Ezekiel Elliott is back, again

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The snip-snap, snip-snap, snip-snap of the Ezekiel Elliott suspension is back to snip. Or is it snap?

Either way, Elliott will play on Sunday, because the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit has granted an administrative stay allowing Elliott to play while the appeals court considers the question of whether Judge Katherine Polk Failla improperly refused to issue an order allowing Elliott to play while the litigation regarding the validity of his six-game suspension proceeds.

The ruling, made by Judge Susan Carney (nominated to the position by President Barack Obama), puts the stay in place pending the next opportunity for a “motions panel” consisting of three judges to consider the issue.

The granting of the stay suggests that Judge Carney regards the harm Elliott would suffer from missing the game as indeed “irreparable,” which makes it more likely that the Second Circuit will overturn the denial of a preliminary injunction while the case works its way through the normal steps and stages of the court system.

Whether Elliott plays beyond Sunday remains to be seen. For now, the Dallas Cowboys will have Elliott when they welcome the team that used to be the Dallas Texans back to town.

138 responses to “Ezekiel Elliott is back, again

  1. This case makes the OJ trial look like an episode of Judge Judy. Zeke will be inducted into the Hall of Fame before this thing is settled

  2. Good grief, I’m so confused. The NFL should stop being idiots and re-examine their investigation, which we all know was completely flawed based upon all the news reports.

  3. Before all the comments come in about “just sitting and getting it out of the way already” please keep in mind that this fight isn’t about the games for Zeke. Nobody but he and his ex know what truly happened and if he believes/knows that he is innocent then he deserves to take every action he can to clear his name and avoid punishment.

  4. How many actual cases are being pushed aside for these hearings to happen so quickly?

    This is ridiculous. I for one believe this is also part of the decline in viewership. Rich athletes who think they can do what they want without repercussions.

    If this were Joe Lunchbox, he would have to wait months to get a hearing.

  5. Ned Isakoff says:
    November 3, 2017 at 10:20 am
    If it was you or me ….

    Unbelievable.
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    If it were you or me, we wouldn’t have been suspended from our job for what would be the equivalent of about a 4-month suspension for a crime we were never even charged for.

    So yes, unbelievable.

  6. supra23 says:
    November 3, 2017 at 10:20 am
    Jerry Jones: Players take a knee you get benched. Players beat women, NFL unfair and my guy should play.
    —–

    There is actual proof players are taking a knee. What proof do you have that an assault happened?

  7. so all this is doing is suspending him from practice each week to guarantee he’s healthy and not tired.
    and quit with the guilty until proven innocent nonsense from people on here. accusations do not equal guilt

  8. It’s like only every other judge has any common sense. Now somehow it will bounce back to a NY judge or judges that are buddies with Goodell and the NFL, and the suspension will be back on. It’s getting ridiculous. Just let him play and figure it out in the offseason.

  9. This is a complete joke! And the entire nation is watching the court system screw the pooch!! Innocent or guilty I could care less. But every other court ruling against the other court just shows the system is broken.
    One way or another just put this thing to rest!!
    Zeke will never get an endorsement deal and that is what this is about. His salary is wiped out due to the lawyers so he is fighting for an endorsement deal. Nobody is going to touch him with this hanging over his head.

  10. Ned Isakoff says:
    November 3, 2017 at 10:20 am
    If it was you or me ….

    Unbelievable.

    if it was you or me, our employer would probably with comfortable with the face no charges were laid and let us go to work

  11. Of course theyre gonna let him play. Theres no way theyre gonna keep him out of this rough 3 game stretch dallas has coming up.

  12. The league must me so happy to continue to have this headline dominate the entire season. Great job Roger insisting on trying to impose the suspension although the league itself would suffer no “irreparable harm” if they would simply let the legal system play out. Much better everyone focus on this instead of actual football. Once again great job Roger and NFL! Not.

  13. Wow…..I did not know that Elliot had been convicted by a group of his peers
    and had been found guilty of his crimes! And in addition was found guilty
    beyond a reasonable doubt ….which is by the way the standard.
    I also forgot that the only NFL employee who had direct contact with the
    victim …an experienced investigator of many crimes….found the victim
    to have no crediblity and recommended the NFL not pursue charges.
    In other words ….it is really not fair to state that Jerry will fire an employee
    for kneeling but keep a player who beats woman.
    The statement in of itself indicates the absurd outcomes when a labor
    contract is one-sided on employee discipline.

