Week Six power rankings

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1. Chiefs (5-1; No. 1): They lost but they’re still No. 1? Welcome to 2017, when it’s impossible to figure out who really is/isn’t the “best” team in football.

2. Eagles (5-1; No. 5): Carson Wentz needs to avoid contact, or the Eagles won’t be able to avoid having to play multiple games without him.

3. Patriots (4-2; No. 7): If the churning continues among the top teams in the AFC, the door will be open for the Patriots to seize the No. 1 seed.

4. Steelers (4-2; No. 12): They won a game they were supposed to lose? They’ll eventually make up for that by losing a game they’re supposed to win.

5. Panthers (4-2; No. 4): The defense needs Luke Kuechly; the offense needs better play-calling in the clutch.

6. Seahawks (3-2; No. 13): How does a team jump seven spots without playing a game? First, be the Seahawks. Second, watch a cluster of teams in front of you prove they were overrated.

7. Vikings (4-2; No. 15): Case Keenum quietly is becoming a keeper for the Vikings.

8. Washington (3-2; No. 11): Monday night’s date with the Eagles could be a midseason division-title elimination game for Washington.

9. Rams (4-2; No. 16): Yes, they could be 6-0. But after 4-12 in 2016, 4-2 looks pretty good.

10. Bills (3-2; No. 10): Rex Ryan vowed to end the playoff drought in his first year with the team. Sean McDermott may be the one to get it done.

11. Dolphins (3-2; No. 23): Last year, an unlikely win over the Steelers provided the spark. This year, an even more unlikely win over the defending NFC champions could be the trigger.

12. Falcons (3-2; No. 3): As anyone who ever had a hangover knows, saying “I don’t have a hangover” is no way to cure a hangover.

13. Texans (3-3; No. 14): A year after hosting the Super Bowl, the Texans could indeed be playing in it.

14. Broncos (3-2; No. 6): There’s no excuse for coming out of a bye and blowing it against a bad team.

15. Saints (3-2; No. 21): What may be last year of the Drew Brees/Sean Payton marriage could be a memorable one.

16. Lions (3-3; No. 8): With Aaron Rodgers out, the door is open for the Lions to take the division. If they can win a few games.

17. Titans (3-3; No. 19): Marcus Mariota with a bad hamstring may be even better than Marcus Mariota with two good ones.

18. Jaguars (3-3; No. 9): This team goes back and forth faster than a fat kid on a low swing.

19. Cowboys (2-3; No. 17): With or without Ezekiel Elliott, it feels like it’s not their year.

20. Packers (4-2; No. 2): For a team that relies so much on Aaron Rodgers, losing him and stubbornly insisting on “next man up” guarantees that they’ll be the first team out in the NFC North.

21. Jets (3-3; No. 20): For the first time in recent history, the league office made a decision that helps the Patriots and hurts the Jets.

22. Cardinals (3-3; No. 26): Yo. Adrian.

23. Chargers (2-4; No. 27): After winning two games on the road, the Chargers will be better prepared for their road games at home.

24. Bengals (2-3; No. 25): This team has plenty of work to do, if it wants to lose another playoff game.

25. Raiders (2-4; No. 18): If the losses continue, the Black Hole will literally be a black hole.

26. Buccaneers (2-3; No. 22): It’s good that Dirk Koetter works for a patient ownership group that isn’t inclined to make rash changes based on unfulfilled expectations.

27. Bears (2-4; No. 29): With a halfback pass for a touchdown, Tarik Cohen instantly became the second best quarterback on the roster.

28. Ravens (3-3; No. 24): So when does Greg Roman get to run the offense and wish he had Kaepernick instead of Flacco to work with?

29. Colts (2-4; No. 28): If they can stay within striking distance of first place in the division when Andrew Luck returns, this could get interesting.

30. Giants (1-5; No. 32): Giants 2017 a/k/a At Least We Had That Sunday Night Win in Denver.

31. 49ers (0-6; No. 30): C.J. Beathard would be a lot cheaper over the next few years than Kirk Cousins.

32. Browns (0-6; No. 31): The Browns are two losses away from a “bye” week. And from a Sunday when they won’t play a game.

135 responses to “Week Six power rankings

  1. The drop from #2 to #20 for the Packers seems to be as much about losing Rodgers as punishment that they didn’t sign the QB some expected them to.

  2. They won a game they were supposed to lose? They’ll eventually make up for that by losing a game they’re supposed to win.
    ___________

    They already did to Chicago and Jax, hopefully it doesn’t continue!

  3. The Steeler DEFENSE beat the Chiefs. Big Ben hung a sweet, sweet, 17 points and was one extremely lucky bounce from another pick 6 and a 20-12 loss.

    As always if the Steeler defense gives up 20 points it is a surefire, slam dunk, done deal, loss for the Steelers. That’s just how good Big Ben is.

  4. 20. Packers (4-2; No. 2): For a team that relies so much on Aaron Rodgers, losing him and stubbornly insisting on “next man up” guarantees that they’ll be the first team out in the NFC North.

    ——

    Because that’s what happened to them last time…..oh wait. They still won the division.

  5. I agree with the rankings particularly with number one and number two. As an Eagles fan I would love to be ranked number one, but since the Chiefs beat us I think you have to put them first. This Monday night will be huge for the Eagles. I’ll be at the game. I might not *remember* being at the game, but I’ll be there.

  6. 5. Panthers (4-2; No. 4): The defense needs Luke Kuechly; the offense needs better play-calling in the clutch.

    Thank you. Not just better play-calling in the clutch, but the entire game. The fact that Mike Shula still has a job is ridiculous. Every first down is a run up the middle by Stewart. If the Panthers want to get over the hump, Shula needs to go.

  7. I don’t know which I enjoy more; the Packers hopes and dreams getting crushed by losing one player, or the insanity of a few of their fans still thinking they will win the division.

    If they end up 7-9 this season I will be quite surprised.

