, 2017 at 3:24 pm

    So the “White House” has nothing better to do with its time?

    Guess not
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    Believe it or not Jimmy, sending out tweets and memos on this issue does not preclude the White House from engaging in other activities. There is this concept known as multi-tasking that perhaps you would be well advised to read up on.

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    Hey Genius Vusnu — so what, exactly has he accomplished? His multitasking skill consists of tweeting while sitting on the porcelain throne in the middle of the night.
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    But not when he’s in New York. In New York he sits on a golden throne.

  81. FoozieGrooler says:
    October 10, 2017 at 8:55 pm
    “ I cannot, as a veteran sworn to protect the Constitution, place a flag or anthem above the status of our own citizens’ rights.
    I cannot.
    I will not.”
    – US Navy Veteran Dan A.

    As a navy veteran as well, thank you for your service.

    These players’ rights are not being threatened. They are or will soon be asked by their bosses to adhere to a simple easy to follow standard of conduct.

    I’m pretty certain that no one would think standing still for two minutes is an onerous work policy for a world class athlete.

    No one of whom I’m aware is asking these players not to do anything outside the bulding; once they leave the building on Sunday, they’ll find all of their free speech rights fully intact.

  82. reif99 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 8:33 pm
    kjack59 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 8:16 pm
    “It’s really depressing that a large number of people on this site: … 2. Have no idea what the First Amendment is about. ”

    I agree … maybe you should read it.

    rief99
    I know exactly what it says. Trump hasn’t been to rewrite it yet. Maybe you should try to understand what it means.

  83. longtimefanh8tr says:
    October 10, 2017 at 5:50 pm
    Instead of this fake patriotism about standing for the anthem, how about Trump mentioning the 4 special forces guys who died in Niger?

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    Perfect.

  84. reif99 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 6:16 pm

    daruckusbringa says:
    “And don’t forget, the NFL is a union job. They have been on strike before. That means they PROTESTED!!!!!!!! Used their job as a platform. Many of you were on the players on side, YOU WANTED THE OWNERS TO PAY THEM!!!! Many of you had no problem with that.”

    The players going on strike is a legally protected workplace right, not a protest. What they are doing now isn’t legally protected. See my post above if you need more clarification on that piece.

    Yes, Reif99, I need more clarification as I just read this
    “This could spark a legal battle with the union over whether that change can be made without submitting the issue to the tit-for-tat of collective bargaining. From the league’s perspective, so what? Like other instances of going too far and then forcing the NFLPA to push back via the court system, the league would be able to tell the President and anyone else who has a problem with kneeling for the anthem that the league has done everything it can to force the players to stand. If, ultimately, a court blocks the NFL from forcing players to stand, the outcome came be blamed on “activist, unelected judges” who don’t properly respect nation, flag, and country.”

  85. h0metownzero says:

    October 10, 2017 at 3:26 pm

    Remove the anthem from the games.

    Problem solved. You’re welcome
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    Agreed, but the NFL hasn’t broadcast the Anthem for decades. They go to commercial during that segment.

    So does the MLB.

  86. < The White House wants the NFL to change the Constitution?

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    I think the WH wants everyone to watch what's in their right hand so long as no one notices what's in their other hand

  87. Do you suppose that Donald Trump has ever even read the Constitution. Or maybe even knows what it is? I wholeheartedly agree that the players should stand for the anthem. I also wholeheartedly believe in the Constitution of the United States. That Constitution also guarantees them the right to protest. So by taking the stand that he has, Donald Trump is being un-American.
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    Did I miss something is anybody being imprisoned or killed because they knelt during the National Anthem?! Just because the players have a right to protest doesn’t mean that they are free from consequences of their actions. I have freedom of speech which means I can go to work and bad mouth my boss. I exercised my right to free speech and I will not go to jail or be killed for doing so. My boss has free speech and he can use his free speech to tell me that I am fired and I would expect him to do so. My rights were not violated because I suffered negative consequences as a result of my free speech. It really is a simple concept that everyone seems to get wrong.

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