  14. So are we all in agreement that this whole suspension thing has nothing to do with the fact that Elliott sexually harassed a woman by exposing her breast without her consent to hundreds of on goers and that anyone who is sticking up for Elliott is OK with this? Because for some reason that has been lost in this whole thing.

  15. dlw492 says:
    November 3, 2017 at 10:29 am
    He’s obviously blowing a ton of money with all these court fees.. It ain’t free, and Jerry’s not paying for it

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    The Union is paying the lawyer fees, as this is a union issue.

  16. He’s obviously blowing a ton of money with all these court fees.. It ain’t free, and Jerry’s not paying for it

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    Actually I think the NFLPA is paying for it. So Elliot himself is not blowing a ton of money, the union and the league are.

  17. I don’t know if he is guilty or innocent, but I have zero confidence in the NFL’s ability to investigate these cases properly.

  18. In Other news we have bigger fish to fry the rest of the nfc east and nfc is garbage, our only challenge is Seattle. Go birds!!!! lol like we are suppose to be scared of Dallas, 1 they have no D, Wr are old and qb cant read D once that run is stopped. let me remind you who is the Best and rank #1 team in the league. ya got that right lol. go birds

  19. philgrek says:
    November 3, 2017 at 10:24 am
    Before all the comments come in about “just sitting and getting it out of the way already” please keep in mind that this fight isn’t about the games for Zeke. Nobody but he and his ex know what truly happened and if he believes/knows that he is innocent then he deserves to take every action he can to clear his name and avoid punishment.

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    There is nothing happening here that is going to convict him or clear his name. This is entirely about missing games. Him sitting or not is not going to change anyone’s mind or any legal definition.

    If he wins the court case that matters, not this one, he will get his money and his win against the NFL.

  20. This is the American justice system if you have enough money. Appeal until the governing body runs out of funds or the will to continue coming after you is broken.
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    I sure am glad this is being played out in public court so it is my money paying for it.

  21. John Henry’s Hammer says:
    November 3, 2017 at 10:27 am
    supra23 says:
    November 3, 2017 at 10:20 am
    Jerry Jones: Players take a knee you get benched. Players beat women, NFL unfair and my guy should play.
    —–

    There is actual proof players are taking a knee. What proof do you have that an assault happened?

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    There is a video of Elliott pulling down a woman’s shirt in public….that in and of itself is an assault on a woman.

  22. “How many actual cases are being pushed aside for these hearings to happen so quickly?”

    None. There was no hearing, as the article clearly states.

    Even if there had been, no cases would have been “pushed aside”. All courts have multiple hours available for hearings, emergency or otherwise, even if there is an ongoing trial.

  23. nhpats says:
    November 3, 2017 at 10:42 am
    John Henry’s Hammer says:
    November 3, 2017 at 10:27 am
    supra23 says:
    November 3, 2017 at 10:20 am
    Jerry Jones: Players take a knee you get benched. Players beat women, NFL unfair and my guy should play.
    —–

    There is actual proof players are taking a knee. What proof do you have that an assault happened?

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    There is a video of Elliott pulling down a woman’s shirt in public….that in and of itself is an assault on a woman.

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    Ummm. I don’t know how people don’t understand this. That is not what he was suspended for. Stay on track. And BTW it’s only assault if it is against the women’s wishes. Nice try though. Is there any proof Tiffany Thompson was assaulted?

  24. It appears this case is being tried at the Cleveland Browns Court of Appeals. Judge Jimmy Haslam presiding.

  25. NHPats, read the victim’s intake statement and compare them to the photos the NFL proved to be authentic. Proving Zeke did is responsible. Read the other witnesses statement about those injuries. They did not magically appear.

  26. Iggle fans peaking on the status of Zek in this thread say they are not afraid lololololol ,,,,they are

  27. I hope that by the time he runs out of “stays” of his suspension, the playoffs are starting. That’s when he will look back and wish that he hadn’t fought it.

  28. What the hell so his mental stability is so unstable that he can’t handle a suspension for doing something that he did and knowingly that it was wrong. It really doesn’t matter if he was guilty in a court of law or not he was tarnishing the image of his place of work by his actions and by all accounts Ohio state had kept a lot of other things hidden or looked the other way and now he’s being held accountable for his actions so be a man take your lumps, grow up, learn from your mistakes and move on.

  29. All of yall saying he sexually harassed a woman need to remember two things: 1. This legsl battle has nothing to do with that. At all. 2. If she never pressed charges and the state never pushed then by law he is guilty of no crime. What he did was wrong and stupid but ultimately nothing came of it and the league never pursued it ( which had they of would have at least justified a suspension)

  30. It’s nice to have the kind of legal resources that Zeke has. As for us, we’ll have to obey laws. He’ll be suspended eventually but it could easily take until next year.

