Browns bench DeShone Kizer, Kevin Hogan to start on Sunday

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The Browns have made a change at quarterback.

Cleveland coach Hue Jackson has decided to bench rookie DeShone Kizer and start Kevin Hogan on Sunday against the Texans.

“I’ve made the decision to start Kevin this week,” Jackson said. “We’ve liked what Kevin has been able to do within our offense when he’s been in there and he will ‪start on Sunday because that’s what we feel is best for our team at this point in time. This does not change the way we feel about DeShone going forward. He has worked extremely hard and still very much has a bright future. Right now, it’s better for him and his development to back up Kevin.”

Hogan came off the bench in relief of Kizer on Sunday and has seen action in a total of seven games over his two years in Cleveland, but this will be his first start. So far in his career Hogan has a 62.5 percent completion rate, three touchdowns, four interceptions and a passer rating of 75.1. Hogan is a good runner who also has 13 carries for 140 yards.

60 responses to “Browns bench DeShone Kizer, Kevin Hogan to start on Sunday

  1. meaning Kizer is not the QB of the future and the Browns are back to square one. The GM who passed on Wentz and Watson should be fired immediately.

  2. Totally agree that backing up Hogan is better for Kizer’s development, but that decision should’ve been made and stuck with from the beginning of the season. Playing QB Musical Chairs is never good for any quarterbacks psyche.

  3. I promise if Hogan wasn’t the better QB in training camp he still isn’t. If they were going to have a short leash on a first year rookie they never should have started him to begin with.

  4. Well, even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in awhile. Eventually the Browns will find a QB. Sadly, I don’t think it happens this year.

  5. Maybe at some point people will realize that no quarterback can succeed on that dumpster fire of a team ..not Tom Brady, not Joe Montana, not Peyton Manning ..nobody. The organization and the roster need a complete teardown and rebuild.

  6. I’m all for developing franchise QBs for a year or so before you start them (if you can), and I know Kizer had a poor game, but that fumbled pitch to the RB on the Jets’ 7yd line was as much the RB’s fault and Kizer didn’t kick the two missed FGs. Browns overall put up over 200 more yards than the Jets and had nearly 10 mins more posession than the Jets, but just worked harder at losing than the Jets did.

  7. ijahru says:
    October 11, 2017 at 8:49 am
    meaning Kizer is not the QB of the future and the Browns are back to square one. The GM who passed on Wentz and Watson should be fired immediately.

    Not true. It means his development – on this team not the playoff contending Eagles and Texans – isn’t going as well as it should. No one is back to square one. This team isn’t very good, and it isn’t even mostly on the QB. Sometimes smart people take a step back, re-evaluate, and plot new courses. That’s good leadership – although in this case I think there’s a little bit of panic as well. But smart people do that. It doesn’t mean that this experiment is a failure.

    The other side of that equation is ignorance and stubbornness. Any coach that gives me zero of those two I want around. I personally think they were too hasty in promoting the guy to starter in the first place.

  8. Of course they benched DESHONE for this game so the rest of world won’t sit back and laugh at how terrible he is compared to DESHAUN. Even worse CLE gift wrapped the #12 pick to HOU and Wentz to PHI, so much for Hue the “QB whisper”….

    Apr 30, 2016: Hue Jackson on draft pick Cody Kessler,”The guy has had a tremendous career. I understand where everybody is coming from, but you’ve got to trust me on this one. This is a guy that we feel very comfortable with, and we think he’s going to have an opportunity to ascend”.

    Ok Hue we trust you now that he is the 3rd string quarterback and no longer the latest bust at QB for you. Speaking of terrible CLE QB’s when will we see the return of “The Failed Browns QB’s Jersey” in the shop window?

  9. thelastwordyaheard says:
    October 11, 2017 at 8:59 am
    Maybe at some point people will realize that no quarterback can succeed on that dumpster fire of a team ..not Tom Brady, not Joe Montana, not Peyton Manning ..nobody. The organization and the roster need a complete teardown and rebuild.

    If you understood football you’d understand they are in the middle of that teardown and rebuild right now, and only in the second year of it. Youngest roster in football, brand new coaches and FOs. When you truly do a complete teardown and rebuild, it takes a long time to see results. This instant gratification mindset is what got them into trouble over the last 18 years.

