President Trump notes players still kneeling during national anthem

AP

President Trump’s push to keep NFL players who don’t stand during the national anthem a major storyline continued on Monday morning.

Players from the Giants, Seahawks and 49ers did not stand for the anthem before Sunday’s games and the President took note of it as well as the fact that the league has not bowed to his call to change the rules to force players to stand during the playing of the song. As you could probably guess, the President chose Twitter as the medium for his message.

“Two dozen NFL players continue to kneel during the National Anthem, showing total disrespect to our Flag & Country. No leadership in NFL!”

The number of players was a bit lower than 24, but it seems clear than any number of players not standing will elicit a response from the White House. He directed tweets at the league after their meetings last week ended without an edict forcing players to stand and released a petition asking people to sign in support of his view on the matter.

106 responses to “President Trump notes players still kneeling during national anthem

  1. There are so many ways the flag is disrespected in this country that I have to ask, why is this one so important to him? People put old one’s in the garbage, motorcycles drag them on the ground, they are left out in the rain and snow, etc. Could it have anything to do with the fact that the NFL would not let him into their inner circle??? Could Donald Trump be vindictive???? Could this be his way of getting even????

  2. If he’s not watching how does he know? I thought he called for a boycott? Not a boycott if you post on NFL sites, or watch NFL games.

    I think people need to stop using the word boycott if they don’t know what the definition is.

  3. One player not standing is too many.

    These players are being paid to be there and represent their team.

    If they want to sit, kneel or stand on their heads on their own time, I don’t care. They have the right to do that on their personal time.

  4. Mr. Trump is upset that he believes football players are showing a lack of respect for this country.

    Now Mr. Trump knows how the rest of us feel about most of the actions of Mr. Trump.

  5. “Could Donald Trump be vindictive????”

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    President bone spur vindictive? Pssh no way, he’s all class… big league class… class like the world has never seen before…

  6. Drumpf needs to get his golf clubs and go relax somewhere for a very long time. Maybe then he can come back and concentrate on the important things instead of trivialities like who stands and doesn’t stand for the anthem.

  7. The only people taking our draft dodging, POW trashing, fake patriot President seriously on this issue anymore are the same people who weeks ago said they were done with the NFL but still watch and show up on this site to catch up on NFL news.

  8. Owners need to weed out players whose priorities aren’t team oriented. Clearly football is merely a means to an end for certain players …like those persecuted 0-7 Niners.

  9. Know how we’re always telling athletes and celebs to stick to sports?

    Yeah, it would be great if the Toddler in Chief would stick to being the President.

    What an utter embarrassment.

  10. it’s a breathe of fresh air finally for a President to speak his mind and it’s usually the truth, that’s why so many snowflakes cry about him.

  11. See the movie Taking Chance to see why it’s disrespectful to the families of the fallen to disrespect the flag. If you can’t figure it out, Fix Yourselves!

  12. “it’s a breathe of fresh air finally for a President to speak his mind and it’s usually the truth, that’s why so many snowflakes cry about him.”

    Trump is a pathological liar. It’s almost NEVER the truth when he speaks. You people are brainwashed.

  13. They showed huge improvement this week. As much as I agree with the point I think Trump needs to shut up about it. He respeesents it poorly and as my dad used to say “being correct does not always make you right”.

  14. Man it’s so funny to see these comments in here. People claim this fake patriotic stance and are upset because some guy kneels during the anthem, but the president is literally disrespecting the wife of a fallen soldier calling her a liar and those same people have NOTHING to say. You can call it patriotism, I call it being a hypocrite and a coward.

  15. Just for the record, all of this is the owners call. Its not Trumps and its not the Leagues. Its not a first amendment right the players protest under its a workplace privledge. The ‘rights’ lay with the owners whether or not to extend that privilege. Some have some have not, but in both cases its still their call. I think there are people on both sides that need to respect the owner’s freedoms here despite all this talk about freedom or rights.

  16. A president shouldn’t have time to watch sports. Sorry, but he knew what he signed up for. Turn off the TV and do your job, Mr. President.

  17. The NFL is so much smarter than us they arent showing the anthem, that is their way of trying to get us to forget our protest.
    Whay they dont get with their pea brains is the players will figure this out too and find another way to protest so they do get notice.

  18. Trump obviously wants to keep this whole thing going. He’s the only one talking about it anymore.

  19. emmonsh says:

    October 23, 2017 at 8:57 am

    its time to take away the tax exemption the nfl receives. Stand in there Donald, your the man
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    NFL offices discontinued their tax exempt status back in 2015. The teams themselves always paid taxes.

  20. Deplorable Ernie says:
    October 23, 2017 at 9:20 am
    The NFL is so much smarter than us they arent showing the anthem, that is their way of trying to get us to forget our protest.
    Whay they dont get with their pea brains is the players will figure this out too and find another way to protest so they do get notice.

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    so then it’s not really about the flag then….as most of us already knew.

