Mike Zimmer doesn’t think Anthony Barr’s hit on Aaron Rodgers was “dirty”

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Vikings linebacker Anthony Barr‘s hit on Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers might have been a lot of things (including season-changing for the league and the Packers).

But according to Vikings coach Mike Zimmer, it wasn’t “dirty.”

We’re playing football,” Zimmer said, via Courtney Cronin of ESPN.com. “It’s unfortunate that he got hurt but I think everything was above board. We’re not a dirty football team. We’ll never be a dirty football team as long as I’m here. We’re going to play within the rules and sometimes things happen.”

The thing that happened was a broken collarbone, which will require surgery and may end the season of the former MVP. And that’s bad news for a team that hoped to contend for a title and a league which has already lost stars such as Odell Beckham Jr. and J.J. Watt for the year.

Packers coach Mike McCarthy disagreed with Zimmer’s take, saying Barr went too far by drilling Rodgers into the ground after he threw.

“He’s out of the pocket, he’s clearly expecting to get hit, but to pin him to the ground like that, I think was an illegal act,” McCarthy said. “I didn’t like the hit. It was totally unnecessary in my opinion.”

Opinions in Wisconsin and Minnesota will likely vary wildly, and come down along party lines.

238 responses to “Mike Zimmer doesn’t think Anthony Barr’s hit on Aaron Rodgers was “dirty”

  1. League changing? It’s one player, on a very mediocre team. He’s not bigger than the league, stop clamoring for a rule change because one aging QB got hurt. It wasn’t dirty, it’s football. Stars are no more immune to injury than anyone else, clean hit or not.

  2. Zimmer would think otherwise if it were his starting QB. Close call, could go either way on it. Sad day for the NFL though. A true good guy and great player and leader of men!!!

  3. 90% or the time innthat situation, the rusher either gives a two hand shove or pulls up completely. This was a rare situation where the rusher actually followed through. The fact that Barr took it a step further and drove him into the ground is what everyone is upset about, and potentially illegal. I don’t think a play even has to be illegal for it to be considered dirty. If the act is unnecessary, albeit legal, it can still be considered dirty.

    If a rule change comes, don’t blame it on Rodgers. This one is on Barr, much like Bernard Pollard shouldered the blame for the “Tom Brady” rule at lunging below the waist while the defender is on the ground which knocked Brady out for a season.

    And even if you don’t think that play was dirty, can we at least agree that Barr head butting Tae Adams one week after he cleared the concussion protocol is dirty?

  4. Who cares? It’s football. All the star QB’s get special treatment, Karen Rodgers got hurt. So be it. That’s what happens when you play a highly physical defense. I think that defense hurt about half of the packer team on Sunday. I saw the replay on Sportcenter at the hot looked fine to me. Packers are mad their star got injured and I understand why. Now hope is lost for their season. They may find a way to get Hundley up to speed though, it’s a good learning experience for the kid.

  5. The hit was late, but it was clean.

    Yes I’m a Vikings fan, but it’s the sort of hit that had no injury occurred, then we wouldn’t be talking about it.The League may very well retrospectively punish Barr with a minor fine, and that would be in keeping with their established record.

    I genuinely hope that the injury to Rodgers doesn’t end his entire season. However, if it does, then I hope he recovers fully as he and Brady are simply the best QBs currently in the League, especially when their respective team needs them to carry their offense on their back.

  6. Come on!! This is football. I guess next time Barr should just let Aaron pump the ball and take off for a 20 yard scamper. If you don’t want your quarterback hit, tell him to stay in the pocket, he is not different than a RB at this point.

    No flag, no pending NFL investigation, no fines= clean hit

  7. Zimmer’s right, McCarthy is spewing sour grapes.

    The broken collar bone is the result of Rodgers falling awkwardly. As a former competitive skier – I know how critical it is to fall correctly. The body can absorb a lot of impact without damage.

    In football, just like in ski racing, it’s a question of when, not if, you fall.

  8. I agree with Zimmer. If that would have happened to Ryan, McKown, Cutler, Marriota etc. nothing would be said except, “That’s Football”
    Anthony Barr was doing what he is paid to do, chase down the QB at full speed, what is he supposed to do, come to a stop every time a QB pump fakes.
    Note to the NFL, DON’T CHANGE RULES BECAUSE OF THIS.

  9. Teams that can’t compete have to rely on dirty tactics to win. It’s been 60 years of poor drafts and mismanagement for the Vikes, so not at all surprised at dirty play like this from them. They’ll get their’s, no doubt about that.

  10. Anyone who’s played football knows that’s a routine hit at all levels of the game. I don’t wish ill on anyone, Rodgers included, but I can’t help but acknowledge that the only reason we’re still talking about this is that he wears #12 in green and gold. Get well soon.

  11. Very close as far as being late. Rodgers usually demands and gets those calls. Anthony Barr possesses rare speed for his size, and if the back judge thought he could stop easily he would have flagged him. Barr has no priors as far as unsportsmanlike hits. We all wish that ARodg had learned by now to tuck in the arm.

  12. Mike is playing it smart on this one , trust me,,,because his players are gonna be looking for the same opportunities to treat a quarterback once he breaks the pocket like a philthy trash bag !

  13. It wasn’t dirty. Injuries happen. People are only making a big deal out of it because of who was injured.

    I saw Mariota get hit late several times last night with no penalties and this was a QB coming off a hamstring injury clearly hobbling. The intent was clear.

    That is the sort of thing that needs to be flagged. I guarantee you if Rogers had been hit like Mariota, flags would’ve flown.

  14. “Season changing for the league and the Packers”….
    “Bad news for a league which has already lost stars such as”….

    Give me a freaking break man. Injuries happen, all the time, to important players on every team. Every injury is potentially season-changing for a team. The way you guys make it sound like the earth just stopped spinning makes me want to puke.

    Guess it’s not about the game. It’s about having the “stars” on the field for ratings, and you guys are all willing to destroy the game to make sure that those stars are on the field.

  15. Maybe McCarthy should watch some tapes of Mathews before making comments like that. Let’s see Mike, Mathews leading with the crown of his helmet into the the bears QB breaking his wrist is a clean play. I’m sure there are plenty of videos out there of him and others pile driving the QB to the ground.

  16. Because it wasn’t.

    Look, not a Packers or Vikings fan, or really an NFC team supporter so I have no dog in this fight, but it looked to me like a typical tackle.

    Was Barr trying to make sure ARod knew he was going to get hit in that game? Sure. Is that unique for how people play QBs like Rodgers? No.

    It was an unfortunate ending to a legal tackle but he didn’t dive at his knees, lower his helmet into him or do anything that would constitute an illegal hit. He wrapped him up and brought him down. Just so happens he was hurt upon the impact of the turf but that’s why Football is a violent sport.

    These things happen unfortunately no matter how many times they change the rules

  17. “Ball is thrown……start counting…1-1000, 2-1000, …….one step…..two steps……Rodgers’ running speed declines…..Barrs’ running speed increases……lowers his head…..drills Rodgers…….STOP. That’s where it should have ended. But…….

    ……holds him in his grasp……continues driving his feet…… lifts him up…… drills him into the ground while maintaining contact……accomplishes his intent to hurt or harm unnecessarily. That’s was his intent. No mistaking.

    Momentum my ass. Legal? Assuredly. Dirty? Without a doubt.

    One thing the Packers will remember……this season is not over. If they aren’t involved in the playoff race at the end of the season, but the Vikings are and the game at Lambeau is crucial, well, I for one cannot wait.

  18. Sour grapes by McCarthy, he wasn’t slammed to the ground. How many times have we seen Rodgers fake pump, and when they defender holds up, then runs around him? Barr didn’t fall for it this time, Rodgers knew he was going to get hit and made the mistake of putting his hand down.

  19. I’m in Wisconsin and I’m a Packers fan, and I don’t think it was a dirty hit. They’re playing football, and unfortunately people get hurt on plays like that. Rodgers has been hit in a similar way dozens of times and had no problems. Sometimes it’s just that angle or position your arm is in when you fall that makes the difference.

    Still disgusting to see people celebrating an injury, but that’s another topic entirely.

  20. I am Packer fan after my own team … not the Vikings … and since the internet is perfect for sharing opinions no one else cares about … here’s mine …

    Not dirty but not clean … the tackler seems to add a little unnecessary air and then force on the way down

    Now that shared my opinion with no one I know or whose opinions I value, I will leave PFT and not check back to see if my post was posted, who agreed, who disagreed … In fact .. I didn’t read any otter persons post

  21. Knocking Rodgers out, intentionally, was the only play the Vikings had to unseat the Packers from their North Division dominance. The Vikings had a Pro-Bowl QB under center last year, a Vaunted Defense, a 5-0 start……and couldn’t get it done. Zimmers’ job is on the hot seat if they fail again this year, especially at the hand of Rodgers. Desperate teams do desperate things. Zimmer should have remained silent on this one. He knows. I didn’t have a feeling for the guy one way or the other……until now.

  22. I’m not sure if the hit was illegal. But the pile driving at the end of the play was unnecessary. The league will fine Barr and its justified.

  23. Not a fan of either team. Like watching Rodgers do his magic except against he Cardinals of course, but I have no problem with the hit. Bad things happen to good people sometimes…

  24. It’s a very unfortunate injury, but any time a player gets hurt it’s unfortunate. Anthony Barr is not a dirty player. He was running full speed to make sure Rodgers did not take off and scramble. If you watched the past three Vikings games, you’ll see a team that was failing to wrap up, so emphasis has been put on that. It’s a violent sport and players get hurt. It sucks, but if that was Clay Matthews vs Case Keenum, McCarthy wouldn’t have found it dirty or illegal.

  25. 99% fans and players agreed it was not a dirty hit. Packer however, do not agree bc they’re battling for 4th place bottom in the north.

