Papa John’s CEO not happy with NFL leadership

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It looks like Papa John’s is about to become the exclusive pizza provider of the Dallas Cowboys.

In a conference call regarding the company’s disappointing third quarter earnings, Papa John’s CEO John Schnatter blamed company struggles on the NFL’s lingering anthem controversy. And he blamed the NFL’s lingering anthem controversy on NFL leadership.

“Good or bad, leadership starts at the top and this is an example of poor leadership,” Schnatter said in prepared remarks, via Chris Otts of WDRB.com. “This should have been nipped in the bud a year and a half ago.”

That’s a shot at Commissioner Roger Goodell, who allowed the issue to simmer until the pot blew up in September, when President Trump attacked players who had been kneeling or sitting during the national anthem — and essentially challenged more of them to do the same.

“The [NFL] controversy is polarizing the customer, polarizing the country,” Schnatter said. But the country already was polarized; the anthem controversy simply allowed that polarity to invade pro football, via politicians decided to intrude on sports.

Papa John’s previously had been publicly quiet about the drop in sales due to the decline in NFL ratings, and in turn in the reduction in viewers seeing Schnatter hawk his product. But Schnatter is now willing to speak loudly, and it’s clear that he — like Cowboys owner Jerry Jones — isn’t happy with the league office’s failure to keep a small kitchen fire from engulfing the whole house.

265 responses to “Papa John’s CEO not happy with NFL leadership

  1. This statement just got more publicity for free than he had been paying the NFL for. Business move only, he doesn’t actually believe his sales are down because players are kneeling.

  2. The President is polarizing the country, and perhaps your pizzas suck.

    From what I heard the chocolate chip cookie (pizza) is better than the pizza.

    Domino’s is booming btw, with their stock up 5,000% since 2008.

  3. I would say “stick to pizza” but Papa Johns isn’t what I’d consider pizza. They seem to sell the cardboard that the cheese sticks to. They just call it pizza. I have literally turned down dozens of free papa johns pizza in my life. No thanks.

  4. I don’t think the NFL ratings are what’s hurting Papa John’s. I think it’s Schnatter’s reputation as an employer and human being. I haven’t purchased a thing from one of his restaurants since he opened his mouth about a potential minimum wage hike a couple years ago.

  5. Maybe if this guy put out a better pizza their sales wouldn’t have dropped so badly. Always place blame on someone else…it’s the American way!

  6. So the guy who was going to cut healthcare to his workers for political reasons is unhappy with leadership? Yawn.

    Making commercials with NFL retirees does not make him relevant to football.

  7. Politicians? They were late to the party. The NFL allowed a malcontent to create the issue and one who did itfor his own agenda. Talk about ignoring reality.

  8. You can tell from his commercials and his frozen face that Papa John loves him some Papa John. Hey dude – you run pizza restaurants. Go away.

  9. Sure sure blame your bad Pizza on people expressing their fundamental rights as American citizens.

    I express my pizza rights by going to Papa Murphy’s instead… that’s some good take-and-bake and much cheaper.

  10. Are you editorializing (“But the country already was polarized; the anthem controversy simply allowed that polarity to invade pro football, via politicians decided to intrude on sports.”) or reporting this news?

  11. Maybe the decision to not add $.14 to the cost of each pizza in order to give your employees health coverage is finally coming back to bite you in the behind instead. Don’t blame players for the lack of sales of your food. You chose to get in bed with Jerry Jones, and now you’re dealing with the consequences.

  12. Pizza is a football meal. If people aren’t watching football, pizza will not be sold. I remember being a delivery driver and NFL sundays and playoffs were as good as any day of college finals(better usually) and as good as a snow storm. I’d hate to see how dead it is on Sundays right now

  13. This isn’t a big deal. I find it baffling that so many Americans demand a North Korea-like display of patriotism, as if that display is actually a measure of one’s level of patriotism.

  14. “John Schnatter blamed company struggles on the NFL’s lingering anthem controversy.” It might have to do with the sh*ty product he’s selling, and how he treats his help. But let’s blame the NFL.

  15. The important part of this story is that PJ has pulled much of its NFL television advertising.

    And who can blame them?

  16. “But Schnatter is now willing to speak loudly, and it’s clear that he — like Cowboys owner Jerry Jones — isn’t happy with the league office’s failure to keep a small kitchen fire from engulfing the whole house.”

    Nor should he be happy.

  17. Is this the guy that lives in an absolutely massive multi-million dollar castle and cut his workers’ health insurance because he “couldn’t afford it”?