  8. schmokes says:
    October 17, 2017 at 11:23 am
    20. Packers (4-2; No. 2): For a team that relies so much on Aaron Rodgers, losing him and stubbornly insisting on “next man up” guarantees that they’ll be the first team out in the NFC North.

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    Because that’s what happened to them last time…..oh wait. They still won the division.
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    Wait, you think they will go 2-4-1 again without Rodgers, AND that will be enough to win the division? Please, tell us why you believe that will happen. Because your backup QB looked good in preseason? BTW: With that O-line, Hundley is not going to last the season either.

  9. losing him and stubbornly insisting on “next man up” guarantees that they’ll be the first team out in the NFC North.
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    At least your political feelings aren’t spilling over into your work. We have no idea what Brett Hundley is capable of yet and the last time Arod went down we still made the playoffs, with Seneca Wallace and Matt Flynn. Maybe we should actually see Hundley in a game he’s prepped for before pronouncing them out of contention.

  10. Not used to seeing so many teams ranked ahead of the Ravens, but they deserve to be where they are. Time to rebuild the offense.

  11. Still don’t know how the Chiefs played so bad for 3.5 quarters and still had a chance to win. Alex played his worst game and Gaines blows it even when the ball is literally in his hands with a chance to win/change the game entirely. Also, stop putting Justin Houston in coverage… you were playing a guy coming off 5 interceptions and you relax the pressure? You get paid how many millions to make those decisions?

    The league seems off this year, it’s like there some distraction to the actual football games or something…

  12. “For a team that relies so much on Aaron Rodgers, losing him and stubbornly insisting on “next man up” guarantees that they’ll be the first team out in the NFC North”.

    Your CK agenda is evident in just about everything you write. Give it a rest.

  13. Just ranking the Dolphins over the Saints who just shut them out a couple of weeks ago throws any credibility these rankings could have out the window.

  14. Packers (4-2; No. 2): For a team that relies so much on Aaron Rodgers, losing him and stubbornly insisting on “next man up” guarantees that they’ll be the first team out in the NFC North.
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    This seems to assume that the Packers don’t really believe in Brent Hundley, and only included him on the roster as an afterthought. Why don’t you give Hundley a chance to get a full week of practice in before passing judgment on this decision? Oh that’s right, because you believe Colin Kaepernick could come in tomorrow and start practicing and do a better job than Hundley!

    My guess is Hundley acquits himself well after a week of practice, and settles into the starter role better than you’re willing to give him credit for now. As for the Packers being the first team out in the NFC North, you’ll be eating those words for Thanksgiving.

    – from a Viking fan.

  15. I don’t know which I enjoy more; the Packers hopes and dreams getting crushed by losing one player
    ——
    Setting aside the fact that this statement makes you a petty person, I have to wonder just how much you’re paying attention. One player? ESPN just listed us as the most injured team in the league with three starters in the secondary going down, 3 o lineman, 3 linebackers, starting RB, and our qb. One player. Lol. Literally 50% of our starting team is hurt right now.

  16. Packers will be 4-12 at the end of the season. If Rodgers comes back they might win 1 or 2 more. Only biased Packers think it was a dirty hit. Im fine with it either way.

  17. Green Bay trains a QB for 3 years for this moment and Florio insists that a street FA would do better. At this point, the dead horse is reduced to a bloody pulp.

  18. Packer fans have been reminding us that they won the division in 2013 even though Rodgers missed 8 games that year. What they always fail to acknowledge, however, are the facts that (a) their team was terrible without him (2-5-1), and (b) every other team in the division was terrible that year. 8-7-1 isn’t going to win the division this year.

    Bless their hearts, they really believe that the rest of their team represents a requisite NFL roster. I guess now we’ll find out how good Thompson and McCarthy really are.

  19. citizenstrange says:
    October 17, 2017 at 11:22 am
    The Steeler DEFENSE beat the Chiefs. Big Ben hung a sweet, sweet, 17 points and was one extremely lucky bounce from another pick 6 and a 20-12 loss.

    As always if the Steeler defense gives up 20 points it is a surefire, slam dunk, done deal, loss for the Steelers. That’s just how good Big Ben is.

    If by lucky bounce instead of another pick 6 you mean the Brown TD reception, you would be wrong. Even if it was picked off, his momentum was carrying him out of bounds. If you are talking about he first pick, if Brown ran the right route, he ball wouldn’t have been picked off. It’s the Pittsburgh Steelers, not the Pittsburgh Bens. Penalties and poor play calling did stop several drives, the whole offense is struggling not just Ben. They are moving the ball, they are killing the clock, they are winning…not much more can be said. Do you think the team would be 4-2 with Dobbs or Jones in there? Jones showed he can’t handle it and Dobbs isn’t ready yet. Tell me, what free agent QBs in recent years have been available that was a better option than Ben? Drafting QBs is a crap shoot, they have had other, bigger glaring needs than a back up because the window was and still is open.

  20. pkrlvr says:
    October 17, 2017 at 11:43 am

    One player? ESPN just listed us as the most injured team in the league with three starters in the secondary going down, 3 o lineman, 3 linebackers, starting RB, and our qb. One player. Lol. Literally 50% of our starting team is hurt right now.
    _________

    And last year the Vikings, Packers, and Bears were ranked by ESPN as the most injured teams in the league. All we’ve heard from you since then is how poorly managed the Vikings and Bears are and how much depth the Packers have. So here’s your big chance, lets’s see it.

  21. Pretty much everyone was minimizing the Vikings beating the Saints week 1, stating the Saints were pretty bad. I didn’t watch the game, but simply looking at the score makes you scratch your head. 52 against the Lions?

  22. As a Packers fan I like where you have them ranked. No pressure. But to think they are out of it without Hundley starting a single game yet is ludicrous. I look forward to seeing his growth and the team rally around him.

    If this team can go 6-4, granted a big if, they’re in the playoffs. And then, just maybe, Rodgers can make it back for a playoff run. GoPackGo!!!

