President Trump slams NFL for not forcing players to stand for anthem

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The NFL is back on President Trump’s radar Wednesday.

The President went on a Twitter spurt Wednesday morning and the NFL’s announcement that there will be no change to league rules regarding the national anthem was part of his agenda.

After a day that included a meeting between players and team owners as well as another meeting with just owners, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell confirmed that the league did not make any proposals regarding changing the rules for the national anthem.

Goodell and others in attendance at both meetings conveyed that the meetings were focused on issues raised by player protests over the last two years and how to work together to take action toward addressing them rather than the anthem. That strategy is one that attempts to move beyond the anthem issue, although it’s clear the President isn’t interested in joining the league and players in that effort.

148 responses to “President Trump slams NFL for not forcing players to stand for anthem

  1. As he should. The players are disrespectful to our country. If those players want to protest, go to Chicago mayors office and protest the murders in that city by the criminals.

  2. These players should be going to Chicago mayor’s office and protest the killings of innocent black children by criminals. Make a real difference instead of being a bunch of anti-American losers during the national anthem.

  3. No, Trump, stop disrespecting our fallen soldier’s. What you said to one of the families is disgusting and I will no longer respect you or listen to what you say. I cannot respect a US President who does not respect the US military.

  4. When President Trump had the chance to serve our great nation and flag instead….he knelt. He dodged the Viet Nam era draft five times. He more recently mocked and disparaged those who did serve, our POWs, saying he preferred soldiers who weren’t “captured. This from someone who did everything he could to avoid serving himself. Now he needs an issue to distract from his lack of accomplishment and substance and like many a politician throughout history, tries to wrap himself in the flag, because, you know, who would ever think someone so obviously “patriotic” could be running another of his cons.

  5. mikea311 says:
    October 18, 2017 at 7:34 am
    #notmypresident

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    This never fails to crack me up when I see it.

  6. So these overpaid crybabies will continue to keep kneel, sit, or whatever for a cause that has no attainable goal. When will they say “mission accomplished”? Never! There is no goal! Half of them don’t even know what they are protesting about. But the NFL and their out of touch whiny paid actors will continue to alienate their customers. Good luck with that business model.

  7. Glad to see our “leader” can immediately respond to NFL issues but it takes him weeks to contact and console the families of soldiers who died in Niger. Respect the troops? Come Trump supporters you can’t really think this behavior is ok from a president.

  8. As a Trump supporter I really wish he’d shut up on this topic. I hate hearing criticism of him over for a lot of BS lies from the left but he’s bringing criticism upon himself by beating this dead horse

  9. The false statement he made this week about him being the ONLY president to call fallen soldiers, you know because he’s just that awesome and on top of that he didn’t even call all the soldiers families.

    But yea, let’s deflect and focus fake outrage on the NFL because that’s a better news story for him.

  10. He IS Everyone’s president in this country so deal with it already! Quit whining and making this great country look like a joke that it’s become with all the complaining! GROW UP! Thank you President Trump for speaking the truth and not speaking what you think everybody wants to hear.

  11. Trump’s patriotism is based only on what he picks and chooses. He insults McCain, who served this country, insulted a Gold Star family, and doesn’t even acknowledge recent fallen soldiers until after 12 days, then goes to insult one of the soldier’s widow by saying “he knew what he signed up for”. As Pop described Trump, he is a “soul less coward”, who also happens to also be clueless. He needs to keep his nose out of the NFL.

  12. Trump reportedly tells slain soldier’s widow “he knew what he signed up for”. I wonder if he added, “the same thing I refused to sign up for when I heroically dodged the draft five times”?

  13. A President who (1) tells a military widow that her husband “knew what he was getting into” while she was traveling to pick he husband’s remains and (2) avoided military service with imaginary heel spurs has no business whatsoever lecturing anyone on what does or does not disrespect the military and America.

  14. Trjmp claims he’s a great deal maker. He wants players to stand, but he’s done nothing to actually make the deal for something he wants to happen. Seems to me he only knows how to demand, not Make deals. That is childish.

  15. Is it possible he is the real life wizard of OZ? I mean he does so much don’t pay attention to what im doing look at what they are doing, and so many people fall for it.

