Some think Jerry Jones was behind the Papa John’s rant

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On Wednesday, the CEO of Papa John’s blamed a decline in earnings on a decline in NFL ratings, which he in turn blamed on the lingering anthem controversy. In response, some blame Cowboys CEO Jerry Jones for putting Papa John up to it.

Jones has become a significant Papa John’s franchise owner, with the total number of stores owned by Jones in excess of 100 as of 2014.

The relationship started in 2004, when Papa John’s became the official pizza of the Cowboys, and in turn Jones acquired 49-percent interest in 71 Papa John’s stores. Eight years later, Jones appeared in a Papa John’s commercial, where he rapped through the whole thing.

More recently, Jones has been doing a different kind of rapping as he tries to derail the Commissioner’s contract extension, which the Compensation Committee already has been authorized, by a 32-0 vote back in May, to execute. The suspicion in some league circles is that Jones, who has reason to be even more upset with Commissioner Roger Goodell now that running back Ezekiel Elliott‘s suspension is back on, instigated Papa John’s CEO John Schnatter to use Wednesday’s quarterly earnings conference call to dump on the NFL, and to call out NFL leadership for failing to solve the anthem issue before it became a full-blown problem.

For that reason, look for the league office to take Schnatter’s complaints with a grain of salt. (I could have made a pizza ingredient pun there but that would have been too cheesy.) However, the league office should take seriously the fact that Jones continues to look for new and creative ways to push his agenda, which could be to push out Goodell — either by mustering 23 other votes to block his extension or by driving such a hard bargain as to the remaining terms that Goodell decides he doesn’t want it.

93 responses to “Some think Jerry Jones was behind the Papa John’s rant

  1. Papa John is as rich and powerful as Jerry Jones. In fact, Papa John was just instrumental in getting rid of Rick Pitino and AD Tom Jurich at U of L. That’s winning a power play against some very heavy hitters in Louisville.

    Pretty sure that Papa John is not up for doing someone else’s bidding, including Jerry Jones.

  2. Your pizza sales have sucked because your pizza sucks. You can only call your hot circles of garbage pizza for so long before people catch on.

  3. I am sure Robert Kraft and the other owners are not happy with Jerry over this. He is throwing a temper tantrum that is not only hurting his club but all of their clubs. If the owners had such an issue with the protests, they were the only ones who could have told their players to either stand or remain seated on the bench. Jerry looks weak issuing that order to his team where no one kneeled before.

  4. Some people might agree that you are connecting the dots.

    Others, like me, just think you’re trying to move your personal agenda forward.

    Is Jerry happy about Zeke’s suspension? I’m sure he isn’t.

    Is that why Jerry is working to put the extension on hold? I don’t think so.

    The suspension is simply a minor irritation.

    The anthem protests have been allowed to continue unabated for far to long and are seriously hurting the bottom line. They need to end. If Goodell can’t get that done, there is no reason to extend him.

  5. I ate a Papa Johns pizza…once. Cheap ingredients. Lousy pizza!

    It’s altogether fitting that Jones is heavily involved financially in this shoddy enterprise which advertises heavily to promote a very mediocre product…not unlike the Cowboys ever since Jones fired Johnson.

    I don’t care much for Goodell but Jones beneath contempt.

  6. Why does a billionaire owner of of football team need to own pizza joints? It’s sad that he can’t make on his NFL income.

  7. I think Jerry Jones thinks he is the only owner or only owner that mattes in the NFL which is not the case. There are 31 other owners that have a voice and to so Jerry needs to shut his mouth!!!

  8. .
    When was the last time that Goodell handled a situation properly? How myopic of ownership to think that in a country of 320 million only Roger Goodell is qualified for the Commissioner’s job.
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  9. How much business did Papa John’s lose to the massive destruction of Hurricanes Harvey and Irma? How many people were not calling for pizza because they didn’t have the power to call or because of the NFL?

  10. Jones has some serious issues if he is throwing shade on the NFL and promoting Trumps agenda to further his personal grudge.

    Zeke isn’t coming back before 6 games but if you keep throwing the NFL under the bus, you are only hurting yourself and your business partners.

  11. Jones has Roger in his sights and he isn’t going to miss. I believe to him this is bigger than the situation with Elliott, but that was one of the final straws. I predict Roger is out by the Spring as it may be the only way to right the NFL ship.

  12. OMG, make it stop. NFL and NFLPA make the deal to require kneeling in exchange for making marijuana rules mirror the alcohol ones.

  13. Sounds plausible. Jerry could be the secret sauce because he likes to run the show and doesn’t take kindly to not getting his way.