  18. He’s also one of those jagoffs who cut all his full time employees hours back when the ACA passed so he didn’t have to provide them with health insurance. Their pizza is absolutely disgusting and he’s an equally disgusting human being. I’d have to be starving to eat that garbage. Boycott Papa Johns

  19. And an Italian American I am not happy with Paapa John’s processed dough boy under cook junk it passes off as pizza. Hell the box it all sticks to taste better then the product.

  20. Just last week I received an email from my company stating our social media policy and that I represent the company. Now if sent something that brought negative light to my company and affected my shareholders I would be fired for good reason. I don’t do those things because I know the consequences. Demanding my employer let me protest on company time is a joke. Every one of you who live in the real world know exactly what I’m talking about. Thumbs down me if you want but we all know the truth. Truth stands on its own and will never need lies to push an agenda. In the age of deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

  21. so now….corporations that sell average products and spend more $$$ marketing them than they put into the product….blame the people they are spending their marketing $$$ with for their….subpar product….
    check….

  22. there’s a Papa Johns about a mile from my house, has been for years. I drive 3 miles to get my pizza, have been for years. It’s about the pizza.

    However, I’m sure Papa Johns’ sales will at least double now that he’s made their stance and the NFL boycotters will start flocking there.

  23. lightningbuggs says:
    November 1, 2017 at 11:37 am
    The important part of this story is that PJ has pulled much of its NFL television advertising.

    And who can blame them?
    *****************************************************
    Exactly, but the pea brains here can’t stop talking about the pizza like it’s relevant.

  24. Here we go again, focusing on everyone and everything (even pizza sales!) except for the very issue why Kap felt he needed to kneel in the first place… justice for those who are getting slaughtered unjustly.

  25. Goodell is a cancer, and if the owners go ahead and extend his contract, then they deserve whatever misery that brings.

  26. A few years ago, on Super Bowl Sunday, someone asked me to pick up
    a pizza from this guy’s place. Believe it or not, the label said:
    “Your pizza experience managed by Christ”
    I figured it was supposed to say “Christopher” or something, but I googled it
    (and invite you to, too) and it’s a thing;
    Schnatter actually tries to blame his awful pizza on Jesus.
    Yeah, let’s look to this guy for guidance.

  27. yeah, because people getting shot down like dogs by rogue cops is small in comparison to people who “disrespect” the flag and anthem.

  28. That Roger Goodell contract extension doesn’t look like a slam dunk anymore, does it ? Once the sponsors blasts the leadership, there goes the NFL. Goodell must go with his lack of leadership and screwing over its players. Someone should come up with a petition to get rid of Roger Goodell.

  29. My dad bought Papa John’s Pizza for lunch for some clients a few years ago. Nobody wanted to eat the pizza, point out to my father that there were dead ants cooked into the food.

  30. Mike Florio says:

    November 1, 2017 at 11:37 am

    I’m doing whatever I want to do, which I’ve done for 16 years as of today.

    —————————————————————————————-

    I disagree with most of your politics but, couldn’t agree more with this statement. As someone who has followed your blog for many years, long before it was mainstream, I salute your site, & how big it has become.

    If someone doesn’t like it, they can always start their own.

  31. Papa Johns was giving away free ovens and NO % of the take for the 1st 2 yrs if you opened a new franchise with them, this started well before the decline in ratings in the NFL. he sounds like he could work for the NFL though, he blames his own inabilities on others, his failures on others. He has no personal accountability.
    He has run his own company into the toilet, it wasnt roger, he didnt need any help doing so

  32. How does “Papa John” Schnatter’s success as a businessman from making pizza and (paid for) close friendship with Peyton Manning on commercials give him the right to fire shots against the NFL Commissioner? Stick to your better toppings, Papa.

  33. If the NFL would fire Goodell, get out of the social engineering business, teach Al Riveron what a catch is, and get back to presenting the game of football, then they just might get through this unfortunate period in their history.

    Goodell, in 10 years, has nearly destroyed one of the greatest businesses in the world.

  34. Jerry Jones is mad. Like him or not, and it is easy not to, he is formidable and unrelenting. Right or wrong he feels betrayed by previous BFF Goodell, and the artillery is coming out.

    This statement has more Jerry Jones revenge sauce on it than a Papa John’s pizza.

  35. Maybe when they’re done visiting with Groundskeeper Willie, he and Peyton can go find the protesters and have a talk with them over a pizza or two…

  36. logicalvoicesays says:
    November 1, 2017 at 11:33 am
    Top 5 Pizza Chains: Jerry’s, Pizza Hut, Domino’s, Little Cesar’s and Papa John’s. In that order.
    ——————————————————————————

    As someone who enjoys his fair share of pizza, wth is Jerry’s?

