Hue Jackson says he still feels support from Browns owners at 1-23

AP

The Browns haven’t won this year, and only won once last year. And plenty of teams have used the break after a game in London to make changes in such situations.

But even if it wasn’t said specifically after their latest loss (to the Vikings, which dropped him to 1-23 there), Browns coach Hue Jackson said he felt like he had the support of owners Jimmy and Dee Haslam.

“I don’t think it was articulated here, but I still feel that,” Jackson said, via Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer. “I don’t sense — you guys would have to ask Jimmy that, but I totally have the support of Mr. and Mrs. Haslam. I don’t feel any change in that. I know everybody is concerned about the losing, my job, this — I mean, there’s all kinds of questions out there. I get all that.

“That’s never been what my thought process is (his job),” he said. “Mine is trying to get this team to be the best it can be, keep this coaching staff working hard, keep these players working hard, and that’s my charge. It can’t be anything else. But no, I totally feel like I still have their support.”

Of course, Haslam has made proclamations before that didn’t pan out, such as his preseason 2015 pledge not to flush General Manager Ray Farmer and coach Mike Pettine, and you’ll notice Jackson’s in his second season.

The Haslams were in attendance in London Sunday, but they were nearly the only ones.

Franchise fixture Joe Thomas missed his first game after triceps surgery, and top pick Myles Garrett was back home with a concussion. Coupled with the general lack of talent on the roster and a rookie quarterback they’ve already yanked at put back in, it was a hard spot to expect anyone to win in.

“Everything has got to be perfect,” Jackson said. “That’s where we are. Everything has got to be perfect for us to have a chance to win a football game. We get it, and our coaching staff gets it and our players get it, and we work that way. We try to do the best we can to get everything right, but we all know that’s not how football is played.

“You can’t be perfect, it’s still a game. You’re going to make mistakes and things are going to come up. Today we didn’t make as many, so we were in the game for quite a while. Then all of a sudden we don’t make some other plays I think we can make, and then the game flipped. That’s kind of been the story of where we are.”

So far, there’s no sign the Haslams are prepared to make (yet another) change. But it’s early yet, and 1-23 is still 1-23.

74 responses to “Hue Jackson says he still feels support from Browns owners at 1-23

  1. The Browns would have been better off hiring a random fan as Head Coach last year, or the transient guy that advised the owner to draft Johnny Football..I mean I know they couldn’t be worse than 1-23. What’s worse, 0-24?

    “Winning is a habit, unfortunately so is losing”.

    The Browns need Harbaugh or somebody from that Bo Schembechler coaching tree. First meeting they have with the Browns players they’ll give that ole speech:

    “We’re gonna win the division, and we’re gonna win it as a TEAM. They can throw out all those Great running backs, those great Quarterbacks, and those great defensive players across the league and in this division, but there’s gonna be ONE TEAM, that plays solely as a TEAM. No man is bigger than the TEAM, no coach is bigger than the TEAM. The TEAM, The TEAM, the TEAM,”

    Get Hue Jackson out of there. Get a old school REAL OHIO coach whose won’t tolerate losing.

  2. At 1-23 it Looks like Sashi with his “moneyball analytics” is not exactly the smartest guy in the room.

  3. Hue Jackson is a moron. Go look at how he handled his timeouts yesterday at the end of the 1st half – and tell me how that guy deserves to have a job.

    These NFL coaches get paid millions upon millions of dollars to live football – and yet my 12 year old son who plays Madden knows how to manage the clock better than 25 of them.

  4. Jackson is dealing with the hand he was dealt, he wanted Wentz and he wanted Watson if H00ker was gone by 12 …. The browns have built a “D” that is a top 10 “D”, now let them turn to the offense the next 2 drafts before we make a judgement

  5. .
    Doesn’t it seem almost unbelievable that Ohio, arguably our most football crazy state, has a team that has taken sports futility to a new low?
    .

  6. joetoronto says:

    October 30, 2017 at 7:15 am

    Things were finally looking up for the Browns and then they hired this turkey.
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    Nope, wrong again. Jackson is a good coach, he is better than the turkey you hired from Jacksonville, why he was run out of town. The problem with Cleveland is the front office. How about those Raiders yesterday??

  7. They made so many colossal blunders with their QB draft picks (the list of starting QBs has been well documented) that it seems they are gun shy now when it comes to taking a QB high in the draft. They passed on both Wentz and Watson for no reason other than they were scared. Scared to make a mistake. Might be time to send the team to St Louis and try again in 2 years…

  8. Jackson is doing his best with a bad situation. The team still focuses and plays hard even if their lack of talent makes everything an uphill battle. The critics seem to forget how bad this situation was and expect to see overnight miracles. The fact is that the only way out for the Browns is going to be via slow steady progress. Trying to shoot a magic bullet is likely to backfire and set them back, in fact that mistake has contributed to how far back they became.

    I dont know if Jackson will survive the rebuild or not. Even though I say patience is needed its understood thats not the NFL way. As far as feeling support, the way management works in any business is you feel support from them right up to the moment they call you in to tell you you are fired.