  16. I wonder if Trump has the National Anthem played at all of his businesses and forces his employees to stand each day? Since he is so patriotic and all.

  17. The more Trump talks about the National Anthem, purposefully trying to divide us, the less attention is made to his terrible Presidency, Russian meddling in our elections, failures in repealing the ACA, his corrupt family, etc etc. It’s obvious people, wake up.

  18. Good for them. Actually makes me think Goodell might have a spine and a brain somewhere. The Tweeter-in-Chief should be careful when using the term “disrespect”. Somehow I think him vomiting more lies like the pathological liar he is might be a little more disrespectful than silently kneeling. He was a draft dodger who suffered from the devastating pain of heel spurs. I sure hope those have healed up. Meanwhile, Trump disrespects veterans like McCain who broke both arms, one leg, and suffered unimaginable torture in Vietnam by making a joke of it.

  19. I definitely believe the players should absolutely stand out of respect and love for country or as a common courtesy, but forcing someone to stand seems a bit too much in a “Free” country. If certain players feel that strongly about making a statement then they should stay in the locker room.

  20. Trump’s the one who started all this by shooting off his big mouth. He’s a total moron who just can’t help shooting off his big mouth like the bully that he is. Most definitely #notmypresident.

  21. Forced Patriotism is like Confessions Under Torture.

    Its both worthless
    and appealing
    to the people who keep threatening to
    stop watching the NFL.

  22. Trump is poison to the U.S. Do your job and just worry more about North Korea firing nuclear to the U.S and Puerto Rico. Worthless president ever.

  23. Trump should stop disrespecting the troops first, then maybe he might have some moral high ground. It’s kind of tough for a man with no morals have the moral high ground.

    As for the moron high ground, he definitely has that locked up, according to Sec. Rex Tillerson.

  24. Mr. Trump,
    Thank you for standing up for our country when these rich athletes use our flag as a stomping ground of activism. If they were really interested in change they believed in, then get off your knees, stand up, and put your money where your mouth is, and be the change you want to see in the world. Right now, our society views your kneeling as highly disrespectful. So cut it out, and make the difference you want to see. Leave our flag and fallen soldiers out of it.

  25. The players and the NFL are addressing the issues in Chicago and other cities. It is not their job to. Trump is the one the one who is not addressing the issues in Chicago and it is HIS job to do so.

  26. Land of the free… where people the president tries to “force” people to do what he wants.

    National debt has grown by half a trillion dollars since Trump took office. But nobody is “forcing” him to fix that. Priorities.

  27. It is disrespectful to the fans, to the police officers that protect us from criminals, to the soldiers and to all the people who admire the ideals the flag and anthem represent. That is a fact and that is what Trump said. Make all your ad hominem attacks on President Trump that you want, you will only help him, since everyone sees through your emotional tantrums.

  28. You can’t force “respect” That’s say that the players were MADE to stand for the anthem, how does that not ring hollow as showing respect?

  29. A president’s job is to weigh in on social issues via Twitter in between his all-important golf games. Who knew?

  30. Man, the Trumpflakes are taking a beating on this one. LOLOLOL. Ratings for the season down 7%. Wow- you guy really showed them! I thought the “majority” of NFL fans were disgusted and were going to stop watching? I’m sure that will happen any minute now. Sounded great when you were puffing your chests out but when Sunday came you…just…couldn’t….help…yourselves.

    There was a great picture floating around of a fan at the Jets game with a “I Stand For The Anthem” T-shirt on SITTING on the flag. You neocon chickenhawks don’t even know what respecting a flag actually means.

    Now I see you’re all attacking Greg Popovich for “attacking” your hero. So you’re taking sides with a draft dodger over a man who served his country with distinction. Man, you guys don’t know which way is up.

    In the immortal words of Brian Fantana in Anchorman: Take is easy Champ. Why don’t you stop talking for awhile.

  31. He’s just pissed at being rebuked by the NFL owners, all of whom (except one: Green Bay) are actual billionaires. He couldn’t care less about respecting America. He’s focused on revenge for that $3 award in the USFL anti-trust suit!

