Panthers send Kelvin Benjamin to Buffalo

AP

The Panthers and Bills have made a number of deals, which is expected since the General Managers used to work together.

But nothing about this one was #asexpected.

According to Adam Schefter of ESPN, the Panthers have traded wide receiver Kelvin Benjamin to the Bills for a third- and a seventh-round pick.

It’s not that Benjamin hasn’t been productive, it’s that the Panthers don’t have very many options in the passing game. Without him, they’ll lean on Devin Funchess and a group of younger, smaller players. Then again, interim General Manager Marty Hurney doesn’t have the same fascination with size that his predecessor (Dave Gettleman) did, so getting faster might help.

The Panthers had previously picked up the 2018 option on the former first-rounder’s contract, which will be worth around $8.5 million.

The Bills were equally short on targets, after trading Sammy Watkins earlier in the year and watching Anquan Boldin retire on them. And with Bills G.M. Brandon Beane knowing his personnel (he was Hurney and Gettleman’s former assistant), it makes sense.

The two teams have already passed wide receiver Kaelin Clay back and forth, and several former Panthers have made their way north with Beane and coach Sean McDermott.

87 responses to “Panthers send Kelvin Benjamin to Buffalo

  1. I don’t get Carolina’s logic making this trade. They’re just half a game out of first place in their division and can easily make their way to the playoffs this season.

  2. Welcome back to the Marty Hurney nightmare.

    Thanks for all the highlights KB – you’ll always be a Panther here in Charlotte

  3. Ummmmm…..on the surface this looks like a steal for the Bills….. I like the move he fits in the offense we are trying to run. Take a few games to acclimate, but Go Bills!!

  4. Thank God. Now he doesn’t have a QB with multiple personalities throwing him the ball. Happy, sad, grumpy, crabby, giddy, Superman, dabber…make up your mind dude.

  5. I really Have no idea what the Panthers were thinking. It’s not like their season is shot, they still have a chance to win the division. And needless to say their wr’s are highly suspect

  6. It is crazy when you have watched a team make so many wrong moves and lose so many games you wonder what the “catch” is. The Bills are 5-2.. they just traded an extra sack of beans for one of the best WR in the game… hmmmm. something must be about to go terribly wrong.

  7. Great Deal for the Bills.

    Question is though, will Tyrod throw to him a lot b/c Tyrod usually will only pull the trigger if a guy is wide open? Getting Wide Open is NOT Benjamin’s game. Benjamin’s game is like playing Power Forward, using positioning and his size to keep defenders off of him.

  8. .
    Benjamin had 4 catches for 104 yards vs the Patriots. It certainly helps Buffalo who have two games left vs New England. But will do little for the Panthers who will be receiving a pick near #90. Is Carolina tanking?
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  9. Feel like there is something that the Panthers know that no one else does…this trade doesn’t make much sense for a team that is still more than in the hunt.
    Maybe Cam hates him? Maybe he’s a cancer in the locker room? Maybe he smells? I’m sure that is it. He smells.

  10. the bills think kelvin benjamin is a promising young pup whos abt to be a big dog. the panthers think hes damaged goods to be sold for scraps.
    we dont what the truth is but i know how to find out – tune in to the Nfl on sundays over the next couple years haha!

  11. has there ever been a season where this many teams that are still in contention seemingly threw in the towel at the trade deadline?

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    Like who? The Texans trading Duane Brown? Miami trading Jay Ajayi? I don’t think either team has thrown in the towel – or was much of a contender…

  12. Surprised a little by the trade, but Panthers needed to do something. When he and Funchess are out there, they just don’t have enough speed. Not sure what Gettleman was thinking not re-signing Ted Ginn. Now he’s blowing by people with a divisional rival. It’s not a coincindece that the offense was all-world two years ago with Benjamin sidelined by an injury. I guess now Samuel will get more time. Kind of scary, but it’ll be fun to watch either way.

  13. Head scratching trade by the Panthers, unless of course they simply don’t care about this season. Isn’t it only week #9 and aren’t the Panthers currently the NFC 6th Seed?

  14. cmtumd says:
    October 31, 2017 at 4:43 pm
    has there ever been a season where this many teams that are still in contention seemingly threw in the towel at the trade deadline?