  10. Cleveland failed to understand their situation clearly from the start. You can talk rebuild and get away with losing some games. But no matter what you are trying to accomplish you cannot get away with consistent losing. As I stated at the end of last year, the Cleveland Browns number one job this year was to win some games. Being familiar with the system is extremely key. But what did they do the started over again with yet a new QB in their system. WRONG MOVE if you must win now. Far better to continue with familiar people as they are able to relax a little and expand on the playbook sooner.

    They should have kept RG3 at least this year (and passed on that Osweiller move to gain yet another pick (code for cheap labor). RG3 if I remember correctly got the single win as QB for Cleveland last year. Knows the system, and has a high level of skill that just needs a decent offensive line and two or three years in the same system. Had they stuck with RG3 they would have won a game or two already this year. They still could have drafted Kiser or waited until this year to get their choice of supposedly high level QB’s. We all know Cleveland was not competing for a division record this year and that is why they could have waited. I mean when the team is ready-the QB will appear. I mean, Desean Watson and Dak Prescott are both evidence of how quickly your QB can perform when they have a solid defense and offensive line AND some ESTABLISHED playmakers!

    Now, the facts are RG3 when he was at Baylor was a ‘playmaker”. He helped that team get on the map. He made that team better. When he came to Washington, he took a 5-11 team to 10-6. and again won rookie of the year and made the pro bowl on the way to winning 7 straight games to win the division as a rookie. I don’t want to hear about can’t run read option, yada yada yada, almost all teams run some read option every week!!! And RG3 is one of the best. None of the QB’s the Browns passed on did what RG3 did. How soon we forget. A QB does not forget how to pass, etc. Rg3 in Washington was highly successful because they wisely ran a lot of the system that HE ALREADY WAS FAMILIAR WITH!!!! That allows a QB to play more instinctively-which is key in the NFL.

    Say what you want about injury, but Matt Stafford had a few injuries to start his career and he has gone a while without missing games now. So, if the game plan was to win this year while they continue their transition, they should have kept RG3. Kessler or Hogan should have been the second guy, and Kiser should have been on the bench learning, and if they saw promise in Hogan, they could have kept him as well. No problem having 4 QB’s for a year or two if you are Cleveland trying to find your guy.

    Cleveland still has THEIR team which is still growing and learning their system. They can’t keep snatching in new people in that group without experiencing even more growing pains instead of growing gains.

  11. I have to say that i truly feel sorry for Browns fans. What they have had to endure with this inept organisation is truly astounding. As an Eagles fan i can relate when Chip Kelly was destroying the franchise trading away players and running that stupid offense it was so frustrating to watch the same garbage week after week. I also have to say I am grateful they traded us the Draft pick that resulted in Carson Wentz. I hope the owner does right by the fans and gets rid of these inept people and hires a real GM that gets back to NFL talent evaluations. Hang in there Browns fans!!

  12. Kiser is just another in a long line of Browns QB’s thrust into starting before being ready to play. One nice about the season is we don’t here much about them. That stops once the season is over and they become great again.

  13. as a Browns fan he has look the best from the preseason till today. like they say about him the kid finds ways to win games.he has move the team every time given his chance. he gets the ball to the TEs and RBs more than the others do. hope Hue has a plan to show off his skills.

  14. Deshone, when confronted with the Cleveland Curse, curl up in a fetal position and protect your vitals

  15. As soon as defenses have some film on Hogan, he’ll look as good (bad) as Kizer. Not saying its the wrong move, but the main problem with this team isn’t just a too-green quarterback. Its coaching.

  16. Why is noone calling out SASHI and his “moneyball analytics”?

    He hired a BASEBALL guy DePodesta and they were so smug in thinking they were the smartest guys in the room. I remember an article where DePodesta said other NFL coaches/execs were laughing about his hiring when they were near him and did not know who he was.

    What did that mean Podesta? That they were SO misguided?

    Bottom line is both you and “Sashi” have FAILED. Haslam is also a complete moron for giving you guys the keys to the engine as well.

  17. This regime was hired with a five year plan. It’s only been a little more than one year. Kizer is the QB of the future, and they decided to let him get some field experience. Now he’ll use that experience to sit back and watch Hogan. What he sees Hogan doing will make a lot more sense now that he has field experience. I completely trust Hue Jackson on this. My question, and it’s a big one, but it won’t be answered for 2-3 more years is whether or not Kizer is an NFL QB. Will Hue and Sashi last that long? The odds are against it.

  18. It’s now Hogans job to lose. Got no respect during preseason till he “played his way” onto the roster in the 4th preseason game. He wasn’t drafted by the Harvard boys so his climb has been steep. Hogan is clearly the best QB in that room.