  32. “Wrongfully influencing a private entity’s employment decisions by a Member of Congress or an officer or employee of the legislative or executive branch.”

    The POTUS broke the law when he said the NFL should fire players that kneel. Any chance the Justice dept investigates?

  33. Good to see there are still a lot of idiots that think the players are “protesting the flag” and not actually protesting police killing minorities, which is what they’ve been doing the entire time.

  34. I would like to think Trump has better things to do than go after an organization and it’s employee’s that he has ABSOLUTELY no control over…. Like taking away healthcare from those that can least afford it… or work on getting tax breaks for the top 1% of this country that will pretty much SCREW the rest of us. The madness needs to end.

  35. All the whiners on here need to donate their additional 401K earnings to charity in light of protesting Trump, step up with your wallets and show how upset you really are. We know that won’t happen so..,,

  36. Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a personality disorder in which there is a long-term pattern of abnormal behavior characterized by exaggerated feelings of self-importance, an excessive need for admiration, and a lack of understanding of others’ feeling

  37. He speaks for the majority of fans. He says what we’ve said for the last year. You can ignore and dismiss us but you can’t ignore him, to your great dismay.

  38. For someone who ran their campaign on less government interference into peoples business, he sure has butted into this one. He is right, they should stand, but since he got involved it has made it 1000 times worse. Mr. President please stick to issues like Puerto Rico, North Korea, and ISIS.

  39. Players have the right to protest, as disrespectful as it is. No doubt. Fans have the right to call them out or not watch/go to games. No doubt. Same for Trump. But what is becoming more and more clear is this protesting during the National Anthem is taking away from the sport and I do not see any good coming from it at all.

  40. bbb82 says:

    National debt has grown by half a trillion dollars since Trump took office. But nobody is “forcing” him to fix that. Priorities.
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    He hasn’t had a budget put on his desk to sign. The last one was Obama’s.

  41. doctorpancake says:
    October 18, 2017 at 8:47 am
    Good to see there are still a lot of idiots that think the players are “protesting the flag” and not actually protesting police killing minorities, which is what they’ve been doing the entire time.

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    Let me help you see it better then….people are complainng about using the act of disrespecting the flag as their means of protesting.

    And before passing judgement on that, if people around you protested police killing minorities by throwing eggs at your house would you be ok with that?

  42. Take a look at the prior two presidents before Trump. Sure, different backgrounds, different ideologies, etc. I didn’t agree with everything that either Bush or Obama did, but at the very least they carried themselves with a sense of dignity, respect, and intelligence. You at least knew that they were doing what they thought was right, whether you agreed with it or not. Political party affiliations aside, I don’t know if a reasonable human being could say any of that in regards to our current President.

  43. Anyone that agrees with him is an idiot. If he wants players to stand then maybe he should do something about the racial injustice that is constantly happening to minorities in this country. He needs to focus on his duties as a president and not worry about professional athletes. Worst president ever!

  44. You can’t force “respect” That’s say that the players were MADE to stand for the anthem, how does that not ring hollow as showing respect?

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    BTW, to quote myself…..I want to make clear that the player protests aren’t about the flag or soldiers who fight for our country. I haven’t heard or seen a player talking smack about the flag. It’s about the apparent unequal treatment (especially with law enforcement) depending on race. People like to counter with arguments about how much money the players make and equality. Moot point..You can make all the money in the world but still be profiled or treated unequally base on the color of your skin.

  45. Michael E says:
    October 18, 2017 at 9:06 am
    bbb82 says:

    National debt has grown by half a trillion dollars since Trump took office. But nobody is “forcing” him to fix that. Priorities.
    ===================================================

    He hasn’t had a budget put on his desk to sign. The last one was Obama’s.
    ========

    But when Trump brags about how great the economy is since he took office, I’m sure you’re loving that- despite the fact that his administration has not done a single thing that could influence the economy either way.

  46. Wasn’t there an article just a couple days ago that said this meeting was never intended to talk about the anthem and that they will have a separate meeting with just the owners (because it doesn’t really matter what the players think) that will discuss this issue? They still might force them to stand. This meeting was probably more about talking to the players and acting like they are trying to solve their social grievances so that they won’t have to force them to stand, but if you keep seeing a lot of them kneeling and the ratings keep dropping, the NFL will ultimately make that decision. They probably told them they aren’t being forced to stand but if they understand the business side that they will choose to do so. There has been a lot of articles already hinting at that. We’ll see how stupid these players are.