  21. All we know is NFL is not as bad as you, Trump. You’re the worse president ever in NFL and American history.

  22. Please keep making this all about Trump. After all he started all this last year right? Since he is no longer allowed to discuss anything that upsets the kneelers and their followers, I guess it is up to Goddell and Michael Bennett to comment on empty stadiums, and actually try to protect their brand. Look at the pics of Chicago, Cleveland and SF stadiums yesterday. 1/2 empty at kickoff. People flow in slowly, but this should be beyond concerning for the NFL. But the diatribes are reserved for Trump because he commented on it?

  23. Anyone else see the irony here? Trump is lashing out at the NFL for not controlling its players when at the same time Trump’s administration is constantly leaking information to the media against his orders.

  24. ktoast says:

    nobody has disrespected the flag, country, and veterans more than this orange clown
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    Must be why the vast majority of veterans support him.

  25. Standing for the flag debate? Who cares?!?!?!?!? Move on from this..sports is our escape from politics and everything else. But, Captain Comb-over can’t seem to let it go. Go read the great dig McCain had on Trump and his military deferment. Doesn’t mention Trump by name, but you get the point.

  26. Anyone else see the irony here? Trump is lashing out at the NFL for not controlling its players when at the same time Trump’s administration is constantly leaking information to the media against his orders…

    The only leaks that have come out recently is the Uranium scandel.

  27. This is all aimed at Goodell. The last line about leadership is a dead giveaway. I fully support the POTUS in this.

  28. Sad that the Commissioner of a professional sports league preserves, protects and defends the Constitution of the United States while the President of the United States ignores it.

  29. trump is a bully and is distracting from other important gaffes he and his incompetent staff have made by continuing this charade of false patriotism.

  30. The President, who dodged the draft during Nam, is making political hay, off this. He is an embarrassment to the office. He does not make me proud to be an American.

  31. Must be why the vast majority of veterans support him.

    No, they support him because he keeps dangling VA improvements over their head. But don’t worry…when he doesn’t follow through on his false promises, there won’t be any of them alive to complain, so it’s win-win for him.

  32. Cut the guy some slack. He’s done NOTHING productive since swearing in this past January and he’s simply trying to get ONE thing (right/wrong, good/bad) done before the EOY.

  33. Okay, obviously the non-football crowd (aka resist group) have infiltrated PFT because no self-respecting American agrees with a protestor disrespecting the flag or anthem.

  34. What does kneeling do other than make you look silly?? If you have such a huge problem with the police and authority, go out on a ride along and find out the day to day of these men and women you despise. If you still feel the same, then go find a more productive way to tp make a change. Kneeling does nothing.

  35. florio4prez says:

    October 23, 2017 at 10:09 am

    Cut the guy some slack. He’s done NOTHING productive since swearing in this past January and he’s simply trying to get ONE thing (right/wrong, good/bad) done before the EOY.

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    Unemployment at an all time low and my 401k has seen it’s biggest gains in over 8 years, that’s productive enough for me. keep believing he has done nothing and I will keep cashing in

  36. Maybe Don you should worry about the leadership this country sorely needs right now. That actually would be something you should pay attention to maybe due to it being your job eh? Just saying.

  37. Sad that the Commissioner of a professional sports league preserves, protects and defends the Constitution of the United States while the President of the United States ignores it…

    Well lets get a real legal opinion from Alan Dershowitz

    “The players are entitled to kneel if the owners allow them to,” Dershowitz told John Catsimatidis on New York’s 970 AM radio station. “Now the owners could say ‘no’ because the players don’t have a First Amendment right in relation to the owners. They only have a First Amendment right in relation to the government.”

    Although he disagreed with their demonstrations, Dershowitz said the First Amendment was “working well” in the context of the NFL because “both sides are being heard.”

    “They are the first ones who want free speech for themselves, but they don’t want free speech for anyone they disagree with. That’s not the way it works,” he continued. “The Constitution doesn’t distinguish between good speech and bad speech.”

  38. Michael E says:

    October 23, 2017 at 9:42 am

    Must be why the vast majority of veterans support him
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    Yet there’s nothing to back that up.

  39. I’m a veteran who served in OIF, I served for the right of every person in America to stand, or sit, or eat their nachos during the anthem – that’s their right in this FREE country of ours. Demanding that people stand would make America more like North Korea, and no one wants that. What’s next? Demanding that we all go to church. Then, what? Say we can only go to certain churches, or practice certain religions. The President needs to realize he was elected by a FREE nation. Plus, doesn’t he have other more important things he could be doing with his time…and that would be better served than tweeting, playing golf, or noting who kneels during the anthem.

  40. And everyone else notes that Trump is still the most corrupt politician in US history, constantly engaged in treason and theft of public wealth and lands.

  41. maddmatter5 says:
    October 23, 2017 at 8:33 am
    If he’s not watching how does he know? I thought he called for a boycott? Not a boycott if you post on NFL sites, or watch NFL games.

    I think people need to stop using the word boycott if they don’t know what the definition is.
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    Posting on NFL sites and watching the games are two different things. It’s not complicated. Boycotting games doesn’t mean one can express their opinion on a website.

  42. How would tRump know? He was almost certainly golfing. Titleist should sponsor the guy. The way he plays, he’s almost certainly keeping the ball division in the black!

