Ezekiel Elliott on his legal fight: This is bigger than a suspension

AP

If Ezekiel Elliott had served his six-game suspension, which the NFL issued Aug. 11, the Cowboys running back would have returned last week against Washington with nothing standing in his way of finishing the season. But Elliott continues his court battle with the NFL, getting something of an 11th hour reprieve this week.

He will play against the Chiefs on Sunday.

“Really, at this point, it’s hard for me to get down or up about this whole situation because tomorrow it could be something different,” Elliott said, via David Moore of the Dallas Morning News. “So I mean it’s really not, like I said, worth my time to even worry about. I’ve just got to trust my [legal] team and trust that they’re going to do everything they can do to the best of their ability to make sure I’m able to play ball.”

Elliott rejoined his teammates for practice Friday after the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit granted him an administrative stay. It allows him to play pending the “motions panel” considering the issue, which likely happens next week.

Although Elliott has played in every game, his availability this season has been on a week-by-week basis as his case progresses through the court system. But Elliott said he has never considered giving up his fight.

“No,” Elliott said. “This is bigger than a suspension. It’s bigger than football, them [the NFL] trying to make me something I’m not.

“I’m not an abuser. That’s not who I am. This is my name and this is my reputation. This is something I’m going to have to life with beyond football. Every day is worth fighting.”

72 responses to “Ezekiel Elliott on his legal fight: This is bigger than a suspension

  1. Keep up the good fight, Zeke!! Being falsely labelled an abuser, does follow one for the rest of their life. It’s a shame ole Rog decided to follow his own vendetta, instead of listening to his own investigator. She interviewed the “victim” SIX times, and found her NOT credible and NO suspension. Why even have a lead investigator????? This investigation went on for over a year and this is the best Rog could come up with….smh…Hopefully, the owners will get a clue and NOT extend his contract!!!!

  2. Good for you. Stick to principle and you’ll win in the end. Goodell is a pathological liar and had defamed numerous people in the last decade, while cheating and protecting the Baltimore Ravens and Ray Rice.

    It’s beyond creepy at this point and the only way to save the NFL is to bury Goodell in a federal court, once and for all.

    Get him on that stand and let him perjure himself.

  3. This is the aspect that all these “just sit down and take your medicine” folks don’t understand: he is not fighting this simply because he doesn’t want to be suspended, he is fighting this because he claims to be innocent entirely. Being tagged as a “woman abuser” is just about the worst scarlet letter you can put on someone in American society. If Zeke is innocent, he has every reason to fight this until the end.

    The NFL has applied an inappropriately low burden of proof to a case that carries with it far more than 6 suspended games and a loss of income. It was incredibly irresponsible of them, and the fact that they continue to double-down on it while literally admitting at the conclusion of their investigation that they had no concrete evidence just rubs salt in the wounds.

    Personally as a man who sees serious issues with the direction we are headed as a society on social justice, the suspension itself seems trivial to me. I’m more looking forward to Zeke having his day in court (whether or not he has served his suspension already) where the NFL will have to answer for the great lengths they went to in order to make an example out of Zeke in the most inappropriate way possible. We aren’t talking about deflated footballs and a guy who destroyed evidence, here. We’re talking about accusations of domestic violence and a guy who has made every effort to be fully cooperative with the investigation, against an organization that has done everything in its power to conceal every part of their findings that suggest Zeke is telling the truth and his accuser is lying.

  4. Zeke’s been a POS from the moment he stepped on the OSU campus and it continues. Be a man and serve the suspension you earned. Anyone that defends this guy has the blinders on.

  5. Every negative comment on these Zeke posts unfortunately is from a Pats fan or someone so ‘one sided’ that it makes my head spin. Just ask yourself, if you yourself, were ever accused of something you DID NOT do, would you lie down and get steamrolled over it? Hell no you wouldn’t, you would stand and fight your case. So don’t go telling the man that he needs to just ‘Be a man and take your suspension’.

    That in itself is asinine.No one in their right mind wants to be labeled something that they in fact, are not.

    The people ignoring the sheer facts about this case and the discreditably of this woman are atrocious. He deserves to be vindicated if he’s innocent. End of story.

    I look forward to all the thumbs down this comment will get from Pats fans that are to short-sided to see that these two cases could not be any further from one another. Also, it will show me how many Pats fans truly are following these Zeke posts with an unbridled hatred.