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    Once the Patriots started having their feet back under them it started to look pointless to the rest.

  15. Definitely strange, but keep in mind the Panthers went 15-1 with KB just two years ago.

    Expect a heavy dose of Stewart and Artis-Payne; with McCafrey officially making his move to receiver.

  16. cmtumd says:
    October 31, 2017 at 4:43 pm
    has there ever been a season where this many teams that are still in contention seemingly threw in the towel at the trade deadline?

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    Once the Patriots started having their feet back under them it started to look pointless to the rest.

    Except apparently the Bills.

  17. Crazy trade. It doesn’t seem like Carolina got much back for him. I have to think that Chicago would’ve paid more but my guess this was an inside trade.

  18. Cam Newton was the 2015 NFL MVP without Benjamin. He’s underachieved 2 out of 3 seasons in the league. This isn’t quite the shocker that it seems for those that follow the team closely. Still, a 2nd round pick might have made this one feel a bit better.

  19. There’s a new sheriff in town boys….and his name is Brandon Beane.

    And it happens on the 30th anniversary of the blockbuster trade to get Cornelius Bennett….WOW!!!!e!!!

  20. Can’t wait to see how pats fans feel about Gilmore when KB smokes him.
    At the end of the day the bills got Jordan Matthews and Benjamin for Ronald Darby, I’ll take it.
    Changing of the guard is happening

  21. I liked KB but he’s been an underachiever after his rookie year. A lot of his stats were garbage yards when they were too far behind to make a difference, although it is painful to see him go for next to nothing…

  22. spillertime21 says:
    October 31, 2017 at 5:27 pm
    Can’t wait to see how pats fans feel about Gilmore when KB smokes him.
    At the end of the day the bills got Jordan Matthews and Benjamin for Ronald Darby, I’ll take it.
    Changing of the guard is happening

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    KB will never smoke Gilmore. Ever.

    (because Gilmore will be benched first.)

  23. On the surface this looks like a win for Buffalo; however, Benjamin isn’t really the “rock solid” receiver he is cracked-up to be. Examine his cold weather game splits and you will see that he is dreadful.

    2016 December splits show only a 36% catch rate over four games and 2014 (he missed all of 2015) December splits show a 45.7% catch rate, also over four games.

    Look through his gamelogs and there are just to many games in the 20-35% catch range.. especially in the second half of the season.

  24. greenbaysucks says:
    October 31, 2017 at 4:46 pm
    Feel like there is something that the Panthers know that no one else does…this trade doesn’t make much sense for a team that is still more than in the hunt.
    Maybe Cam hates him?

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    Likely – the only person Cam likes is Cam.

  25. I’m a local Panther fan…here’s the deal:

    – KB and Devon Funchess are basically the same player, you don’t need two of them
    – Cam’s best season came without KB
    – KB recently lost his mom and apparently is having trouble moving on from it
    – showing up overweight to camp didn’t help
    – this move gives Curtis Samuel a chance to finally extend the field
    – KB was sometimes considered Cam’s “safety blanket”, meaning Cam wouldn’t look for other open guys

    So basically, addition by subtraction was the motive for the Panthers. Will it work out? We’ll see, but it’s not like the offense could get much worse.

  26. You can argue about how good Benjamin is, but before adding him the Bills had the worst WR group in the league. They have nothing to lose. Draft picks are so OVERRATED by GMs.

    The Bills still have two 1st, two 2nds and another 3rd in the 2018 draft. They still have FIVE picks in the top 100. They just spent one of their two 3rd round picks (which will be a mid-to late round pick)for Benjamin. They spent a 2nd in this year’s draft for Zay Jones. Even if Benjamin is a rental it doesn’t hurt the Bills whatsoever.

  27. billsthicknthin says:
    October 31, 2017 at 6:26 pm
    You can argue about how good Benjamin is, but before adding him the Bills had the worst WR group in the league. They have nothing to lose. Draft picks are so OVERRATED by GMs.

