Donald Trump keeps the pressure on the NFL over anthem

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NFL commissioner Roger Goodell is really trying to move past the national anthem controversy.

But President Donald Trump keeps trying to paint him into a corner, in an effort to prove that he’s the most patriotic.

Trump’s at it on the Twitter machine again this morning, with more bluster about the only reality show that threatens to get bigger ratings than his own.

The league hasn’t done anything resembling demanding that players stand. If anything, they’re tiptoeing up to the line of pretty-please-asking-if-they-would-so-we-could-all-get-along in exchange for some vague promise of a platform to express their social concerns.

And while decisions by Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and Dolphins owner Stephen Ross to help quell dissent will likely lead some owners to follow suit, there’s no guarantee that players are going to go along with it.

At a time when the NFL seems to be looking for a graceful way to extricate themselves from the debate over the red, white, and blue in order to protect their green, the President is using his platform of preference to try to push them into compliance.

81 responses to “Donald Trump keeps the pressure on the NFL over anthem

  1. I hope that if they try to do it that Aaron Rodgers, Dak Prescott, Travis Frederick, DeShaun Watson, Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Mike Tomlin, Drew Brews, Derek Carr, Marshawn Lynch, Carson Wentz, AN Green, Julio Jones, and whoever the top 10 in Jersey sales all kneel, before the legal fights start.

  2. It’s not about who is the most patriotic, it’s about who is the most disrespectful to the flag that represents the sacrifice that created the safety, freedom and opportunity for athletes to make millions of dollars.

  3. Trump continues to get shut out in Washington. He’s failing at everything he’s trying to get through. While he’s good at distracting attention away from his failures, he’s also throwing a bone to large portion of his hate-based followers. He may not be helping anyone, but he’s feeding into their hatred. He’s got one hand on their wallets while he’s distracting their attention. He’ll be a one term president. This stuff doesn’t pay the bills.

  4. Trump just keeps on winning, doesn’t he. The NFL should have NEVER made this about him; just one more in a long line of incompetent decisions by the league office.

  5. I don’t really care how anyone wants to protest but I never have understood protesting against the flag in any way. To me the flag represents the people, us, not the government and certainly not the police so I really don’t get their protest.

  6. I say kick it up a notch. All the players in the NFL should strike one Sunday. Lose a game check and show that they are sincere about affecting social change. Maybe the NFL teams would do the right thing and donate those game checks to worthy causes.

  7. The players don’t have much choice but to go along with it – if they want to play in the NFL.

    I don’t like some of the policies that my employer has, but I have to accept them if I want to work for them.

    What makes the players think they’re special?

  8. Difference between Trump and the NFL players/Goodell? When Trump gets a stage and people paying attention he DELIVERS the message.

    For over a year the players had the attention of the media by kneeling and saying they are trying to start a conversation about racial injustice. Well, you got the attention but couldn’t come up with a clear and concise message about what was bothering you. For over a year you kept kneeling and saying “it’s not about the anthem” but never once took that attention you were getting and began any substantive discussions. Trump is doing just that. he got the attention on him and knows how to drive his point home.

  9. Every player should kneel. Trump has bigger things to worry about. I’m a veteran and I don’t feel disrespected at all. People have a right to be heard. Fan are upset because they don’t have the power of these athletes and they are angry that they stand for something most fans care nothing about because it doesn’t affect them.

  10. Trump has so much respect for this great country, he dodged the draft three times claiming bone spurs…yet still managed to play college sports.

  11. I think that Trump still can’t get over his grudge against the NFL over the fact that he was never successful in acquiring a franchise. If he had become an owner then I suspect that he’d be a lot like Jim Irsay or Jerry Jones.

  12. Middle Class Working Americans pays the bills. If the NFL, NFLPA and their Sponsors have a brain in their heads they’ll respect our country and those who put their lives on the line, daily, to protect & serve all Americans.