  23. mattyork1972 yes the Dolphins are ranked higher than the Saints/
    You obviously have no clue about their first 4 weeks of the season.
    Barely home in Florida, and now no bye week. They showed up in Atlanta
    Sunday, after finally being home for a week!!! Just not been a very satisfactory
    way of starting the season, flying all over the place.

  24. pkrlvr says:
    October 17, 2017 at 11:43 am
    I don’t know which I enjoy more; the Packers hopes and dreams getting crushed by losing one player
    ——
    Setting aside the fact that this statement makes you a petty person, I have to wonder just how much you’re paying attention. One player? ESPN just listed us as the most injured team in the league with three starters in the secondary going down, 3 o lineman, 3 linebackers, starting RB, and our qb. One player. Lol. Literally 50% of our starting team is hurt right now.

    **
    And the VIkes burned through 13 O-linemen last year, starting RB and several other players. We weren’t able to use that as an excuse and neither can you.

  25. Man Viking fans really enjoy kicking people when they’re down. That dirty behaviour translates right over to their LB core apparently.

  26. And the VIkes burned through 13 O-linemen last year, starting RB and several other players. We weren’t able to use that as an excuse and neither can you.
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    Holy revisionist history. That’s all we heard about as soon as the slump started last year. Months of Viking fans whining about injuries. You must not have been here. And what excuse am I making? We have every right to feel dejected with so many injured. Not sure what that is an excuse for though?

  27. If Hundly goes 6-4 or better this year, you should trade Arod for a bounty of 1st Rd picks and use the extra $ saved to build up the rest of the roster so you don’t have to be fully reliant upon 1 player!

    Arod only has 3-4 years left in him and Hundley would get a bounty of offers from other teams at the end of the season in that scenario.

  28. pkrlvr says:
    October 17, 2017 at 11:43 am
    I don’t know which I enjoy more; the Packers hopes and dreams getting crushed by losing one player
    ——
    Setting aside the fact that this statement makes you a petty person, I have to wonder just how much you’re paying attention. One player? ESPN just listed us as the most injured team in the league with three starters in the secondary going down, 3 o lineman, 3 linebackers, starting RB, and our qb. One player. Lol. Literally 50% of our starting team is hurt right now.
    ——
    Like it even matters. Rodgers turns that turd of a team into a modest contender. 4-12 is in your future.

  29. How do you rank Oakland ahead of Baltimore? Granted Ravens sucked last week, but they just shellacked the Raiders last week…and Emanuel played better than Carr so none of that excuse

  30. Do you even watch the games when you make this list?? The Saints beat the Dolphins by 20 (yet are ranked below them) have won three in a row by an average of 19 points per game, have dominated your Number 5 team Carolina (winning by 23 on the road) and only lost to your numbers 3 and 7 (New England and Minnesota). Like everyone else, you guys are “sleeping” on the Saints. And by the way, what exactly has Atlanta done to be above New Orleans? They ain’t passing the eye test, losing to Miami and almost losing to Detroit and Chicago.

  31. Bless their hearts, they really believe that the rest of their team represents a requisite NFL roster. I guess now we’ll find out how good Thompson and McCarthy really are.
    =====

    I think we’ll learn more about Dom Capers.

    I’m not sure anyone has gotten more traction out of 20 year-old accomplishments.

    Whoever coined this guy a genius hasn’t been watching the last 15 years.

  32. pkrlvr says:
    October 17, 2017 at 11:58 am
    Man Viking fans really enjoy kicking people when they’re down. That dirty behaviour translates right over to their LB core apparently……………….

    No one cares that the Packers are down except the Packers. Join the rest of the league that have lost excellent players for the season. No one feels sorry for those teams, nor should they feel bad for the Packers

  33. .
    The Patriots next four :

    Atlanta
    Chargers
    @Denver
    @Raiders (Mexico City)

    Whether they’re pretenders or contenders should be apparent after these 4 are played.
    .

  34. pkrlvr says:
    October 17, 2017 at 11:58 am
    Man Viking fans really enjoy kicking people when they’re down. That dirty behaviour translates right over to their LB core apparently.
    //////
    Hey, tell us about your championships from the 1930’s again…deflecting from today would be good for you.

  35. It sucks being a Chargers fan 90% of the time. But man oh man, back to back wins on the road over the trash Giants and the Raiders makes this season a little easier to struggle through.

  36. Based on their ability to win against any team right now, the Saints are actually rated in the top 5. It’s taking awhile for some members of the football media to notice the obvious.

  37. fwippel says:
    October 17, 2017 at 11:43 am
    Packers (4-2; No. 2): For a team that relies so much on Aaron Rodgers, losing him and stubbornly insisting on “next man up” guarantees that they’ll be the first team out in the NFC North.
    =========================================================================
    This seems to assume that the Packers don’t really believe in Brent Hundley, and only included him on the roster as an afterthought. Why don’t you give Hundley a chance to get a full week of practice in before passing judgment on this decision?
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    Because it’s called WEEK 6 POWER RANKINGS, not week 7 power rankings.

    Right now, all we know about Hundley is that, against a starting defense, he can produce 10 points when given the ball twice in field goal range, and he can throw 3 INT’s, more if the Vikings secondary could catch the ball. That’s it. There is no other evidence against an actual NFL defense that exists. And that’s not even addressing the fact that the Packers have no O-line and no real RB.

    The division was going to be close if Rodgers played the whole season. I don’t even believe Hundley is going to last the whole season.

  38. Holy revisionist history. That’s all we heard about as soon as the slump started last year. Months of Viking fans whining about injuries. You must not have been here. And what excuse am I making? We have every right to feel dejected with so many injured. Not sure what that is an excuse for though?…

    Did you feel bad for the Vikings last year?. Every team is dejected when they lose good players. The Vikings are without their starting QB, running back, best wide receiver a guard and a safety.