  14. I suspect the rant is the tip of the iceberg. I think Miller and Budweiser are nearly apoplectic as their commercial payments are based on a level of audience penetration that is no longer being achieved. I wonder if the advertising contract has a sliding scale that is impacting the payments to the owners – which would also impact the salary cap and players. Maybe it’s time the NFL engages the NFLPA to explain the long term impact of the “protests” that have offended those who revere the flag, anthem and country. Goodell mishandled this last year when he could have unilaterally made standing a mandatory work rule like it is in the NBA. Now it would be perceived as a racist move. Stupid!

  15. With all the commercials Papa John’s ran, people that never tried it decided to give it a try, so sales went up. Then they tasted it. and of course sales plummeted.

  16. The NFL needs Carmen Policy as NFL commisioner. He would not take any of Jerry Jones crap.

    I haven’t ate Papa John pizza or watched too much NFL football this year outside of 49ers games and it has nothing to do with Anthem protests.. The NFL and Papa John’s are just not very good products right now.

  17. I loathe the Cowboys, but I’m with Jurrah all the way on this one. End the anthem controversy.. one way or another. End Goodell at all costs. Restore the NFL.

  18. Stakeholders never want to hear there’s issues with their investment. Papa John’s isn’t going to admit, their product is loosing interest, the over saturated marketing has run it’s course, and people are eating healthier. Enter the cast the blame on someone else strategy to quell the restless stakeholders. And we wonder why no takes responsibility for their actions, it’s marketed behavior.

  19. I am loving watching the battle heat up between Jerry and Roger – two people that I cannot stand. I hope they take each other down.

    There are so many story lines in this soap opera that used to be the NFL that I can’t keep up with them. I can’t take a side because no one has a solid side to be on. How they can’t see that the league has become a hot mess is beyond me.

    So I am sitting here with my popcorn and watching the one and only game a week that I care about – the Patriots.

  20. I don’t like the Papa John’s commercials because I never understood why this guy has to have his mug on there with famous athletes like Peyton Manning. I didn’t mind it one time, but he’s in every commercial. I think seeing less of his face would result in better sales. The guy is a creep. Just saying.

  21. I can’t blame Jones for pulling all the levers at his disposal to resolve this. Say what you want about him and his football acumen, the one thing he does understand is business and he knows how bad the protest issue is for the league’s bottom line.

  22. Mlb had military personnel sing anthem for each WS game. SMART. Football is letting the inmates run the asylum

  23. jxt2521 says:
    November 2, 2017 at 7:10 am
    OMG, make it stop. NFL and NFLPA make the deal to require kneeling in exchange for making marijuana rules mirror the alcohol ones.

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    Wow. You might have found the one thing that could resolve the whole issue by lunch time.

  24. Coming soon, the networks will tell the NFL to end the protests, one way or another, because they are losing money on advertising. If the downward trend of the viewership levels continues throughout the life of the current contracts, look for a 50% decrease in viewership levels, with a resultant decrease in cash from the next one. Wonder how the players will feel taking a 50% hit on their salaries?
    For a businessman, the bottom line is all that matters. Sure, they will pay lip service to sjw issues, but, when the dollars start to decrease, they will take action to protect their businesses. Papa Johns did exactly that this week. Look for more to do the same.

  25. I weep for the billionaires who are only making hundreds of millions instead of billions.

    How will they feed their families? If earning hundreds of millions instead of billions is “hurting” then boo freaking hoo. People are buying less crap pizza because there’s better pizza around for less money. People are doing things other than watch football because the product isn’t as good as it used to be. The handful of armchair “patriots” who are boycotting the NFL are miniscule drips in the bucket.

  26. So, two days ago fans were leaving the NFL in droves because of the anthem “protests”, and the ratings are down because of the anthem “protests”, and now, when an advertiser gives a real world example, suddenly the anthem “protests” aren’t an issue, and all you bozos can yap about is the quality of the advertiser’s pizza?

    Kneel on, boys!

  27. The NFL Office is on the WRONG side of this issue.
    Sorry SJWs, but a huge majority of the public think you are deranged which leaves the NFL with one choice: continue down this losing path or fire the commissioner.

  28. I love how everyone speculates that NFL ratings are down because guys are kneeling before the football game, yet everyone who complains about the kneeling is still commenting on this site, and clearly tuning into games. Whatever side of the fence you are on, put your money where your mouth is; no one likes a complainer.