  13. I am in total agreement with President Trump!! The NFL could have nipped this in the bud, last season, but Goodell would cut his nose off to spite his face, just to be PC, just like the former administration! Now, it is out of control because said “commish” was not in tune to the fans, and just concerned about $$$$$!! Boy, when the tax exempt status was mentioned, he went into overdrive! Jerry Jones is more in tune with the fans than Goodell, and frankly that is kind of sad! For those who say President Trump should be working on this or that….he is! He sleeps 4 hours/night and has for his adult life, for those who did not know this tidbit; therefore, he does have plenty of time to focus on other things! Most of even the millennials, could not keep the schedule he has every day! I do not have enough room to list all of his accomplishments, but when the GOP majority leader has a 17% approval rating and can’t get crap passed through Congress, that is not the President’s fault! I hope this gets posted………It may be educational!

  14. Tweets is just pouring gas on the fire. Remember a time when Presidents actually talked to Americans and didn’t dictate how to be an American?

  15. patriotism is the refuge of scoundrels.

    Amendment I. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

    Anyone who disagrees can take a hike.

    You’re ignorant and the constitution is readily available online for free. If you’re so concerned about your 2nd Amendment, respect the first. And Trump can take a hike.

  16. I’ve never seen a camera guy stand for the flag ceremony. In fact, they’re not honoring the flag if they’re shooting video of players kneeling. Why are cameramen so disloyal?

    Or even worse, I’ve never seen anyone at home standing and saluting the flag during the playing of the national anthem. Why are those who refuse to stand in their homes when the anthem plays so disloyal?

    And what about the booth people? I never see them stand. Why are they so disloyal?

  17. Once again for those too slow to comprehend: you don’t get to make up stuff to disparage a group of people…ever. The people protesting have been very clear about their reasoning and only someone deliberately being obtuse or willfully ignorant can say otherwise. Trump is using this to deflect from real issues he is ignoring and only making the situation worse as far as division. I have zero respect for those who choose to accept this lie from this man who has been proven to lie pretty much every time he opens his mouth…he is lying about this. It isn’t about that piece of cloth…it is about the way the nation it represents treats a large group of citizens and your refusal to admit that is exactly why they need to continue to do it.

  18. ubb44 says:
    October 11, 2017 at 7:48 am
    Remove their “non-profit” status
    _______________

    The NFL elected to do that 3 years ago. That fact hasn’t stopped the President from pretending like they are still non-profit, so I guess you can too if you want.

    It’s a sad state of affairs when the president’s biggest accomplishment will be “forced NFL players to stand for anthem”. Forced patriotism isn’t patriotism and silencing dissent is about the most un-American act possible. We put the flag on everything from paper plates to beer can (ie trash) from t-shirts to bikinis all of which are as disrespectful as kneeling. But that’s not a national issue because us pink skinned folk use those items and we’re the definition of patriotism.

  19. NFL ratings down 8% in the last month….Sponsors are starting to worry and that’s who the NFL brass care about………I’m all for people exercising their rights to protest, but there’s a right time and a wrong time to do it, and kneeling during the national anthem is the wrong time and most Americans agree it’s disrespecting the flag and Anthem, IMO…..Almost 70% of Americans agree with the President on this that you should stand up and respect the Flag and Anthem and those who fought and lost their lives and limps protecting your right to protest….Players already have a platform because they’re in the NFL to effect change in their community, but instead the President has put them in a corner by making it about respecting the Flag and Anthem….

  20. Yeah I get it. The same man who cares so much about patriotism and the flag that he refuses to address the mistreatment of veterans and who verbally attacked a decorated POW…

  21. The President of the United States demands respect for the flag

    ===================================================================

    Is that before or after he dodged the draft, or ridiculed a POW?

  22. Players who DO NOT STAND for the anthem apparently did not pay attention in college. Where else will the protesting players take their talents and earn millions of dollars playing a boys game. Its a simple situation of supply and demand. No demand means no supply of money, no money and those protesters will be doing what?, Rockets Science? I do think so. STAND UP! Be happy this country provided all of us the opportunity to try and play and Sunday. You are the best. Be appreciative!