    Oh, and Trump is all American’s president no matter what you keep mumbling to yourself while rocking back and forth in a room by yourself. Get used to it because he isn’t getting impeached like you nutjobs think. He might even win again. Your delusions are strong. Take this issue as a win, feel good for once and go get some help, you hysterical snowflakes.

  47. bruiser2015 says:
    October 18, 2017 at 9:12 am
    You can’t force “respect” That’s say that the players were MADE to stand for the anthem, how does that not ring hollow as showing respect?

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    BTW, to quote myself…..I want to make clear that the player protests aren’t about the flag or soldiers who fight for our country. I haven’t heard or seen a player talking smack about the flag. It’s about the apparent unequal treatment (especially with law enforcement) depending on race. People like to counter with arguments about how much money the players make and equality. Moot point..You can make all the money in the world but still be profiled or treated unequally base on the color of your skin.

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    No matter how many times you say it’s not about the flag or the soldiers who gave so bravely to protect our rights, it just IS when you do it during a ‘moment’ when we pause to reflect and are grateful that so many gave so much to give us the freedom we have today.

    Unfortunately those that state what you have above seem to be tone deaf to this and the message your’re trying to convey gets lost – like, completely lost. Find another time, refocus on your message and you’ll have a better conversation, because the American people will ALWAYS respect the flag and anthem.

  48. President Trump is Right.

    I think Most NFL Fans are okay with players peacefully protesting, but them doing it during the national Anthem is where they made their mistake. You don;t do it during the anthem. Other times would be fine, but during the Anthem is Not.

  49. Michael E says:
    October 18, 2017 at 9:03 am
    He speaks for the majority of fans.

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    not really. you have just been louder than us normal people, because we don’t tend to get as riled up. if the majority of fans agreed with him and stopped watching/going to games as you all claim, attendance and ratings would be WAY down. Ratings may be down, but not in a way that is representative of the ‘majority’ or the ‘protest of the protest’ you claim.

  50. bruiser2015 says:
    October 18, 2017 at 9:12 am
    You can’t force “respect” That’s say that the players were MADE to stand for the anthem, how does that not ring hollow as showing respect?

    __________________________________________________________________________________

    BTW, to quote myself…..I want to make clear that the player protests aren’t about the flag or soldiers who fight for our country. I haven’t heard or seen a player talking smack about the flag. It’s about the apparent unequal treatment (especially with law enforcement) depending on race. People like to counter with arguments about how much money the players make and equality. Moot point..You can make all the money in the world but still be profiled or treated unequally base on the color of your skin.

    I don;t care if players say “It’s not about the Flag or the Anthem. We SEE Players Kneeling During the Anthem. Actions speak louder than words

  51. Jazz rocks! says:
    October 18, 2017 at 9:08 am

    And before passing judgement on that, if people around you protested police killing minorities by throwing eggs at your house would you be ok with that

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    for that to be an equal analogy, the players would need to be currently throwing eggs at fans at games. they are not.

  52. The President needs to worry about running the country and shut the hell up about the NFL protests. And Mr. Trump could start by contacting the families of servicemen killed on HIS watch.

  53. Because only the best totalitarian governments force obedience of their citizenry to honor abstract symbols of the state. I’m quite sure this is what our founders had in mind.

  54. When will #45 realize that he cannot run the country like he runs his hotels. If he walks into his hotel and not like the clothes the front desk person is wearing, he can demand that they change. He needs to realize that even though president, he cannot just go around “demanding” that people do what he says.

  55. Let him talk or tweet, no one with a brain and at least one good seeing eye or hearing ear is listening anyway. Total and complete moron!!!

  56. “The POTUS broke the law when he said the NFL should fire players that kneel. Any chance the Justice dept investigates?”

    No, he didn’t, you need to read the text of the law:

    “with the intent to influence, solely on the basis of partisan political affiliation, an employment decision or employment practice”

    He would have to influence based on Republican partisanship. There is no partisanship in standing for the anthem, Democrats do it, as well.