  6. So you pulling that girls shirt was photoshopped or something?

    We all saw it. Whether you like it or not, that is sexual assault. It doesn’t matter if no charges are pressed, or if there was a legal battle. The NFLPA agreed to a CBA that allows them to suspend you for behavior of that fashion…criminal or not.

    Im not even counting the multiple counts that were ignored at OS. Your suspension very specifically mentioned you assaulting this girl on video. Im sorry you don’t like it, but many people don’t think you are nice, wholesome, or likeable in any way whatsoever.

  7. Maybe ZEKE should “do everything he can do to the best of his ability to make sure that he can play ball”. That starts with keeping his hands to himself, not pulling a woman’s top down in public, staying out of nightclubs and any other place that may get him into trouble. Everyone knows how many things Ohio State covered up to keep him on the field. Ridiculous.

  8. Doesn’t he lose a guaranteed portion of his salary if he serves the suspension? It’s about money

  9. eaglesw00t says:
    November 3, 2017 at 3:30 pm
    So you pulling that girls shirt was photoshopped or something?

    We all saw it. Whether you like it or not, that is sexual assault. It doesn’t matter if no charges are pressed, or if there was a legal battle. The NFLPA agreed to a CBA that allows them to suspend you for behavior of that fashion…criminal or not.

    Im not even counting the multiple counts that were ignored at OS. Your suspension very specifically mentioned you assaulting this girl on video. Im sorry you don’t like it, but many people don’t think you are nice, wholesome, or likeable in any way whatsoever.

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    You actually couldnt be more wrong if you tried. Roger Goodell was VERY specific that his 6 game suspension was ONLY about the domestic violence claims, NOTHING ELSE! Nice try though. And FYI, that woman wasnt some random stranger, that was his girl at the time and she was pulling her own top down before and after Zeke did it.

  10. Elliot is only delaying the inevitable. If Brady couldn’t win against Deflategate, there’s no way Elliot will. Not a Pats fan but JJ kept quiet during Brady’s suspension so I hope it comes back to bite him.

    I’ll leave you all with a quote from JJ when asked about Goodell and Deflategate:

    “He’s got obviously a very tough job,” Jones said. “Now I see some people doing that, that’s that old violin that’s not feeling too sorry for him because that’s why you pay the big bucks is to deal with the big problems. But he’s doing an outstanding job. I can tell you firsthand that in his spot you have to with people that you are counting on to help build and to help excel as far as the National Football League, I’m talking about the owners, you have to know that you’re going to make some decisions that are very unpopular with that particular group. This is the case.

  11. eaglesw00t says:
    November 3, 2017 at 3:30 pm

    So you pulling that girls shirt was photoshopped or something?

    We all saw it. Whether you like it or not, that is sexual assault. It doesn’t matter if no charges are pressed, or if there was a legal battle. The NFLPA agreed to a CBA that allows them to suspend you for behavior of that fashion…criminal or not.
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    Then why on Goodell’s green earth didn’t they suspend him for that?

    Only a bunch of complete idiots would waste a year investigating, and then suspending, a player for something he didn’t do, and completely ignore something he did do, on camera.

  12. mrpkg says:
    November 3, 2017 at 3:31 pm
    Do the crime,do the time Ezekiel

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    Umm, what is the crime?

    How old are you some of you people that just use these tough guy catch phrases without knowing facts or educating yourself before running your mouth?

    He didn’t do anything!

  13. bradygirl12 says:
    November 3, 2017 at 3:33 pm
    Maybe ZEKE should “do everything he can do to the best of his ability to make sure that he can play ball”. That starts with keeping his hands to himself, not pulling a woman’s top down in public, staying out of nightclubs and any other place that may get him into trouble. Everyone knows how many things Ohio State covered up to keep him on the field. Ridiculous.

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    he did not “pull a woman’s top down”. Get the facts, please. Not hard.

  14. If I were falsely labeled a domestic abuser by a bunch of corrupt, pathological liars, you better believe I would fight it.

  15. aarons444 says:
    November 3, 2017 at 3:29 pm
    Does anybody take the Patriots Social Justice Warriors seriously after yearly cheating scandals?