  29. The question no one seems to want to ask is who does Jones want for commissioner? Or is this just a play for anyone but Goodell? I’m guessing this is a long term, well thought out campaign to pack the league office with Jerry Jones friendly management. Is there a silent majority of owners using Jones as their front man?

  30. Would love to see the polling that suggests a “huge majority of the public” think people who support allowing anthem protests are deranged. Not sure any poll has ever used the term “deranged” before, but looking forward to your receipts.

    Papa John’s makes crappy pizza and apparently will use any excuse to explain a loss in sales. If you have a brain, you have to know that the NFL protests likely have very little to do with Papa John’s company performance. Significantly more likely that either they have a product issue or organizational issues. To blame this on an advertising platform you’ve chosen is kind of insane from a business perspective.

  31. The hypocrisy of Jerry Jones is boundless. He says that kneeling during an anthem is disrespecting the flag and the soldiers, while in fact it is an exercise in freedom of speech guaranteed by the constitution. And he gives one million dollars to a guy who disrespected and lied about not one but two Gold Star families, disrespected and lied about a Vietnam War hero, and had imaginary bone spurs to dodge the draft in the same war, a guy who has taken an oath to uphold and defend the constitution but who tries to deny its freedoms to others.

    And when has Jones ever been willing to talk about the real reason the players are kneeling, a failure of social and criminal justice? Never. He’s disgusting.

  32. yet everyone who complains about the kneeling is still commenting on this site, and clearly tuning into games

    No, people on this site are probably .01% of those complaining about the disrespect. Get out in the real world every now and then.

  33. This is confusing to me.

    1) Is there some sort of proof that Jerry Jones had/has anything to do with this guy’s comments? If not, I’m not sure why we’re even passing this off as some sort of news story.

    2) The backlash on the Papa John’s comment doesn’t surprise me because it has political undertones based on his past comments about politics, BUT is it that shocking that a major advertiser during NFL games would be upset that his commercials are being seen by millions fewer people every week compared to 2015? Sometimes a comment/statement can have political undertones yet still be 100% accurate. The NFL product has been harmed (in part) by the anthem protests and yes, that bothers the NFL’s sponsors.

  34. Leslie D’Amico says:
    November 2, 2017 at 8:37 am
    The question no one seems to want to ask is who does Jones want for commissioner? Or is this just a play for anyone but Goodell? I’m guessing this is a long term, well thought out campaign to pack the league office with Jerry Jones friendly management. Is there a silent majority of owners using Jones as their front man?

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    The owners voted 32-0 to authorize the committee to negotiate Goodell’s contract which by all accounts they have done just that. Only after the Elliot ruling has Jerry gone full psycho about this. Only a few months ago he voted to extend Goodell.

    The owners could certainly derail this with a simple vote in favor of stopping it, but they won’t because their is not a “silent majority”.

  35. When are people going to figure out that kneeling during the singing of the national anthem isn’t protesting?

  36. limakey says:
    November 2, 2017 at 6:15 am
    I am sure Robert Kraft and the other owners are not happy with Jerry over this. He is throwing a temper tantrum that is not only hurting his club but all of their clubs. If the owners had such an issue with the protests, they were the only ones who could have told their players to either stand or remain seated on the bench. Jerry looks weak issuing that order to his team where no one kneeled before.

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    Oh so you think that Goodell has done a wonderful job, viewership is up, fans are happy with the product they see on the field, the players respect the commissioners office, the rules we see applied on the field every week are clear and consistent…..awesome!

  37. I heard some horror stories about people losing their homes or dying because they cant afford insurance. Innocent people going to jail because they can’t pay for decent representation to defend themselves. But it is absolutely devastating to hear that billionaires may have to sleep on beds of paper money instead of the gold bricks they are use to. I mean these poor sons of guns may have to cut back to having 3 private jets instead of 4. Just awful.

  38. “people on this site are probably .01% of the people complaining about the disrespect. Get out in the real world every now and then.”

    In the actual real world nobody cares about your goofy anthem worship.

  39. I think Papa John knows any free publicity is good publicity. Look how much run he is getting from it.

  40. As much as people hate to admit it, Jerry & Papa John are right. It should be obvious by now that Goodell’s lack of leadership is proving to be a cancer to the NFL and the NFL’s interests.

    Sure revenues have grown, and that’s almost self perpetuating with a product like the NFL, but what could they be if the NFL wasn’t constantly cast in a negative light due to Dictator Goodell’s ego, which drives poor decision making and poor leadership skills? That is something the NFL can’t ignore forever.

    Something Papa John shouldn’t ignore is the fact that his cardboard pizza franchise wouldn’t be where it is if it weren’t for the NFL.