  57. Trump should have hundreds of better things to do than worry about the NFL. He is only harping about the NFL to play to his fans and start more early campaigning.

  58. nbptma1 says:
    No matter how many times you say it’s not about the flag or the soldiers who gave so bravely to protect our rights, it just IS when you do it during a ‘moment’ when we pause to reflect and are grateful that so many gave so much to give us the freedom we have today.
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    No. The flag represents the entire Nation, that is: all of us. Every since person who lives here, of which people who serve(d) in the military are one small percentage. It represents our ideals, our diversity, our government, our people, our past and our present and our hopes for the future.

    And the only soldiers who “gave so much to give us freedom” last did so during the Civil War. The rest died fighting the establishment of aggressive foreign governments and Terrorists who were in no position to “take our freedoms”. (The Patriot Act & Citizens United did that) This is Bush II era rhetoric used to justify the Iraq invasion.

  59. It is disrespectful to the fans, to the police officers that protect us from criminals, to the soldiers and to all the people who admire the ideals the flag and anthem represent. That is a fact and that is what Trump said. Make all your ad hominem attacks on President Trump that you want, you will only help him, since everyone sees through your emotional tantrums.

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    You know whats disrepctful?
    The way to talks to the mother of fallen soldier.
    The way he talks to a senator of the US who is also a veteran and former POW.
    The way he dodged the draft.

    He doesn’t give a hoot about you or the country. He just cares about himself. Always has, always will.

  60. Dear President Snowflake, Well, I guess you know what you signed up for, but I guess it still hurts, huh

  61. nbptma1 says:
    October 18, 2017 at 9:22 am

    No matter how many times you say it’s not about the flag or the soldiers who gave so bravely to protect our rights, it just IS when you do it during a ‘moment’ when we pause to reflect and are grateful that so many gave so much to give us the freedom we have today.

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    What value does a moment of reflection have if it is forced? How many times do we have to tell you that forced allegiance is the tool of totalitarianism and runs counter to the very definition of Freedom?

    If you believe it is right to force people to demonstrate allegiance, what could Freedom possibly really mean to you?

  62. No matter how many times you say it’s not about the flag or the soldiers who gave so bravely to protect our rights, it just IS when you do it during a ‘moment’ when we pause to reflect and are grateful that so many gave so much to give us the freedom we have today.

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    you mean the freedom you want to take away?

    I am a strong supporter of the US Flag. My reasons are very personal to me. I understand the words of the Pledge of Allegiance:

    I pledge allegiance, to the flag,
    of the United States of America,
    and to the republic for which it stands,
    one nation under God, indivisible,
    with liberty and justice for all.

    in short, the flag is a symbol that stands for a republic that provides liberty and justice for all. The initial protest by Kaepernick was that the republic does not provide liberty and justice for all.

    Why is that so hard to understand?

    Myself, I don’t think that I could ever be convinced to kneel during the National Anthem, but I do respect the right of others to do so.

    And up until now, so have the NFL’s owners.

  63. What the NFL refuses to admit is that they are losing this battle in the court of public opinion, and the declining ratings reflect that.

    CBS just got hit hard due to a 17% decline in NFL ratings on Sundays. Like it or not, Trump is winning this fight, and the pride and arrogance of the league office and the protesting players is blinding them to this reality.

  64. Lol…coming from a man who disrespects women, soldiers, basically anyone who doesn’t fit his ideals.

  65. Amazing after all this time that our vaunted progressive elites still do not get it. Trump knows exactly what he is doing. This is pure red meat to his voters, and he is also shining a spotlight on Goodell’s incompetence as a favor to certain victims who shall remain nameless Tom Brady. This guy beat out 16 professional politicians including Clinton, Inc., and you still think he is a fool. This issue alone could get him re-elected. Sleep tight.

  66. from SCOTUS majority decision in West Virginia Board of Educations v Barnette, which decided that children in school could not be compelled to stand and salute the flag during the Pledge of Allegiance:

    “If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein. If there are any circumstances which permit an exception, they do not now occur to us.”