  9. federal indictments swirl around Haslam and his truck stop associates…..funneling the Browns salary cap allowances towards his business endeavours…..all those draft picks but not a single playmaker on offence….Hue unable to find his acorn.

  10. Cincinnati fans fear this:
    Marvin Lewis retires from coaching and becomes some sort of front office person for the Bengals.
    Then he goes and hires his good friend, the unemployed Hue Jackson to take over the Bengals.
    The Bengals would give him 5 years to go like 20-60…

  11. Hue is probably a really nice guy and has shown to be a great offensive coordinator multiple times but he just isn’t head coaching caliber in the NFL. He has been handicapped by a team that is in constant rebuilding mode and can’t draft their quarterback for any future. There is little need to make a mid-season change but come the end of this year the Browns need to get a game plan together for the next three to four years and start building….

  12. I don’t know who’s worse, Sashi or Hue, but for the good of the team, both of you quit !!!

  13. It took 8 games to put Kizer under center, where there is always a threat of run or pass, and it worked for a TD and then it disappeared again. I think Hue needs to coach at Baylor where he can run his stupid offense and lose 61-58.

  14. #factoryofsadness I can’t remember a more inept franchise, for this long, in my life time. And they have a good, loyal fan base.

  15. They may not fire him – unless he loses the locker room – for 4 notable reasons:
    1) As a 1yr HC of Oakland he did ok – yes only 8-8 but, at 3-2 lost his starting QB for the season.
    2) He had no say in much of the roster, a lot comes from the previous regime and the new stuff from VP Andrew Berry (who was the Colts chief scout under disasterous Grigson for 4yrs until Jan last year).
    3) Browns had too many HC changes, 8 HCs in 18yrs, maybe time to leave things be for a while.

    If things don’t start to pick up next year, his seat will be the hottest by mid Nov, but given his prior record is better than Berry’s, it could be Berry first.

  16. There could be some truth to this because it looks like Haslam is as much of a moron as Hue Jackson is crazy/incompetent. After all, this is the same owner who listened to a homeless guy’s advice and drafted Johnny Manziel.

    My Raiders have had a lot of bad results in recent years but I feel bad for Browns fans.

  17. Jackson is doing his best with a bad situation. The team still focuses and plays hard even if their lack of talent makes everything an uphill battle. The critics seem to forget how bad this situation was and expect to see overnight miracles. The fact is that the only way out for the Browns is going to be via slow steady progress. Trying to shoot a magic bullet is likely to backfire and set them back, in fact that mistake has contributed to how far back they became.
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    No one with any sense expected the Browns to make the playoffs this year. Just show some progress and win a few games. Hue has mishandled quite a few situations this year, including the QB situation. Hue gotta go.

  18. Next draft the Browns should take all their picks and draft every QB available. At least that way they might have a shot at a franchise QB….

  19. You can’t be this bad for this long without trying to be this bad for this long. Its football,not rocket science.

  20. “I don’t know who’s worse, Sashi or Hue”
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    I’m quite confident Sashi is worse. Hugh may not be cut out to be a head coach but he’s been around football forever and has done good things as an assistant. Sashi is an attorney who woke up one morning and somehow was in charge of an NFL front office. Zero experience and it shows.

  21. Oh, and the Raider fans are funny with the I told you so’s. Your team hired Jack Del Rio who is a moron and has a Super Bowl contender looking as bad as Cleveland with 10 times the talent.

  22. Jimmy – call Peyton up. Tell him money’s no object. Only team I get involved is when you hand me the Lombardi Trophy when we win it all. Peyton is your GM/Pres/Coach/whatever you want him to be. Bring his coaching/admin buddies in (Dungy, Polian, etc). Get winners in there – and build the Browns the right way. Not a fan – but it’s embarrassing and has to be demoralizing for the city and its fans.

  23. Mangini 10-22 (.313) Fired
    Shurmur 9-23 (.281) Fired
    Chudzinski 4-12 (.250) Fired
    Pettine 10-22 (.313) Fired
    Jackson 1-23 (.043) Present HC

    Jackson has done demonstrably WORSE than the last 4 Browns head coaches and those guys had embarrassingly few wins. I am all for stability and moving forward together but Hue Jackson is NOT the guy to do it with. Even in Oakland, his team started 7-4 but then missed the playoffs with an 8-8 record. Browns fans deserve better. Starting over again would suck but I believe they should abandon the money ball guys, hire a qualified football guy as GM, let him hire a new HC and then attack the draft full of picks by choosing guys that fill a need in the new system. They also have some cash to hire sold veterans ahead of the draft. It can be fixed fairly quickly but not with the management/coaches they have now.

  24. “YOU ARE WHAT YOUR RECORD SAYS YOU ARE.” Bill Belichek. P.S. Why did they get rid of Osweiler AND keep his compensation package? Feel bad for loyal Browns fans. They’re being ripped off.

  25. Watched the game yesterday, first time to observe the Browns. Gotta say they just don’t look that bad. A play here or there seems to define their losses, which doesn’t necessarily fall on the coach. Their defense is good and they just need some consistency on offense.

  26. mrbigass says:
    October 30, 2017 at 9:46 am
    Next draft the Browns should take all their picks and draft every QB available. At least that way they might have a shot at a franchise QB….