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    2010:

    Bill Cowher: “You know, let me just say this: To answer your question, no, I don’t think so (it’s not an advantage for one team over another).
    I just know as a head coach, you are always looking for a competitive edge. We had people out there trying to look at signals. We had guys go to games. They would tape the signal caller and also write it down. They would take it back and match up the signals with the game film and certain defenses with certain plays that were being called, particularly the defenses being called, to see if we could come up with some kind of an alert for a signal. So, what they did with videotaping the signal caller, people do it with the people in the stands!!
    These people sitting there in the stands, looking at the signal, writing it down and matching up the 1st and 10 signal. Ok? Then you go back again and the 2nd and 10 and here’s the signal. You do that for a whole game.
    You then go back and match up the defenses with the signal. And you can come up with what the signal was.
    So, you don;’t need a video tape with what they were talking about doing. And people were doing it. WE were doing that. Everybody does that. You’re TRYING to gain a competitive edge. There is nothing wrong with that.
    That’s why baseball players go through the mirage of signals. They’ve got all these different codes. That’s part of the competitive spirit of the game. I think it’s totally overblown. I think if you get caught (signals compromised), then do what we did and go to wristbands, you are worried about it. We started putting defenses on wristbands. Then you find a way to not get caught (signals compromised). When your good at something and people try steal from ya, I think it’s flattering.”

  16. Except it isn’t because of article 46. You lost! Be mad at D.E. Smith for giving the players a bad deal. Let’s be honest here, you aren’t exactly innocent so take it like a man and be done with it.

  17. Well, Zeke, that’s where you’re wrong.

    If you would have served his suspension out, people would have forgotten about this already. By dragging things out, we have read a new story about you being an abuser every day for the last 2-3 months.

    If you were trying to draw attention to yourself, then mission accomplished. If you’re trying to clear your name or win in the court of popular opinion, then you have failed miserably.

  18. bradygirl12 says:
    November 3, 2017 at 3:33 pm
    Maybe ZEKE should “do everything he can do to the best of his ability to make sure that he can play ball”. That starts with keeping his hands to himself, not pulling a woman’s top down in public, staying out of nightclubs and any other place that may get him into trouble. Everyone knows how many things Ohio State covered up to keep him on the field. Ridiculous.

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    And maybe Brady shouldnt have had those equipment guys let the air out of the footballs. You know he did it, Goodell said he did it…..end of story, thats why he was suspended. Brady cheated, he knew he was cheating, he destroyed his phone so they could see the depth of this involvement. He got caught and he got punished. He is a cheater and always will be thought of that way outside of Patriots-nation……..

  19. eaglesw00t says:
    November 3, 2017 at 3:30 pm

    So you pulling that girls shirt was photoshopped or something?

    We all saw it. Whether you like it or not, that is sexual assault. It doesn’t matter if no charges are pressed, or if there was a legal battle. The NFLPA agreed to a CBA that allows them to suspend you for behavior of that fashion…criminal or not.
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    Then why on Goodell’s green earth didn’t they suspend him for that?
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    Point is that he did it. He can’t claim he is innocent when it is caught on film.

  20. eaglesw00t says:
    November 3, 2017 at 3:30 pm

    You actually couldnt be more wrong if you tried. Roger Goodell was VERY specific that his 6 game suspension was ONLY about the domestic violence claims, NOTHING ELSE! Nice try though. And FYI, that woman wasnt some random stranger, that was his girl at the time and she was pulling her own top down before and after Zeke did it.

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    Point is that he couldn’t be more wrong by trying to pass himself off as virtuous. It doesn’t matter that it was not a reason listed for the suspension. What he did is against the law. It doesn’t matter that it was his girlfriend or not. It is a clear-cut case of assault. Which by the way… makes you wrong.

  21. The defense of this guy is unreal. It’s over. Right or wrong, the NFL has the power to suspend him.

    Oh, and “it’s bigger than me” means “it’s all about me.”

  22. mrpkg says:
    November 3, 2017 at 3:31 pm
    Do the crime,do the time Ezekiel

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    I couldnt agree more!!!!! So lets run down his convictions and add up the games he should sit for:
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    crickets……………………

  23. distracted9 says:
    November 3, 2017 at 4:03 pm
    72 pages of documents and pictures would say he is guilty.

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    You mean the pictures of her with bruises that may or may not have been caused by Elliott?? Pictures that medical experts all say its impossible to tell the ages of a bruise just based on a picture/?? Those pictures? Unfortunately for people like you, the NFL isnt a legal authority, he isnt guilty of anything until he is put on trial and convicted.

  24. The NFLPA signed a CBA that allows the NFL to suspend for misconduct as deemed by the CBA. Whether the case in Ohio warranted prosecution is a separate matter that has been resolved outside the NFL.