    So making this a national disaster expecting other teams to buy into it? Nope

  39. cribbage12 says:
    October 17, 2017 at 11:55 am

    If this team can go 6-4, granted a big if, they’re in the playoffs. And then, just maybe, Rodgers can make it back for a playoff run. GoPackGo!!!
    ///////
    If the Packers end up 10-6 this year, I absolutely dump Rodgers next year and take that $25 mil and buy a defense. Because 10-6 and a first round playoff loss is what Rodgers has been doing the past 7 years. Your team is a perfect example that you need a team to win a championship, not just a great QB.

  40. pkrlvr says:
    October 17, 2017 at 11:43 am
    I don’t know which I enjoy more; the Packers hopes and dreams getting crushed by losing one player
    ——
    Setting aside the fact that this statement makes you a petty person, I have to wonder just how much you’re paying attention. One player? ESPN just listed us as the most injured team in the league with three starters in the secondary going down, 3 o lineman, 3 linebackers, starting RB, and our qb. One player. Lol. Literally 50% of our starting team is hurt right now.
    ///////
    Literally everybody here is laughing about you whining about injuries. I won’t even address it, as all of last year proves your hypocrisy.

    Now, am I really a “petty person”? No. I’m actually an outstanding individual. You can ask my family! I just dislike your team, your city, your fan base, your coaches, and everything right down to your uniforms. I root for two things every NFL season. For the Vikings to win, and for your team to lose. Nothing personal. Just football.

  41. ESPN just listed us as the most injured team in the league with three starters in the secondary going down, 3 o lineman, 3 linebackers, starting RB, and our qb. One player. Lol. Literally 50% of our starting team is hurt right now…

    Again, no one cares but the Packers. If TT had prepared the team for something like this instead of signing free agent JAGS and missing on draft picks, Hundley could probably keep the team afloat. The Saints will lay 40 on this defense if Hundley can’t move the ball…

  42. Well spoken Mike Florio… 10. Bills (3-2; No. 10): Rex Ryan vowed to end the playoff drought in his first year with the team. Sean McDermott may be the one to get it done.

  43. bobthebillsfan says:
    October 17, 2017 at 12:38 pm
    I think the Steelers would squash the Patriots.
    __________________________________________________
    Absolutely.

  44. Although the playoffs are out of reach, Andrew Luck will be back in time to lead the Colts to the Rose Bowl….mark my words….

  45. Barr just sent the packers back to the dark ages of 1968-1991 when they were the Browns of the nfl. packer fans seem to forget those 25 years when they talk about their “rich history”

  46. pkrlvr says:
    October 17, 2017 at 11:36 am

    At least your political feelings aren’t spilling over into your work. We have no idea what Brett Hundley is capable of yet and the last time Arod went down we still made the playoffs, with Seneca Wallace and Matt Flynn. Maybe we should actually see Hundley in a game he’s prepped for before pronouncing them out of contention.
    ____________________________________________________________

    If he’s any good he would have been prepared for that game, because the scenario that played out is literally the entire reason his job exists in the first place.

    Unprepared or not, he threw 3 picks. You will have to pardon us for not being very confident in his ability to win a competitive division.

  47. Packers are “stubbornly insisting on next man up” ?? …. as if it’s wrong for a team to actually use its intended backup QB… I guess every team should just carry one QB on its roster from now on and whenever that guy is hurt, they would just pick the best available free-agent every time. Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, don’t worry about the lack of practice time or familiarity. Just plug him in and watch him go.

    Let’s also eliminate QBs from the draft, because only a small number of teams are looking for starters for Week 1. So any team looking for a QB can just bid on the free agents and the QBs coming out of college. Starters only, though! You are not allowed to have a backup that you actually would want to use as a QB someday. That is just absurd and potentially racist!

  48. Packer fan here. Until they prove otherwise, somewhere around 25 is fair. When Rodgers went out in 2013, they were 2-5-1 without him, 2-6-1 if you count the Bears game that he was injured in. And why wouldn’t you? They were ahead 3-0 and lost when he didn’t come back into the game. They only played one team with a final winning record those 8 games, and the Eagles were 4-5 at the time. Hundley might turn out to be good, but has never shown anything in a real game. If McCarthy can’t have him ready after 3 years, why will one week make that much difference? Also, when Rodgers went down in 2013, the defense gave up. The already-bad Capers defense became much worse.

    Hopefully I’m wrong and Hundley does well. There’s always hope, even the Vikings are finding ways to win, and somebody has to win the division. Packers will need to go at least 5-5, which seems unlikely. Even if Hundley is above average but not great, it will result in a losing record. This is a 12-4 team with the GOAT, and probably 2-14 without him. They likely would’ve won that MN game with him, and had no chance without him.
    Yes, reality bites, but humiliation will be good for us. At least it’s not 57 years of it.

  49. Packers have an unproven quarterback and little chance for the playoffs. How are Packers fans supposed to go on? Maybe Vikings and Bears fans can give them some advice after decades of experience.

  50. It’s hilarious reading these packer fans posts. Florio and every other writer on this site strokes the ego of the packer organization every chance they get. As soon as they state the obvious, they are all over him. Packer fans are good, cheap entertainment.

  51. Just ranking the Dolphins over the Saints who just shut them out a couple of weeks ago throws any credibility these rankings could have out the window.
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    Saw how high the Dolphins jumped and knew something like this would come up. Dolphins have to have get some leeway on the offense getting going. Jay Cutler joined the team 2 months ago. The Defense is good. These ratings may not be as skewed as you think

  52. The Ravens are right where they should be until they prove otherwise,but I still think that they can right the ship. Letting Greg Roman take over at OC would help. Picking up Colin Kaepernick would not.

  53. Packers have an unproven quarterback and little chance for the playoffs. How are Packers fans supposed to go on? Maybe Vikings and Bears fans can give them some advice after decades of experience….

    Wake up on Sunday and hope for the best…There is the advice…

  54. pkrlvr says:

    October 17, 2017 at 11:58 am

    Man Viking fans really enjoy kicking people when they’re down. That dirty behaviour translates right over to their LB core apparently.