    I elect you as their GM…that’s a smart move.

  27. I never thought I’d say this but Sashi Brown is even worse than Matt Millen was. It’s time to ditch the moneyball approach and get rid of everyone in the front office and replace them with people who actually know a little something about how to run a football team. Until they do that the Browns will continue to have streaks like 1-23. Pathetic.

  28. How long does the NFL just sit quietly and watch while a dumb, incompetent owner makes bad GM and coaching appointments one after another? It must be clear to everyone by now that while Jimmy Haslam is a billionaire, he hasn’t got a clue what he is doing at the Browns. It is in the NFL’s best interests for Cleveland to be competitive (i.e. win some games). I genuinely feel for all Browns fans who have to endure season after season of complete incompetence from the very top.

  29. As a Raider fan, I saw it firsthand years ago: Hue is a very good OC, but not a good HC. He’s a little too wacky which is kinda what you want in a creative OC but you need a more steady, cool presence that’s not prone to rash decisions as an HC. His QB rotation this year shows that. Stick with Kizer and see if he grows into the job or else you’re looking at Darnold at the top of the draft.

  30. What if Greg Williams took over as head coach? Better?

    PS – Moneyball is a failure. Can’t win without playmakers.

  31. bonitalocal says:
    October 30, 2017 at 11:18 am

    1 and effing 23!?!?!?

    Who were the sap-suckers that they beat….I don’t remember.
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    I think it was the Chargers.

  32. ihavenoeyedeer – this wouldn’t be “change for the sake of change”. Hue was supposed to change the culture, instead he’s been absolutely clueless at every turn and fed into the culture of hopelessness even deeper than ever. He was supposed to devise systems to overcome deficiencies and hand pick talent to mold, instead he’s helped spearhead personnel decisions that have set this franchise back YEARS when they were already desperately behind.

    Even listening to him talk week after week, you can see he’s overwhelmed. He’s lost. He doesn’t have answers. He looks defeated. Even going back to last year early in the season, when they were getting ready to play the Pats in Brady’s first game back. He wasn’t talking about being excited for the challenge, or seeing how they stack up against the best, nothing like that. It was basically like “oh well, we’re gonna get beat bad this week”.

    This guy doesn’t have the answers. He’s in over his head. He wrote off Carson Wentz as a bust then turned around to boast Bob the 3rd as the guy to carry his offense for years to come. Even for as low as the expectations have been for the Browns the last couple years, he’s still finding ways to come in underneath them.

    Hue is just not a good HC. Simple as that.

  33. I believe him… I mean who else are they gonna hire? The real mystery here is how in the hell Marvin Lewis continues to keep his job.

  34. jimmylikesthat says:
    October 30, 2017 at 8:46 am
    It’s not like they had Bellichick and then fired him…or did they?
    ******************************************************************

    Actually, it was Art Modell who fired Belichick after he moved the Browns and created the Ratbirds.

  35. whyamiacowboysfanagain says:
    October 30, 2017 at 12:54 pm
    I believe him… I mean who else are they gonna hire? The real mystery here is how in the hell Marvin Lewis continues to keep his job.

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    Ya told my wife, if the Colts kick a winning field goal Marvin is a dead man walking. But he survived again. The Bengals are god awful and that red headed QB is a dork.

  36. The question is why did they fire Mike Pettine? I believe Pettine had the team headed in the right direction with less talent on the roster than Hue Jackson has now. The Browns need to draft a QB next year (they better draft a good one!) and then develop him. I’m not sure Hue is the right guy to do that. They may want to see if they can get John Defillipo back to Cleveland as HC or, at least, O Coordinator. It is tough to keep churning Head Coaches, but they have to do better on offense than what they have been doing the past 2 years under Jackson.

  37. Have we ever considered that the Browns, in any current or past iteration, are just cursed? I mean, Bill freaking Belichick couldn’t do anything with them! What make us think anyone else even has a chance?

  38. The Cleveland Dog Piles’ owners have no reason to field a winning team – they get their share of the television revenue and they don’t have a big payroll – these fools make money on putting forth the worst product in NFL history.

  39. “Jimmy – call Peyton up. Tell him money’s no object. ”

    Hilarious, Manning is worth over 250 million, he doesn’t care about money any more.

    Secondly, Haslam is a con man who is working Cleveland fans now since his Pilot FlyingJ scam got busted. 41 million under the cap, a whopping 63 million this year. That’s why the team sucks, not the coaching. If you think that guy is going to open the vaults for Manning you’re dreaming. Money is the one and only “object” Haslam cares about.

  40. “6ball says:
    October 30, 2017 at 8:42 am

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    Doesn’t it seem almost unbelievable that Ohio, arguably our most football crazy state, has a team that has taken sports futility to a new low?”

    Not if you remember who the NFL owners awarded the expansion franchise to in 1998, and who the owners allowed the team to be sold to in 2011. It wasn’t anyone from Ohio, or with much football knowledge.

  41. I love that the players play hard for Hugh but he better step it up in the in game coaching aspect. He’s made a lot of questionable decisions so far that’s cost them a few wins.

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