    The suspension is not the result of a single incident in Ohio. It is the result of a pattern. The suspension is proper because Zeke can’t keep his hands to himself as seen on video. Respect for women is not a hard concept.

    The NFL has not handled the issues of suspensions very well. The next CBA needs to contain specific language about suspension durations for specific misconduct. The arbitrary nature of doling out suspensions is haphazard at best. That part of the system needs to be fixed. Players should know whats coming when they yank down a girl’s shirt or do something to make her call the police in fear.

    Like an earlier commentor said, had he just served the suspension immediately it would be over already and he would be well-rested for the stretch run for the playoffs, and everyone would have forgotten what he was accused of. But he and Jerry have kept it in the spotlight, continuing a fight that they WILL lose.

    In the end, fans decide what they think of Zeke. The faster the issue had disappeared the better he would have looked to them.

  25. Let this be a lesson for EVERY MAN. Be careful who you choose to associate with. They just might turn out to be a little crazy and want to watch you burn.

  26. I don’t think patriot fans are calling for him to be suspended. We’re all following the case about as closely as you all followed the Brady case. But I can safely say this, we all hate goodell together!

    And what Pats fans are all thinking is: “see… we told you… it could happen to YOU TOO!”

    Nobody’s applauding.

  27. tylawspick6,

    Marshall Faulk, 2013;

    “I understand Bill (Belichick) is a great coach,” Faulk told Curran. “But No. 13 (Kurt Warner) will tell you. Mike Martz will tell you. We had some plays in the red zone that we hadn’t ran. I think we got to fourth down — we ran three plays that we hadn’t ran, that Mike drew up for that game – Bill’s a helluva coach . . . we hadn’t ran them the whole year (and the Patriots were ready for them)… “I know, in that game, in the red zone, the plays we ran, most of them we hadn’t ran most of those plays that year. And a couple of plays on third down that we walked through also . . . Any time that I was offset, I was always stationary. And we had creating motioning in the backfield at the same depth on the other side of the field. And they created a check for it. It’s just little things like that. It’s either the best coaching in the world when you come up with situations that you had never seen before. Or you’d seen it and knew what to do.”

  28. dukeearl says:
    November 3, 2017 at 3:58 pm

    Point is that he did it. He can’t claim he is innocent when it is caught on film.
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    He’s not claiming he is innocent. He is claiming that he is not guilty of domestic abuse.

    As far as this case is concerned, him pulling down that girl’s shirt isn’t even a factor.

  29. tylawspick6 says:
    November 3, 2017 at 3:45 pm

    he did not “pull a woman’s top down”. Get the facts, please. Not hard.
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    Of course he did. There’s even a video.

  30. distracted9 says:
    November 3, 2017 at 4:03 pm
    72 pages of documents and pictures would say he is guilty.

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    The publicly posted affidavit which proves Tiffany Thompson was trying to frame Elliott is available for anyone to see and it trumps any 72 page document.

  31. brendafortheboyz says:
    November 3, 2017 at 3:12 pm
    Keep up the good fight, Zeke!! Being falsely labelled an abuser, does follow one for the rest of their life.
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    haha yeah it doesn’t follow you even when innocent…see Ben Rothelsberger, Tom Brady, etc, etc.

  32. It’s unbelievable that some posters still believe the LIES the NFL told during framegate, the 21 scientists said it best “There was no tampering, it is science”.
    Anyone who actually believes there was tampering after all the lies the NFL told is pathetic.
    Just like those who still believe there was taping of practices, the Herald had to run a FRONT page apology! As did ESPN! It never happened!

  33. Free O.J. Elliott. If the glove don’t fit you must acquit!!!!! We are a pathetic society. Doesn’t matter how big of scumbag is, as long as they serve our interest.

  34. XaqFields says:
    November 3, 2017 at 3:17 pm
    This is the aspect that all these “just sit down and take your medicine” folks don’t understand: he is not fighting this simply because he doesn’t want to be suspended, he is fighting this because he claims to be innocent entirely. Being tagged as a “woman abuser” is just about the worst scarlet letter you can put on someone in American society. If Zeke is innocent, he has every reason to fight this until the end.

    The NFL has applied an inappropriately low burden of proof to a case that carries with it far more than 6 suspended games and a loss of income. It was incredibly irresponsible of them, and the fact that they continue to double-down on it while literally admitting at the conclusion of their investigation that they had no concrete evidence just rubs salt in the wounds.