  31. Laughable at this point. Everyone involved looks either guilty or slimy and there will be no winners when this is all settled, presuming that day eventually comes. Maybe the worst look of all is for our legal system that loosely resembles a baboon with a Rubik’s cube.

  32. suspect players in the news battling the NFL in the courts weekly/daily. wasting more taxpayer money with the court system because of their idiotic kangaroo court in house precedings. The other half of the league is injured. NFL sucks these days.

  33. scmems07 says:
    November 3, 2017 at 10:35 am

    So are we all in agreement that this whole suspension thing has nothing to do with the fact that Elliott sexually harassed a woman by exposing her breast without her consent to hundreds of on goers and that anyone who is sticking up for Elliott is OK with this? Because for some reason that has been lost in this whole thing.

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    Actually, that’s only part of it. The 6-game suspension is based on the unproven domestic violence allegations, and that’s the minimum term where the NFL believes DV occurred. The NFL could end this by reducing the suspension to 2 games, removing the DV element and saying that it relates to his general personal conduct – something that can be proved with video evidence.

  34. Ned Isakoff says:
    November 3, 2017 at 10:20 am

    If it was you or me ….

    Unbelievable.

    __________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    If it was you or me, we wouldn’t be suspended for an unproven allegation where no charges were made. If the NFL wins, this opens the floodgates for anyone that wants to try and ruin a player’s career – if Goodell and his lackeys are going to suspend someone on the basis of no hard evidence and testimony that the lead investigator did not believe, no player is safe.

  35. All that matters here is the CBA, the Collective Bargaining Agreement that the NFL and the NFLPA agreed on and signed, how Zeke continues to play these games week after week is beyond me, you cant beat the CBA or can you is my question????

  36. Guys, whether you like the Cowboys or not (it totally makes sense if you hate them), can’t we all agree on a few things:
    -We have no idea whether or not Elliot abused a woman. He totally could have, he totally might not have
    -The NFL didn’t come even a fraction close to proving in the slightest fashion that he did
    -The NFL’s logic and disciplinary procedures have been hairy from the start
    -Justice and truth doesn’t mean anything to the league. Their priority is public perception and damage control

    If we could strongly know that Elliot did something, we’d all want him to be punished. As Americans, we should not support rogue discipline, so we should support Elliot getting a REAL fair shake (and it has been proven many times over that the NFL does not care whether it gives a fair shake). And given the nature of football, we should all support him playing until that fair shake happens. Right?

  37. Getting a bit tired of this. Sh

    Example of what is wrong with U.S. Justice systems, judges injecting politics into cases instead just ruling the merit of case.

    NFL is turned into a Soap Opera…

    How many players will kneel for anthem….

    Will Zeke play…

    Will Colin Kaepernick ever find a new Team Tune in Sunday

    Couple that with ESPN trying to stay afloat and you have a total $h** Show

  38. philgrek says:
    November 3, 2017 at 10:24 am
    Before all the comments come in about “just sitting and getting it out of the way already” please keep in mind that this fight isn’t about the games for Zeke. Nobody but he and his ex know what truly happened and if he believes/knows that he is innocent then he deserves to take every action he can to clear his name and avoid punishment.

    Adrian Peterson was only disciplining his son, Greg Hardy didn’t do anything wrong and of course Zeke didn’t do anything wrong. Everyone in Shawshank is innocent.
    The Narcissist never believes they did anything wrong.

  39. Unfortunately just like the Brady case it’s no longer about if something did or didn’t happen. It’s now about the NFL being allowed to dispense whatever justice they’re in the mood for that day.

    Really hoping Goodell will get the boot one day and we can go back to a world where the courts handle crime and NFL pays more attention to not ruining football.

  40. The league has absolutely zero interest in suspending Zeke. This is nothing but a ruse. NFL can claim it “did all it could do” and court of law stopped them. Therefore no PR hit for the league (like they don’t have other PR hits though). Like the league wants to suspend the best player on America’s Team at a time when ratings are in a significant trough.

  41. scmems07 says:
    November 3, 2017 at 10:35 am

    So are we all in agreement that this whole suspension thing has nothing to do with the fact that Elliott sexually harassed a woman by exposing her breast without her consent to hundreds of on goers and that anyone who is sticking up for Elliott is OK with this?
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    Yes and yes. Even the league is okay with it. Are you okay with it?