    UMM, clay Mathews is on the Vikings?

  55. All I know is that the Steelers made the Chiefs look like #32. Pretty stupid Steelers are below them.

  56. “How does a team jump seven spots without playing a game? First, be the Seahawks. Second, watch a cluster of teams in front of you prove they were overrated.”

    While we all spent the weekend saying that the Seahawks have been overrated for the last five years…

  57. conormacleod says:
    October 17, 2017 at 12:28 pm
    cribbage12 says:
    October 17, 2017 at 11:55 am

    If this team can go 6-4, granted a big if, they’re in the playoffs. And then, just maybe, Rodgers can make it back for a playoff run. GoPackGo!!!
    ///////
    If the Packers end up 10-6 this year, I absolutely dump Rodgers next year and take that $25 mil and buy a defense. Because 10-6 and a first round playoff loss is what Rodgers has been doing the past 7 years. Your team is a perfect example that you need a team to win a championship, not just a great QB.

    //////////

    You’re confusing your other favorite team’s playoff experience with the Pack. GB has been to NFCCG twice recently and won it all in 2010. Although with no titles and so few playoff games I can see why.

  58. Well, the NFL claims to love parity, so a muddled mass of teams without any real standouts must make the league execs quite happy

  59. Meh, 2 or 20, I don’t care. Is’t easier being the underdog than the favorite. The less expectations, the better.

    But bank on this – The NFC North will be decided on Dec 31st when the Bears/Vikings play and the Packers/Lions both square off at Noon. I’m not predicting a winner of the division, but it ain’t no gimme for any team either.

  60. It’s good to see the Barneys celebrating last weekends Super Bowl win and rolling into this week with such jubilant exhilaration.
    They truly rarely get an opportunity to experience such joy in their lives.
    Revel in it. Enjoy it. Hold on to it like grim death.
    Because it’ll be a fleeting feeling, I can assure you.
    Just very relieved after finding out that the PFT Power Rankings have no real bearing on the NFL playoff race.
    skoLOL!!!

  61. If the Packers end up 10-6 this year, I absolutely dump Rodgers next year and take that $25 mil and buy a defense. Because 10-6 and a first round playoff loss is what Rodgers has been doing the past 7 years. Your team is a perfect example that you need a team to win a championship, not just a great QB.
    =====

    2011 – started 13-0, best statistical year for a QB ever, top 5 offense all-time.. Capers wet the bed
    2012 – 11-5.. Divisional Round.. Kaepernick racked up 444 yards of offense, BY HIMSELF..
    2013 – Rodgers was injured and missed half the year, 8-7-1
    2014 – The infamous NFCC Game implosion.. 19-7 lead with 5:13 to go.. Pack had a 99.9% win probability
    2015 – Nelson out, offense struggled
    2016 – Horrendous defense late in the year, 27 ppg in their final 6 games, including Playoffs

    I agree, Green Bay should have a better team.

    Conversely, the above is the testament of Rodgers greatness. How many QBs can you name that can carry a team with so much else falling apart around them? Even the talent on offense isn’t what it was 7 years ago. But there’s Rodgers, playing like an MVP every week….

  62. “[TEAM A] is ranked lower than the [TEAM B]. [TEAM A] shut [TEAM B] out a couple weeks ago. Come on lets be serious”

    —————

    Morons. Head-to-head provides only one piece of information and not even the most vital piece. More important is how the two teams being compared stack up against the other 30 teams in the league.

  63. Green Bay – Rodgers = Cleveland Browns.

    Plus, I love reading all the comments from the #32 spot, which is where my beloved Browns belong… again…

    *sigh*

  64. ” … a muddled mass of teams without any real standouts must make the league execs quite happy,,,”

    Absolutely. As I watch the Pats struggle to stop anyone, let Brady get shellacked, and commit stupid penalties over and over this year, it’s hard to watch. But every game has been exciting, even if I mean it in a bad way for me.

    Right now it certainly seems as if any team could beat another ‘any given Sunday’.

  65. The person that posts that the power rankings are his favorite post of the week, suddenly goes from the first person to leave a comment last week to totally disappearing this week. What changed???

  66. In Teddy We Trust says:
    October 17, 2017 at 11:50 am
    Packer fans have been reminding us that they won the division in 2013 even though Rodgers missed 8 games that year. What they always fail to acknowledge, however, are the facts that (a) their team was terrible without him (2-5-1), and (b) every other team in the division was terrible that year. 8-7-1 isn’t going to win the division this year.

    Bless their hearts, they really believe that the rest of their team represents a requisite NFL roster. I guess now we’ll find out how good Thompson and McCarthy really are.

    \\\\\\\\\\

    There you go thinking that this is a good division…

    Whoever said Minny, Chicago, or Detroit were great this year?

    It wasn’t Chicago or Detroit fans.

  67. wafflestomp says:
    October 17, 2017 at 1:48 pm
    It’s good to see the Barneys celebrating last weekends Super Bowl win and rolling into this week with such jubilant exhilaration.
    They truly rarely get an opportunity to experience such joy in their lives.
    Revel in it. Enjoy it. Hold on to it like grim death.
    Because it’ll be a fleeting feeling, I can assure you.
    Just very relieved after finding out that the PFT Power Rankings have no real bearing on the NFL playoff race.
    skoLOL!!

    ________________

    But you sure seem to have a lot of emotion wrapped-up in the PFT Power Rankings. skoLOL,LOL,LOL.

  68. floriosnuts says:
    October 17, 2017 at 12:36 pm

    Flaco’s gotta be in the conversation for worst QB to ever win a SuperBowl right. He’s damn near the top in my Book.
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    If you want to consider the entire body of work. If you look at the playoffs and super bowl, he was lights out. In fact, Joe Flacco’s playoff TD:INT is 25:10 in 15 games. His QBR is 88.2, but thats SEVERELY held down by his first 2 years with 5 games of QBRs of 59.1, 89.4, 18.2, 10.0 and 48.4. The next 10 games his QBR avg is 104.7, and the year they won the Super Bowl his QBR is 118.5. Thats phenomenal. He’s obviously fallen off, but so has their entire offense. Peyton and Brady win with anyone. No one ever argued that Flacco was Peyton or Brady or Brees. But when Playoff Joe showed up, you had as good a chance as any to win the game with him.