  37. All advertisers are feeling their advertising dollars are being wasted on NFL time slots. It’s not just the pizza joint. Papa John’s are simply the first to publicly complain. Revenues are about to take a dive. I wonder if these self absorbed players understand that their salaries are tied to revenues, or how the process even works. Apparently some players think the money keeps coming, fans or no fans.

  38. Just last week I received an email from my company stating our social media policy and that I represent the company. Now if sent something that brought negative light to my company and affected my shareholders I would be fired for good reason.

    You mean like getting involved in allegations of Domestic Violence or bar fights with a DJ or pulling down a girl’s top?

    It works both ways.

  39. Seems to me that blaming NFL players for your failing pizza business is the very definition of “poor leadership”.

  40. Could it be that his pizzas taste like doughnuts? Haven’t had a Papa Johns in years, and not planning to anytime soon.

  41. Letting the Eliot controversy linger was a mistake. It indicates Goodell’s
    inability to listen to reason. Like it or not ownership needs to be included
    in issues of suspension. Perhaps Goodell fears another Ray Rice where
    he allowed the front office of the Ravens to somehow influence him to
    a point where he made an extremely stupid decision.
    This type of reasoning is flawed. In past situations like Roethlisberger’s
    situation he no doubt spoke with ownership and they agreed on a suspension.
    If Goodell could reach a consensus with the late Dan Rooney he could
    also have reached a consensus he could have done so with Jerry Jones.
    To allow the situation to linger certainly hurt the shield. The fan base
    could have accepted less of a suspension given the obvious
    credibility problems of the victim. Criticism of the Columbus Distrct attorney
    has not lingered. Elliot could have accepted responsibility for some bad
    decision making, been fined and more importantly required to attend some type
    of counseling to educate and insure no further conduct.
    In many local jurisdictions Domestic abuse counseling ( attendance of 24 classes )
    is used in many first time events and has success.
    Goodell continues to operate as if he is above it al. He has failed to remember
    he works for the owners.
    His failure to stop the anthem problem is inexcusable. Once again he failed
    to create a consensus amoung owners and players.

  42. “This should have been nipped in the bud a year and a half ago.”

    Sure, his pizzas are awful and he’s a loud drunken tool…but he’s 100% correct here.

  43. Byhim4u

    Funny, because I thought he was protesting due to being benched for Blain gabbert and the players were protesting because he is no longer in the NFL. None of that seems to be protesting unjust slaughter at all. Maybe this is why so many fans are pissed, because not even the protestors know why they are protesting, and those who do see it as a disgrace to what the protest is supposed to stand for

  44. Pappa Johns is for college kids looking for cheap deals on pizzas. It only tastes good when you’re hammered. Maybe adults are sobering up and getting better ingredients, better pizza elsewhere?

  45. He doesn’t care about the Anthem, just hawking his product. I’ll admit I used to buy Papa John’s pizzas and my girlfriend preferred Pizza Hut and Costco over Papa John’s. As of today, she gets her way, no more PJ’s pizza.

  46. If your business is struggling because another business has something like this happening, maybe you’re just bad at your business? Not sure how it’s a GOP value to build a business completely reliant on a sports league.

    Here’s an idea –

    Make pizza that’s actually good; hire employees and pay them well enough that they aren’t awful to interact with; keep your mouth shut and your reptile face off the commercials.

  47. Maybe you should people should look into how much money Roger has made these owners since becoming commissioner before you say one social issue would get him fired.

    The NFL brand has gone crazy ballistic since Rodger became commissioner. Only something as Mindless and thoughtless as racism could ever get in the way of that.

  48. uh news flash

    papa john’s pizza sucks. the commercials suck. and many people actually dislike peyton manning who is featured in many of the commercials

  49. Hey John Schnatter, your pizza sucks. it tastes like cardboard with freezer on top. maybe that’s why your quarter earnings are bad. typical narcissist. always trying to blame someone else for their problems. Suck it up buttercup and make a better pizza. And ripping into the NFL is probably a sure fire way to make sure its fans won’t be calling you for pizza on sundays.

  50. Maybe some of you people with strong anti-roger opinions should look into how much money Roger has made these owners since becoming commissioner before you say one social issue would get him fired.

    The NFL brand has gone crazy ballistic since Rodger became commissioner. Only something as Mindless and thoughtless as racism could ever get in the way of that.

    Like my dad always said “Racism has a way of making you stupid.”