  26. He knew what he was doing and got the result he desired. It was a perfectly legal removal of the source of the Vikings frustrations. Congrats to the Vikes, it’s their division to lose now. There’s never going to be a better chance to finally put something in that empty trophy case.

  27. He knew what he was doing. He could have stopped in time, not wrapped up and drove him into the ground. It wasn’t even close to being a sack. It was almost along the same lines of Charles Martins hit on Jim McMahon, Barr just didn’t have 12 written his towel. As a Packers fan I was totally embarrassed of that incident, I doubt any Vikings fans are embarrassed by this. We’ll see what happens when fine get handed out.

  28. If this same play injures a QB for season on 25 different teams. No one would say a word about dirty play.Rodgers is great and unfortunately he gets every call in his favor. Because it’s Rodgers, the play is under a microscope and people are talking about adding more rules to make QB’s more protected. Might as well get rid of defenses and put a flag on the QB’s.

  29. The only people who think the hit was dirty are Rodgers, who apparently feels entitled to never be touched even as he is outside the pocket, breaking tackles and either launching TDs or running for first downs, Clay Matthews, who evidently forgot that he is one of the biggest cheap shot artists in the league, and a bunch of Packer fans.

  30. “I didn’t like the hit. It was totally unnecessary in my opinion.”

    Of course you didn’t, McCarthy, but no one asked if you did. I suppose that’s a requirement to play against you is to run all hits by you to see if you like them? It was a legal hit and you’re just butthurt that your discount double-check got wrecked. Leave the pocket, get treated like the other 21 people on the field.

  31. The hit might have been legal, but don’t try to say it wasn’t dirty. And since Barr later in the game was given a 15 yard penalty for head butting a packer he starts to get put into a “dirty” category. I had no problem with Rodgers getting hit there, but he had clearly gotten rid of the ball, that’s when u give him a shot to make him think about leaving the pocket. There’s a difference between a “shot” though, and continuing on with a complete tackle.

  32. Definitely was NOT dirty, Packers are the whiniest group in the NFL. The also get the most help from officiating then any other team the history of the NFL, when they need it the least.

  33. Look at the action, not the result. If Rodgers doesn’t get hurt it’s a moot point and no one even talks about the play. And if Barr comes in and blasts Rodgers but doesn’t wrap up people would say that’s dirty. Also, when you coach clay Matthews you don’t get to be upset about any plays being dirty ever.

  34. Full disclosure: long time Viking fan (since the 80’s). I don’t see how this was a dirty hit. I didn’t think it was dirty during the game (and I remember thinking there’s no way Rodgers doesn’t come back after one play at the time), and I haven’t changed my mind at all since, after watching more replays. It seems simple – Rodgers was out of the pocket, in position to burn the defense like we’ve seen so many other times, and he was form-tackled within a *split second* of releasing the ball, also like he has been many times before. An example of a dirty hit would be carlos jenkins snapping warren moons collarbone by driving his helmet into it in 92 or 93. I don’t understand why McCarthy would think or say this other than being irritated by the new reality of actually having to gameplan and coach offense now.

  35. What’s he supposed to say? Yes, it was a dirty hit. And, we pulled Barr from the game with a phony concussion excuse because we were afraid Packers were going to retaliate since it was such a dirty hit.

  36. Clean hit. Good hit. Textbook. Can’t hit ’em high; can’t ’em low. Perfect hit placement by Barr. Rogers had been rolling out to buy time because he had no line. Had to carry the team on his shoulders, just like Brettt, who also always had to roll out.

  37. The hit wasnt “dirty”. But it was also “unnecessary”. I think both statements by the head coaches are true. Barr could have just shoved Rodgers to the ground, but instead he chose to full-on tackle him and made sure to land on him. He knew what he was doing.

  38. Anyone that thinks the hit was dirty wants the NFL to become flag football. cry babies. I dont care about either team, but lets wait and see if this creates an “Aaron Rodgers Rule” next year

  39. .
    The Barr hit was very similar to the hit by Miami LB Kiko Alonso that put Patriots QB, Jimmy Garopollo, on the sidelines last year. It seems that every time a defensive player gets a free shot at a QB, they like to give them “one to grow on”. It’s not quite illegal but it helps the QB to remember his name.
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  40. It wasn’t dirty. If you watch it back in real time it was bang-bang…and Barr didn’t “drive” him into the turf. He tackled him. The difference was Rodgers putting his arm down to brace his fall. That put his shoulder in a vulnerable position. If this wasn’t Aaron Rodgers, not one person would be talking about the hit. It was a garden-variety tackle. And it wasn’t even flagged.

  41. McCarthy, it was a heavy but mundane hit of the sort that many RBs take in games every week – and which is why many RBs careers are short. QBs already get too much protection, and once a QB is running around out of the pocket he’s an RB, which is why Rodgers has been literally running his luck with his risky out-of-pocket theatrics. Yes it can win many games but comes with great risk – and you’ve just discovered, many years after what became obvious to everyone else, what that risk amounts to.

    If you want to see an unpenalized 100% illegal hit, just look 2 weeks ago at a Tampa dive at Brady’s knees 4 seconds after he threw and was just stood there – in the pocket.

  42. If you don’t want your MVP quarterback hurt, don’t have him scramble out of the pocket. He can fall down when someone gets close to him like Manning did at the end of his career. If he is going to try and make a play, people will hit him. Can’t have it both ways.

  43. If it was Clay Matthews and tackling Bradford like that, McCarthy would be saying it was a clean hit and those things happen. So, shut up McCarthy.

  44. McCarthy is just upset and defending his player. What else would you expect. Barr landed solidly on top of Rodgers but rolled over him after a clean hit. “To pin him on the ground like that”, is not an accurate description of what happened.

  45. Packers predicting Supper Bowl in Minneapolis in the off season? Back in ur face. You can only dream now.

  46. It’s GD football… it wasn’t dirty. If it went the other way, Zim probably would have the same mindset, but McCarthy’s would change. Football is a violent sport, and the hit was something that happens regularly, it was just the “right” hit to break the bone, but completely legal!

  47. I’d also hesitate to call it dirty. But it was unnecessary. He had plenty of time after Rodgers released the ball to pull up. He also didn’t need to ride him into the ground after it was clear Rodgers had gotten rid of the ball. I understand a defender can’t always pull up, but in this case he easily could have. It was a free, legal shot at the QB, & he took it… like most defenders would.

  48. Did anyone see a flag thrown on that play? Anyone hear about any fine issues by the NFL? No? Well that’s because the hit has perfectly legal and similar to many hits on QBs that occur each and every week during the season.

    Packer fans are upset because the season was just ruined for them. Looking for someone or something to blame won’t help.

  49. That hit was fine. It wasnt even as bad as an average tackle to any other payer on the field. It is ridiculous that McCarthy would say anything about it.

  50. It was not a dirty hit. Clean, form tackle that all defenders are taught from junior ball to professional. I can empathize though, as a Cowboys/Romo fan, it sucks to have your star qb out indefinitely(more likely the year). Mccarthy is wrong to come out and say it was dirty, knowing the consequences that are possible on every play in the nfl–pack are actually lucky that Rogers has actually had a good track record regarding injury v missed time.

  51. Defensive player are coached to do that move, though they would never admin it. The old Reggie White move, drive the guy into the ground with your full weight on top of him. If he breaks his collarbone or clavical too bad. Cheap shot but legal unfortunately. And if he gets a 15 yard penalty big deal, he is a hero for knocking the star qb out of the game. That’s the NFL

  52. Zimmer is right. The only reason there is any fuss being made about this at all is because Rodgers is one of the highest, if not the highest, profile player in the league. I for one cannot count the number of times I’ve seen Rodgers roll out like that, do a pump fake, and take off running. Barr is supposed to keep playing until the whistle blows, and that’s what he did. It’s a tough break for Rodgers and the Packers, but Vikings fans aren’t exactly unfamiliar with QB injuries.

    If Barr had done that to Mitchell Trubisky last week, little to no attention would have been paid to whether this was a “dirty” play.

  53. I am admitted a Vikings fan but I didn’t see anything there that is worse than any hit a QB takes when out of the pocket. I have seen Rogers get hit much worse and certainly Bradford pummeled last year. The Saints absolutely killed Brett Favre in the title game not that many years ago. No one started calling it a dirty hit until the extent of the injury was disclosed. Rogers sells tickets, jerseys, TV ad memorabilia. That is why it is now a dirty hit. Too much money on the table. I am disappointing in the double standard here. If he was a no name player on the punt return team, no one would care.

  54. When you hold on to the ball after your protection breaks down and then again when you leave the pocket to try to make a play, you accept the risk. Rodgers, being an upstanding guy and a football player, will probably tell you he got tackled. We have given up so many liberties, options, resources, and possibilitiee in this country when we allow a tragic incident or fear of a worst case scenario to drive some hysterical action like a one-size-fits-all law, policy, or regulation. Just ask millions of chronic pain sufferers who have been demonized, harassed, or inconvenienced because of strangulating prescription laws enacted by lawmakers pandering to cops and the grieving relatives of deceased heroin addicts. Just one example of a police state we created in an effort to eliminate every conceivable bad thing. Bad enough we are close to removing kickoff returns from the game. But this game is not as fun to watch as it was in the 80s. Be careful. Exacting your pound of Viking flesh for the injury to Rodgers will have consequences.

  55. It was a bit on the late side but not a hard/dirty hit. Barr didn’t even land on Rodgers. Rodgers just hit the ground wrong. I’m with the “it happens” crowd on the injury though it probably should have drawn a flag for lateness.

  56. That play was one of the most benign play you see almost every Sunday and no one bats an eye when it happens. No one calls it dirty. Cam Newton, Russell Wilson, virtually every QB who makes a significant amount of plays outside the pocket has been hit similarly before. Heck…I bet we could find tape of Rodgers getting hit like that before last Sunday. You can’t legislate injuries out the game.