  69. The packers were barely winning games even with Rogers. Stop it with all of this nonsense talk of maybe 5-5. They won’t win another game… unless they had Kaepernick in which case they would be ranked #2 again lol

  70. aarons444 says:
    October 17, 2017 at 2:04 pm

    Conversely, the above is the testament of Rodgers greatness. How many QBs can you name that can carry a team with so much else falling apart around them? Even the talent on offense isn’t what it was 7 years ago. But there’s Rodgers, playing like an MVP every week….

    ————-

    Remember when they had James Jones, Donald Driver, Randall Cobb, Jordy Nelson, Greg Jennings and Jermichael Finlay? Thats a hell of a skill position corps. That helps a QB out a LOT compared to who they had last year.

  71. conormacleod says:
    October 17, 2017 at 12:28 pm
    Because 10-6 and a first round playoff loss is what Rodgers has been doing the past 7 years.
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    I’m not a Packers fan but that statement is preposterous. The Packers have had two one n dones in the last 7 years and one was to a team that went on to win the Super Bowl.

    2010) 10-6 Won Super Bowl
    2011) 15-1 Lost Div Round
    2012) 11-5 Won WC Round, Lost Div Round
    2013) 8-7-1 Lost WC Round
    2014) 12-4 Won Div Round, Lost NFCCG
    2015) 10-6 Won WC Round, Lost Div Round
    2016) 10-6 Won WC Round, Won Div Round, Lost NFCCG

  72. “it’s impossible to figure out who really is/isn’t the “best” team in football.”

    – but we do know it isn’t my Chiefs, who were dominated by PITT, in KC. Old nightmares revisited/not a good look for the perennial ‘wait till next year’ cast ours since 1970.

    Truth be, there is no/will be no #1 because all 32 teams are tragically flawed pretenders reality. They call it ‘parity’, this poorest, watered-down bereft of greatness era in the history of pro football (nothing compares to pre-merger 1970 in terms quality, been going downhill ever since.)

    What ‘will’ determine what also-ran in 2017 is #1 end of season, not so much next man up as last team standing, nod attrition due the plethora injuries. Today’s soft NFL and its ‘softies’ wouldn’t have lasted a single game back in the rock em sock em 1960’s.

  73. Make all the excuses you want, Rodgers is the common denominator in the Packers failures. Inability to win the big game. An intangible that makes Brady the GOAT. Rodgers will just be remembered as a great passer that put up big numbers. But didn’t win enough. Like Marino

  74. Bluestree says:
    October 17, 2017 at 12:07 pm

    The Purps at 7 with Case Keenum? Lol!

    _______________

    It’s called depth. It’s what well run organizations have.

    Then you have the Packers.

  75. rogcar2 says:
    October 17, 2017 at 2:27 pm
    Green Bay – Rodgers = Cleveland Browns.

    Plus, I love reading all the comments from the #32 spot, which is where my beloved Browns belong… again…

    *sigh*
    ————————–
    Gotta give you props for visiting a football blog. Given how terrible the Browns have been for the last…well, forever..this could be a form of S&M.

  76. It’s hard to argue the rankings with all of the parity this year. I believe much of the parity is due to inconsistent ref’s. Oh and Colin Kap is the answer to anyone’s whoah’s. Maybe New England should sign Cap to play defense for them?

  77. 20. Packers (4-2; No. 2): For a team that relies so much on Aaron Rodgers, losing him and stubbornly insisting on “next man up” guarantees that they’ll be the first team out in the NFC North.
    ———————————————————————————————————If they’ll be the first team out, then why do you have the Bears ranked seven spots behind them?

  78. 4. Steelers (4-2; No. 12): They won a game they were supposed to lose? They’ll eventually make up for that by losing a game they’re supposed to win.
    ———————-
    That should read games, with an (S), they’re supposed to win. Chicago and the Jags.

  79. tedmurph says:
    October 17, 2017 at 3:25 pm
    Make all the excuses you want, Rodgers is the common denominator in the Packers failures. Inability to win the big game. An intangible that makes Brady the GOAT. Rodgers will just be remembered as a great passer that put up big numbers. But didn’t win enough. Like Marino
    _____________________________________

    You’re confused and potentially a moron. I don’t know for sure but most probably.

    Rodgers is the common denominator in all their wins. The awful, awful defense is the reason the fold early. The last two playoff losses in OT, Rodgers had to drive the field to tie the game (remember his Hail Mary against the Cardinals). Dom Capers and McCarty and Thompson are the problem with that team. Rodgers is arguably the best Qb to ever put on pads. And Dan Marino also made very bad teams look good.
    Brady has played with such a lousy team that they have gone 14 and 5 without him… C’mon man, use that thing between your ears for more than nonsense.

  80. Love how you set up the steelers losing to the Bengals as something you expect…fact is, the Bengals have one of the best defenses in the league. The offense is starting to hit its stride. The AFC is wide open and after this week, I think you will have to move them out of the mid-20s.

  81. Am I the only one that sees it, or are the Cheeseheads on this site acting like tantrum ridden toddlers on their bellies, banging their fists on the floor?

  82. Morons. Head-to-head provides only one piece of information and not even the most vital piece. More important is how the two teams being compared stack up against the other 30 teams in the league.
    ______________________________________________________________________________________________Dumbest comment of the day. As in the case of the Saints/Dolphins, the Saints not only dominated them on a neutral field (20-0), but have the same win percentage. Try that logic when it comes to playoff tie-breakers and see how far that will get you….