    We aren’t talking about deflated footballs and a guy who destroyed evidence, here.

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    We werent talking about deflated footballs and destroyed evidence back then either. In the end there was no evidence of tampering and Brady did not destroy anything. Not only was there no evidence for anyone to destroy but also that whole “Brady destroyed his cell phone” thing was an absolute lie Goodell told in order to hijack public opinion. No need to take my word for it, the truth was easy for anyone to see (and still is) once Berman unsealed the transcript and anyone that cared to know what had taken place really could read it right there. The thing was though that Brady haters didnt want the truth they wanted Brady to take a hit so they supported Goodell anyways and perpetuated the lie. So Brady took his hit and despite how that worked out (5th ring) Goodell got his precedent that is now allowing him to be able to ram this down on Elliot. And if he wins against Elliot he is that much easier able to do it again and so forth. So really everyone should stop their homer/hater stuff and care about the sport. If public opinion is loud enough all in one direction the NFL does cave. History has shown.

  35. What he’s really saying is, “I’m bigger than football. I’m above the law. You can’t tell me what to do. I’m Zeke! Feed me!”

    He’s spent his entire life being allowed to do whatever he wants and have everyone worship him for it, all because he’s good at a game. He’s gone from one overly-entitled atmosphere at OSU to another in Dallas, surrounded by throngs of adoring fanboys to whom he can do no wrong.

  36. bearaholic1 says:
    November 3, 2017 at 4:39 pm
    Ask anyone in jail and they’ll all tell you the same thing, i’m innocent !!!
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    Elliot isn’t in jail. Wasn’t even arrested.

  37. Yes. This is bigger than a suspension. I’d say it’s about cleaning up your act, Zeke. If you’re not motivated to do that – and it looks like you haven’t been – then something bigger than you will take over, whether it’s the NFL, alcoholism, or whatever rabbit hole you want to throw yourself into.
    If not now, when?

  38. It’s called Denial. The first step is admitting you have a problem. The next step is letting other people do it for you. The third step is accepting a restraining order that prohibits you from coming with 500 feet of a woman (and that includes Ru Paul)

  39. To all the comments who thinks he should just serve his suspension, what if something like this happens to you ? For example, what if someone planted drugs on you and then you were busted ? Would you just take it and face whatever consequences? Most people would fight those charges, especially if it resulted in you losing your job. So, don’t try to tell someone else what they should do until you know what happened.

  40. thepunkyqb says:
    November 3, 2017 at 3:27 pm
    Every negative comment on these Zeke posts unfortunately is from a Pats fan or someone so ‘one sided’ that it makes my head spin. Just ask yourself, if you yourself, were ever accused of something you DID NOT do, would you lie down and get steamrolled over it? Hell no you wouldn’t, you would stand and fight your case. So don’t go telling the man that he needs to just ‘Be a man and take your suspension’.

    That in itself is asinine.No one in their right mind wants to be labeled something that they in fact, are not.

    The people ignoring the sheer facts about this case and the discreditably of this woman are atrocious. He deserves to be vindicated if he’s innocent. End of story.

    I look forward to all the thumbs down this comment will get from Pats fans that are to short-sided to see that these two cases could not be any further from one another. Also, it will show me how many Pats fans truly are following these Zeke posts with an unbridled hatred.

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    Patriots fans do not care about the NFC. Especially the cowboys. If it was Green Bay or Seattle then maybe. but other than that we really have no feelings one way or the other regarding the cowboys

  41. I’ve never been in a relationship where we hit each other. I’m not a psychologist, but I know there are a lot of people who think it’s a normal part of a relationship. A lot of people grew up around abusive relationships, and that’s the only role model they know. It’s easy to say that someone should just walk out on an abuser, but surprisingly, they don’t. They think it’s normal too. It’s hard for Elliott to understand this stuff. He just thinks it’s normal. I’m not comparing the two, but Adrian Peterson just thought he was raising his kids the way he was raised. Maybe where he grew up, it was normal. Most abusers were abused, but when it hits close to home, we don’t like to call it abuse. We, as a society, allow it to happen. It makes us feel good to make a scapegoat out of guys like Elliott though. It’s not me. It’s not us. It’s him.