  57. I’ve seen Rodgers drilled worse than that several times after releasing a pass. It’s just unlucky how he landed (maybe on his elbow smashing back his shoulder).
    McCarthy is wrong. Too emotional. He should remember what always Obama said “Never let them see you sweat”.

  58. Not a fan of either team. Looked like a tackle to me. Agree with Mike McCarthy about being angry at the reporter for asking a question that had been answered already. Disagree about the hit- if that’s not allowed, then we are definitely lining up for flag football.

  59. The hit was clean, no different then the other 1,000 tackles this weekend that were clean. If this was Case Keenum that was injured McCarthy would be saying it was clean, but then again the media wouldn’t have ever asked the question.

  60. packer fans are crushed because rodgers is their whole team and they know it. maybe ol ted should actually build a team instead of riding rodgers coattails his whole career. the vikings are without Teddy, Sam, AP, Dalvin this year and are 4-2 in first place.

    it’s simply a better organization for better people.

  61. It was a tackle, one like the old days where you wrap you arms around someone, not try and head butt them, or take your shoulder and hit them high or low like they are taught to do now. Rogers is a weakling who will never make it three more years. Hell he may be done now for all we know.
    He aint coming back this season or the playoffs, but this team is so god awful they aint going to the playoffs. Not with games against the lions bears and vikes again and NO will kick their butts on Sunday.
    This is Ted t’s cheap ball team with one great play maker who is gone.

  62. it sinks for the NFL, fans, and teams when a major QB gets taken out by something that was easily avoidable

    it was completely unnecessary to drive Rodgers to the ground and roll him on his throwing shoulder, Barr saw the throw and could have easily just pushed him to the ground…. it changes the entire NFL overnight, dissapoints many fans, and creates unfair advantage

    everyone says QBs have too much protection every few years when a new rule comes out, but they dont seem to have any problem with it 2 years down the road when their guy gets saved from being out on IR

    Rodgers got driven to the ground by a helmet and rolled…. it should be illegal

  63. I disagree that Barr “Drilled Rodgers into the ground”. That’s why there was not a flag and should not be a fine. Rodgers has built his career on leaving the pocket to make things happen. Surely he knew that it was only a matter of time before an injurious tackle would come along. Rodgers is, was and always will be an insecure, overly sensitive baby for the way he verbally attacked Barr after the play. I am a Vikings fan but quite honestly, my interest in game waned after Rodgers left. It was zero fun to watch the game after that. We won but so what? We didn’t beat the real outstanding Packers. I hope his recovery is complete and swift.

  64. This is silly at this point it wasn’t a dirty hit. Go look at the tape of Boley’s hit on Romo in 2010 or Hicks’s hit on Romo in 2015 or Davis’s hit on Romo in 2016. Did anyone call those dirty? No, because they were legal hits. Boley hit Romo the same way Rodgers got hit. Enough with this nonsense because it Rodgers, if it was any other QB this would be a dead issue.

  65. Barr is a tough, very effective defensive player. He was doing his job on Sunday and I hope he does his job next Sunday against Joe Flacco. McCarthy is whining because HE KNOWS his own coaching goose is cooked without Rodgers. Maybe he should take a page from Zimmer when he’s had a rash of injured players: Don’t feel sorry for yourself & just be talented and creative enough to make lemonade outa lemons.

  66. Unnecessary yes, dirty no. I do think he saw Aaron throw the ball so he didn’t need to tackle him there but I understand Barr wanting to make his presence felt. Too bad he got injured but I don’t think Barr was trying to injure him.

    Hopefully Hundley can play winning football but this Packer fan doesn’t have a whole lot of faith that he can with McCarthy calling the plays for him.

  67. Get over it McCarthy, it wasn’t a dirty hit, nor was he pinned. Put the red jersey on him and trot him out when he comes back if you don’t want him to take clean hits. I watched it in person. No one on your side line went nuts like all teams do on a bad or dirty hit. You weren’t chirping at the refs at all. Well now that you know the outcome of the hit, now you’re saying it was bad. Welcome to life in the NFL with your backup QB. Miami and Minnesota are happy you joined them.

  68. Every hit that results in injury to one of the NFL “Golden Boys” always ends up in a debate over whether or not it was dirty and it’s nothing but cry, cry, cry. This is what’s making people watch less football. Don’t be fooled by the “kneel and boycott” smoke and mirrors. That’s nothing but a lame excuse for the media to blame anyone but themselves.

  69. Don’t leave the pocket next time. Rodgers is living on borrowed time every time he starts running around. It is just a matter of time before he gets hurt when he plays the way he does.

  70. stellarperformance says:
    October 17, 2017 at 7:15 am
    Knocking Rodgers out, intentionally, was the only play the Vikings had to unseat the Packers from their North Division dominance. The Vikings had a Pro-Bowl QB under center last year, a Vaunted Defense, a 5-0 start……and couldn’t get it done. Zimmers’ job is on the hot seat if they fail again this year, especially at the hand of Rodgers. Desperate teams do desperate things. Zimmer should have remained silent on this one. He knows. I didn’t have a feeling for the guy one way or the other……until now.
    __________

    Vikings are 3-1 vs the Packers in the last 4 games….so there goes your dominance…after injuries decimated the Vikings offense last year Packers fans said there are no excuses…. “next man up” …that applies here too…stop crying…it’s not a good look….

  71. For anyone saying the hit was late, look at the pic at the top of this very article. Rodgers still has the ball, Barr is inches away from him, and remember they are way out of the pocket and Barr is running at full speed. Explain to us how he is gonna let up.

  72. “Rodgers is such an unbelievable QB! His ability to extend plays, use his legs and his arm is unparalleled.”

    (Rodgers extends a play and scrambles outside of the pocket and gets tackled resulting in injury)

    “What a dirty play! Barr knew Rodgers was going throw the ball and should have stopped running to allow him to either A.) get a clean, unobstructed throw, or B.) keep the ball and run 10 yards! He had intent to injure! A frame by frame, slow motion replay shows it was clearly late and dirty!”

  73. McCarthy needs to shut his mouth. He has the dirtiest player in the league not named Burfict. Matthews speared Foles, Hoyer and Bradford. Clotheslined Kaepernick and blind side late hit on Wilson. All totaling around 100k in fines. If Rodgers is such a wimp maybe he should stay in the pocket.

  74. If you read the rules the hit was legal. No flag. No more tears. Not so funny now that it’s your guy is it packa fans?

    Rodgers has been hit like that countless times. Once in a while, his collarbone breaks. It is what it is.

    What about the guy who missed the block on Barr? Isn’t it his fault?

  75. Most of the comments are biased,…… go figure ?
    But ultimately Barr intended to put a hurt on Rodgers and he did.
    You can argue all day and night if it was legal or not. But as I said, Barr was looking to knock Rodgers out of the game by flopping on him. The tape doesn’t lie.

  76. For those saying that Rodgers should have simply “fallen correctly,” you are ignoring the fact that Barr was in control of AR through the contact with the ground.

    The part of the hit that was dirty was the portion where Barr drives AR into the ground. Player to player hit would have been fine, but driving to the ground fits the definition of unnecessary as the ball was out 1.5 steps prior to contact and there is no way Barr thought AR still had the ball.

    You drive player to the ground when they have the ball, there is no reason to do so when they don’t have the ball, outside of malicious intent.

  77. Ref was right there and did not throw a flag. NFL announcers agreed it was a clean hit, the NFL ref they called reviewed the play and said it was clean. Its unfortunate for GB their QB got hurt, but Rogers has extended plays with his feet numerous times. In super slow motion it looks bad, but real speed it was a bang, bang play and the tackle was textbook. He drove through the player at chest level. If you make that play illegal then you might as well put flags on everyone on offense and play flag football. You can’t go back on every clean tackle and call it illegal IF the player tackled gets injured, its part of the game.

  78. It wasn’t dirty. Could it have been avoidable? Yes. Would 99.999%of all other defenders do the same, including Packers? Yes. Just happened to be this particular hit that broke Rodgers’ collar bone.

  79. Purple People Eaters says:
    October 17, 2017 at 8:00 am
    What’s he supposed to say? Yes, it was a dirty hit. And, we pulled Barr from the game with a phony concussion excuse because we were afraid Packers were going to retaliate since it was such a dirty hit.
    ——————————-
    You & Trump with the conspiracy theories
    Don’t think 6’5″ 260 lb Barr was afraid of your REALLY BAD O-Line–he really did have a concussion, the guy plays hard.
    And you’re a Vikings fan, my foot, Cheesy

  80. I do find it hilarious that the Barneys are always trying to label Clay Matthews as a dirty player, yet find absolutely nothing wrong with Barrs hit on Rodgers.
    It’s hypocrisy at its finest, but I would expect nothing less from them.

  81. I’m not a fan of either team, but I am an NFL fan. The hit wasn’t dirty, but it was unnecessary. It was legal though. The hit on Davante Adams a couple weeks ago was dirty. They could make a rule that says the defender has to make an effort to let the QB down gently. That would just open up a can of worms. They could say the QB is down as soon as a defender gets two hands on him. Kind of like two hand touch. I don’t like to see good QBs on the sidelines. Sam Bradford, Aaron Rodgers, Andrew Luck. Derek Carr. Those guys are a big part of the reason I’m spending Sunday watching football. I’m not watching for the big hits. I couldn’t care less about that. These QBs are highly skilled guys. At the end of the day, Barr’s hit was legal, and his intention was to put the best QB in the league out of the game to give his team a better chance to win. I can’t blame Barr. I can’t blame the league either. People are going to complain either way. That’s what we do best.

  82. Look, if the Packers are the great “team” all their fans say they are then it should be next man up and lets go.

    But, if they are like most of the other fans in the league think they are which is Rodgers and 52 other guys then they are in trouble. Lets see which one they are?