  23. Standing for the anthem because Trump (or anyone else) said so is not a condition of employment for NFL players. As we’ve already witnessed, every time Trump opens his big mouth about it, more and more players kneel during the anthem than before. All of the people I know are glad Trump’s base is done with the NFL. Great! Can we get that in writing?

  24. Patriot1 says:
    October 11, 2017 at 8:26 am

    patriotism is the refuge of scoundrels.

    Amendment I. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

    Anyone who disagrees can take a hike.

    You’re ignorant and the constitution is readily available online for free. If you’re so concerned about your 2nd Amendment, respect the first. And Trump can take a hike.

    >>> Hey genius, maybe you should read that again. No one is saying players should be put in jail, no one is talking about passing any laws related to this, and I don’t see “employer” listed in there – only “congress”. Quit dragging the 1st Amendment into an argument where it’s not relevant.

  25. We’re all arguing over this completely made up political issue meant to keep us arguing with each other. Do we really have to give in to the dog wagging? So many important things are currently happening at home and abroad that deserve not only our attention, but certainly the President’s. Mr. Trump, please stop tweeting about the NFL and do your job. We need our president to unite us, not divide us. There are too many global threats to be wasting time in a manufactured culture war at home.

  26. “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

    I don’t see a damn thing in that amendment about when or where only how. Now if you don’t want athletes to petition peacefully, you’ll eventually get an assembly of people with a lot less to lose getting together not so peacefully. Love or leave it, buddy! The US Constitution protects the rights of those who choose to kneel. Forcing people to do otherwise is a disrespect to the men and women who fought fascism so all of us could quibble on PFT.

  27. Call it bluster if you want, but the fact is if Trump didn’t call the NFL out on this, nothing would be changing. Just like he made illegal immigration the topic of the campaign. He says what the silent majority has been thinking all along….like it or not.

  28. Draft dodging worm using this to distract from his massive corruption and theft of public wealth

  29. Isn’t obvious that Trump has an axe to grind against the NFL? There are sooooo many other issues right now that clown could focus on. But he continues to obsess over something many are sick and tired of hearing about. Focus on getting your tax cuts! Focus on getting healthcare fixed! We know you are bitter towards the NFL. They didn’t let you join their club for this reason…you’re a joke!

  30. Trump was right. We’re winning so much I am getting a little tired of it! So tired I’m turning the nfl off! yay!

  31. Actually, Goodell’s new stance has nothing to do with Trump. It has to do with the NFL advertiser’s getting numerous complaints. And when I say numerous, I mean more than their call centers can handle. Taking a knee does nothing to bring change. It only upsets people. That protest should be in front of police stations and government offices. But, it’s just a bunch of people that don’t know what they’re doing. And most of them don’t even know what they’re protesting. But those that do know what they’re doing? They’re forcing Goodell to play his hand.

  32. Trump knows that “as goes the NFL” “so goes the nation”. The main ingredient that fuels a war is patriotism and he knows that

  33. kjack59 says:
    October 11, 2017 at 9:00 am
    The Land of the Free. That includes the freedom to kneel during the anthem.

    ———-

    How about you stage a protest at your job today that alienates 1/2 of your company’s customers. Let’s see how “free” you are after that.

  34. California is on fire, much of Puerto Rico is still without power and water, Nazis are vowing to continue to march on our streets, we’re on the brink of nuclear war with North Korea, and this is all that this idiot in the White House can spend his time on?

  35. As a business owner who sells a product everyone regardless of race, religion, sexual orientation or political affiliation uses.
    I would never try to alienate anyone with my advertising or business practices.
    If I did it would severely restrict the amount of business I do. The Players need to understand the current trend of fans leaving in droves will eventually impact their bottom line in the form of reduction of salary cap. due to reduction in revenue streams across the board tickets, merch and advertisers etc etc.
    As an employer my employees are at will.
    WHEN YOUR ACTIONS START IMPACTING MY BOTTOM LINE.
    YOU ARE NO LONGER AN ASSET. YOU BECOME A LIABILITY
    IT IS SIMPLY TIME FOR THEM TO GO.