    That decision was handed down on June 14, 1943 – Flag Day

  67. Take Marcus Peters decension. He is the only guy disgracing anthem for KC. His perforamnce is being undermined by his actions and he is thrown at constantly this year, underperforming in a year where his financial future for the rest of his life will be determined. All local ppl have villainized him and he being called out left and right, obviuosly affecting his play at at crucial time in his life. NOW, what his peers and fellow men should do is tell him to stay in his 24 year old lane and focus, make his money, stay All-Pro, get paid and then……do your social injustice thing after when youre rich and little more mature. Kapaernick had 11 million last year, now he has 0.00. Doing you while at work and making social complaints instead of focusing on the job will get you nothing in the US. SOMEONE please help them, dont beleive that anyone actaully will care when you lose your job or that something will change. Grow up some more, this whole thing is childish period(s)….

  68. OK let’s look at Marcus Peters descension – KC cornerback. He is the only guy disgracing anthem for KC. His performance is being undermined by his actions and he is thrown at constantly this year, underperforming in a year where his financial future for the rest of his life will be determined. All local ppl have villainized him and he being called out left and right, obviously affecting his play at at crucial time in his life. NOW, what his peers and fellow men should do is tell him to stay in his 24 year old lane and focus, make his money, stay All-Pro, get paid and then……do your social injustice thing after when you’re rich and little more mature. Kaepernick had 11 million last year, now he has 0.00. Doing you while at work and making social complaints instead of focusing on the job will get you nothing in the US. SOMEONE please help them, don’t believe that anyone actually will care when you lose your job or that something will change. Grow up some more, this whole thing is childish period(s)….

  69. fwippel says:
    October 18, 2017 at 9:57 am
    What the NFL refuses to admit is that they are losing this battle in the court of public opinion, and the declining ratings reflect that.

    CBS just got hit hard due to a 17% decline in NFL ratings on Sundays. Like it or not, Trump is winning this fight, and the pride and arrogance of the league office and the protesting players is blinding them to this reality.
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    I’m not sure where you were during math class, but 17% is nowhere near close to a majority. That means for every 10 people watching football last season at this time, 8 of them are still watching it this year.

    BTW- the actual figure overall is closer to 7%. Again: a “majority” would mean at least 51%. Can you see the difference?

  70. braczey29 says:
    October 18, 2017 at 10:04 am
    Take Marcus Peters decension. He is the only guy disgracing anthem for KC. His perforamnce is being undermined by his actions and he is thrown at constantly this year, underperforming in a year where his financial future for the rest of his life will be determined.
    ==

    Is it actually your opinion that teams are throwing at him because of his protest?

  71. A 5 time draft dodger who grossly insulted POWs, and now we learn has insulted the widow of a recently fallen soldier.

    Fake patriot, fake president, what a vile little worm of a man Trump is

  72. When will the media pick up on the obvious, and that’s that Trump hates the NFL from his USFL days?

    He’s been waiting to get revenge on the Shield for years. That’s all this boils down to.

  73. audio2sell says:
    October 18, 2017 at 7:35 am

    These players should be going to Chicago mayor’s office and protest the killings of innocent black children by criminals. Make a real difference instead of being a bunch of anti-American losers during the national anthem.
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    Doesn’t that seem like the job of, I don’t know, the president?

  74. No bc he is not playing well, so teams continue to throw at him. Look at the numbers for him and he’s getting beat regularly….he was virtually a shutdown guy his first two years. Now he’s suddenly looks like he cant play….he’s clearly a dsitacted athlete now, not hurt. He will suffer for this and you or I wont be able to help, he’ll accomplish nothing. be quiet and play football, get paid and THEN….do you

  75. fwippel says:
    October 18, 2017 at 9:57 am

    What the NFL refuses to admit is that they are losing this battle in the court of public opinion, and the declining ratings reflect that.

    CBS just got hit hard due to a 17% decline in NFL ratings on Sundays. Like it or not, Trump is winning this fight, and the pride and arrogance of the league office and the protesting players is blinding them to this reality.
    ========================================

    so what? do you have a stake in whether the NFL makes money or not? I watch the football games, I have no interest in the business of the NFL .. what an odd thing for a fan of the game to say. Are you a major shareholder in the NFL or something?