  83. stellarperformance says:

    Knocking Rodgers out, intentionally, was the only play the Vikings had to unseat the Packers from their North Division dominance.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    What dominance?

    The Vikings have won 3 of the last 4 games against the Packers and won the Division by beating the Packers at Lambeau in week 17 of the 2015 season.

    Everyone knows that the only reason that Rodgers got hurt was he fell awkwardly.

    Just because Rodgers is used to getting preferential treatment doesn’t mean he can’t be hit. He should know how to fall and not get hurt.

  84. … I don’t like to see good QBs on the sidelines. Sam Bradford, Aaron Rodgers, Andrew Luck. Derek Carr. Those guys are a big part of the reason I’m spending Sunday watching football….
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    I get Aaron Rodgers, and I get that Luck and Carr have shown flashes of elite potential when healthy.

    But Sam Bradford? Really? You watch football for Bradford?

  85. I don’t think it was dirty. Unnecessary, yes; dirty, no. This again is a situation in which Barr has been trained his whole life to make that hit, so he made it. A kid coming up today may not make that hit if he makes it to the NFL. They’re being trained differently.

    The irony, though, is outstanding. The purples are STILL whining about New Orleans making unnecessary hits on Favre in 2009, but they want to have a parade for Barr.

  86. The thing that happened was a broken collarbone, which will require surgery and may end the season of the former MVP…..SO, LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT, lets say it was a non contact injury that happens a lot!. does McCarthy yell at the turf or the paint striping or what? he is gonna be exposed.. his o line is shot, and he has a bunch of no names on defense. live with it

  87. Legal or not, Barr takes that shot every time. All defensive players against all quarterbacks will take that shot every time… I wasn’t celebrating Rodgers injury until I read these ignorant posts from these garbage Packer fans. I hope your team doesn’t win another game. … the hit was perfectly legal btw

  88. If you think that was a dirty hit, you need to switch to soccer. He just hit the guy. Didn’t lead with his helmet, didn’t pick him up off his feet, didn’t drive him into the turf. He hit him, he landed on him. Stop whining.

  89. One thing the Packers will remember……this season is not over. If they aren’t involved in the playoff race at the end of the season, but the Vikings are and the game at Lambeau is crucial, well, I for one cannot wait.

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    seasons over for you sparky….go back to your bingo and let the big boys play football on sundays!!!

  90. Vikings fans and the rest of the NFL:

    Get ready for the *asterisk season of 2017-18.

    Because GB and their media loving cronies are all going to put an asterisk on the NFC north champion, NFC champion and the superbowl champion because Aaron Rodgers got hurt.

  91. gtodriver says:

    What dominance?

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    In this decade, the Packers are 11-4-1 against your Vikings, have gone to the playoffs EVERY year, AND won a Super Bowl.

    That dominance.

  92. stellarperformance says:
    October 17, 2017 at 7:15 am
    Knocking Rodgers out, intentionally, was the only play the Vikings had to unseat the Packers from their North Division dominance. The Vikings had a Pro-Bowl QB under center last year, a Vaunted Defense, a 5-0 start……and couldn’t get it done. Zimmers’ job is on the hot seat if they fail again this year, especially at the hand of Rodgers. Desperate teams do desperate things. Zimmer should have remained silent on this one. He knows. I didn’t have a feeling for the guy one way or the other……until now.

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    Someone get this guy a tissue please.

  93. 13worldchampioinships says:
    October 17, 2017 at 9:31 am
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    stellarperformance says:
    October 17, 2017 at 7:15 am
    Knocking Rodgers out, intentionally, was the only play the Vikings had to unseat the Packers from their North Division dominance. The Vikings had a Pro-Bowl QB under center last year, a Vaunted Defense, a 5-0 start……and couldn’t get it done. Zimmers’ job is on the hot seat if they fail again this year, especially at the hand of Rodgers. Desperate teams do desperate things. Zimmer should have remained silent on this one. He knows. I didn’t have a feeling for the guy one way or the other……until now.

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    What . a. Sally. The ONLY play to unseat the Packers? Vikes are up 3 games to 2 since 2015 on the Packers, and won the division two years ago. In those seasons, Keenum, Bridgewater, Cassell, Shaun Hill and Bradford were starters. So we’ve been able to sustain competition with 4 different quarterbacks. Keenum is now the 3rd quarterback to beat the Packers in two years. So stop trying to make this “oh that is the Vikings only play, to injure Rodgers.” If that were the case, you would have been seeing intentional dirty plays year in and out. But you don’t. Because it doesn’t happen. How does anyone know Barrs intent?

    And with last years 5-0 start, Packer fans wouldn’t allow injuries as an excuse for the team’s decline (i.e., 13 offensive linemen in one year). You can’t use injuries either. The truth came out that everybody else knew….Packers are nothing without Rodgers.

  94. Look, the vikings are going nowhere with Keenum this year. Yeah they might make the playoffs (because someone in NFCN has to?) and lose at home to New Orleans or maybe Dallas or the Eagles. And no, Teddy isn’t going to save the season, either.

    That being said, the Packers weren’t doing anything in the postseason either without home field advantage throughout. 4-5 losses even with Rodgers wouldn’t have got them that anyway. Add all the injuries elsewhere into the mix and they weren’t a real threat this year.

    So who’s it going to be in the NFC? I can tell you it isn’t going to be these two teams. Hundley might (won’t) go .500 the rest of the way and that’s not good enough. Yeah the vikings have a top ten defense, but you still need a quarterback in this league.

  95. Rodgers and McCarthy want to be able to play with the rules to their advantage (free plays because of defensive penalties). They want to be able to scramble for first downs or throw Hail Marys etc. They draw the line however when it comes to someone actually tackling Rodgers because you know….he’s Aaron Rodgers.

  96. Not dirty? Hmmm, this is the same Anthony Barr that had to be taken out because of a concussion later in the game? Gee, I wonder what happened? Could it be the helmet hit he laid on Davante Adams on the side line where he was flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct? Gee, I guess you guys would think that wasn’t dirty either. And if the coach says it won’t happen on his watch, well, who is anyone to question him. /end sarcasm

  97. How many times have I seen Aaron Rodgers run with the ball like that, do a pump fake, and then run for another 10-20 yards because a defender gave up on the play. This is Aaron Rodgers we are talking about here. He scrambles for big gains every week. As a defender he is taught to tackle a runner to the ground until the whistle is blown. That is what he did. Sucks that Rodgers put his arm out and broke his collarbone during the fall. But injuries like this happen in football. Would rather see a takedown like Barr’s then see a QB do the pump fake and run for a big gain. Just saying.

  98. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    October 17, 2017 at 9:58 am
    gtodriver says:

    What dominance?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    In this decade, the Packers are 11-4-1 against your Vikings, have gone to the playoffs EVERY year, AND won a Super Bowl.

    That dominance.

    ————————————
    Packer fans have had 26 years of HOF play at QB – in that time they won 2 Championships but talk like they are one of the greatest franchises in the history of sports. The only other organization to have this type of run at QB (without the some type of health the GB QB’s have had) was the 49ers who won 5 Championships in 21 years. The latter is Dominance, what you all have had is a good run that is nearing it’s end. I’d say you should use the rest of the year to get used to what life is like with out a HOF QB, good luck.

  99. fartweasel says:
    October 17, 2017 at 10:15 am

    Rodgers and McCarthy want to be able to play with the rules to their advantage (free plays because of defensive penalties). They want to be able to scramble for first downs or throw Hail Marys etc. They draw the line however when it comes to someone actually tackling Rodgers because you know….he’s Aaron Rodgers.
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    The Bears were penalized for 12 men on the field against the Vikings. I haven’t seen you crying about that anywhere.

  100. I’d start a winery if the grapes weren’t so sour. Watch the play at full speed, not slow-mo. This same play happens 25 times a weekend in the NFL. I expected some packer fans to be in meltdown mode on Sunday night, but not all the way into Tuesday.

    Those of you who are arguing that this is a dirty hit are embarrassing yourselves.

  101. billbrasky72 says:
    October 17, 2017 at 9:15 am
    For anyone saying the hit was late, look at the pic at the top of this very article. Rodgers still has the ball, Barr is inches away from him, and remember they are way out of the pocket and Barr is running at full speed. Explain to us how he is gonna let up.

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    Now watch it live and take note of the fact that the ball is in Bennett’s hands as Barr is making contact. The ball is 10-15 yards down the field.

    He took two steps, lowered the shoulder, and then finished the hit. It should have been called a late hit by the rules.

    Now I don’t think it’s dirty, it’s just how players are taught to finish. A guy like Rodgers has owned the vikings and you have to try and get some hits on the guy to get him off his rhythm. No different than what anyone does to Brady.

    I’m a packers fan, didn’t like the hit, but definitely don’t want anymore rules to soften the game. Rodgers is hurt, get your guy you’ve been grooming in the first team reps, and go win some games.

    I think football should have a “baseball” mentality which is, you throw at our guy, were throwing back. A cheap shot on your QB should put the other teams QB on notice that it’s coming. This would police it better than fines. A head coach would think twice about head hunting if he knows the other team will take the 15 yarder in response.

    For me it’s time for Mccarthy and Capers to earn their checks while Rodgers is out. I look forward to seeing if they can put some wins together. If not, then The GM and coaching staff should be making major changes or gone in the offseason. This is where it’s time for people to prove it’s not a one man show.

  102. What was dirty was how the Packers can’t build an offensive line to protect their QB. Hundley won’t last the remaining games. Rogers is magic in escaping defenders because his shabby offensive line can’t block, but Hundley is going to feel the full effect of blitz after blitz.

  103. Packer Nation, don’t be mad at Barr and the hit. Be mad your GM and coaching staff didn’t sign a serviceable backup. In this day and age no QB hardly ever plays 16 games. Aaron has carried this team on his shoulders for the better half of 4 years week in and week out. Rodgers is notorious for leaving the pocket and making big plays, Barr knows this. Some say he just should have pushed him, no you don’t because pulling up can injure yourself as well, pulled hamstring, quad etc.Plus Rodgers can hit from anywhere and drop 6 on ya.