  42. As usual, most people have no idea what any of these rulings mean. Nothing in these rulings has anything do whatsoever with whether Elliot is guilty of anything, or even whether the suspension is legal.

    The only question before the court RIGHT NOW is whether it is fair to prevent Elliot from working before his appeals are settled. The argument is whether Elliot will have been harmed if he is forced to serve a suspension NOW that is thrown out LATER.

  43. The legal process took place and there wasn’t enough evidence or victim/witness credibility to file charges and attempt prosecution. This boils down to the NFL being their own court and using language in the CBA to hide behind. They are trying to make up for past issues (Ray Rice) where they didn’t take enough action. The guy should not have been suspended.

  44. Lawyers who control the judicial system have turned it into a body that makes decisions based on what can benefit themselves the most. Stringing out decisions like this lets them keep billing their clients for all they can.

  45. “…if Goodell and his lackeys are going to suspend someone on the basis of no hard evidence…”

    Tom Brady says hello, the NFL admitted in court that they had no evidence of any tampering.

  46. Since this whole thing is about the fairness of the suspension, it only makes sense that he should play until the courts decide (once and for all) whether the suspension is fair or not.

    If he sits and they later decide it was unfair, he can’t (and the team can’t) get those games back. They need to let the system run its course and let the man do his job in the meantime.

  47. If spending my fantasy free agent money on Alfred Morris and Darren McFadden goes to waste, I’m suing somebody.

  48. How can anyone be so clueless as to think this somehow wastes taxpayers money? Judges and court personnel are being paid exactly the same regardless of how many cases are on the docket.

  49. Unless a playing is arrest or convicted of a crime, the NFL should have no right to suspend them. After dropping the ball on the Ray Rice situation, now they are laying down a heavy hand on every case. Once again the NFL is looking stupid. I see a pattern here.

  50. This continues the elitist treatment that probably began when he was in junior high…..ridiculous.

  51. This issue is beyond ridiculous.

    1. For those of you that keep talking about how it isn’t fair, he wasn’t charged, the NFL didn’t prove anything. You are barking up the wrong tree. The CBA doesn’t say anything about the league having to prove anything. The PCP is a rule that punishes players for damaging the shield. There is nothing that says that they have to be proven guilty, or that there is any legal qualification needed. So in this case, Zeke was accused of something, the moment that he did that, he was damaging the shield. Then while an investigation was going on, he had 2 other incidents that were bad and could be related or prove a pattern of behavior. It was Zeke’s job to prove his innocence, not the league’s to prove guilt. They asked him for a plausible reason as to how she came by her injuries instead of his – well I didn’t do it argument, (which is reasonable since the fans are who the league are trying to appease that would help that) he didn’t have a good reason. They then stated that they thought he was guilty. His legal guilt or not is irrelevant to the league, that is relevant only to Zeke and the justice system. They suspended him for what they viewed as damage to the shield and not being able to prove to them his innocence.

    2. That was agreed to by the League and the PA, so Zeke getting suspended by Goodell is an approved remedy for the situation. Any court should be throwing that out, because the league followed the agreed upon process. Just because the PA, the player, the team, and some of the fans don’t like the result doesn’t mean that he was legally wronged. He did violate a policy. Guilt or innocence of any charges are irrelevant, he put himself in the position to harm the league and other players. That is what he is being punished for. Not whether or not he was guilty of the crime.

    3. The justice system, this is a joke, the fact that articles now have to post who appointed the judge shows that there is a serious issue with the justice system. Your political leanings should never come into your legal rulings as a judge. When they do they are violating their oath. I know we are humans and we all make mistakes and have feelings, but when we see things this blatant, we should all be scared.

    4. Irreparable harm to Zeke – whatever – what about irreparable harm to the league and other players. The league has already lost more money over this for more people than Zeke will ever make in his career. Maybe the league should sue him and the PA for damages.

    5. He should just sit and take the suspension. He did violate the conduct policy by costing the league money. He wasn’t able to prove his innocence to the NFL, so he is guilty. OJ was found innocent of murder in the criminal case, then guilty in the civil. This is similar that different systems found different results.

  52. Regardless of the impact on football, this back and forth with one court overuling the previous court just shows how arbitary our legal system is. It also shows the effect of money upon justice. If you can keep seeking another court, you can get the results you desire. People without unlimited money (insert your name here), receive “justice” based upon the random geographical location in which they are judged. This is a sad reflection upon our legal system.

  53. obsessedvikingfan says:
    November 3, 2017 at 10:25 am
    How many actual cases are being pushed aside for these hearings to happen so quickly?