  76. Anyone who can dodge the draft legally …probably will (Trump, Bush Jr, Clinton). At least Trump can actually perform a job function or two unlike the last celebrity we had crash the ship. I have no quams with someone protecting their own life, my dad volunteered after college for two tours, so what, he’s a free man too. That’s why he stands for national anthem and I do now.

  77. Isn’t the phrase “Make America Great Again” a disrespect of our country? You are saying that America isn’t great. His entire campaign was built on saying that America has problem and he wants to fix them.

  78. fwippel says:
    October 18, 2017 at 9:57 am
    What the NFL refuses to admit is that they are losing this battle in the court of public opinion, and the declining ratings reflect that.
    CBS just got hit hard due to a 17% decline in NFL ratings on Sundays. Like it or not, Trump is winning this fight, and the pride and arrogance of the league office and the protesting players is blinding them to this reality.

    ————

    Call me when the NFL isn’t the most popular show on TV anymore. Until then ratings up and down are just bumps and bruises, not a season ending injury.

  79. lukedunphysscienceproject says:
    October 18, 2017 at 10:13 am
    fwippel says:
    October 18, 2017 at 9:57 am
    What the NFL refuses to admit is that they are losing this battle in the court of public opinion, and the declining ratings reflect that.

    CBS just got hit hard due to a 17% decline in NFL ratings on Sundays. Like it or not, Trump is winning this fight, and the pride and arrogance of the league office and the protesting players is blinding them to this reality.
    ========

    I’m not sure where you were during math class, but 17% is nowhere near close to a majority. That means for every 10 people watching football last season at this time, 8 of them are still watching it this year.

    BTW- the actual figure overall is closer to 7%. Again: a “majority” would mean at least 51%. Can you see the difference?

    ========
    If you don’t understand how declining ratings effects revenue, advertising rates and player salaries, then I wouldn’t expect you to get the point of my post.

  80. Can’t wait for all the claims of racism next season. Lots of these high-priced, loud-mouths are going to get cut when the salary cap shrinks like this year’s NFL revenues are. You may or may not like President Trump, but he will have the last laugh on this issue.

  81. spartanlegend says:
    October 18, 2017 at 9:08 am
    This man is a total and complete embarrassment to this country. Can we start the impeachment hearings yet?

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    Sure, just put down what you think you have for your grounds for impeachment and that can start rolling. Keep in mind that because you hate him is not grounds for impeachment, you need something real that has bern proven true.

  82. The Accidental President, without the support of the majority of people in this great country, has spoken!

    Hit the mute button.

  83. This is a complete joke. President Trump has accomplished NOTHING during is 9 plus months in office. So what does he do? Takes a hot button issue and acts like he is the champion of it. It fires up his base and takes the attention away from the fact that he has accomplished NOTHING while in office. Bravo Trump, bravo.

  84. Do I think the American flag and US soldiers should be respected? Yes.
    Do I think that everyone is *required* to agree with me? No.
    Do I realize President is pushing this issue as a distraction from the many things that aren’t going his way? Yes.

    Look – players are people too. They are allowed to have their own opinions, and their own values. While I can think kneeling for the anthem is somewhat classless; I also acknowledge that they feel they are doing a silent, peaceful, protest for a cause they believe in. That I CAN respect.

    I also believe that the President is pushing this for his own ends, and this is beginning to push the edges of free speech and right to protest. Which I *do* value.

    And to be perfectly honest – protests are SUPPOSED to be slightly annoying… Their purpose is to disrupt the status quo and cause conversation about the topic being protested.

    In that case – it is a success.

    So I’m going to go “Do what you think you gotta do, dude” and then file it under “actions that would annoy me, if I let it – but I’m simply going to ignore it because fighting it has potentially worse outcomes than simply ignoring it.”

  85. fwippel says:
    October 18, 2017 at 10:44 am
    lukedunphysscienceproject says:
    October 18, 2017 at 10:13 am
    fwippel says:
    October 18, 2017 at 9:57 am
    What the NFL refuses to admit is that they are losing this battle in the court of public opinion, and the declining ratings reflect that.