  51. “But the country already was polarized; the anthem controversy simply allowed that polarity to invade pro football, via politicians decided to intrude on sports.”

    I think politics intruded on sports the moment Kaepernick took a knee during the national anthem.

  52. Is this guy the world’s greediest man?

    The NFL does not operate at the pleasure of a pizza seller. Especially one who is too cheap to cook his own crappy pizzas, and who cut his employees health ins because he felt he wasnt making enough millions. So much for deserving that GOP tax cut for the wealthy. They fight tooth and nail to avoid the largely mythical “trickle down”

    He can keep his friggin raw, crappy pizzas. Anyone can make better

  53. I actually like papa johns better than Dominos, but that ain’t sayin much. Now i will intentionally avoid buying papa johns altogether. There are plenty of mom and pop stores to order from. Skip the big pizza chains!

  54. .
    Sponsors matter. They provide the revenue to put the games on free TV. Plus they are correct. It was (mid)handled in typical Goodell fashion. The actions of one player in San Francisco were allowed to cast a pall over the entire league.
    .

  55. The sweetest pizza sauce I’ve ever had. It’s gross. Almost like somebody tried to make lemonade and used tomatoes instead of lemons.

  56. cmg23 says:
    November 1, 2017 at 11:46 am

    yeah, because people getting shot down like dogs by rogue cops is small in comparison to people who “disrespect” the flag and anthem.
    ———————-

    How and why is people getting shot down by the police an NFL matter? The NFL can’t even manage to deal with a more tangible issue like domestic violence, so how would they ever be able to tackle a nebulous problem like social injustice?

    They need to get out of the social engineering business altogether and get back to presenting the game of football.

  57. Your pizza sucks. Ever think this might be the reason. Or, maybe it’s because you cheat your employees and people are tired of subsidizing a thief.

  58. jmethane says:
    November 1, 2017 at 12:16 pm

    Maybe some of you people with strong anti-roger opinions should look into how much money Roger has made these owners since becoming commissioner before you say one social issue would get him fired.
    ————————-

    Please give some facts and figures to support your position that Roger Goodell has done anything, on his own, to make money for the NFL.

  59. I’m with Papa Johns guy on his commentary on the failure of the NFL to stop this kneeling stupidity. If I did anything political at my job, I’d be gone, and so should they! They make a lot of money, there is nothing else that qualifies these players over me to have a voice. With all the blow, sex, and scandal NFL players continue to dive into perhaps they should have LESS of a voice than I have.

  60. What ever you think of Papa John’s pizza or its founder, this is more bad news for the NFL. Advertisers who can legitimately point to the league’s actions or in-actions as a reason for declining sales will not keep on spending money with the league.

    If anything, this might make more owners reconsider re-upping Roger Goodell as commissioner. Pete Rozelle was not a perfect commissioner, but he would have never allowed this situation to fester, and he certainly wouldn’t have embraced the divisiveness promoted by a small fraction of the players.

  61. Wow, so I guess in the era of trump everything is Colin’s fault…….

    Just one more rich religious right wing bigot who will not under any circumstance take responsibility for ANYTHING.

  62. His pizza is awful but that has never precluded sales before. Papa Johns became huge selling that stuff. Its a fact that his sales have declined along the same timeline as the ratings of his primary means of promotion. But also note he is not blaming specifically the protests, nor the deteriorating product, saturation, surreal disciniplary actions, off the wall officiating, various soap operas, or any of that stuff. He is blaming the leadership. I think he is calling that correctly too.

  63. I absolutely hate the anthem protests. They are ridiculous and more so a publicity stunt at this point. But the way Jerry Jones has been acting lately is annoying, who cares what “Papa john” thinks old man, dude dismisses domestic violence and cry’s like a baby over the RULES the “ranking owner” helped put in place.

  64. Pizza is a commodity. No pizza shop is going to stay top dog for very long. NFL could be a factor I guess, but it’s still a pizza company and you can get pizza from anybody.

  65. correctingerrors says:
    November 1, 2017 at 11:33 am
    Pay for the health of your employees before you complain about the leadership of others.

    —————————————–

    I always find this interesting. Why should an employer pay for health care? To attract and retain good employees – ie, a BUSINESS decision.

    It is not a moral obligation.

    BTW – if the best way to get insurance (health in this case) is at work, why not auto, home or other insurance products?

  66. finally, someone with a backbone…this is nothing but a straight up hustle job by the kneelers. time to stop the placation

  67. Can’t wait until Budweiser questions the NFL “leadership”.

    Man, their beer is crappy, so what do they know about it?

