If Marshawn had been available, would the Raiders have run from the one?

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The memorable finish to last night’s Chiefs-Raiders games could have been more memorable if running back Marshawn Lynch had been available to play.

After the touchdown catch by tight end Jared Cook became, via replay review, first and goal from just outside the goal line, the Raiders would have had a decision to make, if Marshawn hadn’t been ejected: Run or pass?

It was, after all, a fateful decision to pass and not to run that sent Lynch’s Seahawks to a loss in Super Bowl XLIX, and that permanently fractured Lynch’s relationship with the team. And it was Raiders quarterback Derek Carr who seemed to vow that, in a similar situation, the decision would be to run the ball.

“[T]here’s no pressure, there’s no, ‘We’ll be on the 1-yard line and I won’t give it to Marshawn, I’ll throw it,'” Carr said when discussing his then-new contract in June. “None of that stuff. I don’t care about the stats. That’s not my No. 1 objective. I don’t care if I throw 10 touchdowns next year.

So, yes, it would have been great to see the Raiders in that situation, to see what they would have done, and to see whether it would have worked, and to see what everyone would have said if it hadn’t.

36 responses to “If Marshawn had been available, would the Raiders have run from the one?

  1. Not with this Offensive Coordinator. I don’t even think the Raiders have any power formantions. This is a glorified run & shoot offense.

    We don’t have the balance or complete offensive package to contend for a championship. We’re way too one dimensional.

    Really Tony Romo should be on our sidelines communicating with Derek Carr and calling plays, and Todd Downing should be in the booth broadcasting.

  2. You clearly throw there. 8 seconds left and no timeouts. A run that fails ends the game but an incomplete pass gives you another chance.

  3. Totally different situation. If they would have run and not gotten in, the clock would have run out. They had no choice but to pass so they could have another play if they didn’t score.

  4. raiderlyfe510 says:
    October 20, 2017 at 10:06 am
    Not with this Offensive Coordinator. I don’t even think the Raiders have any power formantions. This is a glorified run & shoot offense.

    We don’t have the balance or complete offensive package to contend for a championship. We’re way too one dimensional.

    Really Tony Romo should be on our sidelines communicating with Derek Carr and calling plays, and Todd Downing should be in the booth broadcasting.

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    Kinda funny that Romo is so great as an announcer, yet he was so dumb as a QB.

    The guy just runs his mouth constantly in the booth and he’s just throwing crap the wall, hoping it sticks, which is how he played.

  5. I think that 10 second runoff rule is stupid. It’s not Oakland’s fault that the officials called it wrong. It basically means if you have no timeouts and a call is overturned (because the officials got it wrong), you automatically lose the 10secs.

  6. NO. Because, just like in the super bowl, the clock/timeout situation meant you had to pass. Only morons think the SB pass was stupid. It was the right call that was executed poorly, with some great execution by Malcolm butler. I can’t believe this is still a thing

  7. “It was, after all, a fateful decision to pass and not to run that sent Lynch’s Seahawks to a loss in Super Bowl XLIX”

    Everyone acts like it would have been an automatic TD for Seattle if they had run. The reason why they didn’t give the ball to Lynch at that point in the Super Bowl? They had done so 5 times previously that season and you know how many times he got the first down? Once. That’s right a big fat 1 time out of 5.

    That 20% conversion rate surely was beastly, but not the mode the Seattle fans all crowed about.

  8. Funny the Raiders have to play the officials every week we always get bad calls…… we scored three TDs before they gave us the last one Crabtree on the pylon for the WIN!!!!

    GREAT RAIDER WIN !!!

    RAIDER4LIFE

  9. Jones Smith says:October 20, 2017 at 10:43 am
    NO. Because, just like in the super bowl, the clock/timeout situation meant you had to pass. Only morons think the SB pass was stupid. It was the right call that was executed poorly, with some great execution by Malcolm butler. I can’t believe this is still a thing
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    Aaaaaaand, that, ladies and gentlemen, is a prime example of how you lose any credibility when trying to make a point. Calling people morons who disagree with your opinion is an instant loss. Bye bye

  10. First Raiders offensive play Carr lines up in shotgun with Lynch to his right. It could be a dive, read option, draw, etc…, but no. Marshawn is back there putting his gloves on, strapping his helmet, tucking in his shirt clearly telling KC I’m not getting the ball. Houston sees this and yells its a pass! Its the little things like that holding the Raiders back.