  19. The Browns just burned another potential starting QB. I really can’t believe it.

    They had Osweiler. All they had to do was let the guy start for a year and develop Kizer. Then if Kizer was not a good fit, let him flash a bit in the preseason and trade him and draft another QB while he still has untapped potential. Now no team will start him.

    Throwing a rookie into a starting role when he isn’t ready destroys his career and destroys his value.

  20. You do realize that QBS are developed by playing the game. They are starting hogan, because they passed on Watson, when Watson smokes them and Kizer playing like poo, then heads will role. it will look better to lose with Hogan in the game.

    reddzen says:
    October 11, 2017 at 9:18 am
    ijahru says:
    October 11, 2017 at 8:49 am
    meaning Kizer is not the QB of the future and the Browns are back to square one. The GM who passed on Wentz and Watson should be fired immediately.

    Not true. It means his development – on this team not the playoff contending Eagles and Texans – isn’t going as well as it should. No one is back to square one. This team isn’t very good, and it isn’t even mostly on the QB. Sometimes smart people take a step back, re-evaluate, and plot new courses. That’s good leadership – although in this case I think there’s a little bit of panic as well. But smart people do that. It doesn’t mean that this experiment is a failure.

    The other side of that equation is ignorance and stubbornness. Any coach that gives me zero of those two I want around. I personally think they were too hasty in promoting the guy to starter in the first place.

  21. Bad decision by Hue Jackson. Hogan should have been the starter at the beginning of the season while Kizer sat and learned. This kid was not ready to be an NFL QB, especially on a bad team with a limited supporting cast. By benching him, now you’re screwing with his confidence.

  22. Thr Browns have “discovered” their future QB in Hogan with no thanks to hue jackson. Hogan is THE guy who will take the Browns to future success down the winding road!

  23. The Browns as a team are headed in the right direction, and do have some good players. The biggest problem with the team through the first five weeks has all been the QB position. No team can win in the NFL with a QB that only completes 50% of his passes, and has multiple turnovers every game. Hue had to make the move or he could have lost the team. The players know who is playing the best, and if Hue stuck with Kizer, why should the rest of the team care?

  24. This regime was hired with a five year plan. It’s only been a little more than one year. Kizer is the QB of the future, and they decided to let him get some field experience. Now he’ll use that experience to sit back and watch Hogan. What he sees Hogan doing will make a lot more sense now that he has field experience. I completely trust Hue Jackson on this. My question, and it’s a big one, but it won’t be answered for 2-3 more years is whether or not Kizer is an NFL QB. Will Hue and Sashi last that long? The odds are against it.

    ————-

    When was the last time you saw a rookie come in and play badly
    (49.5 passer rating 3 TDs and 9 picks), then after being benched for a while, develop into a viable NFL starting QB.

    It’s pretty rare. Steve Young is probably the best example, but he went to a different team.

  25. It looks like, with Kizer, the Browns essentially drafted Geno Smith 2.0 You would think that somebody would be held accountable for passing on Wentz and Watson? Then again, if either of them had ended up with the Browns, it’s highly debatable whether they would be off to such promising starts to their careers?

  26. Dear Jimmy,
    Please give your good buddy Mr. Peyton Manning a call and see if he’d take the reigns of G.M. of this sinking ship before all is lost and you desert all remaining Browns fans. At least by doing this, you’ll be hiring SOMEONE with some substantial football knowledge, and who knows, could bring some real change to the franchise.

    Signed,
    Browns fans everywhere!

  27. jagsfan1 says:
    October 11, 2017 at 9:53 am
    Why is noone calling out SASHI and his “moneyball analytics”?

    He hired a BASEBALL guy DePodesta and they were so smug in thinking they were the smartest guys in the room. I remember an article where DePodesta said other NFL coaches/execs were laughing about his hiring when they were near him and did not know who he was.

    What did that mean Podesta? That they were SO misguided?

    Bottom line is both you and “Sashi” have FAILED. Haslam is also a complete moron for giving you guys the keys to the engine as well.
    ————————————————————————
    Because business is business and analytics are already widely used throughout the NFL. Sashi’s approach is a long term investment. The idea parallels that of purchasing a cheap stock in an unproven, but theoretically profit-generating business (or player in terms of the NFL). If you sell too early, you might as well not have invested in the first place. Allow the business time to develop to see your investments true potential. These cheap, young players have data that back up their potential to become successful as pros but we all know that you must allow time for experience and development to occur. Again, it can be baseball, football, basketball, chess, or thumb-wrestling; It’s all in the data and the data suggests these players have the greatest potential to win given time and proper development.

