Report: Browns failed to get A.J. McCarron trade to league in time

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When the first report of a near-trade that would have sent quarterback A.J. McCarron from the Bengals to the Browns broke on Tuesday, word was that the two sides came “close” to agreeing on the deal but couldn’t get it finalized before the deadline.

It appears to be a bit more complicated than that. Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that the Bengals believed the deal was done five minutes ahead of the 4 p.m. ET deadline and notified the league of their intent to send McCarron to their division rivals. Jim Owczarski of the Cincinnati Enquirer reports that the Bengals were set to receive 2018 second- and third-round picks.

The Browns did not do the same, however. Per Schefter, their notification of the trade came moments too late — shades of Elvis Dumervil and the fax machine of doom in 2013 — and the league did not approve the deal. The Browns protested that ruling, but the NFL did not agree to put the deal through so McCarron remains with the Bengals.

Browns coach Hue Jackson reportedly wanted Jimmy Garoppolo, who was dealt to the 49ers on Monday, and presumably was a driver in a bid for McCarron after coaching him for two years with the Bengals. At the moment, though, the quarterbacks in Cleveland are still DeShone Kizer, Cody Kessler and Kevin Hogan.

153 responses to “Report: Browns failed to get A.J. McCarron trade to league in time

  1. There are dumpster fires out there but honestly that is degrading to dumpsters when compared to Cleveland. First the b-ing and moaning from Hue about Jimmy and now this! I thought Kizer was the end-all-be-all and the future? Kid should have stayed in college. NFL should consider contraction and remove the team.

  2. I think the NFL was like a evil step-father over ruling the trade!!

    The League Office was probably like, “So, the Browns want to send a 2nd and 3rd this year to an IN STATE, IN DIVISION RIVAL, for a QB with little game reps. How about we do the Browns a favor and DENY the trade, that way they can pass on QB’s in the draft like always…..Then overpay for said QB’s 7 years later in free agency”

  3. They werent getting Garrapolo without overpaying. Belichick preferred him out of the AFC so it would have taken a lot of incentive. More than the Browns should be paying.

  4. “the Bengals were set to receive 2018 second- and third-round picks.”

    what the???? The patriots only got 1 second rounder for JG….what the hell is wrong with the Browns? what would they have given up for JG????

    OR did BB not want to deal with the Browns? or any AFC team?

  5. I think my team got the short end of a trade but at least the front office isn’t incompetent. I feel for the fans in Cleveland, they deserve better than this bad joke of a franchise.

  6. Why would belichick have a grudge against the browns? The team he was a HC for doesn’t exist anymore, is in Baltimore and the owner of that team does a while ago.

    What a dumb comment……

  7. Wow. I know the Browns get more than their share of grief for being incompetent but this just defies all known degrees of it…

  8. October 31, 2017 at 5:58 pm
    “the Bengals were set to receive 2018 second- and third-round picks.”

    what the???? The patriots only got 1 second rounder for JG….what the hell is wrong with the Browns? what would they have given up for JG???
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    My guess is Garapollo Was not willing to sign an extension to stay in Cleveland, so a trade would not have made sense

  9. Another epic fail? Hardly.
    Only losers here were the Bengals
    trying to unload a QB they themselves
    don’t believe to be a franchise QB.

    The Browns incompetence saved them
    from themselves. Just pick the best
    first round QB available, and stop
    overthinking things.

    They passed on Wentz and Watson.
    What makes anyone think the Browns know
    what a good QB is supposed to look like?

    McCarron was never going to be the answer
    to their Quarterbacking woes. Save the draft
    picks and just draft QBs until you think
    you’ve found one to get you to the future.

  10. Seems pretty clear that the Browns FO is trying to tank. Hue Jackson is a patsy. Jackson’s trying as hard as he can, but he sucks as a head coach.

    The FO wants the worst or second worst record.

  11. My unfeated 0-16 Lions of 28 are quaking in their boots. They are afraid another team will join the unfeated ranks at 0-16 and tarnish their legacy.

    Looks like the Boones Farm wine and Faygo Cola will stay room temperature for now.

  12. The Patriots got the 49ers 2nd rounder didn’t they, which is likely #34 or #35 overall. I don’t think the Browns were going to give up their 2nd rounder, #33 overall. More likely it would have been the Eagles or Texans 2nd rounder which in effect is more like 2 3rd rounders for McCarron.

    The logistics of not being able to execute the trade is bad but not as bad as the talent evaluation. McCarron has a lot less upside than Kizer.

  13. IDK what is sadder….

    That the deal couldn’t get done, OR

    The fact they were putting their hopes in AJ McCarron??

    Or maybe they just wanted AJ’s wife at the games to increase ticket sales??

  14. I think this will end up being good.
    Follow me on this…….
    The can’t seem to draft any decent QB.
    They trade for Osweiler only to cut him.
    They can’t submit a trade on time.

    Maybe the smart thing to do is to do nothing?