    Packers fans have been spoiled for 20 some years in having a franchise QB in Favre and Rodgers, now in the face of adversity some in Packer Nation want to say the season is over. I once had a coach tell me you know how to win but you also need to learn how to lose. I’ve seen some very sore losers both in real life and in the internet world the past 48 hours.

    Now if Green Bay would have signed a serviceable back up, added some depth to their Offensive line, they wouldn’t be in such a pickle right now. So don’t blame Barr blame your GM and staff for not having foresight to have contingency plans if Rodgers went down. You had it too easy for some many years Packer Nation, welcome to the real NFL.

  104. Once again the media pushing for something because it fits their agenda. Not a late hit, give it up media!

  105. It’s about damn time somebody in the NFL completed a form tackle and not just some weak should check that ball carriers brush off. Barr performed a perfect tackle that we teach our kids from the time they put on the helmet and pads. Oh, Rodgers got injured? I almost forgot about that. What would people be saying if Rodgers did a pump fake and ran for 20 yards, like he does every single week? Barr watched the film and knew that he needed to complete the play against a very good QB.

  106. No, it wasn’t dirty, and even the reasonable Packer fans know that. It’s called tackle football! It was unfortunate, but not illegal or “unnecessary”. In fact when a scrambling QB leaves the pocket, it is very “necessary” to give him a good, LEGAL shot, to speed the clock up in his head and make him think twice about doing it again. There was absolutely nothing in that tackle that screamed “intent to injure”.

    And I have news for you Packer fans, that’s the way it’s going to be as long as Rodgers wants to try to extend plays by getting out of the pocket. Zimmer has been trying to solve the Rodger’s scrambling dilemma for years. If you noticed on the first series, Barr was spying Rodgers and tipped that first 3rd down pass that caused the 3 and out. On the play Rodgers got injured, Barr was again spying and chased him down as soon as he left the pocket. It was going to be a long day for Rodgers either way.

    I think Zimmer found something there. Rodgers may be able to outrun d-lineman, but he’s not going to outrun Barr or Kenricks. Hopefully, Rodgers is back in time for their December match-up. And if he is, he better stay in the pocket or get rid of the ball sooner or Barr is going to tune him up again.

  107. getadealdonealready says:
    October 17, 2017 at 10:20 am
    The Almighty Cabbage says:
    October 17, 2017 at 9:58 am
    gtodriver says:

    What dominance?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    In this decade, the Packers are 11-4-1 against your Vikings, have gone to the playoffs EVERY year, AND won a Super Bowl.

    That dominance.

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    Packer fans have had 26 years of HOF play at QB – in that time they won 2 Championships but talk like they are one of the greatest franchises in the history of sports. The only other organization to have this type of run at QB (without the some type of health the GB QB’s have had) was the 49ers who won 5 Championships in 21 years. The latter is Dominance, what you all have had is a good run that is nearing it’s end. I’d say you should use the rest of the year to get used to what life is like with out a HOF QB, good luck.

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    The Packers developed two HOF QBs in a row, your team can’t do that, so you whine. What happens if Hundley plays at an elite level as well? I’m not saying he will, but he finitely might. So then what? Are you going to whine about how the Packers “lucked into” THREE in a row? That would be perfect.

  108. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    October 17, 2017 at 10:25 am
    fartweasel says:
    October 17, 2017 at 10:15 am

    Rodgers and McCarthy want to be able to play with the rules to their advantage (free plays because of defensive penalties). They want to be able to scramble for first downs or throw Hail Marys etc. They draw the line however when it comes to someone actually tackling Rodgers because you know….he’s Aaron Rodgers.
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    The Bears were penalized for 12 men on the field against the Vikings. I haven’t seen you crying about that anywhere.
    //////
    That’s his point. You can’t have it both ways. Only like the rules that benefit you. Football is still football, at least for now. None of us were saying Bradford shouldn’t be hit because he’s hobbling. Well, Rodgers got hit too. And now, him and Bradford can talk about what the season could have been like if they had been playing.

  109. Right on the line for me.

    Won’t say dirty, don’t think there was intent.. but I was surprised a flag wasn’t thrown in this ‘don’t hit the QB’ era we’re in.

  110. skcrooged says:
    October 17, 2017 at 10:33 am
    Packer fans are great about living off the team’s past success. That is what they will be doing again this season. Cheers!

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    Well let’s talk about whatever team your a fan of and it’s past success.

    The only people that say things like that is because their team has little to none of their own. You don’t wear it well.

  111. conormacleod says:
    October 17, 2017 at 10:44 am
    The Almighty Cabbage says:
    October 17, 2017 at 10:25 am
    fartweasel says:
    October 17, 2017 at 10:15 am

    Rodgers and McCarthy want to be able to play with the rules to their advantage (free plays because of defensive penalties). They want to be able to scramble for first downs or throw Hail Marys etc. They draw the line however when it comes to someone actually tackling Rodgers because you know….he’s Aaron Rodgers.
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    The Bears were penalized for 12 men on the field against the Vikings. I haven’t seen you crying about that anywhere.
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    That’s his point. You can’t have it both ways. Only like the rules that benefit you. Football is still football, at least for now. None of us were saying Bradford shouldn’t be hit because he’s hobbling. Well, Rodgers got hit too. And now, him and Bradford can talk about what the season could have been like if they had been playing.

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    No, the point is, he was whining about defensive penalties, like all the rest of the purples; and I have not yet seen one whine about the one called in their favor vs the Bears.

    To hear you people tell it, if Zimmer had an ounce of honor, he wouldn’t have accepted such a “cheap” penalty.

  112. 1% of non Packer fans think Barr’s hit was dirty. 50% of Packer fans think it was dirty. Look, if even your own fan base can’t get a majority, you’re simply wrong. It was a perfect form tackle. If Rodgers pump fakes, it’s a quick sack. If he pump fakes and Barr lets up, Rodgers runs for a first down. Just another football play, that happens a lot every single game. This one just happen to hurt the QB. If it happens to 25 other teams QB’s, no one says a peep. But the Packer whine louder than any other team, so we have to hear it for another month.

  113. Of course there are the classless vikings trolls calling the Packers players soft.

    A viking fans viewpoint:

    Vikings have injuries: Our team is cursed to have these injuries, otherwise we would win the Superbowl.

    Packers have injuries: They are soft. This is karma. Suck it up, everyone has injuries. Erin should stop whining.

  114. To: The Almighty Cabbage-
    I don’t think anyone is worried about the Packers lucked into anything. The fact is, time is passing the Packers by. That’s right, 2 HOF quarterbacks and only 2 SB Trophies in 20 years. Pretty impressive, you should be pleased with that stat. No one is whining about their own team’s quarterback play, in fact I’ve enjoyed watching both Favre and Rodgers (two of the best all time)play football against my Bears. When we lose, it’s because we weren’t good enough.

    One thing we can all agree on is the double standard of the basic Packer fan. You’ve been spoiled. You’ve been the benefactor of not only lucky plays…but some pretty lucky calls. You have some pretty dirty players/play on your side as well. You’ve won a lot of games you shouldn’t have. All to your credit Packer fan. Now sit down and take it like a man. Or is that something never heard of in Packerland? Once you figure out how to do that, teach McCarthy and the rest of your brethren how that works. The only whining here is the mighty Packer fan talking about taking the hitting out of football and hoping that Hundley is the next HOF QB. Good luck with that.

  115. stellarperformance says:
    October 17, 2017 at 7:15 am
    Knocking Rodgers out, intentionally, was the only play the Vikings had to unseat the Packers from their North Division dominance. The Vikings had a Pro-Bowl QB under center last year, a Vaunted Defense, a 5-0 start……and couldn’t get it done. Zimmers’ job is on the hot seat if they fail again this year, especially at the hand of Rodgers. Desperate teams do desperate things. Zimmer should have remained silent on this one. He knows. I didn’t have a feeling for the guy one way or the other……until now.

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    Whatever dude. The Vikings have split with the packers for the past few years without knocking out Rogers. Get over it dude. The hit was clean. Rodgers runs around like a madman outside the pocket. The Vikings have dealt with more injuries in the past few years than almost all teams in the NFL. The Vikings lost their ENTIRE offensive Line last year, that’s why they fizzled after 5-0 start. Lets see Aaron Rodgers do any better. Yes it’s sad Rodgers is hurt. He is fun to watch, but maybe if the Packers actually drafted a decent defense, and deph at certain positions instead of “Score first ask questions later” approach. When you rely on one player that much you set yourself up for a big drop off when they get hurt.

  116. First, Packer fans don’t whine any more or less than any other fan base if a star player gets hurt. Second, McCarthy is doing what coaches do and defending his players. I’m willing to bet he personally doesn’t think it was a dirty hit but that’s the way the coaching business works. If it had happened to Keenum, Zimmer would be defending his guy in the same way. Rodgers is out and the Packer playoff hopes are shot. Barr should not be fined but probably will be. I’m actually kind of interested to see how Hundley works out after 3 years learning behind Rodgers. I also wonder why there has been no talk of the Packers pursuing Matt Flynn. Stunk everywhere else but always seemed to play well as a Packer. They have to get somebody because it seems too risky to go into a game with only 2 active quarterbacks on your roster.

  117. I saw the Pack in Minny a few years ago and the Packers absolutely and repeatedly thrashed Bridgewater before and after the whistle. No flags. It is amusing to see Carl and Stellar shedding tears over a legal hit on their elusive QB when he was already out of the pocket.

    Did he drive him into the ground? Sure. What would Matthews have done? That much or worse. If you can’t see that, you really do have green glasses on.

  118. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    In this decade, the Packers are 11-4-1 against your Vikings, have gone to the playoffs EVERY year, AND won a Super Bowl.