    This is ridiculous. I for one believe this is also part of the decline in viewership. Rich athletes who think they can do what they want without repercussions.

    If this were Joe Lunchbox, he would have to wait months to get a hearing.
    *************************************************************

    Well, there is a timing issue here, if they dont hear it now, he would irreparably harmed by serving a suspension which might get thrown out at a later date. Dont worry, all those cases that were “pushed aside” will get heard…..dont get your panties in a twist.

    What is ridiculous is that a man who has never been charged with a violent crime, has been told by his employer that they dont care what law enforcement says, he is a violent criminal and has told the world this. Like it or not, Elliott is considered INNOCENT in every sense of the word, never arrested, never charged, never convicted, never sued in civil court, never had a civil judgment against him for this crime. Therefore, INNOCENT and he should fight this as long as he can until someone proves in court he did it.

  54. grumpysal says:
    November 3, 2017 at 11:21 am

    “…if Goodell and his lackeys are going to suspend someone on the basis of no hard evidence…”

    Tom Brady says hello, the NFL admitted in court that they had no evidence of any tampering.

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    Exactly – the fact that this has happened before and is happening again goes to the last part of my post: “no player is safe”.

  55. John Henry’s Hammer says:
    November 3, 2017 at 10:27 am
    supra23 says:
    November 3, 2017 at 10:20 am
    Jerry Jones: Players take a knee you get benched. Players beat women, NFL unfair and my guy should play.
    —–

    There is actual proof players are taking a knee. What proof do you have that an assault happened?

    ____________________________

    Do you really think all this is happening and there is no proof of anything??? There is plenty of proof to support the NFL conduct policy and them suspending him. It states in the Conduct Policy you don’t have to be convicted of a crime to violate the policy. Whether anyone likes it or not it is company policy and there have been interviews, photographs, texts recovered, etc. to show something definitely happened to at very least violate the NFL Conduct Policy. Prosecution would just have a difficult time convicting him because the girl has said some really dumb stuff to others and they can easily attack her character. I repeat that doesn’t matter!! It’s the NFL conduct policy just like most companies have a policy that you can get in trouble for even if not committing a crime.

  56. Win a battle. Lose the war. Eagle fans are hoping Dallas can delay the inevitable so the Boys dont have Zeke for the final game with the Eagles AND the playoffs.

  57. scmems07 says:
    November 3, 2017 at 10:35 am
    So are we all in agreement that this whole suspension thing has nothing to do with the fact that Elliott sexually harassed a woman by exposing her breast without her consent to hundreds of on goers and that anyone who is sticking up for Elliott is OK with this? Because for some reason that has been lost in this whole thing.

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    For the 10,000th time……Zeke knew the woman, he brought her there, he left with her, he partied with her later. This woman pulled her own top down before and after Zeke did it. Thats why she had so many beads! Its like Marti Gras…..its not a family parade like you might think. So NO….he didnt assault her.

  58. All of yall saying he sexually harassed a woman need to remember two things: 1. This legsl battle has nothing to do with that. At all. 2. If she never pressed charges and the state never pushed then by law he is guilty of no crime. What he did was wrong and stupid but ultimately nothing came of it and the league never pursued it ( which had they of would have at least justified a suspension)
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    I understand that this whole issue is primarily about the domestic violence allegations which I believe to be bogus and I’m on Elliott’s side when it comes to that. When it comes to the girl that had her breast exposed, regardless of whether she pressed charges or not that is still sexual harassment and the league has a code of conduct policy that allows them to punish a player for their behavior. Not to mention the bar fight that he was not indicted on, but the league investigated and closed due to the lack of cooperation from the witnesses.

    The 6 game suspension was put in place due to all of these factors as a negative “pattern of behavior” that Elliott had shown but for some reason people just want to focus on the domestic violence issue. Yes, the girl was trying to blackmail him, that does not negate the fact that he, regardless of the legal outcome, sexually harassed a girl and was involved in a bar fight.

  59. grumpysal says:
    November 3, 2017 at 11:21 am
    “…if Goodell and his lackeys are going to suspend someone on the basis of no hard evidence…”

    Tom Brady says hello, the NFL admitted in court that they had no evidence of any tampering.
    ______________________________

    Haha….ummm you are such a HOMER its not even funny. I have read the reports and there was TONS of evidence!!

  60. wvucolumbus says:
    November 3, 2017 at 11:12 am

    The league has absolutely zero interest in suspending Zeke.
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    Of course they do. They have to make up for their past incompetence and make it look like they are tough on domestic violence.