  28. reddzen says:
    October 11, 2017 at 9:20 am

    If you understood football you’d understand they are in the middle of that teardown and rebuild right now, and only in the second year of it. Youngest roster in football, brand new coaches and FOs. When you truly do a complete teardown and rebuild, it takes a long time to see results. This instant gratification mindset is what got them into trouble over the last 18 years.

    ————-

    Right ..as if anyone in the Browns organization understands football..

  29. Hue keeps screwing up. Fist, they bring in Osweiler and his massive compensation package, most of which they must still carry. Then he dumps Osweiler who would give them some wins. He’s told by Kizer’s college coach he was in no way ready for starting in the NFL. Hue starts him anyway, which probably hurts Kizer’ development. Net, net: No wins, loss of a capable QB, not great, but capable, carrying a massive Osweiler salary and now starting a third stringer. How the great fans in Cleveland are dealing with this I don’t know. Sad.

  30. endtimesparty says:
    October 11, 2017 at 11:44 am
    Other teams are good every year or every fee years. Why is this organization NEVER good and why do they need a 5-year plan?
    *******************************************
    A good personnel guy only needs 3 years to turn the worst team into the best team, but it’s obvious these guys sold the owner on the five year plan. Otherwise, they would have drafted a QB last year. I’m not sure the Browns even have a personnel guy with a background in football. They have a numbers guy and a baseball guy. Don’t be shocked if this doesn’t work.

  31. Hogan has looked much better with the exact same team. Kizer is terrible. He has no awareness of the pass rush and absolutely no touch on his passes. He’s a future back up, and that’s all.

  32. Too bad for Kizer. I was never impressed by what he showed in college (14 wins – 11 losses; including losses to Duke and Navy)and didn’t think he’d show any better as a pro, but I was still rooting for him. Yeah, he’s young and he may still develop into a decent pro QB, but what have we seen at either the college or pro level that makes you think that will happen? He shoulda stayed in school. At least he would have had a chance to further develop his skills and probably would have been a 1st round pick. (Maybe even a high 1st rounder.) He’ll still make some nice coin from his (2nd round) rookie contract but not the kind of money a 1st round pick would make. Hope he’s invested that signing bonus wisely as it’s likely to be the biggest money he’ll see from his time in the NFL.

  33. An analysis of the Browns QB’s

    Kizer has the arm to make every throw, but lacks the head… ..

    Kessler has the head to make every throw but lacks the arm ….

    Hogan is a mix of both Kessler and Kizer …… enough arm to make the throws and able to make quick reads and throwing decisions

  34. #factoryofsaddness For all those loyal Browns fans, I am truly sorry. It is rare for a franchise to be so inept for so long.

  35. It was odd they started Kizer to begin with. Hogan and Kessler had shown some promise last year and Kizer was very raw to begin with. Did he really show enough in thr postseason to think he should start on a team like this over 2 guys who were there last year? I thought Kessler would open up as starter (he played good for what the browns gave him last season). However it seems like Hue has fallen out of favor with him. Kizer shouldve started the season on the bench. It looks like a huge mess now because they rushed him and benched him when he shouldnt have been out there to start. Kessler or Hogan shouldve.

  36. I wouldn’t even activate Kizer for the game. Send a bigger message. Have Kessler as number 2. All of these QBs are new. Kessler and Hogan are 2nd year players. Kizer looks lost out there. All three will make mistakes, but the offense seems to move better with Hogan and Kessler had a decent year last year. Who cares what round the QB comes from? All I know is that Kizer should have stayed at ND – Kelly was right.

  37. Kizer isn’t ready? Shocker! How could we have known? Remember before the draft when Notre Dame HC Brian Kelly said Kizer is not ready for the speed of the NFL, needs another year in college, and was called a “hater” by all the media clowns? Looks like he was right. Kizer can’t handle the speed of the NFL game. He can’t read defenses and forces throws. Shortly after that quote, Clemson HC Dabo Swinney said “If you pass on Deshaun Watson, it’s like passing on Michael Jordan”. Watson is a star and looks like the future of the Texans at QB. Maybe teams should stop listening to scouts and actually listen to the people who know these young QBs… like their college coaches that have spent countless hours coaching them and watching them perform.

  38. They had Hogan and Kessler.. Why draft Kizer in the first place????

    And they could have drafted Wentz and/or Watson.. OUCH!!!!!!!

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