  83. M’boy Marcus (Mariota) hung in the pocket a la (Tom) Brady and orchestrated the offense to a victory. Marcus, man, you’re like “NEO”: you don’t need to run anymore!

  84. bobthebillsfan says:

    I think the Steelers would squash the Patriots.
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    Every year Steelers fans talk about how much talent their team has and how they’re going to beat the Pats on their way to the SB and every year Pats fans laugh at them after the game.

  85. bigdaddyrockytop says:
    October 17, 2017 at 4:06 pm

    I dont know baffles me more, Vikings fans sheer joy at a rival player going down or the delusion they will do anything in the playoffs if the even make it.

    ÷÷÷÷÷

    I guess you didn’t follow the NFL back when a Packer defender caused AP’s ACL injury. Packer fans were elated about that one. What comes around, goes around.

  86. dohczeppelin says:
    October 17, 2017 at 12:55 pm

    If he’s any good he would have been prepared for that game, because the scenario that played out is literally the entire reason his job exists in the first place.
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    So your saying that 1st team practice reps don’t mean anything at all? Do you work for the NFLPA by any chance?

  87. mnvikes1961 says:
    October 17, 2017 at 3:05 pm

    wafflestomp says:
    October 17, 2017 at 1:48 pm
    It’s good to see the Barneys celebrating last weekends Super Bowl win and rolling into this week with such jubilant exhilaration.
    They truly rarely get an opportunity to experience such joy in their lives.
    Revel in it. Enjoy it. Hold on to it like grim death.
    Because it’ll be a fleeting feeling, I can assure you.
    Just very relieved after finding out that the PFT Power Rankings have no real bearing on the NFL playoff race.
    skoLOL!!

    ________________

    But you sure seem to have a lot of emotion wrapped-up in the PFT Power Rankings. skoLOL,LOL,LOL.
    ————————–
    I do? Where?
    Please, show me a post.
    Show me any post, one single post I’ve ever made about this silly PFT Power Ranking meaning anything.

    Week in and week out, year after year, I’ve ridiculed this meaningless exercise in nothingness.
    I’ve also teased every simpleminded fan’s overreaction to it.
    By simpleminded, I’m pointing at you, Barney fan, and the goofy way you guys always put so much weight into it.
    The anger and foot stomping you so often do at Green Bay’s ranking compared to your own team.
    It’s hilarious, and I do enjoy it every week, even as the pendulum swings back the other way.

    I’ve said it before and it’s always worth noting, the Minnesota Vikings have the most ignorant fan base in the NFL, and it isn’t even close.
    And you’re right it is worth a skoLOL, LOL,LOL!

  88. Lemmy Aksyadis says:
    October 17, 2017 at 1:12 pm
    NE may be #3, but it doesn’t feel that way watching them.
    ============================================
    My thoughts exactly. Been weird watching the Pats struggle so mightily to play defense. A lot of good things to cling to but some worrisome ones as well. Still early though, just have to keep fighting and winning games and hopefully figure out the defense come playoff time.

  89. Confused moron? In 2011 Brady took the Pats to the S BOWL with the #31 ranked D. 2009 GB loses the WC gm@home with the#7 ranked D. 2012 GB loses with the#11 D. 2014 GB loses with the #13 D. 2015 lost with the#15 D.The only gms Rodgers ha pulled out is with Hail Mary’s. Unlike Brady, who does it all the time. Somene is a confused moron, but it’s not me

  90. The Falcons at 3-2 could easily be 1-4 as they have not played well in four of those games.

    It is a very different team to watch this year compared to last year’s team. The crispness of that formidable offense is gone. Dropped passes and pass deflections leading to interceptions have become prevalent.

    Could we be seeing a repeat of what Carolina did the year after their super bowl appearance?

  91. Gotta love the purples. The Packers are about 5 spots too low, and the purples are still whining and crying that GB is too high.

  92. Confused moron? In 2011 Brady took the Pats to the S BOWL with the #31 ranked D. 2009 GB loses the WC gm@home with the#7 ranked D. 2012 GB loses with the#11 D. 2014 GB loses with the #13 D. 2015 lost with the#15 D.The only gms Rodgers ha pulled out is with Hail Mary’s. Unlike Brady, who does it all the time. Somene is a confused moron, but it’s not me
    ———————————————————————————
    2009 GB loses the WC game on the road when the D gives up 51 pts. 2012 GB loses when the D gives up 45 pts. 2014 GB loses on a fumbled onside kick. 2015 GB loses after a series of missed tackles in OT

  93. Tbrady: 25-9 postseason record. 5 SBowl wins
    JMontana: 16-7 4 SBowl wins.
    ====================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================

    PManning: 14-13 2-1 in SBowls
    JFlacco: 10-5 1 SB win

    Aaron Rodgers: 10-7 postseason 1 SBowl win

    Not good enough for a ‘supposedly’ great player.

  94. The Packers should be in the 20s right now due to injuries. They just aren’t healthy. All their OLine injuries and defensive injuries make them a lot worse than they would normally be.

    Tony Romo recently pointed out that they could have one of the top defenses in the NFL if they can get healthy. A healthy defense, a healthy offensive line, a 1-2 punch at running back and average play out of Brett Hundley has the potential to carry this 4-2 team to a playoff birth.

  95. wafflestomp says:
    October 17, 2017 at 5:10 pm
    mnvikes1961 says:
    October 17, 2017 at 3:05 pm

    wafflestomp says:
    October 17, 2017 at 1:48 pm
    It’s good to see the Barneys celebrating last weekends Super Bowl win and rolling into this week with such jubilant exhilaration.
    They truly rarely get an opportunity to experience such joy in their lives.
    Revel in it. Enjoy it. Hold on to it like grim death.
    Because it’ll be a fleeting feeling, I can assure you.
    Just very relieved after finding out that the PFT Power Rankings have no real bearing on the NFL playoff race.
    skoLOL!!