    That dominance.

    ———

    Why only go back 1 decade? Why not 2? 3? 5? Oh, because you’d have to acknowledge that the Vikings have won the NFC north/central more than your Packers which puts your “dominance” argument to shame.

    It was a clean hit, and the fact that non viking, non packer fans agree on that is more than enough evidence to that fact. Not to mention the Packer fans that can even acknowledge it was a clean hit.

    If you make it so Qbs can’t get hit, they can’t pump fake or leave the pocket either then and then your “star” players won’t be stars. Immobile Players with accurate passing would replace the magician like players like Rodgers. You gotta take the good with the bad.

  119. stellarperformance says:
    October 17, 2017 at 7:03 am

    “Ball is thrown……start counting…1-1000, 2-1000, …….one step…..two steps……Rodgers’ running speed declines…..Barrs’ running speed increases……lowers his head…..drills Rodgers…….STOP. That’s where it should have ended. But…….

    ……holds him in his grasp……continues driving his feet…… lifts him up…… drills him into the ground while maintaining contact……accomplishes his intent to hurt or harm unnecessarily. That’s was his intent. No mistaking.

    ________________________________

    I am surprised that you did not also conclude that Barr purposely extended Rodgers’ arm so that he would fall on it.

    By the way, Barr was running from about 10 yards away, and the idea that he sped up when Rodgers threw the ball is simply nonsense.

    Had Clay Matthews put the same hit on Case Keenum, you would be defending it as a clean hit, and noting that even if it was not, Keenum deserved it anyway because he is a Viking.

  120. Packers have injuries: They are soft. This is karma. Suck it up, everyone has injuries. Erin should stop whining.

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    finally a Packer fan who see’s what everyone else knows!!!

  121. Well the whining the Packers always do obviously comes from the top down. The head coach can’t teach tackling, but sure can teach his squad to whine and cry about a legal, quality tackle by the opposing squad. Very pathetic…

  122. It was NOT a dirty hit. Guys like Barr are traveling at a speed of 10 yds/sec. As Rodgers rolled out Barr was 15 yards away, and then came flying up to take away the run and apply pressure. Rodgers saw him the whole way and hung onto it as long as possible – cause he’s normally good enough to make something out of nothing. It was a bang-bang play. Rodgers probably only gets the wind knocked out of him if he doesn’t awkwardly put his arm down to break his fall. Barr didn’t drive him down into the turf. He landed on him as he flew over. He ended up a few yards away after each were down. The guys (like D-linemen) that drive down are the ones that put all their weight into it straight down and end up on top after the play is over.

  123. It was very obvious that Barr’s intent was to hurt Rodgers, but it is football and that’s part of the game. Sadistic Viking fans are taking great enjoyment of seeing other team’s players get hurt but that is who they are. Unless Zimmer can take out every team’s quarterback they are not going anywhere.

  124. Clean hit. No one should be complaining. This stuff happens. The idea that he “drove” Rodgers into the ground is ridiculous. He could have hit him much harder. In fact he rolls off of him before his full weight hits Rodgers. You can easily see that in slow motion. No compression, just a bad landing on his throwing arm/shoulder.

    Definition on a bad break.

  125. Had Rodgers not been injured, no one would have even looked at that play. You cannot call a play “dirty” because someone happened to get injured, when you wouldn’t call it dirty if there were no injury. Rodgers has made a living moving and throwing outside the pocket, and shaking off tackles and making big plays. A defense cannot just assume he will go down with a touch or a shove.

    Otherwise, give the QBs red training camp jerseys and they are considered down as soon as they are touched.

  126. There is a sideline view that shows the ball has passed Barr. In my judgement, Barr’s head is still up, and he can clearly see Rodgers has released before Barr lowers his head and starts the full on tackle. That said, everything he does is within the rules. It looks like unnecessary roughness, but it doesn’t quite fit the rule definition – launching (forward and upward) into a player “just after the act of throwing a pass.” Within the rules doesn’t mean the rules are OK.

    Maybe the rule should include something like “intentionally and unnecessarily following through the complete process of tackling a defenseless player, while denying them opportunity to re-establish their own protection.”

    Hate Rodgers was hurt, he makes the game more fun to watch.

  127. Barr’s hit was no different than what Vikings fans have seen from Clay a few times in the past. Either those hits were clean or dirty. Fact. Oh the hippocracy of Vikings fans….

  128. Barr is a beast. If he had wanted to hurt Rogers with the shot he had at him, they would be cleaning Rogers up with a rake. Nobody ever tickled the quarterback to the ground.

  129. Barr is as dirty as they come… could have just pushed Rodgers like all other pass rushers do when the ball is released and they cant pull up. Then two minutes later he is headbutting Adams out of bounds after the play is over. Adams was just two weeks removed from a hospital trip for a concussion. Dude is dirty… and Karma will catch up to him.

  130. stellarperformance says:
    October 17, 2017 at 7:03 am
    “Ball is thrown……start counting…1-1000, 2-1000, …….one step…..two steps……Rodgers’ running speed declines…..Barrs’ running speed increases……lowers his head…..drills Rodgers…….STOP. That’s where it should have ended. But…….

    ……holds him in his grasp……continues driving his feet…… lifts him up…… drills him into the ground while maintaining contact……accomplishes his intent to hurt or harm unnecessarily. That’s was his intent. No mistaking.

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    DING DING DING DING, we have a winner!!!

    Dumbest comment of the week.

    Barr has blazing speed, probably still runs 4.5 40s with pads. He was only about 3.5 – 4 yards away when the ball left Rodger’s hand. It took him probably about .5 seconds to hit him afterwards. Your typically idiotic statement would have him about 15 – 17 yards away to take 2 seconds to hit him.

    He never lifted him up, he ran through him like all good tacklers have mastered. He didn’t “drill” him to the ground, he fell on top of him because that’s what happens when you tackle correctly. Barr’s feet don’t leave the ground until they both fall to the ground.

    I’ve always thought blue whales had the largest babies on the Earth, we all now know the Packers, in their fans, have the largest babies on Earth.

  131. bjbroderick says:
    October 17, 2017 at 8:17 am
    One fan base thinks it was dirty. 31 other fan bases say quit crying.

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    When it’s in the nature of that one organization, it’s going to be the nature of that one fanbase.

  132. thecatalinawinemixer says:

    October 17, 2017 at 10:08 am

    Look, the vikings are going nowhere with Keenum this year. Yeah they might make the playoffs (because someone in NFCN has to?) and lose at home to New Orleans or maybe Dallas or the Eagles. And no, Teddy isn’t going to save the season, either.

    That being said, the Packers weren’t doing anything in the postseason either without home field advantage throughout. 4-5 losses even with Rodgers wouldn’t have got them that anyway. Add all the injuries elsewhere into the mix and they weren’t a real threat this year.

    So who’s it going to be in the NFC? I can tell you it isn’t going to be these two teams. Hundley might (won’t) go .500 the rest of the way and that’s not good enough. Yeah the vikings have a top ten defense, but you still need a quarterback in this league.

    ———

    How do we know Kneenum won’t do good this year? Are you a fortune cookie. Keenum has done well. The Vikings roster is built to grind out victories with sub par QB play. Keenum has played above average. Go ahead and count the Vikings out.

  133. This is just a good football play. As a defender if you get a chance to hit the QB and discourage him from scrambling, you take it. Aaron could’ve thrown that away but instead he went for the pass and opened himself up to a hit. Tough. So sick of hearing about how they need to protect QBs. The QBs can protect themselves by throwing it away instead of rolling out and trying to extend every play.

    People are sad because this wrecks the GB season? MN lost Teddy, Bradford, and they are down to their third QB. They are without their number one RB for the second year in a row and Diggs was out that game. How come they can overcome all of this and GB can’t?

  134. I’m OK with the Packers and Hundley and losing Rodgers. It happens. I’m not complaining or whining or making excuses. I’m a big proponent of Next Man Up, and that includes quarterbacks. The hit was not unlike many you see every week.

    There are dirty and unnecessary hits every week.

  135. cribbage12 says:
    October 17, 2017 at 11:59 am
    Barr’s hit was no different than what Vikings fans have seen from Clay a few times in the past. Either those hits were clean or dirty. Fact. Oh the hippocracy of Vikings fans….

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    You mean when Clay throws a blind crack back on a QB after an INT, or when he dives at the QB and hits him 2 yds out of bounds, or when he dives at the back of the QB’s knees, or when he constantly hits with the crown of his helmet? Yeah, I see what you consider clean for Packers and dirty for everybody else.

  136. skyflyer63 says:
    October 17, 2017 at 12:03 pm

    Barr is as dirty as they come… could have just pushed Rodgers like all other pass rushers do when the ball is released and they cant pull up. Then two minutes later he is headbutting Adams out of bounds after the play is over. Adams was just two weeks removed from a hospital trip for a concussion. Dude is dirty… and Karma will catch up to him.
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    I can’t keep track of all this karma.

    Wasn’t the Rodgers hit karma for the time Clay Matthews broke Hoyer’s arm?

  137. stellarperformance says:
    October 17, 2017 at 12:22 pm

    There are dirty and unnecessary hits every week.

    **********************************************************

    By Clay Matthews. The only person he can catch anymore is a QB with his guard down.

  138. It was a message hit; we’re not going to let you run around and beat us making plays out of the pocket. Clean. Physical, but clean at every level down to Pee Wee football. McCarthy is a sore loser and that’s too bad, ‘cause he’s one of the better coaches, IMO. The karma, btw, is unbelievable. Play on!

  139. Apparently some people don’t know how to fall correctly.

    When I was in airborne school, about 70-80% of our instructional time was spent on falling correctly. (Gravity and parachute design takes care of everything else). Injuries occur because of how people land.