  15. Browns actually lucked out in not giving up a 2nd and 3rd rounder for McCarron. He’s not worth a 4th round pick, let alone a 2nd and 3rd.

  16. I’m a born and raised Bills fan. Yet, i can’t even imagine the depths of depression,sadness and futility Brown’s fan have to deal on a yearly basis. Or maybe i just don’t want to.

  17. Some intern that got lost on his way to the fax machine will be receiving a nice bottle of the 2009 Chateau Margaux, courtesy of AJ.

  18. Honestly the Brown’s should just clone Jim Brown 53 times and make a whole roster of of Jim Brown’s. They would go 16-0, then the Jim Brown’s would retire though.

  19. ONE stinkin thing to focus on all day and all the time innthe world and they’re late. You have got to be kidding me

  20. Not Sure says:
    October 31, 2017 at 6:33 pm
    Honestly the Brown’s should just clone Jim Brown 53 times and make a whole roster of of Jim Brown’s. They would go 16-0, then the Jim Brown’s would retire though.

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    They’d still screw it up. The cloning machine would produce 53 James Browns instead of 53 Jim Browns. Great funky entertainment, but pitiful football.

  21. I don’t know, after the Niners only gave up one second round draft pick for Jimmy Garoppolo who is the guy Hue actually wanted, it would have been kind of a bitter pill to swallow having Cincinnati demand a second and a third for a guy who he wanted less than JG. He coached him already so if he really was in love with him they would have gone straight after him instead of Jimmy Garoppolo. So obviously it’s not exactly a match made in heaven anyway.

    If the trade went through we would be making fun of Cleveland for paying so much for a guy they wanted less than JG, who only cost one second round pick.

    It was really a lose-lose situation for Cleveland and hey, it’s Cleveland, so that’s not surprising.

  22. Where to start…

    1. after whiffing on Garoppolo and McCarron, whoever draws the short straw as this week’s ‘starting QB’ for the Browns knows that he is (at best) the 3rd choice

    2. the other QBs on the roster can only assume that they are (at best) 4th choice – no need to rank them

    3. they have sent a powerfully de-motivating message to their team

    4. by showing their lack of confidence in the QBs on roster, they now have no choice but to take one of the QBs in the draft and make them the starter. The rest of the league sees their desperation, and will price their trade prospects accordingly.

    5. this debacle has ESPN thinking about changing the spelling of their segment to “Cold, Hard FAX”

    I do not know whether the Factory of Sadness has added a second shift, but they have certainly ramped up production!

  23. I think the Browns lucked out on this one. I’d rather have 2nd and 3rd(s) round picks than 8 games of AJ McCarron just for McCarron to sign elsewhere in the offseason.

    If they really want him, then just sign McCarron in the offseason (and save the draft picks).

  24. The Browns used a fax machine? Oh brother …
    Have they ever heard of PDF files? Or maybe a smartphone pic?
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    League rules require a fax. I learned that from the Denver debacle a few years back.

  25. This Browns front office during the trade deadline reminds me of Charlie Brown on Halloween. The ghost costume full of holes is their image to the rest of the NFL.

    The 49ers “I got a Garoppolo!!!!”

    The Eagles “I got an Ajayi!!!!!”

    The Browns “I got a rock”

  26. ESPN Clevelad’s Tony Grossi went as far as to report that the Browns were “celebrating” McCarron’s acquisition and “forgot to call in the deal before the deadline.”

    Hahahahahahaha ……………….

  27. How does this team even have fans left? They have inept and irrelevant forever but at some point you have to blame the fans for allowing it by continued support of the team.

    Why would they do anything to make it better when they have suckers willing to pay for this ineptness?

  28. I would ask how someone screws up something as simple as calling the league to announce a trade, but then I remembered this is the Browns we’re talking about. The kings of ineptitude.

  29. Sometime during the Chicago Bulls reign of terror on the NBA in the 90s their GM Jerry Krause was heard saying “Organizations Win Championships”, and one only has to look at the present day Bulls to know how right he was.

    Contrast those Bulls teams with these. I know it was nice to have MJ around, but it took 6 years to find the people to compliment him, but Krause did that, and they won 6 titles in the next 8 years.

    I remember the 50s when the Browns the Lions and the Giants and the Colts ruled.

  30. The Browns are dumb for botching the trade, but they’re double dumb for wanting McCarron in the first place. I don’t want to hear anything about lawyers because Howie Roseman is going to be GM of the year for drafting Wentz.

  31. I’m a Chiefs fan. And I have nothing but sympathy for the great fans of Cleveland. I swear me and 3 of you guys from the dog pound would be able to walk in off the street and do a better job than the clown show running the place now. How in the name of all that’s holy do you screw up a deal for a QB because you can’t pick up a phone and call or text. Stupidity breeds stupidity and I think unless you get rid of everyone from Jimmy H to the guy that washes the towels you’ll remain the same. Browns fans deserve better

  32. I think the Browns lucked out on this one. I’d rather have 2nd and 3rd(s) round picks than 8 games of AJ McCarron just for McCarron to sign elsewhere in the offseason.