    ________________

    But you sure seem to have a lot of emotion wrapped-up in the PFT Power Rankings. skoLOL,LOL,LOL.
    ————————–
    I do? Where?
    Please, show me a post.
    Show me any post, one single post I’ve ever made about this silly PFT Power Ranking meaning anything.

    Week in and week out, year after year, I’ve ridiculed this meaningless exercise in nothingness.
    I’ve also teased every simpleminded fan’s overreaction to it.
    By simpleminded, I’m pointing at you, Barney fan, and the goofy way you guys always put so much weight into it.
    The anger and foot stomping you so often do at Green Bay’s ranking compared to your own team.
    It’s hilarious, and I do enjoy it every week, even as the pendulum swings back the other way.

    I’ve said it before and it’s always worth noting, the Minnesota Vikings have the most ignorant fan base in the NFL, and it isn’t even close.
    And you’re right it is worth a skoLOL, LOL,LOL!

    _____________

    Two perfect examples right here. But of course you’d be the last to see it. Try not being so angry.

  96. mnvikes1961, hmmm……….I find it interesting you’ve chosen not to post any of my comments displaying how emotionally wrapped up I am in Power Rankings.
    Or is this too angry for you?

    Fish in a barrel, Man.
    The towns the fish

  97. I love it. Keep piling on the hate. Reminds me so much of the crap Rodgers took when GB wouldn’t bring the almighty Brett back just because he decided to flop over again after mini camp. Hundley has three seasons in this offense (the most complicated in the league), he can run, and he can make some phenomenal throws. GB has earned their reputation for qb development, they are the authority in the league in that regard. Give him a chance! He’s earned it! Kap is a one trick pony. Everybody knows this, that’s why he’s still unemployed. It makes absolutely no sense to bring that reckless mess to Title Town.

  98. Apparently this is going right over your head. See how you blather on and on about Vikings fans? You’re angry- anger is an emotion. Then to add insult to injury- you can’t let it go- and you go on and on again- that’s being emotionally-wrapped. Understand?

    Fish in a barrel? Purples? Come up with something on your own instead of mocking everything the Almighty Cabbage says. I bet even he’s tired of it.

  99. Count me among the Vikings fans that aren’t ready to bury the Packers yet. On the surface, it would seem that the division is Minnesota’s to lose – though one could make an argument for the Lions to win their first ever NFC North division title – but the past 30 years have taught me not to take anything for granted with this team. There’s plenty of bad football teams and I’m not ready to count Green Bay among them until I see them sinking in the cesspool.

  100. PackerCracker says:
    October 17, 2017 at 1:46 pm

    But bank on this – The NFC North will be decided on Dec 31st when the Bears/Vikings play and the Packers/Lions both square off at Noon. I’m not predicting a winner of the division, but it ain’t no gimme for any team either.
    _________

    You could very well be right, but most likely Viking fans will be rooting for the Packers that day.

  101. sb44champs says:
    October 18, 2017 at 9:40 am

    Saints would beat the Vikings if they played them now…no doubt

    _____________

    Or the Vikings D would continue to keep the Saints out of the endzone. What a homer, no doubt.

  102. annes22 says:

    October 17, 2017 at 11:55 am

    mattyork1972 yes the Dolphins are ranked higher than the Saints/
    You obviously have no clue about their first 4 weeks of the season.
    Barely home in Florida, and now no bye week. They showed up in Atlanta
    Sunday, after finally being home for a week!!! Just not been a very satisfactory
    way of starting the season, flying all over the place.
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    IRDC about Power Rankings, at least you get to play Home games this year the Saints played In Baton Rouge for the whole year after Katrina? Saints beat the Dolphins 20-0 in London not a home game for either team..

  103. This can’t be right. Every year I’m told the AFC East is the worst in football but here they have 3 teams in the top 11?

  104. schmokes says:

    October 17, 2017 at 11:23 am

    20. Packers (4-2; No. 2): For a team that relies so much on Aaron Rodgers, losing him and stubbornly insisting on “next man up” guarantees that they’ll be the first team out in the NFC North.

    ——

    Because that’s what happened to them last time…..oh wait. They still won the division.

    ———–

    Stupid argument. In 2013 the division was super Weak. The Lions were the Lions, the Bears were the only other decent team, and the Vikings had Ponder.

    Without Rodgers the Vikings and Lions have way more talented rosters overall. Rogers covered a lot of wrinkles. TO say it’s not possible..I won’t go that far.

    But this is a stupid argument.

  105. @Waffle, take a step back and read how much time and effort you put into your posts about the Vikings and then ask yourself if that’s the actions of someone who isn’t emotionally invested.

    Packer fans should be elated, they will get a glimpse of their QB heir apparent when they have a winning record and have a soft schedule. Even if he only goes 4-4 before Rodgers gets back you will be in a position to make the playoffs. And if he can’t go 4-4 against that cupcake schedule and three years in the system then you learned you need to draft a new QB and you’ll have a better draft position to do so.

  106. packers291 says:
    October 19, 2017 at 1:09 pm

    BREAKING NEWS: Power rankings don’t mean anything.

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    …as the Pack plummets 18 spots. .
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  107. I wonder if citizenstrange even watches any Steeler games, all his commentary is merely about the final score. They beat a very good Chiefs team, period. And when Ben is done playing, you better pray his heir is even near as good as Ben was. Period. I’ve suffered with the collection of dreck between him and Bradshaw. Have you??

  108. Seahawks jump is because you’ve forgotten how terrible they’ve looked during the first quarter of the season. They’ll drop again next week.

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    After losing to the…. Giants?

    Actually the guys ranking them high have been paying attention for a few years and realize it’s the same story every year as the offensive-line gets to know one another and gel. Bad start every year and then they slowly become the force that they always are at the end of the year and make the playoffs once again. 5 straight years now…they were 2-4 two seasons ago and still made the playoffs with the same issues as today. The big difference I see this year is that EVERYONE seems to have OL problems not just the Seahawks.

    You’re the one is forgotten who the Seahawks are if you ever knew or were ever paying attention.

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