  68. When does the NFL ownership can Goodell. He tried to ‘lawyer’ this thing by ‘not saying anything.’ No wonder he wants a contract with a massive separation clause! This protest fiasco, along with the Charger relocation debacle and the exhorbitant prices for going to NFL games is destroying the NFL. Once you’re down that road, you can’t grow fan bases.

  69. I guess it didn’t cross his mind that his pizzas might be crappy, hence the drop in sales. But, hey, if he feels better blaming others, more power to him.

  70. Papa John’s sales are down because Papa John’s sucks. Unless you live out in the boonies, why would you ever order fast food pizza? Go to an authentic pizza establishment. I feel sorry for people that don’t live by quality dining.

  71. The day I ever order a Papa John’s pizza is the day you should just go ahead and shoot me. Sometimes I actually like the NFL. Can’t say the same for Papa John’s Pizza.

  72. Personally, I like Papa John’s pizza. Also, I agree that Roger Goodell is a terrible commissioner. Many of you may not like this dude or his product…but his point about NFL management expertise is spot on.

  73. Jerry Jones is behind this and it is sad. Like one posted pointed out, not all of Papa John’s employees are Trump loving whites. Jerry is pissed because Trump made him issue that order about standing to his players, none of them who kneeled in the past. He upset his players, just got his butt kicked by Roger on Zeke and he is trying to save face. He is throwing a tantrum.

  74. If you’re still eating Papa Johns/Pizza Hutt/Dominoes then you really weren’t worried about good taste in the first place.

  75. guyjuneguyjune says:
    November 1, 2017 at 12:52 pm
    When does the NFL ownership can Goodell. He tried to ‘lawyer’ this thing by ‘not saying anything.’ No wonder he wants a contract with a massive separation clause! This protest fiasco, along with the Charger relocation debacle and the exhorbitant prices for going to NFL games is destroying the NFL. Once you’re down that road, you can’t grow fan bases.

    I cannot stand Goodell. But everyone of the “fiascos” you mention were approved or actively initiated by the owners.

  76. “Nip it in the bud” — Barney Fife

    BTW …. does he offer any ideas on how to “Nip it in the bud?” End police brutality? End racism? I’d be curious to know.

  77. This guy is worth a billion dollars from selling lousy pizza. Yet, when ObamaCare was passed, he complained mightily. He was going to have to lay people off, because it would cost 14 cents more/pizza to insure people according to the law. Which he would have passed on to the consumer anyway.Yet he was giving away free pizza in promotions. I can’t writw what I think about this guy w/o being deleted.

  78. Goodell could not order the players to stand because of the rule already in place. However, since the very first time Colin kneeled, 32 owners could have issued a public order to their players, stand or be benched. Owner’s didn’t need Goodell to make a statement. How many owners did that? Not one. So to blame this on Goodell is laughable. And, as much as this is going to smart, Goodell and some of the owners have gotten closer to the players over this. Only good can come of this, more good for the American people than any wall around Mexico.

  79. I truly couldn’t care less what John Schnatter thinks about anything, let alone the NFL leadership. He’s free to hawk his crappy pizzas through other avenues if he isn’t pleased…

  80. If my household is any indication, the drop in Papa John’s sales has to do with the owner being an anti-labor jerk, griping about having to give his employees decent pay or benefits.

    Seriously – I used to get their pizza regularly, but since that came out, I haven’t bought a single one, and have no plans to do so in the future.

  81. Please give some facts and figures to support your position that Roger Goodell has done anything, on his own, to make money for the NFL.

    ——

    Between 2010 and 2014, after negotiated and signed an owner friendly CBA, the NFL revenues grew by 22% to make 11 billion dollars in 2014.

    The NFL made 14 billion dollars in Revenue in 2017 and Rodger Goodell has set a target of 25 billion dollars by 2025.

    How’s that for figures… nice big ones.

  82. It’s the lack of progressives… Papa John’s political views are well known, and progressives are refusing to enable him.

  83. *after Goodell negotiated the owner friendly contract. Sorry his name got left out of the sentence…he did that personally. Goodell has made the owners billions of dollars. Get real racism doesn’t override that kind of capital. Not even for Bob McNair or Jerry Jones.

  84. lightningbuggs says:
    The important part of this story is that PJ has pulled much of its NFL television advertising.
    ==========

    Regardless of one’s political beliefs in regard to the anthem, if the CEO chose to stop advertising during NFL games (for any reason), and then PJ’s sales went down, WHO should get the blame? The NFL or the person who stopped advertising?