    CBS just got hit hard due to a 17% decline in NFL ratings on Sundays. Like it or not, Trump is winning this fight, and the pride and arrogance of the league office and the protesting players is blinding them to this reality.
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    I’m not sure where you were during math class, but 17% is nowhere near close to a majority. That means for every 10 people watching football last season at this time, 8 of them are still watching it this year.

    BTW- the actual figure overall is closer to 7%. Again: a “majority” would mean at least 51%. Can you see the difference?

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    If you don’t understand how declining ratings effects revenue, advertising rates and player salaries, then I wouldn’t expect you to get the point of my post.
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    Not sure how you can make that point when absolutely none of those things has happened.

  86. Looks like Trump still holds a grudge against the NFL for his failure to acquire an NFL franchise. He should get over it.

  87. I wish all you fake patriots would make up your mind about what exactly is patriotic. One one hand you say that players taking a knee is Anti-American and unpatriotic, but then you REMAIN silent when your president tells a widow that her husband knew what he signed up for, when his remains are flown back after giving up his life for his country. Is that not unpatriotic? Or unpresidential?

  88. Well, athletes weren’t the smart guys at my school because they didn’t have to be. They did only and exactly what they were told to do, that’s their nature. Dont leave it up to them or they will continue to alienate themselves, their fans, the whole thing looks weak now. These “men” are really kids, just not in the right position in their lives to be doing this. It’s hurting their financial prospects individually and as a whole – what more reason do you need to realize the futility of these actions. Stop. Play football. Everyone gets burned or crapped on (except Trump apparently:) in life at some point, let’s move on please.

  89. lukedunphysscienceproject says:
    October 18, 2017 at 10:59 am
    fwippel says:
    October 18, 2017 at 10:44 am
    lukedunphysscienceproject says:
    October 18, 2017 at 10:13 am
    fwippel says:
    October 18, 2017 at 9:57 am
    What the NFL refuses to admit is that they are losing this battle in the court of public opinion, and the declining ratings reflect that.

    CBS just got hit hard due to a 17% decline in NFL ratings on Sundays. Like it or not, Trump is winning this fight, and the pride and arrogance of the league office and the protesting players is blinding them to this reality.
    ========

    I’m not sure where you were during math class, but 17% is nowhere near close to a majority. That means for every 10 people watching football last season at this time, 8 of them are still watching it this year.

    BTW- the actual figure overall is closer to 7%. Again: a “majority” would mean at least 51%. Can you see the difference?

    ========
    If you don’t understand how declining ratings effects revenue, advertising rates and player salaries, then I wouldn’t expect you to get the point of my post.
    ============

    Not sure how you can make that point when absolutely none of those things has happened.

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    Not sure how you can deny it. That ratings are down is not in dispute, even the post the guy was questioning admits that as it argues over the number. Players salaries have not true, nor has owner profits because they ate still under the current mecia deals. But the owners know that when they negotiate the next deals the media is not going to want to pay as much if the numbers are still down. Indeed, their confidence in the NFL being able to sustain ratings will have bearing on what they will pay and there is no way that hasnt been shaken. I do not know what took place in the conversations with DirectTV, it stands to reason they would have raised the topic of getting money back n the existing contract but no one has to disclose if the NFL actually gave any. But there is no doubt that after having to give refunds to customers they will want a break on their next contract.

  90. Listen, Trump IS an idiot.

    The NBA officially started their season yesterday and how many players knelt?
    ZERO………Why? The NBA actually has rules that require players to stand. For almost 20 years.

    Not mant people posted in anger about that issue while Bush, Clinton or Obama stood by
    while another major sports league (with a revenue of $4.8 billion), forced Shaq, Kobe, Jordan, Wade, LeBron, and more to stand.

    Trump isn’t setting a precedent here.
    Needless police brutality and crime certainly didn’t just appear.
    Lets stop politicizing protesting posture, and actually start working on actions to fix things.

    Ignoring what the NBA has as rules turns #notmypresident into #notmysport #notmyproblem

  91. nbptma1 says:
    October 18, 2017 at 8:43 am

    Once again, Trump’s right!
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    The next time Trump’s right will be the FIRST time he’s been right.

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