  41. so Jerry owns a stake in Draft Kings & the bad pizza company…and they are both in bed with the NFL right…his whole business model is based on bad pizza, bad football teams & scamming gamblers out of their fantasy money..and he is considered the most powerful owner in the NFL…you can’t make this garbage up…

  42. usmutts says:
    November 2, 2017 at 8:56 am
    The hypocrisy of Jerry Jones is boundless. He says that kneeling during an anthem is disrespecting the flag and the soldiers, while in fact it is an exercise in freedom of speech guaranteed by the constitution. And he gives one million dollars to a guy who disrespected and lied about not one but two Gold Star families, disrespected and lied about a Vietnam War hero, and had imaginary bone spurs to dodge the draft in the same war, a guy who has taken an oath to uphold and defend the constitution but who tries to deny its freedoms to others.

    And when has Jones ever been willing to talk about the real reason the players are kneeling, a failure of social and criminal justice? Never. He’s disgusting.

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    You do realize you can back a candidate even though you dont agree with their position every issue or support every action they take, right? Also, Jones doesnt have to be willing to talk about the players reasons for kneeling….because the players are not protesting the NFL, or the Cowboys or even Jones himself. They are protesting things that Jones and the NFL have no control over, thus, have no part in. Just because these players WANT the NFL to back them doesnt meant they are required to. When these protest start making your paying customers and advertisers mad and your ratings slip, how can you continue to allow it?

    Whats disgusting is people who think its their right to shove their own personal agendas in the face of people who have no interest in those causes. These players are taking advantage of a platform that is provided to them because of the success of the teams, the NFL and their advertisers and in turn, they are bringing it all down.

    Its not up to Jerry Jones or any other owner to be at the forefront of and social or criminal just reforms…..they are businessmen who’s only job is to put a good product on the field and turn a profit. If the players want to keep the spotlight on these injustices, then let them find another avenue that doesnt step on other peoples right to not be forced to listen to it.

  43. willycents says:
    November 2, 2017 at 8:25 am

    Coming soon, the networks will tell the NFL to end the protests, one way or another, because they are losing money on advertising. If the downward trend of the viewership levels continues throughout the life of the current contracts, look for a 50% decrease in viewership levels, with a resultant decrease in cash from the next one. Wonder how the players will feel taking a 50% hit on their salaries?
    For a businessman, the bottom line is all that matters. Sure, they will pay lip service to sjw issues, but, when the dollars start to decrease, they will take action to protect their businesses. Papa Johns did exactly that this week. Look for more to do the same.

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    As I understand it, the players are willing to take a 100% hit to their salaries because the issue means that much to them. Is there any owner willing to do that to oppose their right to peaceful protest? I doubt it. So trying to force someone to do something will only force them to resist even harder. If that was not the case black people would still be owned as property, would still have to sit at the back of the bus, and would still not have the right to vote. I believe these guys are on the right side of history.

  44. cookerduff123 says:
    November 2, 2017 at 8:35 am
    I love how everyone speculates that NFL ratings are down because guys are kneeling before the football game, yet everyone who complains about the kneeling is still commenting on this site, and clearly tuning into games. Whatever side of the fence you are on, put your money where your mouth is; no one likes a complainer.
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    I haven’t watched a game in weeks. I just come here to bask in the tears of the SJW.

  45. Advertisers get to choose whether and where they place their ads, not how their sponsored companies conduct their business. Do Rush Limbaugh and Bill Reilly change their opinions when advertisers dropped him? Of course not.

    Papa John can elect to advertise elsewhere if he doesn’t like how the NFL conducts its business. I’m guessing he won’t.

  46. Some think Jerry Jones was behind the Papa John’s rant…ouch, the truth hurts and the nfl needs some salve to keep the wound from festering…stop whining and get that salve from the fans, it’s time tested and will cure you…

  47. lionsftw says:
    November 2, 2017 at 6:07 am
    Your pizza sales have sucked because your pizza sucks. You can only call your hot circles of garbage pizza for so long before people catch on.
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    Why does that matter? They serve the same pizza this year that they have for the last dozen years. If sales are down, it cannot possibly relate to the quality of pizza unless you think the quality of Papa John’s has gone down. For what it’s worth, all national pizza chains are weak.

  48. Why does that matter? They serve the same pizza this year that they have for the last dozen years. If sales are down, it cannot possibly relate to the quality of pizza unless you think the quality of Papa John’s has gone down. For what it’s worth, all national pizza chains are weak…

    I agree, so since the protests started last year, the people of America have decided within that time frame the pizza sucks…so now they aren’t buying it..A major company like Papa Johns know exactly what is spend on NFL advertising, and better yet, have concrete proof of what their sales numbers are for that advertising.