  85. With Trump’s ratings hovering around 30%, why doesn’t Papa John go out and announce to the world that he’s a Trump supporter? Maybe that will help sell pizza’s. Shouldn’t a person stand up and be counted? Don’t hide. Come on out and make a big announcement. I can’t wait to start spreading the good news. Papa John’s supports Trump.

  86. I feel fortunate to live in an area where pizza chains are not even a consideration for our dining dollar. If we feel like pizza, we order from a local place featuring a high quality product at a competitive price. Living in a diverse area offers many benefits, not the least of which is quality dining experiences. I have little doubt that pizza from PJ’s is below average but honestly have never had a slice. As the World gets smaller and more diverse places like PJ’s will find it more and more difficult to compete because competition will expose their issues with quality.

  87. “My dad bought Papa John’s Pizza for lunch for some clients a few years ago. Nobody wanted to eat the pizza, point out to my father that there were dead ants cooked into the food.”

    That’s the better toppings.

  88. murph2432 says:
    November 1, 2017 at 11:36 am
    Who gives a crap what this guy thinks?
    ______________________________________________

    NFL owners, that’s who. And the players should as well, but they’re too stupid to understand cause and effect, or even correlation.

  89. Americans are finally realizing that Papa John’s pizza is pretty awful, and, therefore, not buying it like they used to. So, tell me, John, how is that Roger Goodell’s fault?

  90. A guy whose mouth was hermetically sealed to both player and owner’s backsides has to expect sooner or later the seal will brake.

  91. byHim4u says:
    November 1, 2017 at 11:44 am
    Here we go again, focusing on everyone and everything (even pizza sales!) except for the very issue why Kap felt he needed to kneel in the first place… justice for those who are getting slaughtered unjustly.

    ——————
    Note – In my above response assume you were referring to what Kaep was saying by the time he decided to kneel instead of sitting and not what he was upset about when he first started sulking on the bench.

  92. So most of you boneheads are missing the point. It’s not about whether or not you like his damn pizza. Wake up.

    More and more advertisers will pull out due to the disrespect on display before every game. Doesn’t matter if you think the players are just or not- most Americans are getting increasingly turned-off by it.

    Trump called it.

  93. Anthem respecters cry for NFL owners to exercise power over their employees, but criticize Papa John for how they perceive he treats his employees. And shouldn’t the same crowd that has vociferously criticized ObamaCare be in favor of a business owner avoiding It? Hypocrites.

  94. The pizza quality is not the issue. Even with bad pizza, the company has experienced a downgrade in business. Obviously they found that during the games there is a major decrease in orders..If less people are watching, less people are ordering pizzas…

  95. But but but you guys said it was just the election, or the matchups and then it was just the cable cutters.

    Are they cutting their phones off too?

    The NFL is done, just like the mainstream media, late night television and the DNC.

  96. You have got to be kidding! You’re going to blame advertising as a loss for revenue? Even though virtually every single professional sports league has major sponsorship’s with your product? Newsflash – sales aren’t suffering because of over-saturation or any sort of NFL protests, it’s suffering because your pizza tastes like garbage and people are finding alternative options.

  97. In strategic risk analysis, you sometimes look at factors that could negatively impact your business; is the company relying too much on one source of income? My questions, if I were an investor, would be, “Why are you relying so much on the NFL for sales? You’ve been at this a long time.” or “Are Dominos and Pizza Hut complaining about sales because players are kneeling? If not, and they’re your competitors, shouldn’t you be considering an alternate strategy?” Looks like your leadership problem, not the NFL’s.

  98. We finally have someone speaking that the NFL might actually care about. If five companies would threaten to cancel their advertising you would not see another kneeler in football. Money talks.

    Thank you Papa Johns!

  99. Conservative CEO of a Pizza Company that sells terrible Pizza believes the freakout over the NFL’s Anthem situation has hurt his Pizza Sales.

    Hmm. That’s pretty ironic.

    Solutions:
    1. Make Better Pizza
    2. Don’t freak out over a song tradition
    3. The NFL has a giant list of other (actual) issues far larger than the Anthem
    4. See #1

    It’s still incredible to me how grown adults care if other adults stand or sit during a song. If you’re going to throw the “snowflake” label around, ask yourself first if you got bent out of shape over sitting/standing during a song then let the irony wash over you.

  100. I bet those ads he pulled out of have already been filled. Maybe at a lower cost, but non the less, the ads will be sold.