  42. Big Green Bird says:
    November 3, 2017 at 5:10 pm
    XaqFields says:
    November 3, 2017 at 3:17 pm
    This is the aspect that all these “just sit down and take your medicine” folks don’t understand: he is not fighting this simply because he doesn’t want to be suspended, he is fighting this because he claims to be innocent entirely. Being tagged as a “woman abuser” is just about the worst scarlet letter you can put on someone in American society. If Zeke is innocent, he has every reason to fight this until the end.

    The NFL has applied an inappropriately low burden of proof to a case that carries with it far more than 6 suspended games and a loss of income. It was incredibly irresponsible of them, and the fact that they continue to double-down on it while literally admitting at the conclusion of their investigation that they had no concrete evidence just rubs salt in the wounds.

    We aren’t talking about deflated footballs and a guy who destroyed evidence, here.

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    We werent talking about deflated footballs and destroyed evidence back then either. In the end there was no evidence of tampering and Brady did not destroy anything. Not only was there no evidence for anyone to destroy but also that whole “Brady destroyed his cell phone” thing was an absolute lie Goodell told in order to hijack public opinion. No need to take my word for it, the truth was easy for anyone to see (and still is) once Berman unsealed the transcript and anyone that cared to know what had taken place really could read it right there. The thing was though that Brady haters didnt want the truth they wanted Brady to take a hit so they supported Goodell anyways and perpetuated the lie. So Brady took his hit and despite how that worked out (5th ring) Goodell got his precedent that is now allowing him to be able to ram this down on Elliot. And if he wins against Elliot he is that much easier able to do it again and so forth. So really everyone should stop their homer/hater stuff and care about the sport. If public opinion is loud enough all in one direction the NFL does cave. History has shown.

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    wow..epic retort..you just destroyed that person and all other moronic goodell supporters

  43. Zeke,is trash and he is guilty…he is scum…you need to clean up your act Zeke!
    All of these comments assume that he is guilty. I don’t know if he is guilty
    but I do think that any player deserves a fair hearing. This includes making the victim
    testify in front of the accused lawyers. This includes Elliot’s Attorneys to then ask her
    questions in front of Goodell.
    Elliot had to answer questions in front of Goodell but his accuser did not.
    Elliot was subject to cross examination …yet his victim was not.
    In fact the only person from the NFL, an experienced investigator,
    in criminal law, that spoke to the victim, found that the victim either
    lacked credibilty or was lying.
    People wake up ..can you imagine if you were accused of something
    at work that could cause you to lose 30 percent of your income
    and at the employment hearing your accuser did not have to appear.
    That you or your reps could not ask your accuser any questions.
    That the accuser was caught by ownership trying to get another
    employee to lie about something you never did?
    I think you may be an unhappy employee after losing 3 months of work.
    Don’t be so quick to criticize a guy unless you are in his shoes.

  44. tylawspick6 says:
    November 3, 2017 at 3:45 pm

    bradygirl12 says:
    November 3, 2017 at 3:33 pm
    Maybe ZEKE should “do everything he can do to the best of his ability to make sure that he can play ball”. That starts with keeping his hands to himself, not pulling a woman’s top down in public, staying out of nightclubs and any other place that may get him into trouble. Everyone knows how many things Ohio State covered up to keep him on the field. Ridiculous.

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    he did not “pull a woman’s top down”. Get the facts, please. Not hard.

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    Oh,excuse me. What was he doing then? Adjusting it? The video doesn’t lie. Fact.

  45. thepunkyqb says:
    November 3, 2017 at 3:27 pm

    I look forward to all the thumbs down this comment will get from Pats fans that are to short-sided to see that these two cases could not be any further from one another. Also, it will show me how many Pats fans truly are following these Zeke posts with an unbridled hatred.
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    There are half a dozen Pats regulars that have posted to this thread so far. One of them posted something anti Elliott. I have posted right along that Elliott has no choice but to take this to the wall and he should. There’s no Cowboy hatred among Pats fans although we do hold many PFT Cowboys posters in contempt. Brenda, sporto and gaucho come to mind as constant Brady bashers during framegate and regular trolls of all things Patriot. Most of the ‘hate’ you are proscribing to Pats fans is the product of the diseased mind of one miami troll that maintains half a dozen Pats id’s.

  46. If Zeke feels this is all about protecting his image and reputation, pulling women’s tops down in public doesn’t seem like a way to make yourself look like a Boy Scout. That’s a felony sexual contact crime in just about every state if she didn’t give permission.

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