  61. weeteblog says:
    November 3, 2017 at 11:35 am
    obsessedvikingfan says:
    November 3, 2017 at 10:25 am
    How many actual cases are being pushed aside for these hearings to happen so quickly?

    This is ridiculous. I for one believe this is also part of the decline in viewership. Rich athletes who think they can do what they want without repercussions.

    If this were Joe Lunchbox, he would have to wait months to get a hearing.
    *************************************************************

    Well, there is a timing issue here, if they dont hear it now, he would irreparably harmed by serving a suspension which might get thrown out at a later date. Dont worry, all those cases that were “pushed aside” will get heard…..dont get your panties in a twist.

    What is ridiculous is that a man who has never been charged with a violent crime, has been told by his employer that they dont care what law enforcement says, he is a violent criminal and has told the world this. Like it or not, Elliott is considered INNOCENT in every sense of the word, never arrested, never charged, never convicted, never sued in civil court, never had a civil judgment against him for this crime. Therefore, INNOCENT and he should fight this as long as he can until someone proves in court he did it.

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    What about the fact that “his employer” and the rest of the public watched a video of Elliott pulling down a woman’s shirt in public? Is there any doubt to his guilt in that case? Or is that just Zeke having a little fun….

  62. bigjdve says:
    November 3, 2017 at 11:34 am
    This issue is beyond ridiculous.

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    I wont repost all of your manifesto but…..really…..”So in this case, Zeke was accused of something, the moment that he did that, he was damaging the shield.” So, in your infinite wisdom, simply being accused of something is worthy of being suspended?? Just the mere accusation means that he should be suspended?

    What about Trumaine Brock….he as accused of domestic violence…..he was never suspended? Jarvis Landry……where is his suspension?

    I love this next one:
    “He should just sit and take the suspension. He did violate the conduct policy by costing the league money.” How about you take a suspension from work for a crime you were never even arrested and charged with? I bet you’d fight it! Where in the conduct policy does it say that costing the league money is a violation of the conduct policy? The NFL chose to investigate him for a crime he was only accused of.

  63. There is a video of Elliott pulling down a woman’s shirt in public….that in and of itself is an assault on a woman.
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    What part didn’t you understand about her telling him to do that? Or arriving with him and leaving with him? Really, it isn’t that hard. Now go back to whining about how the NFL is out to get the Patriots.

  64. “this back and forth with one court overruling the previous court just shows us how arbitrary our legal system is…This a sad reflection on our legal system.

    Uh, courts of appeals exist specifically to review lower court rulings and reverse rulings that are incorrect. Apparently you prefer a one and done system and are willing to accept any mistakes.

  65. nhpats says:
    November 3, 2017 at 11:49 am
    weeteblog says:
    November 3, 2017 at 11:35 am
    obsessedvikingfan says:
    November 3, 2017 at 10:25 am
    How many actual cases are being pushed aside for these hearings to happen so quickly?

    This is ridiculous. I for one believe this is also part of the decline in viewership. Rich athletes who think they can do what they want without repercussions.

    If this were Joe Lunchbox, he would have to wait months to get a hearing.
    *************************************************************

    Well, there is a timing issue here, if they dont hear it now, he would irreparably harmed by serving a suspension which might get thrown out at a later date. Dont worry, all those cases that were “pushed aside” will get heard…..dont get your panties in a twist.

    What is ridiculous is that a man who has never been charged with a violent crime, has been told by his employer that they dont care what law enforcement says, he is a violent criminal and has told the world this. Like it or not, Elliott is considered INNOCENT in every sense of the word, never arrested, never charged, never convicted, never sued in civil court, never had a civil judgment against him for this crime. Therefore, INNOCENT and he should fight this as long as he can until someone proves in court he did it.

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    What about the fact that “his employer” and the rest of the public watched a video of Elliott pulling down a woman’s shirt in public? Is there any doubt to his guilt in that case? Or is that just Zeke having a little fun….

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    Good God we are back to that again……#1, Goodell said that the suspension was ONLY about the DV allegation….NO other incidents factored in.

    #2 and most importantly, that was HIS girl he did that to. The St Patricks Day parade in Dallas is very much like Marti Gras, people go there to get a drunk as they can and party. This woman had pulled her own top down before and after Zeke did it…..when people were asking her to show them, she pointed to Zeke as if to ask if he should pull it down.

    She wasnt an victim of any crime, it wasnt sexual assault…….it WAS inappropriate and embarrassing for him, the Cowboys and the league, and if they had suspended him a game for that…..i’d have no issue.