  101. You have got to be kidding! You’re going to blame advertising as a loss for revenue? Even though virtually every single professional sports league has major sponsorship’s with your product? Newsflash – sales aren’t suffering because of over-saturation or any sort of NFL protests, it’s suffering because your pizza tastes like garbage and people are finding alternative options…

    And after years Of Papa Johns being in business to the American public since 2016 has discovered that the pizza sucks…

  102. His pizza quality has declined. Service has really crashed. Delivery radii has been greatly reduced…..I can’t get home delivery anymore. Prices are at a premium level, while competition, notably Dominoes, has reduced prices and improved presentation and delivery. The bs ad campaign ain’t overcoming reality…..wake UP Papa!!

  103. If Papa John’s sales are mostly from people watching football games that can get tricked into an impulse decision to order pizza by seeing Peyton Manning and Papa do a ‘high five’, then probably the NFL dip in ratings is hurting their sales.

  104. Colonel Quibble says:
    November 1, 2017 at 3:03 pm

    I’m not happy that I have to pay a delivery fee ON TOP OF a tip.
    —————————

    So do carryout. Problem solved.

  105. Maybe every time they deliver a pizza, before handing it over and collecting, the driver should sing the national anthem. To honor the troops and all.

  106. Nothing like a declining NFL to exposed mediocre pizza. You married the NFL and now it’s in sickness and in health, all sickness thanks to poor executive performance. Back to the Boboli for me while watching Gunsmoke.

  107. Papa should pull his sponsorship then. Rather than complaining about it…

    ——
    Jerry and maybe even Trump himself probably called him and asked him to complain about it though so you know he’s going to do that instead.

  108. How do you sell that many pizzas and keep up the quality of the product?

    Answer is, you don’t! You sell crap and keep your profits. So why blame it on the NFL, if you had a decent tasting pizza, your business wouldn’t depend on the NFL.

  109. All NFL Sponsors are experiencing the same thing. Players kneeling for the flag translates to a ‘slap in the face’ of every fan & sponsor. Fans stop watching, fans stop buying, teams & players make less. But hey, at least the FAKE “racism” message got out…

  110. why can’t he just go back to the days he would wait on the sideline and give Peyton that big sloppy kiss every time he made a huge play.
    They seem very happy together.

  111. “Leadership starts at the top”

    Correct and the kneeling didn’t become such a huge issue until our dear leader made it one with his big mouth. So far Goodell is the only one who has suggested any form of discussion. His leadership is much more mature than marmalades.

  112. y’all talk that “ish” about his “horrible” pizza but a lotta y’all wish y’all had his dividends! he’s been in bizness for decades SOME body likes his pizza jus’ sayin’.

  113. Another rich white guy blaming his money problems on black people

    He didn’t get rich by pissing and moaning about ‘injustice’.

    You’ve illustrated the whole problem.

  114. murph2432 says:
    November 1, 2017 at 11:36 am
    Who gives a crap what this guy thinks?

    ——–

    About as many people who give a crap what Kaep or any NFL player think

  115. His sales are down bcuz his pizza sucks! I can make better homemade pizza that’s his garbage. Who cares about this dudes sales. Just another rich owner whining about something. Get over it dude! Your pizza just isn’t that good…

  116. I bet the next few owners meetings are going to have more fireworks then the 4th of July and Jerry Jones is going to be put in his place and watch is power shrink. He is behind this and the other owners can’t be too happy.

  117. I haven’t eaten his horrible pizza in years,
    but it might be fun to organize a boycott…
    just to let him know how many people think
    he should take his big wad of cash
    and butt out…

  118. It’s funny because I watch football all the time, and I’ve probably seen hundreds of Papa John’s commercials. I specifically liked the one with Joe Montana. But I’ve never bought one of those pizzas. Not one. The commercials just didn’t do it for me, and I am usually a sucker for NFL commercials because I support the NFL. I’ll buy just about anything that sponsors NFL football, even if I don’t really need it. I finally realized what the turnoff was. It’s this dude’s mug. Why would that guy think we all want to look at his face? I understand Peyton Manning. I understand Montana. But why would this guy think his face would sell pizza? I’ll bet if that guy kept his mug off the TV his business would pick up. His face just isn’t appetizing. He’s got the perfect face for radio.

  119. It could also have something to do with the fact that his spokesman teabagged a young lady – who is once again speaking out publicly about Peyton Manning – who of course also took HGH…

    … that is, unless you actually believe him when he says his pregnant wife was taking it

  120. Yes the pizza sucks…but they sell a lot of it.

    Fourth quarter 2016 revenues were $439.6 million.

    (Other reports have said that they’ve pulled ads from NFL games) But it the internet and I don’t trust the internet.