  43. I find it funny how the media made this issue what it is by covering it daily since Colon started kneeling. Now they are crying about Trump talking about it and calling them out to their face. It takes their mask off and shows their disdain for true Americans. Well, the feeling is mutual.

  44. nj22 says:

    Yup They’re still kneeling and he’s still sucking at being a president.
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    And NFL ratings and attendance is still plummeting.

  45. moosejawman,

    Attendance in Chicago? Chicago, which has not seen a single player protest?

    Yeah, I think Bears fans were really outraged over — wait, there were no protests. Maybe Bears fans stayed home because they wanted players that protest?

    Or maybe the idea of being outside in a storm to see one bad team (the Bears) play and even worse team (Carolina) wasn’t considered a good time?

  46. Didn’t he say he “wasn’t preoccupied” with the NFL a long time ago? Still seems pretty occupied.

    Get over yourself Donald. You have a job to do, and still haven’t figured out how to do it. Maybe go worry about something that actually matters, if you have the capacity (we already know he doesn’t which is why all he can do is tweet brain farts all day and pander to his base with ignorance)

    Dude is still bitter over his failed USFL venture.

  47. smithdp says:
    October 23, 2017 at 9:17 am

    “I wouldn’t know, having watched no games”

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    Yet here you are, on ProFootballTalk.

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    He never said he quits reading PFT, he is here for the comments section 🙂

  48. Attendance in Chicago? Chicago, which has not seen a single player protest?

    Yeah, I think Bears fans were really outraged over — wait, there were no protests. Maybe Bears fans stayed home because they wanted players that protest?

    Or maybe the idea of being outside in a storm to see one bad team (the Bears) play and even worse team (Carolina) wasn’t considered a good time?..

    Then look at the pictures from 4-5 NFL stadiums at kickoff yesterday…they are all over the internet

  49. Viewership and attendance are down because of the disrespect the NFL and the players show to the symbol of our country…..facts are stubborn things.

  50. It is proven that over 70 percent of the American people do not agree with the protests, or their reason for doing so. It is really nice to see the 20 some percent of people telling us how bad Trump is..2018 tick tick tick

  51. What a piece of trash presidency this is.

    Several members of my family have served and died for this country. All of them were men of integrity and fought the good fights of freedom.

    Today’s wars are no longer representative of that. They’re money wars abusing individuals raised on violence and aggression to take it out on something.

    Sad times we live in indeed.

    This issue is beyond pathetic and the lives of those that are lost look shamefully upon those that sit here and continue to banter about what you think this flag represents. FYI – it represents freedom. Freedom to speak and express and to think. This bashing that comes from the minority loud right is absurd and juvenile. It won’t get you guys far in the struggle for what’s right. Rightfully so, one day you will all have to face some version of actual reality and see your actions are a reflection of your inner turmoil or peace.

  52. Raidernation210, this is directed at you. Let see a DD214. By the way that is proof that someone has served in the military.
    All these snowflake patriots, hmm!

  53. Football players are still kneeling instead of being football players, and our president is still complaining about nonsense instead of being president. Move on.

  54. And one US president chose to get 5 deferments to keep from serving his country while those without their fathers financial resources went died for it. No leadership in the White House!

  55. Are people really still paying attention to this ridiculous kneeling? TV broadcasts don’t show it and correctly the announcers don’t mention it anymore. What should be more concerning is the lousy football that was displayed across the NFL this weekend. The product on the field, which is all I care about, is very low quality.

  56. Michael E says:
    October 23, 2017 at 10:56 am
    nj22 says:

    Yup They’re still kneeling and he’s still sucking at being a president.
    ================================================

    And NFL ratings and attendance is still plummeting.

    FACTS PLEASE?
    According to PFT, ratings are up, or did you miss that posting?

  57. The kneeling players are showing more respect than Mr. Five Draft Deferments. Trump won’t apologize for dispecting John McCain’s military service and said he isn’t a hero, but is upset that people are silently and respectfully kneeling? I’m not a fan of McCain, but you can’t deny that the man is the real deal.

  58. Doesn’t Don the con have any real work to do?
    Shouldn’t he be on twitter spreading lies,picking fights and insulting other celebrities and people serving in government,both here and abroad?? Maybe some private citizens too?? If you want to be embarrassed about something, start there. And for everyone crying about wanting to boycott the NFL, why don’t you just do it. The NFL has already said it isn’t going to force the issue, so there is your answer.

  59. The country is without leadership with you in office Donald. I wont call you Mr. Trump or President because you don’t deserve either of those dignities. YOU are a disgrace to our country and making a mockery out of the United States.

    Trump is a spoiled brat, who has been shunned from NFL Ownership for over 30 years. So he is using his “Presidential Platform” to get back at the NFL??? Instead of, you know, running the country?

  60. I saw this in a comment above

    “If they want to sit, kneel or stand on their heads on their own time, I don’t care. They have the right to do that on their personal time.”

    Don’t they have the right to sit during the national anthem? what if a deaf person can’t hear it so they aren’t standing? are you going to go after them for being deaf? are you going to go after someone who is paralyzed? Probably not, so why go after people that are just exercising their right to kneel or sit?

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