  66. It will be nice when the Chiefs still win and we don’t have to look stern to all the Dallas cowboy fans defenders MH a dude that they’d smack if he did the same crap to their daughters

  67. I’m surprised that teams don’t have trollops on retainer just to accuse players from other teams of domestic violence.

  68. “The granting of the stay suggests that Judge Carney regards the harm Elliott would suffer from missing the game as indeed “irreparable,” which makes it more likely that the Second Circuit will overturn the denial of a preliminary injunction while the case works its way through the normal steps and stages of the court system.”

    COMPLETE NONSENSE

    The temporary stay just maintains the status quo until the full panel can hear the dispute, completely routine.

  69. The granting of the stay suggests that Judge Carney regards the harm Elliott would suffer from missing the game as indeed “irreparable,”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Exactly what ‘harm’ would be irreparable? He gets paid x amount per game. If it is later determined that the suspension is invalid (it won’t be) then he gets that amount times however many games he missed. Stats shouldn’t be a factor and any incentives can be factored by extrapolating his season averages to include 6 more games. I don’t really care one way or the other but the “wabbit season, duck season, wabbit season…” Elmer/Bugs legal carousel seems ridiculous.

  70. FinFan68 says:
    November 3, 2017 at 12:18 pm
    The granting of the stay suggests that Judge Carney regards the harm Elliott would suffer from missing the game as indeed “irreparable,”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Exactly what ‘harm’ would be irreparable? He gets paid x amount per game. If it is later determined that the suspension is invalid (it won’t be) then he gets that amount times however many games he missed. Stats shouldn’t be a factor and any incentives can be factored by extrapolating his season averages to include 6 more games. I don’t really care one way or the other but the “wabbit season, duck season, wabbit season…” Elmer/Bugs legal carousel seems ridiculous.
    ******************************************************
    Lets see if this make sense to you, lets say you live to be 80….at age 20, you are wrongly convicted of a crime and sentenced to 3 years in prison (which is the same % of games Elliott would sit if we assume he plays 16 games for 10 years). Now, you didnt do it and you want to appeal, but everyone just says…..just go to prison for 3 years, they will make a final decision if you actually deserved the 3 years after they release you. At that point they will pay you what you would have made, no harm no foul.

    Does this sound acceptable to you? You got paid….although you werent there for births, deaths, friends, family, special events of your own….you can go back and redo them right?

  71. This will be a “DREAM COME TRUE” FOR ELLIOTT. The Chiefs have NO RUN DEFENSE whatsoever. Elliott will rush for 175 yards and the Cowboys will win easily. Probably something like 38-13. Vegas has the spread of +1 for Cowboys. Easy money on this one.

  72. A collectively bargained statute in the current CBA says that Goodel has unrestricted power to grant league sanctioned punishment. He ruled 6 games. I can’t for the life of me figure out after Brady to tried to get around this and failed, that it is allowed to go on in the court system , this is not about guilt or innocence… Won’t this come back to that again?

    Law is about precedent and Brady’s appeal had ruled Goodel is god, until otherwise renegotiated.

    Anyone?

  73. This is too funny. Elliot will eventually serve the suspension. Dallas has to ask itself: “Should we ruin the end of this season, or the beginning of next.”

    Keep delaying the inevitable, guys. Good luck with that.

  74. No, it appears domestic violence happens is when Skip Bayless says it is. He went on such a rant that he confirmed what all of has known for years. That domestic violence is rampant in the NFL and players and owners and journalists have known about. Goodell is the first Commissioner who has put a domestic violence policy in place. No other league has one. It is sad to see Jerry Jones and the media treat domestic like it is a minor thing and that anyone who speaks out against a player is making false accusations.

  75. When Tom Brady was the target NE fans were saying your player can be next and everyone laughed.
    Now Elliot is the target and yall want to start hoping the NFL loses this time.
    Because your player can be next.

  76. I think the problem with Elliot’s allaeged assault by pulling down the
    woman shirt was that she had done it herself that day while riding on
    a float in a St. Patrick’s day parade which seemed to have some New Orleans
    Flavor to it .
    For those of you whom have never attended a Marci Gras event ..
    It is custom for woman to expose their breasts in return for a set
    Of ‘Bobbles ‘ or necklass. Many of these woman are on floats
    in the parade.
    Perhaps in light that she had voluntarily exposed herself was the reason
    That Zeke received no charges.
    I believe the NFL stated that this was not an assault but did consider it
    a factor in Elliot’s overall judgement.
    So although it is clear that he is immature …references that his pulling down her
    shirt was an assault, is inaccurate and does not reflect a knowledge of the
    circumstance.