    This has nothing to do with Pizza quality. Stubhub is down as well. Anything connected with the NFL right now is not the best investment for advertising dollars..

  49. limakey says:

    I am sure Robert Kraft and the other owners are not happy with Jerry over this.
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    Because of revenue sharing and the fact that the Cowboys are the biggest money making machine in professional sports history, Kraft and the rest make millions off of Jerry. What they think means nothing.

  50. You know that Papa John was right because people go straight to criticizing the quality of the pizza instead of admitting what he say about Goodell is spot on. Regarding Jerry Jones and others, they didn’t care when Goodell went on his crusade on Brady and what he did to Ray Rice to cover his previous lies. Now Jones cares when Goodell is on a crusade against Elliot. Then again, that doesn’t make him or Papa John less right about Goodell. I understand that Goodell’s jobs is to be the whipping boy for the owners, but at what point does his pathetic reign as Kommissar, er, Commissioner, have to come to an end? I gotta say sooner rather than later.

  51. Jerry know full well this is not all about the players. They are just being stoked and used by the league front office. The real battle is the Progressive NFL front office vs the NFL Owners, with the league office sanctioning the players protests.

  52. It’s altogether fitting that Jones is heavily involved financially in this shoddy enterprise which advertises heavily to promote a very mediocre product…not unlike the Cowboys ever since Jones fired Johnson.
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    I’m a diehard (and long suffering) Cowboys fan, and this is the best thing I’ve read all day

  53. “I love the ‘your pizza sucks’ hot take from the SJWs.

    That’s all you can come up with? Its clearly not horrible pizza.”

    Yeah…Not sure thinking that Papa John’s sucks is an SJW hot take or makes someone an SJW in any away. It’s really just a matter of having good taste and an awareness of what actual pizza is. But sure, let’s go with your super political pizza take and apparent belief that Papa John’s is “clearly not horrible.” Awesome endorsement! “Clearly not horrible” really sets the bar high haha

  54. Jerry Jones from the state of guns and Jesus. What else can you offer us now? Your investments in lousy pizza are tanking and your star running back is being suspended. As a Patriots fan, I would just like to offer this for your consideration. What goes around, comes around. Weren’t you the guy all hell bent on getting Brady suspended for “tampering” with footballs? Life sucks Mr. Jones, now with your player’s suspension.

  55. patrickvwashington says:
    November 2, 2017 at 9:40 am

    As I understand it, the players are willing to take a 100% hit to their salaries because the issue means that much to them.
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    BS. None of these players are willing to lose their jobs over this. If they were, they would be sitting games out, instead of pointlessly kneeling during the singing of the national anthem.

  56. moosejawman says:
    November 2, 2017 at 10:30 am

    The real battle is the Progressive NFL front office vs the NFL Owners, with the league office sanctioning the players protests.
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    That can’t be right, because Goodell only does what the owners want, doesn’t he? At least that is what I read all of the time on here.

  57. That can’t be right, because Goodell only does what the owners want, doesn’t he? At least that is what I read all of the time on here…

    McNair said last week that Godell is not listening to the owners and they are getting little input on his decisions that he has made

  58. Do you really need Jones pressure for a callow management team to look for a convenient excuse that obsolves them of all responsibility for their company’s declining performance?

  59. moosejawman says:
    November 2, 2017 at 11:50 am

    McNair said last week that Godell is not listening to the owners and they are getting little input on his decisions that he has made
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    Goodell became self-aware? What hath the NFL owners wrought?

  60. Thank you for the tidbit about Jones owning some PJ locations. They are now on my banned restaurant list.

  61. @moosejawman says – “McNair said last week that Goodell is not listening to the owners”.

    Isn’t that what you anti-Goodell freakniks have been crying for all these years, an independent commissioner?

  62. patrickvwashington says:
    November 2, 2017 at 9:40 am

    As I understand it, the players are willing to take a 100% hit to their salaries because the issue means that much to them.
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    You don’t understand anything or how a business works. lol

  63. cardinealsfan20 says:
    November 2, 2017 at 9:23 am
    “people on this site are probably .01% of the people complaining about the disrespect. Get out in the real world every now and then.”

    In the actual real world nobody cares about your goofy anthem worship.
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    Sorry brah, I’ve traveled extensively and own a business in the “real world”. Like many folks here, I understand symbolism and appreciate what it represents.

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