  121. LOL he is right leadership does start at the top and maybe that is why his sales are down, worried more about what NFL players do rather than taking care of his employees that directly effect his business. Common theme for most failing business owners it always someone else fault.

  122. Lol. Not one bit of their decline in sales is because he doesn’t want to pay for employee health insurance. People that have historically bought Paoa Johns couldn’t care less about that. Nice strawman snowflakes.

  123. the fact he thinks the NFL is doing a lousy job means theyre doing something right. Moronic twit

  124. Yeah…I’m a Pappa Murphy’s lover. Haven’t gone near a slimey Pappa John’s in like, forever.

    Now, for all of you people who believe that your protesting the protesters by not watching NFL football is worth even a bucket of warm spit…

    Put down your Pappa John’s pizza and chew on this. Yep, NFL viewership is down. Guess what! NFL viewership is down LESS than network viewership as a whole. The NFL is still a MAJOR draw making a lot of money for the 1%’ers. It’s just not making enough money to keep the money grubbers happy … That amount would be equal to what they projected on their line item budgeting for their Boards.

  125. Yes, the lingering anthem controversy is absolutely on Goodell and the rest of those responsible for poor leadership. Papa John has a valid point there.

    With that said, beer sales haven’t fallen, nor have soft drink sales, or hot dog sales. The bottom line is that Papa John’s pizza absolutely SUCKS. “Better ingredients. Better pizza. Papa John’s”? Seriously? I love pizza (although I rarely eat it anymore, and don’t buy from the national pizza stores any longer). I will stick with local mom and pop places when I do eat it who make a better pizza by far, IMHO.

    Papa Johns is the worst pizza I have ever had the ONE AND ONLY TIME I ordered it. They have a successful advertising campaign, but that is about all they are good at. Dominoes pizza also sucks, and so does Pizza hut. Not one of those national chains can touch NY pizza for flavor and quality, but then again, the big chains are buying in bulk, and they will always cut corners on product to stay as profitable as possible.

  126. One of the linked articles notes that NFL ratings declined during one quarter last year but that Papa John’s same-store sales were actually up over the period of ratings decline, so it sounds like the issue could be more complicated than PJ wants people to believe. And, anyway, from a business standpoint it would be a sign of weakness if the business relied on the NFL to prop it up so much. Who knows, maybe people are waking up to the fact that his pizza is awful – seriously, tomato sauce shouldn’t have so much sugar in it that it tastes like maple syrup.

  127. Reading some of these responses makes me sad for the average PFT visitor.

    The reason Papa John’s pizza sales are getting hurt is because people are boycotting all of the NFL’s sponsors. The Silent Majority actually works for a living, unlike most of the welfare state, so they can speak with their wallets.

  128. I see comments on here about him supposedly not paying for health insurance for his employees….who in the world works at a pizza place and receives ANY benefits ? Lol. Because that’s what I was thinking when I worked at fast food…the employee benefits! What kind of 401k do we get? Do we get dental and vision? What’s the deductible? Good grief.

  129. I think if you build your empire based on crappy pizza and enough commercials to make me change the channel, you don’t get to complain anymore.

    I mean the sooner he bounces and the NFL chooses a replacement sponsor the sooner I don’t ever see anything this A hole ever says again right?

    Sounds like a win for NFL fans, and anyone who hates the sound of a pig squealing

  130. Papa John Botox is just a mouthpiece for Trump. Trying to continue to float a story about “massive” NFL boycott. It’s not happening folks, sure there are people not watching NFL, most probably never did. This is a totally manufactured drama

  131. He’s welcome to skip out the next time the contract negotiations come around. I’m sure Domino’s or Pizza Hut will step right into the vacancy.

  132. You may or may not like his pizza, but he’s made a lot of good decisions that allow him to have the kind of money to afford this. Please list your bonifieds along with your condemnation.

  133. My bona-fide is Occam’s Razor – The simplest explanation is the most likely one. The simplest explanation here is that sales are down because either the product is bad or people don’t have the money to spend on it.

  134. trollkiller55 says:
    November 1, 2017 at 8:33 pm

    the fact he thinks the NFL is doing a lousy job means theyre doing something right.
    ——————-

    What would that be?

    Officiating? Nope.
    Dealing with anthem kneelers? Nope.
    Player discipline? Nope.
    Player safety? Nope.
    Firing Goodell? Nope.

  135. The best thing to say about their pizza is it’s the most expensive cardboard I’ve ever seen.

  136. BTW….The only reason I supported Peyton Manning was because his father Archie was the 1st New Orleans QB and his brothers all went to school in New Orleans where I grew up and watch Archie run for his life every game!

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