  77. weeteblog says:
    November 3, 2017 at 12:47 pm
    FinFan68 says:
    November 3, 2017 at 12:18 pm
    The granting of the stay suggests that Judge Carney regards the harm Elliott would suffer from missing the game as indeed “irreparable,”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Exactly what ‘harm’ would be irreparable? He gets paid x amount per game. If it is later determined that the suspension is invalid (it won’t be) then he gets that amount times however many games he missed. Stats shouldn’t be a factor and any incentives can be factored by extrapolating his season averages to include 6 more games. I don’t really care one way or the other but the “wabbit season, duck season, wabbit season…” Elmer/Bugs legal carousel seems ridiculous.
    ******************************************************
    Lets see if this make sense to you, lets say you live to be 80….at age 20, you are wrongly convicted of a crime and sentenced to 3 years in prison (which is the same % of games Elliott would sit if we assume he plays 16 games for 10 years). Now, you didnt do it and you want to appeal, but everyone just says…..just go to prison for 3 years, they will make a final decision if you actually deserved the 3 years after they release you. At that point they will pay you what you would have made, no harm no foul.

    Does this sound acceptable to you? You got paid….although you werent there for births, deaths, friends, family, special events of your own….you can go back and redo them right?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Did you actually type that with a straight face? Please tell me you don’t actually believe not having to go to work for six weeks and getting paid later is the same as going to prison and losing all personal freedoms. That is insane. We are not talking about a crime where guilt must be proven beyond reasonable doubt. We are talking about repeated violations (one in particular) of a company conduct policy where his video-taped behavior and prior history show that it is more likely than not that he behaved in a way not consistent with established behavioral standards.

  78. limakey says:
    November 3, 2017 at 2:09 pm

    Goodell is the first Commissioner who has put a domestic violence policy in place.
    ————————

    Yeah, and the first chance he got, he completely disregarded it. He gave a one game suspension to a known domestic abuser. One game to a guy that had abused his wife for years. And the NFL knew it. He might as well have done nothing.

    The league office needs to get out of the social engineering business. Not only has Goodell not cleaned up the NFL one little bit, he has actually made it worse.

  79. Question for all the folks screaming about this being about the conduct policy, and if the NFL thinks that he did it they can suspend him: If the only league employee that interviewed the accuser said that the accuser was not credible, and that she recommends no suspension, does it not look fishy that they chose to ignore the investigator’s input and decided to suspend him anyway?

    If the investigator had said she believed the woman and that Zeke should be suspended, I would be right there telling him to take a seat, and this mess would likely have been over long ago. But that’s not what happened.

  80. wildwest74 says:
    November 3, 2017 at 4:00 pm

    Question for all the folks screaming about this being about the conduct policy, and if the NFL thinks that he did it they can suspend him: If the only league employee that interviewed the accuser said that the accuser was not credible, and that she recommends no suspension, does it not look fishy that they chose to ignore the investigator’s input and decided to suspend him anyway?
    ————————–

    It’s even more fishy when you factor in the involvement of Lisa Friel, a corrupt, Giants super-fan, who was coincidentally instrumental in orchestrating the paltry 1-game suspension for Giants kicker, and confirmed domestic abuser Josh Brown.

    You couldn’t make up anything more fantastical if you tried.

  81. jjfootball says:
    November 3, 2017 at 4:26 pm

    A waste of tax dollars, and he is making a mockery of our court systemsystem!
    ————————

    FYI: Federal judges don’t get paid on a per case basis.

  82. There is this thing called “due process” under the law. Seemingly, the NFL, and many of the fans out there don’t believe this is an important aspect of this situation. I believe it is the MOST IMPORTANT aspect. Mr. Elliot has not been charged, or convicted of ANYTHING under the law. But somehow, the NFL is using its arbitrary powers to deprive a person of making a living – indicating that mere suspicion is sufficient for this action. I’m vehemently opposed to this sort of thing, and I believe the vast majority of fans should be opposed also.

  83. spencerhsite:

    Read the Personal Conduct Policy.

    It specifically states that to be in violation of the policy does not require a conviction or even an arrest. It states that any conduct viewed to undermine the NFL can be viewed as a violation.

    If this was a criminal proceeding you would be correct, however it isn’t. It is entirely different.

    So if you want to be vehemently opposed, feel free, but please make sure that you review all of the facts.

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