    The Bills still have two 1st, two 2nds and another 3rd in the 2018 draft. They still have FIVE picks in the top 100. They just spent one of their two 3rd round picks (which will be a mid-to late round pick)for Benjamin. They spent a 2nd in this year’s draft for Zay Jones. Even if Benjamin is a rental it doesn’t hurt the Bills whatsoever.

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    I am going to disagree. Chicago had and still has the worst WR group. I am surprised they didn’t outbid Buffalo but my guess is they were never notified he was on the market.

  28. Wow, as a Panthers fan i definitely didn’t see this coming, but honestly i don’t think i’ll miss him too much. Ran such lazy lazy routes. He couldn’t stretch the field deep, and wasn’t great at getting open on short / intermediate routes. The guy has no technique and i don’t think there’s much work ethic either. With a contract and likely hefty raise being due, yeah. Good riddance. Wasn’t gonna be worth the long term pay day and wasn’t doing much right now anyways. This offense can be too slow and clunky with him and Funchess and an older slower Stewart, so maybe this opens the door for younger and hungrier (on the field, not off it like Benjamin) receivers to step up and get involved, and maybe now we can start using Samuel the way he should be used, stetching the field out wide to open space for the rest underneath like Ginn did in 2015

    We need a jolt, we need some new blood, and we need guys who want to do more than just show up. He wasn’t gonna be worth the money, he didn’t seem to take his job seriously, might as well move on.

    And to that guy who called him “one of the best receivers in the game” lol, i’ve watched every game he’s played and been a fan of his from the start, that is just absurd to refer to him as “one of the best”.

  29. Peoples Republic of PFT says:
    October 31, 2017 at 6:09 pm
    “…so getting faster might help.”

    How do a 3rd and 7th make you faster?

    It makes you faster by getting Samuel and even Clay on the field more. Benjamin was so lazy and painful to watch sometimes. For every highlight of a cool catch you can think of, there’s 20 plays where he completely loafed and failed to create separation and gave Cam nowhere to throw and led to a bad scramble or sack, etc.

    Yeah 1st rd pick, yeah some cool ESPN highlights once in awhile. Other than that, he’s more loaf than star. I tried to like the guy but watching him fail to grasp the nuances of his position because he can just show up and rely strictly on his size makes it hard to miss him too much. Some of the best Panthers offense in the last few years has come without him on the field.

  30. I’m a local Panther fan…here’s the deal:

    – KB and Devon Funchess are basically the same player, you don’t need two of them
    – Cam’s best season came without KB
    – KB recently lost his mom and apparently is having trouble moving on from it
    – showing up overweight to camp didn’t help
    – this move gives Curtis Samuel a chance to finally extend the field
    – KB was sometimes considered Cam’s “safety blanket”, meaning Cam wouldn’t look for other open guys

    So basically, addition by subtraction was the motive for the Panthers. Will it work out? We’ll see, but it’s not like the offense could get much worse.

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    – Cam’s best season came without KB – Who on the team is going to fill the role of Philly Brown and Ginn? Yes they dropped passes but they had the ability to run an NFL route and get open.

    – this move gives Curtis Samuel a chance to finally extend the field – If Samuel could get open don’t you think they would have had him run 1 go route in each of the 1st 8 games…I hope I’m wrong but my bet is Samuels lack of targets are because he has no clue how to play the position and is a very expensive “project” at the 40th overalll pick.

    – showing up overweight to camp didn’t help – Showed up for offseason workout at about 270…he was 243 when Camp started.

  31. Hurney is a dumb you know what and this trade makes no sense at all and it will help the Bills and the Panthers are hurting for quality wide receivers. They only receiver they have is on IR. The offense is terrible and will now get worse if that is possible. Hurney is an idiot and a one man wrecking crew and he has already given away a valuable kicker to the KC Chiefs and got nothing more him. We have idiots minding the store in Carolina and they are selling this team out?? One of the poorest offenses in the NFL and they continue to give away players and get nothing for them. Go figure?

  32. That trade was needed. We all have been watching how long Cam has had to hold the ball waiting for our WRs to try to get separation and ends up taking the sack. We still have Funchess as a big target but we need a WR that can get open.

  33. Not so fast! The offense has been more productive without Benjamin. That’s just fact. As a matter of fact, the year of the 15-1 record and a Super Bowl appearance, KB blew out a, ACL in camp. He has not been the WR1 we needed.