  36. The only hate here comes from Colin Kaepernick, and it was long before the president came along. He hates America (it was never great) and cops (pig socks). Apparently he also hates voting, reading a playbook, and $14M/yr contracts.

  37. unclmikl says:
    October 11, 2017 at 9:50 am
    As a business owner who sells a product everyone regardless of race, religion, sexual orientation or political affiliation uses.
    I would never try to alienate anyone with my advertising or business practices.
    If I did it would severely restrict the amount of business I do. The Players need to understand the current trend of fans leaving in droves will eventually impact their bottom line in the form of reduction of salary cap. due to reduction in revenue streams across the board tickets, merch and advertisers etc etc.
    As an employer my employees are at will.
    WHEN YOUR ACTIONS START IMPACTING MY BOTTOM LINE.
    YOU ARE NO LONGER AN ASSET. YOU BECOME A LIABILITY
    IT IS SIMPLY TIME FOR THEM TO GO.

    —————

    These self-absorbed primadonnas don’t see it that way. They believe the fans are there for them….not the other way around. It’s time for a reality check.

  38. Unfortunately Trump does not understand the constitution….and that is fine!!

    Better to be like North Korea FORCING so called Patriotism…..

    THAT is not what the founding fathers fought for.

  39. Sigh… I say it again. #45 can walk into his hotel and demand that his employees do whatever he says. If he doesn’t like how someone is dressed, he can demand they go home and change. If he doesn’t like the decor, he can demand that the manager changes it. Unfortunately, that’s not how a head of state leads (unless you’re a dictatorship.) The sooner he learns that….

  40. There are many things I can’t do at work because it might upset customers, even though I have a constitutional right to do many of these things. The NFL is a for profit private enterprise, not a government institution. Ultimately, the owners of this for profit private enterprise can dictate a code of conduct that is to be followed by all it’s employees. Why is that so difficult to understand?

  41. And I’ll say again, this isn’t about anything other than revenge for The Great Divider. The NFL humiliated him, kicked his ass like it’s never been kicked when he challenged them by playing USFL games in the fall. TGD never forgets, never gives up on revenge. And he’s getting it. None of these other issues matter to him in the least. Revenge, that’s all this is about.

  42. Amendment I. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
    Anyone who disagrees can take a hike.
    You’re ignorant and the constitution is readily available online for free. If you’re so concerned about your 2nd Amendment, respect the first. And Trump can take a hike.

    ****
    Hey Founding Father wanna-be….this is NOT and constitutional issue.. This is an Employer/Employee relationship…you give up certain rights in return for a PAYCHECK.
    ***Have you EVER had a JOB???????

  43. raiduhs says:
    October 11, 2017 at 1:07 pm
    {snip}
    ****
    Hey Founding Father wanna-be….this is NOT and constitutional issue.. This is an Employer/Employee relationship…you give up certain rights in return for a PAYCHECK.
    ***Have you EVER had a JOB???????
    ——————————————–

    Yet the president (government) is trying to force an employer to do something it doesn’t seem to have an issue with its employees doing. Americans have a very hard time with what real freedom might look like from the psuedo-free snow globe we live in…

  44. People who try and use the constitution to defend their position when it isn’t a constitutional issue to begin with should be taken out into a a field…and forced to read the constitution over and over again until they understand what it actually says. Then they should have to write a book report on it to prove it. Or we can do what we do to rabid dogs in the field…

  45. The Star Spangled Banner includes the following lyrics in verse 3:

    No refuge could save the hireling and slave
    From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave

    You want black folks to stand for a song that glorifies slavery as an American virtue? Seriously? Black men more likely to be assaulted by the police, and that includes unarmed black men who “resemble” someone who commited a crime (because they all look alike?). Thanks to cell phones and other portable video cameras, there’s a lot of evidence demonstrating bad behavior by some of the police.

    Denying there’s a problem doesn’t make it go away. Why should these US citizens stand for the national anthem when it doesn’t stand for them?

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