Belichick on Garoppolo trade: We rode it out as long as we could

AP

Patriots coach Bill Belichick didn’t wait to be asked any of the obvious questions that were waiting for him on a Tuesday morning conference call.

Belichick opened with a long statement about the decision to trade quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo to the 49ers. Belichick said he has a “tremendous amount of respect” for Garoppolo and that the 49ers are getting a “good quarterback” who the Patriots would have liked to keep on the roster.

Belichick said he couldn’t find any feasible way to make that happen, however, and wanted to make a trade before Tuesday afternoon’s deadline because it was their last chance to do so.

“We probably had in my mind, in my opinion, the best quarterback situation in the league for the last 2.5 years,” Belichick said. “It is just not sustainable given the way that things are set up. Definitely not something we wanted to walk away from and I felt we rode it out as long as we could. We’ve, over a period of time, explored every option possible to sustain it but, at this point, it felt like we had to make a decision. It’s a very complex situation on multiple levels. This is really the last window that we had and we did what we felt was best for the team.”

Belichick said that there were “fair questions” to ask about the way the trade came together and the conversations they had about dealing Garoppolo, but that he wouldn’t be talking about the process. He also said he wouldn’t discuss any other potential roster moves as the team now has one quarterback on the roster and will presumably be bringing someone in to back up Tom Brady.

65 responses to “Belichick on Garoppolo trade: We rode it out as long as we could

  1. When it became obvious they couldn’t get a deal done beyond this year Belichick kept his insurance policy as long as he could then sold as high as he could to an NFC team that isn’t going to let Garoppolo get away to avoid strengthening an AFC competitor. Obviously there was an agreement on releasing Hoyer included. The Niners got their potential franchise QB and Belichick controlled where he went and got a higher pick than he probably would have in a tag and trade deal after the season. Good deal for NE under the circumstances and a great deal for SF, they get to test drive Garoppolo for the rest of the season.

  2. No matter who was the back-up, the Pats would not win the Superbowl (all that matters to this winning organization) if Brady is out so who is back-up i irrelevant.

    BB realized that and made the best move for the future of the Pats (though, in truth, a pass rusher would have been a better addition).

  3. The lesson here for the Patriots Fans is just how hard it is to find a franchise QB. Brady is the GOAT and Mallett, Brissett and Garapolo are examples of how short all of them fall compared to him. Some teams like the Packers get 2 of them (Favre and Rogers), but most never get one at all. Enjoy the ride… it does eventually end. Sadly, says every 49ers (Montana), Dolphins (Marino), Cowboys (Aikman) Colts and Broncos (Manning x2) fan.

  4. The real winner is Jimmy G. Some team will pay him big bucks in a few months no matter what happens the rest of this season. If he flops he now has the excuse of playing for a rebuilding team.

  5. For kicks, to annoy the NFL, I’d love to see them sign Kaepernick. And I actually could see them doing it (though I suspect Hoyer will be signed).

    Could also see them taking a chance with Griffin III.

  6. Two thoughts, if the unthinkable happens and #12 goes down next game does Belichick have the cajones to bring in Kaep? Will Kraft break ranks?

  7. In other words, Garoppolo wanted more money than they were willing to give him. I bet the Niners won’t be so reluctant, especially if he plays well.

  8. Well, give Belichick credit. When Hoyer is signed as Brady’s backup, this will essentially become a QB swap with a second round pick thrown in for the Patriots.

    Of course this also depends on two things: Garoppolo playing well for San Francisco, and neither father time nor injury effecting Tom Brady.

  9. Translation: Garropolo struggled through training camp in year 3, he got injured in his second start, and couldn’t even beat the 40 year old starter. We don’t think he is the long term solution. Back to the drawing board.

  10. As clearly and as logically as BB addressed the situation, some still seem to think there was some sort of conspiracy involved with the trade? WOW.

  11. They probably could’ve gotten more for him from the Browns. But I don’t understand why an 0-8 team would give up a 2nd-round pick for a QB. It’s too late to save this season. Just go after a guy in the draft with the top pick, or find one in free agency.

  12. GomersTeabag says:
    October 31, 2017 at 12:35 pm
    Two thoughts, if the unthinkable happens and #12 goes down next game does Belichick have the cajones to bring in Kaep…
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    I think we have seen enough of Belichick through the years to know he has the cajones to make any transaction that he believes could help the team.

  13. whenwilliteverend says:
    October 31, 2017 at 12:38 pm
    In other words, Garoppolo wanted more money than they were willing to give him. I bet the Niners won’t be so reluctant, especially if he plays well.