    Barr “driving” him into the ground is, first, nonsense and second immaterial. Rodgers got hurt because he stuck his hand out onto the ground to break his fall. You do not do this. You stick your army out and land on the meaty parts of your upper body which are the lats and the back of the shoulder. Had Rodgers done this his worse case scenario would have been a dislocated shoulder, and that’s unlikely.

    But he stuck his arm out and the pressure of the fall was too much on the collar bone and broke it. Period. His fault for not falling correctly.

  140. I appalled at all the “What would Clay Matthews have done” comments. First of all, Clay doesn’t have as many sacks in two years as Griffen has this year, and doesn’t have as many sacks in the last three years that Hunter had last year. So, it’s clear Clay can’t even get to the QB, to hit him on time or late. Although, while being blocked out of a play last Sunday, he did get lucky and have the ball bounce several yards and right up into his belly. So, I guess that’s why he’s worth $12 mil a year.

  141. Satanic Hell Creature says:
    October 17, 2017 at 12:09 pm

    When it’s in the nature of that one organization, it’s going to be the nature of that one fanbase.

    \\\\\\\\\\\\\\

    Thanks for pointing out what’s been obvious about the vikings for years….

  142. conormacleod says:
    October 17, 2017 at 1:10 pm
    I appalled at all the “What would Clay Matthews have done” comments. First of all, Clay doesn’t have as many sacks in two years as Griffen has this year, and doesn’t have as many sacks in the last three years that Hunter had last year. So, it’s clear Clay can’t even get to the QB, to hit him on time or late. Although, while being blocked out of a play last Sunday, he did get lucky and have the ball bounce several yards and right up into his belly. So, I guess that’s why he’s worth $12 mil a year.

    \\\\\\\\\\\\\\

    Exactly.

    Dude looks like he can’t run anymore, much less get a big hit on someone.

    Time to cut some hair off and lighten the load.

    Packer fan….

  143. stellarperformance says:
    October 17, 2017 at 7:03 am

    “Ball is thrown……start counting…1-1000, 2-1000, …….one step…..two steps……Rodgers’ running speed declines…..Barrs’ running speed increases……lowers his head…..drills Rodgers…….STOP. That’s where it should have ended. But…….

    ……holds him in his grasp……continues driving his feet…… lifts him up…… drills him into the ground while maintaining contact……accomplishes his intent to hurt or harm unnecessarily. That’s was his intent. No mistaking.

    Momentum my ass. Legal? Assuredly. Dirty? Without a doubt.

    One thing the Packers will remember……this season is not over. If they aren’t involved in the playoff race at the end of the season, but the Vikings are and the game at Lambeau is crucial, well, I for one cannot wait.
    __________

    Congratulations! You have officially passed Gerbschmidt as the most nonsensical Packer fan on PFT. At least somebody associated with the Packers will get a trophy this year.

  144. When this happens to other mobile QBs, its justified oh he is a runner should stay in a pocket. Didnt Ray lewis say whenever he gets a chance to lay a hit on a running qb, he does and the hits add up through the game.

  145. Vikings fan and I’m siding with the minority that the hit was unnecessary. Barr, while coming at full speed, could see Rodgers had clearly released the ball yet he followed through at full speed and took Rodgers to the ground, with force – as if Rodgers still had possession of the ball. Barr could have pulled up and either shove Rodgers or grab him and ride him upright several steps toward the sideline. I was surprised Barr was not flagged for a late hit, unnecessary roughness or roughing the passer. I will be further surprised if he is not fined.

    That said, the tackle itself was clean and Rodgers’ awkward landing was mostly to blame for his unfortunate injury. But it all could have been avoided. If you want to label it dirty, you could question Barr’s intent, as he never let up, despite the pass clearly being released beforehand. But I will agree with others that these types of plays happen often as part of the game – it’s an aggressive, violent sport and asking these guys to always let up at the proper time is impossible. I feel bad for Rodgers and the Packers but it’s football and it happens.

    If Clay Matthews had taken down Case Keenum in the same way, resulting in Keenum’s season-ending injury, of course I would be upset but would remind myself – it’s football and it happens.

    Someone referred to the photo of Barr and Rodgers at the top as the play in question but I believe it’s different, possibly taken at last year’s (night?) game…Barr is behind Rodgers in the photo while in Sunday’s (day) game Barr comes from upfield and to the side, not behind.

  146. McCarthy has no problem with #52 out there not just this game but ever. After Rodgers left the game. Fabio hit Keenum twice late in the pocket and pinned him to the ground. Did McCarthy think those hits were dirty? Nope. Very hollow words McCarthy.

  147. It was a dirty hit.

    Barr drove him into the ground with more force than necessary to make a secure tackle.

    Rodgers ventured outside the Pocket and he paid the price, but Barr did not have to drive him into the ground like that.

  148. 1-1000, 2-1000? Really? If you want to use this as the criterion for a dirty hit, you need to take the replay out of slow motion….

  149. howsaboutit says:
    October 17, 2017 at 6:59 am

    His intent was to hurt Rodgers and that is all there is to it.
    ))))))))))))))))))))))0
    You are amazing, you tell a man’s intentions from sitting on your couch. Absurd.
    Hundley played with Barr in college knows Barr. He said Barr isn’t a dirty player.

  150. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    In this decade, the Packers are 11-4-1 against your Vikings.
    ))))))))))))))))
    Since you cherry picked I will do the same. In the last 4 games with the packers. The Vikings are 3-1.

  151. Zimmer is right. McCarthy is just upset because the only reason he’s still a head coach in this league is now sidelined for the year

  152. packer fans and McCarthy aren’t used to seeing tackling. So when they see another team tackle they think it is dirty.

  153. It amuses me how many comments say ‘it wasn’t dirty but it was unnecessary.’

    When, precisely, did the point of playing football become to NOT hit the opponent?

    I’d guess a lot of the posters here played ball, maybe just through high school like me, but you did. From the first time you step on the field as a little kid you’re taught to hit and to take a hit. If you can’t, go play soccer.

    Every defense is coached every week to hit the QB as much as possible within the rules (which Barr’s hit was). Shake up the QB, make him think about getting hit, rattle him.

    Rodgers should know that, rather than expect to be treated like a special case. He’s a coddled player on one of the NFL’s pet franchises. He apparently believes he’s supposed to be treated with awe and reverence, rather than being one of 22 on the field all of whom are risking debilitating injury as much as he is.

    McCarthy is a sub-standard blowhard of a coach who’s had the unspeakably tremendous good fortune of spending his entire head-coaching career going from one first ballot HOF QB to another. He’s mustered one title in a dozen years as a sixth seed against a mediocre group of contenders. Compared to his peers, he’s done less with more. Of course he’s grumpy. He’s about to be exposed for the non-entity he is.

  154. It wasn’t illegal but it doesn’t mean it wasn’t dirty – a few plays later #55 is headbutting Devante Adams – Barr was looking for a fight and the Vikings knew they stood little chance of beating the Packers with Rodgers in the game, so he didn’t pull up, but could have. Dirty pool – and Zimmer is a hypocrite, listen to him about hits Teddy took early on and he’s crying on about didn’t like this hit, didn’t like that hit. Hypocrite, dirty team trying to cover weaknesses by taking players out.If you can’t play coach clean or play clean there should be consequences – no flag for driving player into the ground. No flag for head butting player – #vikingsaredirty can’t win clean

  155. I’ll take complaints from McCarthy and Pack, it really changed their season. Nothing illegal about the play, but it’s football they get to complain.
    I do not care if Rodgers is the best player in football (not true, count Brady’s rings, then count Rodgers), he’s not bigger than the NFL. After reading and listening to sports writers and personalities over the last two days you swear their child just got murdered!! The thing they seem to live for is to heap as much praise on Rodgers as possible (it looked like an undisclosed contest in the sports media to see who could praise Rodgers the most and longest). Then…the worst idea started gaining momentum, ” change the rules for Aaron Rodgers”! I didn’t cheer his injury (I’m a 6th gen. Minnesotan, and raised correctly) but after the sports media response, I’m certainly cheering not having to read or hear the media bloviate like buffoons about Rodgers for the rest of the season.

  156. Nobody except despondent Packers fans, players and coaches thought that hit was illegal or dirty. Those type of hits happen every game, every week, every season and are not flagged, nor should they be. Even Mike Pereira and Dean Blandino agreed it was a clean hit, just one that resulted in an injury.

    If you want to make a rule to prevent that type of injury, then the rule should be that QBs can’t brace their fall with their hand- because that is likely what caused the collarbone to break – and QBs get trained on that as well.

  157. I sure am enjoying this. Not Rodgers getting hurt but all the Green Bay fans crying fantasies and every other fan base pointing their fingers and laughing at them. Keep it up Packer boo hoo hooers! I am sure those mean Vikings are sorry for you.

    btw, where have anyone seen McCarthy eat a grape?

  158. There was an official standing right there staring at Rodgers when Barr hit him. That coupled with the FACT that Rodgers gets more calls than most QB’s in this league should be an indicator of “unnecessary” the hit was. No flag. No Fine. It’s called football, and nobody outside of Packerland has any sympathy. Except some fantasy owners and certain Sports media personalities that think the rest of the season should be cancelled because Aaron Rodgers is hurt. Next.

  159. When, precisely, did the point of playing football become to NOT hit the opponent?
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    I’d say 2001, when Belichick grounded the Greatest Show on Turf.

  160. aarons444 says:
    October 17, 2017 at 3:08 pm
    When, precisely, did the point of playing football become to NOT hit the opponent?
    =====

    I’d say 2001, when Belichick grounded the Greatest Show on Turf.
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    No, it was the AFC title game Patriots vs Colts in 2004. After that game, Bill Polian took it upon himself to ruin football so his Colts could win a title.

  161. *paraphrasing* “Keenum is great, blah blah, count out the vikings if you want, blah blah.”