    If they really want him, then just sign McCarron in the offseason (and save the draft picks).

    You’re missing the point. They wanted him and made a deal but due to their incompetence, they screwed up. Look, they may be grateful down the road but still… they messed this up

  33. I don’t know what’s worse the fact that they didn’t get the call because they were celebrating or the fact that they were going to Gove up a 2 and 3 for AJ. If i was a Browns fan I would be disgusted. How much more can you take before you disown them.

  34. Why is everyone so sure Garropolo is better than AJ ? Two games?!?! They seem to say that about every Brady backup. Have any had success?

    Browns should hire Kevin Costner for GM, way better tan what they have now.

  35. As a Bills fan this hurts my heart. I know a lot of Bills fans root for the browns just for the simple fact that our teams have been pretty bad for the better part of 2 decades. But this latest instance makes me really mad at the front office. I can’t even imagine how browns fans are feeling right now. Good luck to yall for real for real. I hope you guys win at least one game. I would hate for them to go 0-16. Their fans deserve soo much better!

  36. Roger Goodell just made 2 more enemies (Browns and Bengals owners). For this reason alone, he should have intervened and allowed the trade to go through. Furthermore, allowing the trade to go through would increase interest in the Browns, thus helping the product on the field, which is suffering. Dumb move by the NFL office.

  37. I thought the Carson Chargers were a messed up operation. The Browns are in total disarray!
    Actually, the Browns only win last year was against the Chargers. Maybe I’m wrong. The Charger RELOCATION is a disaster!

  38. As a lions fan I know I don’t exactly have a ton of room to throw stones….

    but dear god Cleveland….

    I have family in Cleveland that are season ticket holders- imagine dropping that kind of cash and they go screw this up…

  39. topcide says:
    As a lions fan I know I don’t exactly have a ton of room to throw stones…. but dear god Cleveland….
    ===

    On the contrary. You guys have had so many stones thrown your way over the years that you’re entitled to finally throw a few back. Have at it, and enjoy!

  40. If Andy gets hurt, then AJ will have wished he was on the Browns or any team, because that Bengals Offensive line sucks.

  41. I say it’s great this trade didn’t go through because it would have been an even bigger fail than not getting it in on time! A 2nd and 3rd rounder to your division rival???? For a backup qb?? I say this is the best thing to happen to Cleveland all year!

  42. It wasn’t late, the NFL just turned it down for the Browns fans sake. Like when the NBA stepped in and told Ted Stepien that he wasn’t allowed to make anymore Cavs trades, to save him from his own stupidity.

  43. Jazz rocks! says:
    October 31, 2017 at 5:58 pm
    They werent getting Garrapolo without overpaying. Belichick preferred him out of the AFC so it would have taken a lot of incentive. More than the Browns should be paying.
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    Isn’t him being on the Browns a better option? Will never see him in the playoffs or SB.

  44. good god, everyone who is not a browns fan..be thankful..this is just…it never ends with them…

  45. Hue, just sit tight. You can come back to the Raiders as OC next year. Right after we sign Jim Harbaugh as HC.

  46. wib22 says:
    October 31, 2017 at 5:50 pm
    Sucks for them that belicheat held a grudge from 22 years ago and didn’t trade them Jimmy.

    Excuse me, Mr Genius, Belichick traded Pro Bowler Jamie Collins to the Browns just last year. Don’t let facts get in the way of your ill informed narrative.

  47. Probably a lucky break for the Browns. Maybe the intern at the NFL Fax machine saw the 2nd and 3rd round picks, and decided to hold the paper for a couple of minutes. Nice gesture.

  48. Hey Haslam, do the few remaining fans a favor and sell the team. You are obviously incompetent, and surrounded with the same.

  49. They should have just kept Osweiller. I mean, he is at least a passable NFL QB. Not a good one, but for crying out loud he had actually won a few NFL games. Instead they went with three guys who either aren’t ready or aren’t good. I am not a fan of Brock as a long term solution to anything, but he was at least an NFL QB.

    But Browns gotta Brown.

  50. Looks to me like it went down as follows. Hue Jackson desperately wanted McCarron because McCarron is a more or less competent QB (unlike Kizer) who might win a game or two. But the Browns’ front office realized that this deal would involve giving up WAY too much for a guy of McCarron’s skill, so they purposely let it die. (Wow, dysfunction between the Browns’ coaches and front office … who’da thunk?)

    Bottom line, either Hue’s gotta go or the front office has gotta go. I said at the very beginning that it was a mistake to pair an old-school coach like Hue with a front office consisting of a bunch of young Harvard guys who embrace analytics. Now it’s clear that this front office is never going to work with this coaching staff. Jimmy Haslam has a decision to make. Who goes, and who stays?

  51. This is when the Browns need to bring Krapernick in too mentor Kizer, why not with all the other stupid off the wall moves they make.

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