  11. Jones Smith says:
    October 20, 2017 at 10:43 am
    NO. Because, just like in the super bowl, the clock/timeout situation meant you had to pass. Only morons think the SB pass was stupid. It was the right call that was executed poorly, with some great execution by Malcolm butler. I can’t believe this is still a thing
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    It will remain a thing because because the Pats haters and one year dynasty fans need it to be. They have to ignore: NE scoring 14 in the 4th quarter, the desperation circus catch that set up the 1st down, Belichick letting the clock run to put the heat on Carroll, Lynch’s 20% success rate from the 1, the personnel groupings on the field, the timeout & time remaining, Seattle’s success rate with that slant, the fact that no int had been thrown at the 1 all year and The Pats got it right. If Wilson threw the ball away as he should have Seattle would have had 2 more shots at it. It was poor execution based on a poor read by a relatively inexperienced QB who saw what he expected to see because that’s what Belichick showed him. It’s just easier for the weak minded and hate filled to lock in on the play call.

  12. Earlier this year he failed to gain a yard for a first down, against Denver I think. Amazing how easily facts can be dismiss for false narrative…

  13. aarons444 says:
    October 20, 2017 at 11:11 am
    You lost me at; Jared Cook scored a touchdown.

    Last time I saw him, he was on a milk carton.
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    Too bad you missed the game, Cook was awesome all night.

  14. Too bad you missed the game, Cook was awesome all night.
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    I did miss the game.

    .. since his time as a Packer, I’ll never use “miss” in a sentence with that guy.

    I “miss” him like I miss a hemorrhoid.

  15. If Wilson threw the ball away as he should have Seattle would have had 2 more shots at it. It was poor execution based on a poor read by a relatively inexperienced QB who saw what he expected to see because that’s what Belichick showed him.
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    It was a bad playcall.

    Your call on a Super Bowl deciding play involves your #4 WR? What is this? Madden fooball?

    Credit to the Pats on their prep, and props to Butler for executing.. but ultimate fail to Bevell and Pete.

  16. No, cuz he wouldn’t have taken the handoff, he would have ran over to stop Amari Cooper from blocking his friend, err, cousin.

  17. Everyone acts like it would have been an automatic TD for Seattle if they had run. The reason why they didn’t give the ball to Lynch at that point in the Super Bowl? They had done so 5 times previously that season and you know how many times he got the first down? Once. That’s right a big fat 1 time out of 5.

    That 20% conversion rate surely was beastly, but not the mode the Seattle fans all crowed about.
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    Where on earth did you find that number? Wherever, its incorrect.

    Pro Football Reference – 11 for 13 on 3rd-and-1 in 2014.

  18. As a Raider fan, we won last night because Marshawn went home. Asinine penalty. Cut him. We win when he’s not there and lose when he is. We won last year and this year…well last night tells an interesting story. Washington was a beast.

  19. .. on ANY down, needing 1 yard where Lynch carried the ball in 2014, the Seahawks converted 18 of 24 attempts (75%)

    On any down needing 2 yards or less the Seahawks converted 25 of 33 attempts on the ground (75.7%) in 2014.

  20. Giving him the ball would have been an awful call – just like it would have been in the Super Bowl. Over the course of his career, Lynch has a horrendous 19% success rate in short-yardage situations — well short of the league average of 57.5 percent. In fact since 2007 lynch has the third worst short yardage success rate of any running back with 100 carries. The fact is he is not a good short-yardage back and never has been.

  21. With the success the Raiders were having against the Chiefs’ secondary? With that officiating crew?
    NO WAY Carr would have given it to Marshawn.

  22. It was the absence of Lynch that allowed Cooper and Cook to contribute to the comeback. With Lynch still in the game, there would have been no game-winning comeback.

  23. The decision to pass the ball on the final play was made because time was running out, and they may not be able to run another play if the rushing attempt failed.

  24. Lynch has never been ‘great’ at short yard situations. At least in Seattle. Yes, he’s done it from time to time but, at 3rd and 2, he’ll get one. At 3rd and 1, he’ll get half a yard more often than not. Beast Mode came from open field type of plays, one on one. PFT, you need to give it a rest.

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