    Um, yes, I am absolutely counting out the vikings solely because of Case Keenum. When you have to go to your backup qb in this league, you’re done, plain and simple. Just no. You’re done. Very very few times would a team even make the super bowl, but Keenum is no Kurt Warner, and McKinnon is no Faulk. Keenum is also not Tom Brady taking over for Bledsoe. So what is that, twice in the past 20 years? Not bad, what, 10%? But there’s a reason Keenum is on his 5th team in as many years. I will say Minnesota’s defense is top ten, but it’s not good enough to win on their own.

    I realize trying to make a valid point does nothing with you delusional clowns, but it’s my favorite thing to watch you get riled up about a game. Just take a step back and say it with me: Case Keenum. See what I mean? Just doesn’t sound right. You know why? Because it isn’t. But have fun the rest of your games, getting jacked for a game when come mid-January (for your sake I hope it gets that far) it won’t matter anyway. Because by the looks of the posts on this board, you guys already won your super bowl. Hey, congrats!

  162. “I realize trying to make a valid point does nothing with you delusional clowns”

    Wotsa matta, Aesop; the grapes a bit sour?

  163. i am basking in the tears these last few days. and im enjoying the rest of the league being able to see how delusional packer fans are- well those who already didnt know they were delusional. now even more people can point at you and laugh.

    but my biggest disappointment will be no superb, extraordinary playoff choke. so ill have make it up by watching them go 4-12 instead.

  164. I guess since Packer fans are used to seeing a facemask penalty called when a defender touches Rodgers’ shoulder, they would certainly expect a typical clean hit of a quarterback running out of the pocket to result in a personal foul and a large fine.

  165. No, little lebowski, no grapes here. If you could read and comprehend (am I assuming too much?), you’d know that I am not a fan of either team. I posted earlier how BOTH the packers and vikings were doing nothing this year regardless. I was just too lazy to reference it; I knew it wouldn’t matter. Turned out I was right. Also turns out there are more than just packer and viking fans on this site. You all are just the ones that are so easy to play.

    It’s great to know that you care though 😉 Thanks, chief.

  166. Even if it was a dirty hit what would happen? Barr would get fined and maybe suspended. The Packers will not be awarded the victory or get any special attention going forward.
    The one thing we have learned from that game is that there are still a few refs that are not Packer fans.

  167. bjbroderick says:
    October 17, 2017 at 8:17 am
    One fan base thinks it was dirty. 31 other fan bases say quit crying
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    So you’re saying the majority is wrong here?

  168. Brett Favre would have picked himself up, slapped Barr on the helmet with a smile and said nice hit kid. And probably punch the ball downfield on the Vikings. Now the whiners break when you touch them and the head coach cries about a clean hit and the QB uses foul language in front of the cameras. I remember when the cheesers fans and team were fun to play against and not just a bunch of Sally’s.

  169. Hit was just like the ones that broke Romo’s collar bones. Those weren’t dirty, just like this one wasn’t. Bottom line, Aaron didn’t fall on it the right way. It’s a shame but just how it worked out. Pack nation is so upset because they know they can’t do it without him. I think Rodgers is better than Brady…Probably the best QB to play the game and I don’t like the guy at all.

  170. usdcoyotesfan says:
    October 17, 2017 at 7:11 pm
    bjbroderick says:
    October 17, 2017 at 8:17 am
    One fan base thinks it was dirty. 31 other fan bases say quit crying
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    So you’re saying the majority is wrong here?

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    I think we can safely say you have no clue what “majority” means.

  171. The Heard had a good take on this. He listed off the QB that have gotten hurt all of them while running out of the pocket. Brady, Manning, stay in the pocket, get the extra protection in the rules by not making themselves runners, and don’t get hurt. Don’t want to have a risk of getting hurt, stay in the pocket or take up badmitten.

  172. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    October 17, 2017 at 10:44 am

    The Packers developed two HOF QBs in a row, your team can’t do that, so you whine. What happens if Hundley plays at an elite level as well? I’m not saying he will, but he finitely might. So then what? Are you going to whine about how the Packers “lucked into” THREE in a row? That would be perfect.

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    Please enlighten us all, when you say “packers” which of the many fired coaches who worked with Farve, helped develop Rodgers. I could see your argument if they had one or two people who taught the same things working in the organization with the QB’s the entire time, but you are saying the mystic of the packers is so great that QB’s just magically turn in to hall of famers the minute the come to your team and just spend a little time there? Was it McCarthy the 1 year with Farve, then all he did for Rodgers? I see he turned the likes of Grbac, Bono, Aaron Brooks, the bad version of Alex Smith in to HOF material in the time he spent with them.

    Look at the bright side, Since Hundley has been in the system for 3 years, then he is a lock for HOF, and your team will still be the favorite to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl, so good luck to you and your squad.

  173. Gotta love all the idiots who bash on Rodgers for being able to catch defenses offsides or 12 men on the field. Love him or hate him, it’s part of the game, and his ability to do that every week is remarkable.

  174. It was a textbook, clean tackle. Not too high, not too low, not too late, and he was out of the pocket.

    If Barr lets up and it was a pump fake? He had to follow through.

    Rodgers made it worse by trying to break his fall with his arm… that’s what popped the collarbone.

  175. Illegal? No. Dirty? No. Unnecessarily rough? Absolutely. Barr could have slowed up a bit, and didn’t need to leave his feet. No doubt he saw the ball was gone but decided to continue at full speed and deliver a pile-driver. It’s a split-second fine line.

    Should have drawn an unnecessary roughness call, 15 yard penalty. Tough luck, Rodgers out, end of story.

    I’m a Packer fan, and that’s how I see it.

  176. McCarthy is a sub-standard blowhard of a coach who’s had the unspeakably tremendous good fortune of spending his entire head-coaching career going from one first ballot HOF QB to another. He’s mustered one title in a dozen years as a sixth seed against a mediocre group of contenders. Compared to his peers, he’s done less with more. Of course he’s grumpy. He’s about to be exposed for the non-entity he is.
    ======

    So sad that is all so true.

  177. Mike McCarthy should watch the tape of EVERY game GB has played against Seattle since ’14. EVERY one of those games, Mathews has hit Wilson in the head while either while he was sliding or after he had released the ball. 5 games, 5 dirty hits. Wilson didn’t get up and scream at him and cuss him out on National TV. He got up, went to the sideline, got looked at, and went back to work. I don’t particularly like Rodgers or GB, but their fans used to actually be very pleasant until this season. It’s football, it was a clean hit by a criminally underrated LB. Rodgers was out of the pocket, and Barr was doing his job not falling for the pump. Perfectly legal, perfectly clean, not cheap or dirty in the least, just an unfortunate outcome. Rodgers has become the biggest crybaby in the league, even worse now than Tom Cry-Brady.

  178. Typical Vikes answer. Barr should have gotten personal foul, then ejected a few plays later when he actually got called for one. That would’ve spared him a concussion.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if there is talk about expanding qb protection rules. As usual, Green Bay is always the ones who take it for the rest of the league. You’re welcome.

  179. Bucs fans aren’t whining for 4 days because their QB got hurt. Jameis was hit very similar to how Rodgers got hit. Not one fan of the Bucs said it was illegal, it was dirty. It was in the scope of the rules of the game but unnecessary. The Bucs fans didn’t say he didn’t have to drive him into the ground. Nothing because they understand football.
    packer fans are just salty because they know their football season has now changed and so must their expectations. The packer fans also know the Saints look good right now. With that the chances of winning Sunday don’t look so good.

  180. Check out clay mathews highlight real on you tube… half his hits are driving the qb into the ground many of times after the ball has left the qbs hand… Mccarthy is a hypocrite…. should be plenty of cheese to go with that whine coming out of greenbay

  181. whiny packer fans are trying to have it both ways. “It wasn’t dirty but it wasn’t necessary”. No, please the NFL has told you it wasn’t a dirty hit. The majority of the NFL fans have told you it wasn’t a dirty hit. So now you whiny packer coaches and fans are going with – well it wasn’t necessary. Just stop talking, nobody wanted Rodgers hurt. But when you play tackle football those things happen sometimes.4 days later still whining. Enough, enough.

  182. Aaron Rodgers threw the ball when Barr was 6 feet away from Rodgers.

    That didn’t stop Barr from launching himself head first into Rodgers, then landing on him with all his body weight.

    Barr could have held up, but he didn’t. If he wasn’t intending to take Rodgers to the ground as hard as possible, then he wouldn’t have done it. So it easily can be argued the hit was dirty.

  183. This is rich coming from a team whose 2nd biggest star is Clay Matthews. The guy show speared Colin Kapernick a full 8 feet out of bounds and who straitjacked tackled and drove Kevin Kolb into the ground head first …

  184. stellarperformance says:
    October 17, 2017 at 7:03 am
    “Ball is thrown……start counting…1-1000, 2-1000, …….one step…..two steps……Rodgers’ running speed declines…..Barrs’ running speed increases……lowers his head…..drills Rodgers…….STOP. That’s where it should have ended. But…….
    ……holds him in his grasp……continues driving his feet…… lifts him up…… drills him into the ground while maintaining contact……accomplishes his intent to hurt or harm unnecessarily. That’s was his intent. No mistaking.
    Momentum my ass. Legal? Assuredly. Dirty? Without a doubt.
    One thing the Packers will remember……this season is not over. If they aren’t involved in the playoff race at the end of the season, but the Vikings are and the game at Lambeau is crucial, well, I for one cannot wait.

    bridgeh2o says:

    You are joking right? Barr had to make a SPLIT SECOND decision to hit Rodgers, legally, because Rodgers is OUT OF THE POCKET. If Rodgers had pumped fake, as he does do, then Barr could have missed him.

    How about this: if Rodgers promises to never run out of the pocket and never pump fake again, then maybe he won’t get LEGALLY hit like this in the future.

    Sorry your season is over-get a better defense!!!!!

    Oh, and a new QB!!!!!!

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