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    Of course. With Brady on the roster it would be nuts to give Garrapolo starter pay at his market value, in todays market he can get more than Brady currently gets.. And likewise it would be nuts for JG to accept backup pay considering what his market value is. It’s no knock on either side that they couldn’t bring that together.

  14. Belichick is a great football man, but he really blew this one. The Patriots were reportedly offered a top ten (top five?) pick in the 2017 draft for Garoppolo, but now will slide into Round 2 because “we rode it out as long as we could”. That was an expensive ride, especially knowing that the closer they waited to the trading deadline the less they were going to get. This trade was inevitable, so why not sell at peak value? As Branch Rickey said, it is better to make a trade too early than too late. That having been stated, Belichick is still the smartest guy in the league.

  15. 2nd round pick for a guy you may only have for 7 games (Not playing this week) is a TON of compensation. Unless they worked something out Jimmy G becomes a free agent at the beginning of the 2018 calendar. To expect more is probably not very realistic.

  16. Mary773 says:

    October 31, 2017 at 12:59 pm

    Belichick is a great football man, but he really blew this one. The Patriots were reportedly offered a top ten (top five?) pick in the 2017 draft for Garoppolo, but now will slide into Round 2 because “we rode it out as long as we could”. That was an expensive ride, especially knowing that the closer they waited to the trading deadline the less they were going to get. This trade was inevitable, so why not sell at peak value? As Branch Rickey said, it is better to make a trade too early than too late. That having been stated, Belichick is still the smartest guy in the league.
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    I’ve never seen any actual reports of this. Its been mostly talk radio fodder. If the Pats really turned down 1st round offers in April then they blew it. If those offers never came, then this is a good deal. Jimmy is going to get Osweiller money and the Pats cannot do that. Plus Brady has at least one more year in the tank. 49ers 2nd rounder is likely 33-34th overall, pretty close to where Pats usually have their 1st round pick, and you don’t have to pay 1st round money. Pretty good deal in a salary cap era.

  17. They probably could’ve gotten more for him from the Browns. But I don’t understand why an 0-8 team would give up a 2nd-round pick for a QB. It’s too late to save this season. Just go after a guy in the draft with the top pick, or find one in free agency.
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    I’m guessing they liked Jimmy more than Sam Darnold and/or Josh Rosen.. or Josh Allen.. whomever.

    And when you consider they may have added their franchise QB, and STILL have a shot at say, Saquon Barkley or Derwin James, its rather easy to argue this trade.

  18. The Patriots were reportedly offered a top ten (top five?) pick in the 2017 draft for Garoppolo
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    Operative word there… “reportedly”….

  19. blah773 says:
    October 31, 2017 at 12:40 pm
    tick, tock, tick, tock… the cliff is coming. soon.
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    LOL. Brady at 40 is not just an ok QB but after 8 games is 2017’s leading passer, a whole game (360yds) ahead of 2nd place Smith. Yes he won’t last forever, and yes any QB’s career could end the next play, but Moon played good well into his 40s and when you look at Moon, and other great past QBs like Peyton and Montana, their last couple of years showed diminishing returns. Brady is under contract til 2020 (and may play a year or 2 after). So even if he started to decline tomorrow, there’s time enough to combine those top picks and reach up in what is expected to be a very good QB draft class – and 2 years to put that draftee through the Pats’ respected QB program.

  20. They were willing to pay him well—if not starter money, then close to it—to stay behind Brady. The problem was that they couldn’t give him the thing he (understandably) most wants: the chance to play.

  21. aarons444 says:
    October 31, 2017 at 1:11 pm
    “The Patriots were reportedly offered a top ten (top five?) pick in the 2017 draft for Garoppolo”
    Operative word there… “reportedly”….
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    Aye, but it could well all be true: Trading JimmyG now still bags a high 2nd instead of a high 1st, so it’s just that Belichick probably figured in March because he really liked JimmyG it was worth far more than 30 draft spots to simply hold onto him for another half a season as a potential franchise replacement insurance in case Brady got injured. Straightforward enough explanation.

  22. golions1 says:

    October 31, 2017 at 12:34 pm

    Sign Kaepernick today. cut him Saturday. Sign Hoyer on Saturday.
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    BRILLIANT! Do it! lol

  23. All I know is, in my humble amateur opinion, Garoppolo is one of the very best QB prospects I’ve seen in over 50 years of being a football fan. I actually envy Niners fans out there. I think they just snagged a guy worth two or more 1st Round Picks, when all is said and done. The Pats did the right thing – if money and contracts were a moot point, I am convinced they would have loved to hand the keys to Garoppolo after Brady retires; of course, Brady seems to be intent on playing for 4-5 more years, and Garoppolo would never have waited that long to have a team of his own. I predict many Pro Bowls and a Super Bowl or more for Garoppolo. Wish my Vikings had found a way to get him, because this is what a true franchise QB looks like. Watch what he does next year. It may be historically great, despite the lack of talent on his new team at this point. I bet they go out and package some Picks to get at least one veteran OL-man before long, and then will build quickly through the Draft now that they have the centerpiece.