    He’s been serviceable, but never a start that matched his draft spot. BREAKING: Gettleman’s last pick was McCaffrey, who leads the league in catches for a RB, but a paltry 7.7 ypc and 2.4 ypc rushing. I hope KB helps Buffalo, moreover I hope he works harder than he did in Charlotte. NOTE:The two front offices are friends. There is an inside reason.

  34. Can I just say, that this is the best thing to happen to… Zay Jones. Seriously, there is now a “top dawg” out there, specifically with Clay out still. He can loosen up a bit, and now with an actual outside receiver to start pulling coverages, he can get some really good 1on1 looks. Seriously, the way the kid has been getting open of late(Tampa and Oakland), I want to see him explode. Nobody has been giving him credit as a deep threat, but watch the film. KB can play the power game, and Zay can get on his horse and run.

  35. As a Patriots fan, I’m getting a little nervous. The Patriots are temporarily vulnerable — and the Bills have the tools. They remind me of the 2001 Patriots. Savor this season, Bills fans. If the Pats fall, I’ll be rooting for you.

  36. I’m not sure if he was distracted or what, but he just hasn’t looked like the same receiver as he was in his rookie year. He looks like he lost speed and agility. At times though that could be a mental funk a new situation might remedy.

    Or maybe he just lost something from that ACL tear.

    Not a fan of either team, but I hope he does well for Buffalo.

  37. The Panthers have made a lot of mistakes lately.

    Letting McDermott walk instead of promoting him and firing Rivera and Shula. I was never happy about that.

    Letting Brandon Beane walk instead of promoting him when they were obviously suffering a disconnect with Gettleman, who was shortly after fired and replaced by an old relic like Marty Hurney who was fired in the first place for leaving this team in a cap constricted nightmare. Just bad foresight.

    Keeping Gano as the starting kicker and trying to stash the younger better kicker Butker on the practice squad and letting him get snatched away. I was actually pretty mad when i saw Gano making the final roster over him.

    Retaining Shula who consistently calls the most predictable plays at the most predictable times and can never scheme his players into position to manufacture offense. He should be long gone.

    But moving on from a lazy distracted inconsistent WR who was gonna be due a big raise that he wasn’t worth? Meh. Oh well. Best of luck to him, moving on!

  38. For a 3rd and a toss away 7th Ill take a shot on him……young, gonna be back in contract year next year good signing….. downside limited..good risk reward plain as that.

  39. halfcentaur says:
    October 31, 2017 at 11:58 pm

    The Panthers have made a lot of mistakes lately.

    Letting McDermott walk instead of promoting him and firing Rivera and Shula. I was never happy about that.

    Letting Brandon Beane walk instead of promoting him when they were obviously suffering a disconnect with Gettleman, who was shortly after fired and replaced by an old relic like Marty Hurney who was fired in the first place for leaving this team in a cap constricted nightmare. Just bad foresight.

    Keeping Gano as the starting kicker and trying to stash the younger better kicker Butker on the practice squad and letting him get snatched away. I was actually pretty mad when i saw Gano making the final roster over him.

    Retaining Shula who consistently calls the most predictable plays at the most predictable times and can never scheme his players into position to manufacture offense. He should be long gone.

    But moving on from a lazy distracted inconsistent WR who was gonna be due a big raise that he wasn’t worth? Meh. Oh well. Best of luck to him, moving on!
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    I have said all of this and agree with you 100%. Every single thing you said is seriously so spot on. Well done. Nice to see someone else on here that actually understands football.

  40. KB was struggling. The Panther offense is struggling. Move might be good for all. Let’s wait and see before declaring winners and losers. Remember how everyone thought the Patriots “stole” Kony Ealy?

  41. Definitely strange, but keep in mind the Panthers went 15-1 with KB just two years ago.

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    Actually, they did that without him. He was injured the whole year.

  42. Benjamin is like a randomly generated WR in future Madden draft class that was huge, but not too fast, and projected as a late round pick. You could drat him late and move him to TE and his overall would jump significantly. Same goes for moving “slow” OLBs to DE, it worked every time. Too bad real life is not always like Madden.

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