  24. GomersTeabag says:
    October 31, 2017 at 12:35 pm

    Two thoughts, if the unthinkable happens and #12 goes down next game does Belichick have the cajones to bring in Kaep? Will Kraft break ranks?
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    They brought Tebow in, so anything is possible, though not likely.

  25. Gotta hand it to Coach B. Knew he had 2 serviceable starters behind his HOF QB and gave both of them a chance to start elsewhere. The hoodie continues to show that no only is he the greatest coach for the better part of 2 decades but also a decent human being.

  26. “As clearly and as logically as BB addressed the situation, some still seem to think there was some sort of conspiracy involved with the trade? ”

    Lolz that’s because most of the people obsessed with hating the Pats have the collective intelligence of a mentally deficient chipmunk.

  27. The Pats and Belichick needed to “kick the tires” on a 40 yo Brady before giving away Garapolo, Brady proved he is still top 2-3 QB and probably has at least 3 years. The Edleman injury made them pull the trigger on Brisset for a receiver, JB proves he can be starter while Jimmy G is holding the clipboard with no end sight. He instructs his agent to tell the Pats he wants out, Pats option to franchise him @ 24 mil was no viable!
    Good luck JG you will be missed, no more than 2 wins please!

  28. For the position the Patriots are/were in I think they came out of this pretty good. We’ll know in 3 or 4 years if Jimmy G. is the next Brady and if he is then they’ll wish they paid he and Brady just to have kept him. But we’ll see how good he turns out when he’s not on the Pats.

    But right now and for the foreseeable future while Brady is still there all Belichick has done was trade his backup for their backup (if they get Hoyer)or any other backup and came away with a top of the 2nd round pick as well.

  29. Unless the Pats make a big move to acquire a legitimate backup for Brady by Sunday, his 40 year old knees, arms and collarbone become the biggest targets for pass rushers.

  30. blah773 says:
    October 31, 2017 at 12:40 pm
    tick, tock, tick, tock… the cliff is coming. soon.

    _____

    Won’t make your team any better……

  31. How do NFL coaches and GMs not know at this point that if you trade with Bill Belichick you will most certainly get the short end of the stick?

  32. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:

    October 31, 2017 at 12:47 pm

    Translation: Garropolo struggled through training camp in year 3, he got injured in his second start, and couldn’t even beat the 40 year old starter. We don’t think he is the long term solution. Back to the drawing board.

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    Uh no, just no.

    Real translation: Pats knew Garrapolo wanted to start and wasn’t signing long term after this year, so the only way to keep him was to franchise him at $20mil plus a year. That is too much for a backup obviously. And that 40yr old QB? Its hard to beat the GOAT.

  33. tick, tock, tick, tock… the cliff is coming. soon.

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    5 rings in and with a 40 year-old QB and skippy here is making courageous predictions. What a man.

  34. “wib22 says:
    October 31, 2017 at 2:35 pm

    Belicheat knows he’s toast without Brady so he doesn’t care about the future”
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    Didn’t you call Brady the ‘2 yards Tom’ not so long ago?

  35. averagjoe says:
    October 31, 2017 at 1:48 pm
    Unless the Pats make a big move to acquire a legitimate backup for Brady by Sunday, his 40 year old knees, arms and collarbone become the biggest targets for pass rushers.
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    Two Sundays – the Pats have a bye this week.

    On the surface this was a very good deal for the Pats, even though by not trading JG preseason to the Browns, according to Lombardy, they passed on a much better outcome – a first & second.

    I’m giving BB the benefit of the doubt here. By waiting I think he acceded to the best deals that benefited Jimmy G, J Brissett and the Pats collectively. I want to believe it was payback for their help in winning SB LVI, and for that I forgive BB for trading Collins and not retaining Blount. Okay, so tell us who Nick Caserio has waiting in the wings? Caserio IMO is the best front office guy in the league for finding talent.

    It’s going to be fun watching all three QBs competing against each other. They will always be considered Patriots around here.

  36. The theory I subscribe to is Belichick was ready to move on from Brady and keep JG after this year. Kraft said no. JG is gonna be a star and it was clear in BB conference call he hated to give him up.

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